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Who was Pauls prophet then?

Nice write up but can you calrify this:?

1. Some of them move alone without prophets to confirm their words.

Is it a law that the words of an apostle be confirmed by prophets?

Ganjaseed:
I have been thinking lately, This Love World television station is actually only watched by CEC members, its not even popular here in Holland. So who is he actually reaching out for? Because you need a receiver and a dish to be able to get that station, or is there any country known to any of you where Love World television station is one of the national station? if NO then who is he airing that programme for?

That only show your ignorance. So how do all the people from all over the world from diffrent races get to know about healing school . And other programmes to have come from . Different countries. Talking down on the success of others is African way of life.

@mabell

nuella2:
What do you understand by holiness? Your ignorance is pathetic brother. Congratulations in advance enter heaven alone .

That's a perfect response. So many religious people don't understand what holiness really is. They see it with their clouded eyeglasses. Imagine the Pharisees calling Jesus unholy, winebiber and gluton. I remember a case of a sinful woman washing the feet of Jesus in the house of Simon the Pharisee, the religious guy got angry that Jesus was not a holy man, because if he had been HOLY, he ought to have known that the woman is a sinner. Relies spirit is in every generation. They read their mind into the gospel instead of scriptures, and when they quote scriptures , its always wrongly applied.

I believe in the rapture . But the rapture is different from the second coming of christ. The rapture of the church is not in the Jewish end time calendar. Because it's a gentile church. Jesus will not come down at the rapture of the church. He will appear briefly in the air and there will be a disappearance of all christians from the earth. The rapture will take place just before the 7 years tribulation . There is indication of a tribulation rapture also which will be Jewish . The 144,000 that will be sealed from the 12 tribes of isreal.( the man child) .the second coming of christ will be at the end of the 7 year great tribulation , this time, Jesus will come done to the earth. But at the rapture , he won't come down to the earth.

mabell:


26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:[/b]
27 And likewise also the[b] men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men [/b] working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Homosexuals were not created by God, it's an influence from the pit of hell and God frowns at it

Thanks Mabel
All sexual perversion are Demonic manifestation. Demons takes over their emotions and they lose the natural feeling. But the deception makes them feel they were created that way. Imagine someone who always have sexual Feelings towards animals. Chicken , Dog ,Goat etc.

If you are still engaged in such acts. You can't call it "your past"yet . It is your present lifestyle. And your conscience is prickling you. It happens to many people especially those who engage in murder. As some people have suggested , you need to give your life to christ. That's your only way out. Most importantly , you need a minister. And you need to know that it's not just you that is doing these things. There are demonic spirit inside of you that need to get out. You can't control it . You can't stop it. It's using you. And when it's through with you ,it will still destroy you. Satan doesn't have a friend . I would have just said you should confess Jesus as lord and move on . But a case like this , require a special ministration so that no stone will be left unturned . You can send your number to my mail below . I will give you a call.
If you believe that Jesus died for you and you can ask him to come into your life today. And confess him as your lord. You will be turned into a new man.

timsolo:
Calling a Man of God no matter what a "419" is really Bad! I don't subscribe to that and no christian will do that! If what He teaches doesn't doesn't line up with your belief, y don't you walk away instead of judging the Man Of God! Judgement looms!

You have my GBAM! On that.

ogajim:
Mabell and the other PRO staff on NL representing the Church of Nigeria LTD. (abi na PLC these days) must work harder these days because people are slowly catching on to the true Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ and find it to be not all about many fold prosperity blessings instead of Holiness, charity towards fellow men, etc.

Ogajim. Are you saying you don't believe in prosperity? And is prosperity against holiness or is holiness against prosperity?

1 Peter 2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby (.

Man is a spirit, and the human spirit feeds on the Word. Little wonder the words of Jesus in
Matthew 4:4: “, Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.”

To the one who’s born again, God’s Word is the essential
nourishment for spiritual growth and development. The more of it you take in, the faster you’ll grow spiritually and the quicker your faith will develop.

Our opening verse says, “As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby.” Not to feed on the Word is to starve your spirit, which in
turn results in spiritual malnourishment that could make the body vulnerable to adversity and the attacks of the enemy. So, make the conscious effort to feed your spirit with God’s
Word; let your appetite for it be insatiable. Avail yourself the opportunity to consistently learn the Word of God, and esteem it more than your necessary food.

God’s Word is to your spirit what physical food is to your physical body. Thus, as you consciously and constantly feed your spirit with the Word, you’re energized from within!
Suddenly, you’ll observe changes in your soul, in your body and other areas of your life. Your mind will become productive, fruitful, renewed and filled with thoughts and
ideas of success and possibilities.

Confession
Dear Lord, your Word is food for my spirit; it’s the light by which I see, and the guiding lamp unto my feet! I take heed to your counsel and instructions today, for they are life unto me, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study
Job 23:12
Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.

1 Peter 2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby

SirJohn:
@mba emeka
so what dont you understand about my thread? Is it the fact that people were put in wheelchairs and made to look crippled or that Chris never ministers to genuine cases of disability? Fault my story if you can. . .but alas you cant because like Joagbaje you've never been in that school, I have!

I have attended some sessions . But not the classes but at he same time , I have people I sent to healing school and the came back healed , except one woman who's symptoms returned. And there is explanation for that. If you want truth as real people. I know 2 people who have been married for years without a child . They went to healing school and the wives took in same month. You want to find the truth ? Let's start from them if you're ready, check the date of their marriage certificate . N
Interview them . Go through medical report. If you are ready let me know. I will get their contact. One of them have been married for about 15 years without a child. When pastor chrisay hands on them the miracle started.

Nuclearboy,
You are one of the people that nominated me and voted for me. I didnt ask for it . I dey on my own jeje .Of what benefit Is this poster of the year to me by the way? Does it win more souls into Gods kingdom. The things I cherish are things that have eternal value and not a title.  Whoever want the title should take it GBAM!  . It's of no value to me. I don't need a vote to know the impact my posts Have made. On NL. my e mail Is there and I receive mails and chats from many many people who have been touched by truth posted.

In christ there is no male or female. The issue if gender and sex is in the home.

God never said a woman can't be a prophetess. He use women as much as he use men. If he could break protocols even when women were sidelined in the Old testament when women were not recognised.Holy spirt still broke protocols by coming upon certain women as judges and prophetess. How much more now when the holy spirit has broken the gender barrier.


Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Pls don't mis interpret the bible.

I don't know what you mean by double tongue.

You saw my facebook pictures, there's an album there, that contains miracles. One of them was a woman blind in one eye. I laid hands , she fell , she got up, her two eyes open. Shes jumping all over. Why would I lie for a God. Without the supernatural Christianity is like any dead religion.

You can work miracles too if you believe. But you can never work miracles if you criticise it.

Luke 16:17
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mark 16:15-16
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned

As Christians, we’ve been divinely commissioned to preach the Gospel and manifest the kingdomlife to those in our world. Jesus said in
John 20:21, “As the Father has sent me, even so send I you!”
But then in
Luke 24:49, He was quick to add: “And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of
Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.”

This promise of the Father was fulfilled when the Holy Spirit came on the day of Pentecost: “And when the day of Pentecost was fully come…suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting…And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance” (Acts 2:1-4). After the death, burial,
and resurrection of Jesus, His disciples tucked themselves in an upper room, quietly hiding from the Jews. But when the
Holy Spirit came upon them, every feeling of timidity disappeared! With boldness, they began to preach the very same Jesus they were forbidden from even mentioning.

The Lord Jesus had instructed the disciples to wait until they were endued with power from on high, even though He had given them the great Commission in Mark 16:15. He didn’t want them to go out preaching just because they were excited; He knew they needed power from on high. That power came on the day of Pentecost. And if you’re born again and have received the Holy Spirit, you’ve received that power from on high. It’s the dynamic ability to cause changes! It’s the power that makes you an effective witness for Christ.

There’s an inherent power in your spirit that makes you bold and unafraid to preach the Gospel anywhere,anytime! With that power working in you, everywhere you go, you win! You just know that you’re a success for God. It doesn’t matter how you start, you finish strong! This is the reason you ought to be bold and effective as a soul winner! You’re sent from God, on a divine commission, with divine omnipotence in your spirit. There’s something inside you that makes you a winner, it’s the power of the Holy Ghost, and it can meet any need. Praise God!

Prayer
I am full of power and dominion to preach the Gospel because of the presence of the Holy Ghost in my life! Nothing and no one can intimidate or stop my progress as I advance the Kingdom of God everyday, teaching men and women in my world to live for Christ, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth

The Kenyan 28 was healed at the healing school. I called her myself,to rebuke her to cooprate with those who are asking her questions. God doesn't need liars and actors to testify for him. It's a sin. But she confirmed to me she's really in Kenya and she's not a CEC member. I knew from her accent she's not Nigerian.

I thought you saud you would visit her wedding in Kenya . I was waiting for you to confirm your findings.

SirJohn:
Mr Agbaje, fine I'm lying, lets talk to her and stop trying to play your usual pranks. In the first place, it was you who put pressure on me to call these people, I refused initially but accepted later, now you're running and making excuses. I don't have her number and would not mind if you give it; you're a pastor, you can advise her to co-operate cant you? or is she out of control?
you said you have four blind cases why not give us their details Liar!
You cant run for too long you know,your lies will find you out.

You don't need to start insulting. You know I'm not lying. You dont have right to csll me liar until you do proper investigation. I told you before, if I were you I would go to their house and question their neighbours and family members and get the truth out. You can't stand far away and cry Foul! . If you want her number you can ask the brother. You won't harrass a woman facing emotional trauma on my account . But let the brother talk to her first to be sure she is okay for such discussion,

Snowwy:
Joagbaje,
there are somethings you say that sound really shocking till with the influence of the Holy Spirit, i tend to get what you mean.
I must say that you have the Word, some of it might still need to display better knowledge but you are doing good.

However, i blame you for allowing some of what is happening to you here. Preach the word of God! If the Lord is using to heal the sick, praise the Lord!
Just ensure that you remain a worthy tool in his hands and May the Lord help you to be faithful to Him.

Stop responding to these critics who are just hypocrites and pharisees.

They don't know their purpose in life and that is why they have taken up the purpose of the devil which is to accuse the brethren and negatively, maliciously criticise while not providing any better gospel or advice themselves. Have you not noticed?

A poster Ucheokuchi or something comes online, shares the word and thats it. We that are getting blessed know ourselves

You don't need to prove anything to anyone. That is the work of the Holy Spirit and thats why you are encountering these 'sorrows'. After I realised that there seemed to be noway to speak to these bunch even with scriptures, i let off. The Holy Spirit will take control.

Dont get sucked into the traps they have been setting to derail every good thing U are doing. That's my advise to you. Open threads, speak the Word and let it be!

Thanks you snowy, but you can see I didn't bring it up. When John told me he didn't believe in miracles or healing . That they have seized since the days of the apostles that anyone that claim to heal the sick is lying. I was more concerned for his restoration from this unbelief. Is Shared few things with him. In private. He even said if he sees any genuine miracle,he will come over to verify them, he will tender apology etc . I told him I have several healing cases. I told hims some. I mentioned a woman that was blind in one eye and got healed, a leg ulcer, and some others. Truly he was reluctant at first, he feels I will sent actors to come and lie. He now changed his demand , that he wanted case of someone totally blind. I was shocked for the change in demand. Then i remember this woman case which happened 4 years ago . I said i had a woman healed of blindness but , ive lost contact with her. He said thats the one he wanted. I began to make calls until i got her brother who gave me her number. These were private discussions but its he want of He is the one that brought them openly here. When I saw the way he manipulated to rubbish that powerful testimony . I began to have serious concerns about his claim about healing school. I used to think he misuderstood some things in the healing school and thereby came to wrong conclusion , but I'm seriously in doubt of johns sincerity . It's not a case of misunderstanding now, but deliberate manipulation. It's sad.

@Nuclearboy
There is no lie, if I want to lie, I should have rather said she got healed instantly that should make me feel powerful. But I stated the truth. I have prayed for other blind people before that didn't recieve healing. But the healing thing ,the more you do it the more the grace increase.

My greatest desire is to raise the dead. I have prayed for couple of dead people but didn't have result, but I finally had a dead lady rise,

I just ministered to some sick people that got healed, the power of God was still on me , when my Capenter came crying that I should excuse him to go home, that he was just told that his sister just died, they wanted to take her to the mortuary and they wanted him to be there. (I had just read the book. MEGA SHIFT. if you read that book , you will have faith to raise the dead)

I asked him if she was born again, he said "no" I felt compassion that she was going to Hell. I prayed in tongues . I asked God to grant her another opportunity for her salvation. Then I put my hand on his own. I blew air on it. I told him to lay his hands on her and command her spirit to come back into her body. He went and do it and she rose up. Every body shouted. They later took her to hospital for check up. I had to rush there and fulfilled my own promise to God by leading her to christ.

The rapture is different from the second coming. Jesus talked about the second coming to the Jews as though there is no in between event as the rapture . Because he was dealing with Jews and the rapture is not for them but for the church.

nuella2:
Whatever was the problem with HER eyes, how are the eyes today?

Personal issues are involved. I said she had some issues with her Christianity . She had a fight with a neighbour and the person either a HE or She , threatened her she will sé something. The following day , she became blind. She couldn't even open the yes. For several weeks or so they carried her from place to place. Even native doctor.

That's how they brought her to me. She was led by the hand. After I prayed for her, about 40 mins later she saw perfectly. The news went far. The blindness didn't re occur. So i was surprised to hear John say she wasn't blind.  She was fully blind . She confirm she narrated all these things to John. Which kin PEPER will be in the eye for weeks.

nuella2:
Jo you really have time for these guys o. Imagine they want to verify, i laugh in ogoni. Water want to test alcohol, nonsense.

I didn't mind really.I have several cases to share and I was willing to give their numbers for verification but it seemed John just wanted to rubbish the testimony to win argument . I refrained from sharing the others since I wasn't happy with his insensitive handling of that woman. I didnt know his intentions again.

@ Sir john.
She told me you were lying. She admitted she wasnt cooperating initially . When a stranger called her and started questioning her.
And I reasoned with her. She was going through a marital whatever. She was even afraid of the man finding out about this blindness she had before. She doesn't want to remember it. I told you she had a situation with her walk as a christian. These are personal things with her I dont want to bring open . So if someone suddenly appear and asking her such question she would be reluctant but when you said her testimony may bless others , she agreed and told you everything. I don't know her frame of mind right now. You your self said she told you she didn't like the idea of someone using her testimony for advertisement . I cant put her number here. After your treatment of her case. We can do conference call with her brother . he may talk with her if she would be willing. Shey you have her number. But as a counsellor , I advise you to be careful when dealing with a woman with some marital concerns. I dont want to win an argument. Every testimony I share are truth.

Sir John, the woman was 100% blind . When I gave you her number and you gave me untrue report. She confirm what you said was false. You claimed she said she began to see after going to herbalist and several consultation. But she told me that what she said to you was that she couldn't see, she went to several places and after much consultations, she was finally brought to me. And after I prayed for her , she began to see. I told you lied to me about what she said. You called her again, and later told me that she is saying something else.  You also spoke with her brother and he confirmed her miraculous healing that day . His number is here for anyone to call 08039377331 CHIMA by name.

His sister became totally blind. I prayed for her, initially no physical effect but I told her she was healed. I was sharing Gods word ,when suddenly she shouted "I can see" " can see".  I asked her how it happened , she said as she was hearing the word , her eyes opened. But no sight. (her eyes were shut before) but as she was listening to the word , faith rose in her and she said "I can see in Jesus name" , the moment she shouted I can see , sight was restored perfectly, she was led by the hand to me , she walked home by herself.

I told you I have 4 blind cases healed , I told you of another incurable leg ulcer the hospital rejected. When I prayed for him , he got healed. He had medical report. I told you I had several healing cases. But when I saw what seemed to be insincerity on your part , I didn't bother about the other cases since it seemed you made up your mind that the era of miracles are over

KunleOshob:
Haba oga joe, you know better than I do that he is a notorious deceiver. Stage managed miracles for one, tithes,first fruits and other scams he preaches to extort money from his gullible/hypnotized members another. Wld stop here for now cause I can actually write a dissertation on 'the deceptions of Oyakhilome'

there is no need for stage managing of miracles. jesus christ is thesame yesterday, today and forever. miracles are common place in CeC. leaders and members do cast out devils and heal the sick. ask any local member of any branch. i dont want to talk about the miracles through me. you will say im boasting. so when we hear all these stories of staging miracles , we laugh over them because miracles are common place.
if theres any staging , it is those who are paid to lie against the church as they did o christ and other apostles.

What makes him a deceiver

Ephesians 4:14-15
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

The proof of growth; the proof that you've become a matured person is not in the size of your muscles; it's in how responsible you've become. Maturity is for responsibility. No parent will bring up their children just so they could become adults and say "That's it! We nurtured you to be twenty-five. Now that you're twenty-five that's all about life." No, the reason they grew you to become an adult is for you to take up responsibility.

This is something many in the Church need to realize. You are not just in Church to grow spiritually and then have a nice life; spiritual growth is for responsibility. You grow so you can function and serve in the House of God; so you can be a blessing to others. True spiritual men and women are those who understand and are conscious of the responsibility of service.

Refuse to be among those who delight in being served, rather than be the ones serving. Jesus made clear the preeminence the one who serves has over the one being served: "But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.(Mark 10:43-44)."

Refuse to be idle in the house of God; be involved in service! Be known for your effectiveness in reaching out to others, as you win them to Christ; invite them to Church meetings and other programs in your local Church.

Remember, the ministry of reconciliation has been committed into your hands; therefore it's your responsibility to speak for Jesus and manifest the kingdom of God where you are. That's the purpose for Christian growth. You're being built up to function: "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, (Ephesians 4:11-12)." Your growth is for service and responsibility in the house of God, never forget that.

Prayer
I acknowledge that the glorious Gospel of the blessed God has been committed unto my trust, and as a good steward, I faithfully dedicate myself to serving the Gospel of Christ's salvation to everyone in my world. I thank you heavenly Father, for counting me faithful and making me an effective minister of the Gospel, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study
Luke 22:25-27
And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth.

Prophecies are acts of God. They show his presence in the church .

1Corithians 14:24
But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, 25 and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”

inedi:
the bible lets us know, that when Jesus died he took upon himself sin and became the embodiment of sin, if it was so then what nature did he use in defeating the devil.

He defeated the devil as a man. Not as God.

people are taxed from their salaries and puchases. but they are not taxed for donations in churches so the cards help reflct money they give in churches as donations so they wont be taxed for it

Everyone is on their own . Ofcourse there's freedom of association. You have your friends , I do too. Nothing is wrong with that. Truth is not about how many people but in the content. The thread on the apostles had already enter abuses . I can't be embarrased by the bible , If I'm wrong I don't need to win argument. Prove to me by scripture . I will humble myself to admit . But these days it' hasn't been discussions but it's like political debate. Its an unhealthy enviroment for learning.

Hell was never created for man. It was creAted for Satan. God can only forgive a repented heart.

Matthew 25:41
41 . . . Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Satan never repented and never will.