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im still waiting for your definition of holiness

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The right question should be "How Can a Man be Saved"?

i agree with this phrase. a christian has received salvation. it is the sinners that needs to be saved. a christian who doesnt have assurance of his salvation. really have a big problem. it is by faith. you must know you have it. if not , you dont.

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you . . . that ye may know that ye have eternal life,

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and 'this' generation had long passed away, yet the verse was unfulfilled.
@joagbaje; where are you?

^^^^^ Lol. i know he can't take it.
joagbaje left his dirty work for those that it fit.

There is nothing about jews there, but the disciples.

there were 12 of them and they are all dead and gone.

It was a  Jewish prophecy.  Titus destroyed the temple according to the prophecy and no stone was standing on the other because he grinder them to powder . But you should know that in prophecy there is law of double reference. For some prophecies there is a fulfilment in the now and a futuristic fulfilment.

Another issue here is what the  Word "Generation" means here. The prophecy is accurate. We may not have absolute interpretation at the moment. So was he referring to Generstion of Men Or the present people within generational age Of 38 years. it's for us to find out. Bible prophecies are accurate.

@Wetu
thanks for your contribution, the post if you observe is focused on the necessity of receiving the holy spirit. He is the one preparing the church.

Romans 8:9
9 . Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Holiness is his manifestation, but I will still want to know what you mean by holiness.

Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature

A gentleman once asked me if Christians who never won souls to Christ would go to heaven. His question was based on what the Lord said in

Ezekiel 33:26
“…When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head… But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.”

To answer his question, I highlighted three major reasons why we must preach the Gospel and win souls. First is our faith in the Lord Jesus and His glorious gospel; second is our love for Him and hope of His soon return, and then third is His instruction for us to win souls. These three reasons should compel anyone who believes in Jesus Christ to win souls. If you don’t win souls, then your love for the Master is questionable. Then also, your hope of heaven is also called to question, as well as your obedience to the Master’s instruction. So if you’re not a soul winner, it means you really don’t believe, and heaven is a place for believers.

God has determined that souls be won into His Kingdom every day, and He’s given us the responsibility to locate the lost in our world and share the Gospel with them. As His representatives, we must reach the unreached and bring them to Christ; it’s our primary responsibility as Christians. We must tell the untold about the love of God manifested in Christ Jesus. The Apostle Paul, recognizing this, cried out: “…necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!” (1 Corinthians 9:16).

Observe his choice of words! Let us therefore be truly committed to the Gospel and see to it’s furtherance around the world.

Prayer
Dear Father, I thank you for reconciling me unto yourself and for giving me the ministry if reconciliation. I boldly demonstrate my love for you today by committing myself to preaching the Gospel to everyone in my sphere of contact, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

2 Corinthians 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Daniel 12:3
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

DGreatMan:
I want to be a child of God but it seems very impossible for me to be born again cuz every time I repent, I always find myself in sin again. I wonder if God hasn't written me off cuz I can't even count the number of times I've prayed for forgivness and I still find myself doing it and I no longer have that boldness to even think of repenting talkless of praying to Him for forgiveness again.

Please, I want anyone who is really leaving this christian life to tell me the way forward b4 it's too late for me.

Thanks.

What do you mean by repenting? . It's important to know if you at anytime gave your heart to christ by receiving eternal life. It's possible to be repenting religiously from sin. But that doesn't give a man ability over sin. The first step is to recieve Jesus into your heart . If you haven't done this , then it is one major reason can't overcome sin. But if you have received the gift of eternal life. You have overcome Sin. All you need is to recieve the holy spirit and fellowship with the word of God. Sin is a transaction in the flesh. As you walk in the spirit , the appetite for th flesh dies.

Galatians 5:16
16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

@debosky

debosky:
This is a terrible lie - personal conduct is indeed sin - while the sinful nature is the 'ultimate' source of sin, this does not remove the personal responsibility of an individual's sin. This is clearly explained in Romans:

Ofcourse personal wrong conduct is Sin. But that is for a christian. An unbeliever can not commit a sin . He is Sin already. He is an embodiment of Sin. His evil doing doesn't make him a sinner. His nature is already sin by birth.

When paul's deals with our sin in time past. He use Noun an not verb. In the book of Romans . Sin was mentioned 48 times and only once was it refered to as conduct. Out of 48 times , The Noun "Hamartia " was used. Sin was used as verb "Hamartano" only once Roman 6:15. And it refered to the christian.

1 John 2:28
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming ().

The Bible declares that the Lord is coming again. It’s important that we be ready to meet Him. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 tells us that the dead in Christ shall rise first, and those of us who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air.

So the question is: Are you in Christ? If you are, then you’re one of the many believers the Lord is coming to receive unto Himself. If however you’re not, you have to give your heart to Christ right away by confessing Him as your Lord and Saviour. The Bible says,
“Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation” (Hebrews 9:28).

After receiving Christ into your heart, you have to make sure to receive the Holy Spirit. In Matthew 25:1-13, the Lord Jesus likened the Kingdom of heaven to ten virgins who took their lamps and went forth to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish and five were wise. The five foolish ones didn’t have extra oil for their lamps. Then, at midnight, there was an announcement for the arrival of the bridegroom. While the foolish ones quickly went to get oil for their lamps, the Bible says, “…the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut” (Matthew 25:10).

Now, oil, in this context, signifies the anointing or presence of the Holy Spirit. And according to Scriptures Jesus is the Bridegroom, and the Church is His bride. This means therefore that without the Holy Spirit, a man cannot go in with the bridegroom – for the marriage of the Lamb. No wonder the Bible says in Revelation 19:7: “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.” So, if you’re yet to receive the Holy Spirit, ask Him to come into your life today and He will bring the anointing into your spirit and make you ready for the appearing of the Master.

Prayer
I rejoice that I’m in Christ, and the Holy Spirit lives in me! Therefore I know that when Christ, who is my life, shall appear, I will also appear with Him in glory, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study
Colossians 3:4
When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Trying to analyse tithing according to mosaic law doesn't make sense. If tithing preceded the law, why using regulations under the law to determine christian tithing.

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light

Throughout His earthly ministry, Jesus left no one in doubt as to His purpose on earth. He seized every opportunity to demonstrate the love of God to all people. He came that we may have life to the full (John 10:10). This was the purpose for which He lived, died and was raised back to life.

The life of Jesus while He walked this earth showed us a practical example of how to live as the light of God to our world today. His life was solely dedicated to fulfilling His God-given purpose and assignment. In John 4:34, He said to His disciples
“My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work”;
He thus underlined the work of God as His all-consuming passion. So, as Christians and ambassadors of Christ in this world (2 Corinthians 5:20), we have the responsibility and God-ordained purpose to illuminate our world – our sphere of contact – and manifest the glory of God. This is our calling.

Romans 8:19 says, “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God” Jesus said in Matthew 5:16 “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” It’s your responsibility to make your light shine; you’re to make the personal decision and commitment to manifest the glory of God and be a blessing to your world.

It’s not enough to be passively preoccupied with the blessings and advantages that Christianity offers. You're to be passionate about God’s work and see to it that his Kingdom is established in your home, street, place of work, school and in your sphere of contact. You're to impact your world with the Gospel! You're to light up your world with the fire of God that’s in you and manifest His glory to everyone around you.

Confession
I’m the light of the world and I function today as a burning and a shining light! I’m manifesting God’s glory to my world, making His Name known, and bringing men and women unto righteousness, in Jesus’ Name.

Further Study
Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Philippians 3:14-15
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

ogajim:
These CEC folks and their theological acrobatics!

I have yet to come across any Scripture where Paul mentioned tithes, paid tithes or collected tithes because he was not a Levite and couldn't have collected under the Law.

I have not seen any "opponents" of tithe advise folks not to give any percentage to the needy, widows, orphans, church etc.
You guys need to get your act together because the tithe scam will dry up soon as more and more people study the Scriptures for themselves instead of taking their "MOG" interpretation and "teaching".

Was melchizededk a levite? You don't judge christian deed by the standard of the law.

Pls give me a hint through my box . I don't know which of the names is yours. Donlitle is not there.

Kay 17:
God promises Abram and his descendants all of the land of Canaan. But both history and the bible (Acts 7:5 and Heb.11:13) show that God's promise to Abram was not fulfilled. Gen 13:15, 15:18, 17:8, 28:13-14

It's not so .The promise is fulfilled in christ and us. The promise was not made to Abraham and descedamts ,it was made for abraham and his Seed not Seeds. It refers to christ. We and christ

Galatians 3:16
16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.

We and christbare one. Abraham owns the world christ owns the world . We own the world in christ. YOu Own KOSmos (YOOKOS)

But on a serious note . This is the truth. We own everything.

Galatians 3:14
14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus. . .


The prophecy will still have future fulfilment upon natural israel also because they will join us, but the Initial plan was for us to join them. But now they will join us when God finally graft them back.

Israel

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light ().

Throughout His earthly ministry, Jesus left no one in doubt as to His purpose on earth. He seized every opportunity to demonstrate the love of God to all people. He came that we may have life to the full (John 10:10). This was the purpose for which He lived, died and was raised back to life.

The life of Jesus while He walked this earth showed us a practical example of how to live as the light of God to our world today. His life was solely dedicated to fulfilling His God-given purpose and assignment. In John 4:34, He said to His disciples “My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work”; He thus underlined the work of God as His all-consuming passion. So, as Christians and ambassadors of Christ in this world (2 Corinthians 5:20), we have the responsibility and God-ordained purpose to illuminate our world – our sphere of contact – and manifest the glory of God. This is our calling.

Romans 8:19 says, “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God” Jesus said in

Matthew 5:16
“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”

It’s your responsibility to make your light shine; you’re to make the personal decision and commitment to manifest the glory of God and be a blessing to your world.

It’s not enough to be passively preoccupied with the blessings and advantages that Christianity offers. You're to be passionate about God’s work and see to it that his Kingdom is established in your home, street, place of work, school and in your sphere of contact. You're to impact your world with the Gospel! You're to light up your world with the fire of God that’s in you and manifest His glory to everyone around you.

Confession
I’m the light of the world and I function today as a burning and a shining light! I’m manifesting God’s glory to my world, making His Name known, and bringing men and women unto righteousness, in Jesus’ Name.

We will get to the new testament surely.

Sweetnecta:
I am a muslim and I will like to ask if there is any prophesy that was unfulfilled in the Bible? I will concentrate on the New Testament, because since you guys are christians, you may argue that the failure of OT is the very reason NT was revealed.

Prophecies have no restrictions. From OT to NT prophecy ic prophecy.

Tell the world, if you know when Jesus returned to his disciple because he said he will comeback for them while they were still [if not but some] alive. Is there a disciple not dead yet, or did Jesus returned for them, already as he PROPHESIED?

You have to specify. When you talk about a prophecy ,you need to quote it out as proper reference. Some prophecy sounds alike. We shouldnt work with assumption. So kindly quote the scriptural reverence thanks.

Snowwy:
@Joagbaje,
Very true. So seemingly the 30 years were the years of enjoyment in Goshen before the afflication from Pharaoh began.
God's word is truly complete.

I think I get your point on the 30 years of Goshen , I was wondering what went wrong. If God had said 400 years in genesis how come it turned to 430 years in exodus? .

Thanks for the contribution

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why do you want to deliberately derail my thread which has a purpose. Why not resurrect the other thread.But you're supposed to be a christian

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Pls tell us about the 30 years.

Snowwy:
@Joagbaje,
I wonder why you bother. Even if their ilk see the person raised up they will not believe. I don't think its right to paste the number (it's not even complete), name here as you should have discerned the intent of Earwide's heart. He has called the scriptures 'abstract nonsense', on another thread though, so trying to prove anything will only cause more 'sorrows'. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Thanks advise Taken , i will remove it. I had told him to reach me privately. I don't have anything to hide because it's true.

KunleOshob:
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How will the number be complete uncle joe is up to his usual pranks.

It must have be mistake. But I'm taking it off.

SPECIFIC DATING IN PROPHECIES

Slavery of israel in Egypt 
Genesis 15:13
And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land [that is] not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

One beautiful thing is the specific dates God gives in prophecies. He mentioned how long it would be 400. 

 We all read how isreal migrated to Egypt through famine  and later became slaves after Joseph died , they used them to build Egypt and the pyramids . Even though the Egyptians today deny this that their precious pyramids were not build but slaves but by Experts! . 

Now let's look at the fulfilment. Of the 400 years  and precisely 400 years later .

Exodus 12:40-41
40 Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the[b] four hundred and thirty years[/b]—on that very same day—it came to pass that all the armies of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.

Also God said he would judge or discipline that nation. He did with 10 plagues which  like  insult to their 10 major gods. 

The third part of the prophecy says they would leave Egypt with great substance. 

14. . , ,and afterward shall they come out with great substance. . .

This was really fulfilled , Israel left Egypt with great substance . "They spoiled the Egyptians " (Ex 12:36)  

Exodus 12:36
36 And the Lord had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they granted them what they requested. Thus they plundered the Egyptians

Prophecy fulfilled !.

You are the one who raise the matter from another thread here. Not me. But it did happen . Jesus wants us to raise the dead. The church is still growing . It will be a common place one day.

Matthew 10:8
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils. . .


Jesus christ is thesame yesterday ,today and for ever. Pls I appeal to you not to derail this thread . I told you before ,if you want proof reach me through my e mail.

Kay 17:
^^how was Joshua able to determine that the Sun stood for a day, when the earth was not revolving at all?

Well, I didn't think of that ,but apart from the sundial they have other time measure like the sand glass.

Also Alexander destroyed the city of Tyre in 7 months, Nebuchadnezzar to over 12years to besiege it and fail. And the bible said Nebuchadnezzar will capture Tyre

Pls quote the portion of scriptures where the prophecy is. So that everyone can contribute . Thanks.

ogajim:
I am suspicious of Christians who feel the need to "defend" today's Israel or go there for "pilgrimage" when we are God's temple as believers. There are things and there are things as the saying goes and if you look closely at the country too, you will see nothing that represent God and the fact that they don't believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior, you need more research sir.

Yes we are the Holy nation at the moment.but what research did you say I should do.

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pls don't let us derail this thread. Come and share bible prophecy with us. But if you want to know about that one pls reach me through my email.

Let me clarify the issue of consequence. God will not punish any person for not tithing . I believe tithing is a necesity. But it must be by faith and conviction. For every act of faith there is a blessing or grace. There is a grace you recieve when you give to your parents (longevity) there is a grace for prayer, there is grace for helping the poor. There is grace for preaching the gospel. There is grace for humility etc. This graces are special blessings. When you operate spiritual laws , it works grace for yOu. But when you don't do it. You only miss out of the grace that particular deed carries. "Jesus told Peter watch and pray so that you don't enter trouble" is it God that send the trouble ? No. But when the enemy comes , you withstand him in the area of your grace. Simple. The grace is to shield in the area of concern. A man that takes care of his parents activate the grace of long life and some other blessings. Why would paul quote the law here.

Ephesians 6:2-3
2 Honour thy father and mother; 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Because these are spiritual principles. If you do them , it will work for you. If you don't do it. You miss out of it's grace.  Imagine someone comes and say " Paul is a mugu" " I don't honour my parent and I didn't die" that's exactly the issue with tithe. There is blessing for walking in love. There is blessing for forgiveness to others etc. It's not by force . You do it ,it works for you . You don't do it , you miss it's blessing.

SirJohn:
there are countless number of times when either you or your allies have called us greedy, stingy, thieves etc because we would not bow to a lie.

It was only in response I agree I had to respond to some people according to their offensive words and insults. But it didn't gel with my spirit. I had to stop. Truth cant be communicated by strife. It is flesh. I repented tey tey.

And I should add by asking why you and your allies get into abusive words instead of presenting cases in a civic manner.

@Snowwy.

Snowwy:
God's laws are not arbitrary rules. They are based on spiritual principles. We should keep the laws of God not with arbitrary exactness, but accordance to the spiritual intent.

Sometimes we find that the principle may be applied in the same way. Sometimes we obey both in the letter and according to the principle, sometimes in principle only, when the literal is obsolete.

Thats true snowwy. and the principles of God are eternal.they transcends dispensations. if a man doesnt understand this , he will be dealing with letters than the life principles.
Lets look at Firstfruits For example, israelites gave firstfruit to commemorate their deliverance from egypt etc and show appreciation to God. Someone that may not understand the principle behind it will say "why do christians give first fruits. were they slaves in Egypt"? But the forgot that Abel was the first person to give first fruit by faith.And for a different reason. he was not a slave in Egypt either. it is the principle that counts not the petty protocols. the same thing goes for tithe.

The petty details God gave the israelites were for them. Tithing had been instituted before the law. So judging the Christian tithing by the Standard of the law is faulty. that is letters, not spirit. This things are based on principles of faith. we dont need to criticise one another here. if i believe in this principles because they work for me and you dont believe,its not a problem. there shouldnt be abuses over what another believe.

Romans 14:5-6
5 . .  Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Those who believe in tithing are convinced it's working for them . They don't have to be persecuted for it.

You are right. critics cant bring a minister to disrepute, because ministry is work of the holy spirit.So No criticism can bring a minister down.But rather they make him stronger.The more the attacks ,the more grace God will release. But if a man is not of God , he can be brought down by criticism. a minister may not be perfect.he may have his short comings. But that doesnt mean he is of the devil. if a man believes in the lordship of jesus christ and openly confess him.He is of God

Thanks for the contribution , but it will be more appreciated if you post prophecies with fulfilment . I'm sure you know what i mean. A prophecy and it's fulfilment either in the bible days of after

Kay 17:
Pls explain the logic behind halting the sun when if fact the earth moves around it!

It was based on the understanding of his day. Men once believed the earth was flat. And its wonderful to note that before galleleo discovered the earth was spherical, it was alread indicated in books of the bible . Proverb, job , Isaiah

Isaiah 40:22
22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

A real science Confirms the bible . But I will like to remind you that this thread is about the accuracy of the prophecies of the bible. So our focus is prophecies and their fulfilment.

@el_cij

el_cij:
I hope you are aware that Jews, the Israelites, do not believe that your Jesus is the Christ, the messiah or what ever? As far as they are concerned you christians are all heathens, idol worshipers and generally misguided souls,  just saying,  thats how the Israelites you are championing see you,  seriously,  no joke,  read about it,  dem no send you,  at all,  in fact they only tolerate you because you spend money to visit your "holy sites" and they need your support against the muslims,

We are not unaware of that fact it is one of the things that proves the authenticity of bible prophecies and the existence if God. Because God had predicted this in the bible several years before christ came. Because of the hardness of their heart , God had sent a prophet to cause spirit of blindness to be upon them in their day on visitation.

Isaiah 6:9 
And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.


So when Jesus came to bring salvation  and deliverance to his people, The prophecy was on and their eyes became blind spiritually . They couldnt recognise their saviour. 

That's why Jesus had to teach them in parables because they were blind anyway.

Mattew 13:13
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

Jesus wept for them because they were about to lose the opportunity they've been awaiting  for so many years.

Luke 19:41 
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things [which belong] unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. . . because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

So because of their blindness salvation came to us Gentiles (non Jews )

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

You can see we were not deceived by Jewish myth. We are in a period prophesied to be the times of the Gentiles. That is why you need to receive salvation through the name of Jesus now .

Luke 21:24
24. . .until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

So we are aware that Israel rejected the messiah , It gave us opportunity for salvation more early. This door will soon be closed and God attention will once more turn to Israel for their own salvation when they finally embrace Jesus as lord. the whole nation will be saved

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26[b] And so all Israel shall be saved:[/b]