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So why don't you go and investigate . Visit the family. Go to the hospital they took her to because she had lost lot of blood before she gave up .I don't want to give details here because some personal things are involved . That's why it's important to see the family members and catch me at my lies.

EarsWide:
@Mr Jo, you said
Mr Jo - you have lied yourself into trouble again.
Nuclearboy is right, so she died in the hospital (as in your quote above),then they took her home to wait for her brother (who revived her by proxy ) and then they took her back to the hospital for a top up drip (after she was semi- healed

You simply misunderstood my post. She was taken to hospital when she rose. She had bled to death. They needed to transfuse her with blood . Didn't you observe when Jesus raised the dead ,they had to give him food ?

Please enlighten me: let us start with the Old Testament>

Who canonised the Old Testament and when?

Was it the "discredited catholic church" that canonised the Old Testament that Jesus and the apostles used?

Scribes compiled the old testament . Before Jesus came .

Leave ears wide or whoever he is. His bias was clear from when he signed up this name .

@OLAADEGBU

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" -- Genesis 1:26

Are you saying that it means anything other than what is written here?  Let's take Genesis 1:1 for example,

But do you agree with me that "let us " was not in the original manuscript? Let's clear that first.

Because your folly was revealed. There was no need to go in circles with a time waster. Abi no bi so bible talk?.

2 Timothy 2:23
23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

The best person to testify is the people that had their dead restored to life.I gave you a lead. But your intension is obvious to all. You are simply against miracles in the name of Jesus .Do you believe Miracles still takes place in the name of Jesus?

@Olaadebgu

Fair enough.  But what book did you use to arrive at your conclusion in your quote below:

Quote from: Joagbaje on January 06, 2011, 12:28 PM
The plurality and repect is revealed in the name Elohim. But the word "us" or "our" was not in the original manuscript.

You can start with a Hebrew Greek bible. Or strong Hebrew concordance.

Very funny. Can you quote where stated that she died in a hospital pls?

Why don't you call? It's the person that want to nail me that should take the pain. The guy is now based in lagos , you can fix appointment and you can nail me.

Ive been saying thesame thing since . Read my post again. The miracle took place in their house .They later took her to an hospital to put drip in her body. That's when I met her. Talk to her family members . They have details . I only had one contact with her. Let's stop going round in circles .

@ all
Sir john is lying in his teeth. And he knows what he is doing. That lady got healed of total blindness after I prayed for her. She testified to John. He called me to give another story. I was shocked. I called the lady back She said he was lying. Anybody who cares can follow up on the story.

There several miracles God is doing through his church there was a half dead young insane guy I saw who had been lying by the road side for days .  I thought. He was dead . God told me to reverse my car . And as I got to him ,he was still breathing. He was half burnt also. I took him to hospital. And prayed for him . He got healed. He would have died. They said it was a cooked story . Until i put his pictures out. They now said it was wrong to put someones picture up.

If any one think I cook this story up, they should follow image123 advise at least you will have proof to nail me. The young girl bled to death. I only met her in the hospital and led her to christ.

I don't need to go into sin of manipulation to make men believe in God. The intention of earswide or whoever he is veryObvious . He had been pursuing me over Nairaland for proof in many threads. He had thought I won't respond.But Now that I gave him the contact.  He should have said "thanks for your response". But he knows what he is doing. He was not out for proof. But to rubbish joagbaje. I've told him to meet me in private over the matter . But now that I responded . He was disappointed because he thought I would run away. I have nothing to hide in this matter.  I will encourage anyone to call and investigate. I didn't cook a story . The clinic or hospital they took her to for drip , was it created by me?  Is the record not there ? .

Luke 9:62
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God

To understand what Jesus wanted us to catch in the verse above, let’s read it from the Living Bible:
“Any man who lets himself be distracted from the work I planned for him is not fit for the kingdom.”
The work God has planned for you to do is very important and He doesn’t want anything to distract you from finishing it.

A distraction is an obstacle to attention; it is that lingering concern that takes you away from the things that really matter to God. For instance, a lady who’s seeking to get pregnant could be so distracted by her “need” to the point that that’s all she prays, talks and thinks about! Now, instead of praying progressively about her life and the lives of others, all she prays is “Oh God, give me a child.” That’s a distraction.

The Bible says, “Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart” (Psalms 37:4). If you refuse to worry, but rather delight yourself in serving the Lord, everything will fall into place for you; He’ll grant your heart’s desires. Refuse to be distracted by the cares of this life. Don’t allow the negative things people say about you get your attention. There’s so much of God’s work to be done, so you can’t afford to let such things distract you.

The one important question the Lord will ask you when you stand before His Judgment Seat is about the work He gave you to do – about the Gospel. All excuses will be irrelevant. Keep your focus on the goal from now, so that at the end of time, you’ll be able to boldly declare like the Apostle Paul:

“I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith” (2 Timothy 4:7).

Confession
I refuse to worry about anything in this life because I’m a child of God, and I know all things work together for my good. No negative thought, comment or situation can distract me from the work God has planned for me to do! I’m living every day, to fulfill my destiny in God, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study
Proverbs 4:25-27
Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee. Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established. Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil

Mark 4:19
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

He has always said it is possible to have such a miracle . God can make anything happen. But it didn't happen in our ministry. Besides he never granted interview to the press.

@jacobscross

Pastor AIO , I know it is in the bible that you need to accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour in order to have eternal life but if you keep sinning after being born again, won't you end up in hell?

On the same note it can be said that no man is perfect and your sins will be forgiven once you are born again.

For instance I am very sex hungry and think about it alot even though I have never done it b4. I think that I may end up fornicating if I get the chance. Does this mean I will end up in hell even though I am born again?

Won't God through his mercy , forgive me for acting on my carnal urges? Is it not said that all sins are the same in Gods eyes. So doesnt that mean that me who fornicates occasionally is the same as someone who tells lies from time to time. Won't God forgive us both if we ask for forgiveness of sins thru prayer?

Of course God will forgive any sin. But if you are having issues with urge . You should seek help rather than waiting for an opportunity to fulfil the urge. Dont treat it as normal.There is a spirit of lust to deal with. You pray against it. Declare that your body is the temple of God. And get busy serving God. "It is said that an idle mind is the devils workshop" dirty tv programmes and films can be a tool Satan use to stir up such feelings and it can soon become demonic. But to answer your question. God forgives every sin.

@OP
first you said here is the proof, but there is no proof for anything then you said Adam was a Jew .

@Greybeard

What exactly are you trying to say here? Are you suggesting that any books outside of the Bible compilation is not to be read? If you are then that is ignorant on so many levels. If you think the Bible is the only book that can give you knowledge then that means you have never read a textbook in your life.

We can read any book , the book by Josephus gave some lights historically for example. But one has to be careful about books that are contrary to the bible .As we know, it is the oldest book in human history and yet more current then tommorow newspaper.

@kunleoshob

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@greybear
Nice contribution, only problem is that some zombies don't believe it is possible to get any credible information outside the bible canonized by the catholic church and later reviewed by martin luther

The old testament was already canonised before Jesus was born. If there had been a major problem with that Jesus would
Have been God enough to point it out for us. The new testament was the part that was canonised by church fathers.

@akpeau

But he wasn't preaching about himself but God. The same way Pastor Chris is not preaching about himself today but God. Jesus Himself also said that greater works shall we do, so have you ever asked yourself why is the church is not doing greater works(like healing the sick, raising the dead and so on)? What you should be criticizing are the churches that are not doing greater works for that should be the standard for judging according to Jesus Christ. Over and over again i have seen people who have gotten healed from pastors Chris's Tv programs right there in their living room. These are people with know illnesses in their neighborhood but today are freed from the bondage of satan without even having any physical contact with the MOG. On one occasion, a friend to my elder sister was healed through the TV program after about 3months of being crippled on the wheel chair. She started walking right there from her living room and I still can remember the joy and jubil

I love the highlighted part. Because I have witnessed series of testimonies right from people's homes.

djakarta:
i have always known that there is something diabolical about that man. he once healed a man born blind and he identified colours immediately. this is impossible because the man has never seen nor known any colour from birth. one day his ills will be revealled publicly.

There you guys go with the lies . There was never an Incidence like that in CEC. it was fabricated by the enemy.Satan creates a story, and his children spread it. Every body that carry that story can not boast of witnessing such incidence either on a crusade ground with pastor chris or on Tv. Its from hearsay. But The church is marching on .

To feed on the word of God. It has power to change a man.

1 Peter 2:1-2
1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

There are two kinds of carnal Christians .The new baby convert and the old convert that refused to grow up. The word of God is the antidote to come out of carnality. The mind is the battle ground between the flesh and the spirit. When the word of christ richly indwell a Christians mind , he is renewed  in thought and transformed in  character.

Romans 12:2
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Well concerning righteousness. I understand your point. But the Op didn't emphasise that. So you can't conclude for him. My point is that many don't understand righteousness. There are righteous deeds which are products of the nature of righteousness. But its not the righteius deeds that make a man righteous in the new testament. It is the testimony of the blood of jesus. I don't justify a christian doing wicked works. But our righteousness is by faith. The right living are fruits. Do we mean Christians are not right before God?

Pls call am again o. The greatest proof of a miracle is the person that experience it.

harakiri:
@Agbaje. . . I'll strike a deal with you being the devil. . . Drop your facebook link and i'll open a thread dedicated to CEC and its atmosphere of miracles. Deal?

EarsWide:
@Nuella2
You said:
All this to defend Mr Jo 'Fraudster' Agbaje - na wa o. Mr Jo cannot prove he raised someone from the dead - so he is a fraud. He says he has many miracles on his facebook page but refuses to tell us about the link - so again he is a fraud!

Dude stop talking like a child. Go to the family ask them question ask neighbours . You thought I won't give the number so that you will keep singing on my head . I have given a lead now. Be a man. I will give you many others with medical record. So relax . Catch this lie of mine if you feel I created the story.

EarsWide:
@Nuella2
Why are you embarrassing yourself like this ? The guy confirmed the 'raising of the dead' on the phone ? What did you think Jo's accomplice was going to say ? What makes you believe him ? Because he said so ? Do you believe those emails about winning the lottery or inheriting millions too ? Why dont you people use your brains - it is a terrible thing to waste!

So why don't you go and investigate . Visit the family. Go to the hospital they took her to because she had lost lot of blood before she gave up .I don't want to give details here because some personal things are involved . That's why it's important to see the family members and catch me at my lies.

harakiri:
@ Agbaje. . . Please state the verse in the bible where the biblical Jesus said that. Last time i read the bible,most people believed because they witnessed MIRACLES!

Luke 16:31
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

You see your life? Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

you see your life , you don't even Sabi scriptures!

Jesus was right . If they don't believe the scriptures , they can't believe even if someone comes from the dead. Face book ko? Ear book ni.

Mr Image.
Tell him o. If he had called them and I'm found lying . He can attack.But He is not after truth as I suspected. After pursuing me all over asking for proof. Now I responded with the person number and name . He started attacking.He doesn't want investigation again. He only wanted to draw me out for his insults .

EarsWide:
Mr Jo
Give me the link to your facebook page please - and let me expose your lies.

Why not call the guy yourself to start with and expose my lies from there.What an unbelieving generation. Which Jesus do you believe in? Miraculous are common place in the body of christ. What do you make of scriptures like this:

Mark 16:17
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

If you believe you will see the glory of God. An eye witness visited CEC Calabar crusade and did a thread . Miracles took place . Every christian should desire to function in the fulness of Christ.

Go and sit down dude. Are you born again ? Do you believe the gospel? Tell me what you believe

They said thesame about Lazarus and the blind man from birth. Instead of all the ranting here . Why not talk to the family. We see miracles regularly .

EarsWide:
@Jo Many apologies it was a girl that died not a man - sorry my mistake!

No qualms , your ears are not wide enough.

So you never actually saw the dead girl but yet you claim you raised her from the dead ??  Mr Jo - how can you be embarassing yourself like this ?

You are the one embarrassing yourself. I said all these in the other thread . I'm having to be repeating myself all over. With all your misquotation of my words in a manipulative way as usual.

So your powers are so great that you were able to package the miracle and send it via her brother

Every christian has the same power Jesus has. But the point is . I feel God responded to the intercession we did to give her another chance.

If I was to be charitable to you - I would say you were lied to by her brother - on the other hand the more probable explanation is that you are a fraud - you made up this cock and bull story.

Your opinion doesn't count . You will see many miracle on my face book. Jesus is still doing his work in the church. You are just on a wrong side of the fence. The unbelieving side. You need to come out of your backsliden state.

Mr Jo - if you are really a pastor (and I say this sincerely) then the problems in churches are greater than I thought!!

Rather If people like you still claim to be christians , then the problems in the churches are greater than I thought!! . What do you believe . The words of Jesus or your head?

^^^^
what's your point dude?

EarsWide:
@Jo

You must think we are all fools ? So there is a lady somewhere who is ready to talk to anyone from Nairaland to confirm her brother was raised from the dead ? come on Jo, this is rubbish ?

What did he die of ? What hospital did he die at ? Who confirmed he was dead ? Was he raised from the dead in your church ? Did he need to go back to hospital for checkups etc -  Answers to these, will be what I consider proof

I didn't say a guy died. That is why I said you should have resurected the thread. The guy came to me almost crying that he just got a call that his sister died , they wanted to take her to mortuary but they wanted him to come first. I just finished ministering to some sick people that day and the anointing was still on me. I asked him if the girl was born again he said "no" I was moved with compassion . If he had said she was born again. I might have left the matter. Since she would be in heaven. But a young girl not saved died , that means she is going to hell. That was the ground for my compassion. I held his hand and pray. " lord , give this girl another  opportunity to for salvation and fulfil your purpose" ( I may not be ecxact in word) I blew on his hand . I told him to stand over her body, lay these hands on her and rebuke the spirit of death and call her by name and command her spirit to come back into her body.   He called me later shouting that when he did it she rose up!.

They took her to a hospital later . It was then i met her. I had to fulfil my proomise to God by leading her in prayer of salvation. Thats my part. It was the brother i knew . He was the one who laid hands on her. I have prayed for several dead people with no result. Why should i go on TV. How carnal? Is it about popularity?