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There is a yearly tithe which everyone gives to God though the priests , but there is another tithes that is shared with the poor,priests ,and strangers , this is every three years. It is different from the normal tithe.

If someone says he is born again, you should simply ask him further questions on what he means by "born again". But the fact that a Christian does something wrong does not mean he is not born again. Being born again doesn't mean the person can never do wrong. Everybody make of or two mistakes from time to time.

@trini girl

Greetings!

It is my belief that pre-marital sex is different from fornication.  The verb "to fornicate" is derived from the Greek word
korinthiazomai,a word which was derived from the city of Corinth, where promiscuity and sexual immorality abounded like no where else and the corinthians worshipped the goddess of love (eros), Aphrodite.

There were over 1,000 love-peddlers in the temple of Aphrodite, so sexual promisuity was the norm.

In Paul's letter to the Corinthians he admonishes them to flee fornication, meaning avoid to avoid sexually promiscuous behaviour, sleeping with love-peddlers, and multiple sex partners.

This is different from pre marital sex.

My point is, if you are committed to be married to someone, then having sex with that person does not mean you are a fornicator.

Although I do not condone sex with multiple partners, sex with your boyfriend or fiancee is fine, as long as you are both committed to each other and monogamous.

The floor is now open.

I will want you to explain which passage you got this "korinthiazomai" from.

mabell:
If there is a matter, discuss with your partner, sort it out once and for all no matter the consequence[/b]s
A problem said is a problem solved

As much as I agree with you, the highlighted part may be misunderstood . The bible recommended confrontation, but the confrontation must be done in love and humility. We correct in love. But whe. You say "no matter the consequence" I feel it may suggest negative attitude.

[b]Matthew 18:15-17
15 “If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. ’ 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. 

There is actually no christianity without being born again. Every man has to be born two times. Being born again is  actually a re creation of a man in his spirit. It is not observing some spiritual laws . But to be actually created anew. 

 2 Corinthians 5:17
17 Therefore if any man[ be] in Christ,[ he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

This new creation has been foretold  by prophets of old. That a recreation of a race or new species of people will take place. 

Psalms 102:18
18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the Lord. 

So for a man to be saved, he has to actually be created the second time. Many of us had religious upbringing which gives false security of salvation. It will be a great tragedy for a man to realise at the at the close of the age that he has no salvation and that he had believed wrongly.

 John 3:3-7
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

The death and resurrection of christ are two different things. His death paid for the sin of the world . He died in our place . He paid for every man. If that's where he stopped , that would have been good enough for sin. But his resurrection was something else. A new man was created in christ. This is entirely a new thing. 

Ephesians 2:10
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus . . . . .

This idea of being born again or being recreated is a reality. A Christian is a new being without a past. The new creation took place in christ Jesus. It's a strange thing that took angels by surprise. A man is not recreated by good works but by faith. Some believe if they try their best to love their neighbour and do good they will somehow be saved. But that's the error. The spirit of a man has to be re created the day he receives christ . It is an instant experience and not progressive.That new spirit is in the nature of God and comes from God. 

Ezekiel 11:19
19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. . . .

Man is a spirit, he has a soul and he lives in a body. The spirit of man died in Adam. Because Adam died spiritually that day he sinned.

Genesis 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day [/b]that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely [b]die. 

Adam died in his spirit that day. And all of us were born spiritually dead. Through Adam. We sinned in him.

Romans 5:12
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 

So because of Adam , we became fleshly ruled because our birth through our parents was fleshly and that makes us dead spiritually . Good works can nit change the nature. We have to be born with a new nature and a new life. Spiritual birth  

 John 3:6 
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,[ even] to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

So in heaven , a man is not qualified for salvation by how nice and good he behaves , but what nature or what life powered him. The new creature or the Adamic natural life.

Galatians 6:15
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 

 Ephesians 2:15
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,[ even] the law of commandments[ contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man,[ so] making peace;

I want to thank and congratulate everyone who nominated me, and those who voted for me including nuclearboy and unclekuns. I pray that Nigerian elections will be this free and fair especially the PDP primaries today. May the will of God prevail in our presidential election without violence.

Congratulations to all . Thank you

Jenwitemi:
I think criminals no longer respect them because they see these pastors as thieves, criminals just like them. Criminals acting like pious saints while robbing their congregations blind are even worse than the regular criminals. Who knows, maybe some of these criminals were driven into lives of crime after they have been duped by one or two of these MOGs , and now they are paying them back with retribution.

dayokanu:
Why would criminals respect fellow criminals?

What about Paul ? Was he must have been a criminal too.

 2 Corinthians 11:26
26 On frequent journeys, I faced dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, 

Jenwitemi:
Shouldn't God protect all his servants?

God does protest his servants, but the servants still have the responsibility to yield to his warning. The holy spirits warns us all the time , we may hear or miss out. God warned Paul few occasion of dangers. 

   Acts 22:17-19
17 And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance; 18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me. 19 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee  21 And he said unto me, Depart . . . .

Paul disobeyed here and saw the repercussion. God warn men of evil by several means. It can be through dream, vision,. Sometimes we don't hear. Other times we don't remember such dream until it happens , you now remember and say "and I dreamt about it ooo".

Job 33:14-16
14 For God does speak –now one way, now another – though man may not perceive it. 15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on men as they slumber in their beds, 16 he may speak in their ears and terrify them with warnings, 

 
So we have responsibility for our lives . There are times to stay and fight to prove the power  of God, but there are times we should not go at all and there are times we may need to run for safety .Jesus too had to run Sometimes to protect himself . Why didn't God protect him if he be MAN OF GOD

Hope of the nation rests in the prayers of the saints. Not in the name of a person.

Nope, robbery goes beyond a person. Demons armed robbers. If a minister cast out devils and heal the sick. Satan will stir up demonic attack against him though physical attack , robberies  , false accusations  etc.they are all part of Christian persecution. It has always been so. But grace protect Gods ministers many time because people needs them.

Apostle Paul and other ministers had their own share.

   2 Corinthians 11:25-27
25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26[ In] journeyings often,[ in] perils of waters,[ in] perils of robbers,[ in] perils by[ mine own] countrymen,[ in] perils by the heathen,[ in] perils in the city,[ in] perils in the wilderness,[ in] perils in the sea,[ in] perils among false brethren; 27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and unclothedness.

But a minister most times get warned of such things by the spirit , but sometimes if he is not sensitive , he may fall prey.
God always warns his children but we may not always hear.

Love at first sight is simply infatuation or chemical reaction. It is not real and dependable. It is attached to selfishness. Real love gives but selfish love takes and demand. Teal love is a choice, it is based on knowledge. There is some good in every person. If you determine to see the good in a person , real love will develop. You can love every person.

I will blame divorce on selfishness. Nobody is perfect, disagreement doesn't mean incompatibility. Lack of patience and tolerance is a big problem. Anyone can change. There is no perfect husband or wife. Everyone is a raw material. You are the one to bring perfection out of your spouse .

Infinity
If the problem is still on, pls reach me through my mail . It's a simple problem. And it will end today.

What's the point of posting an article of 10years ago?.

Romans 14:4
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

 Romans 14:4 (amp)
4 They are God's servants, not yours. They are responsible to him, not to you. Let him tell them whether they are right or wrong. And God is able to make them do as they should. 

Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want…

If you’re born again, it’s important you understand that God is your source. The government will never make you rich for no government was designed to make anyone rich. But when you recognize God as your source and provider, you’ll discover that your financial prosperity has nothing to do with government policies or the state of the world’s economy. When you recognize God as your source, and relate with Him as such, you’ll never lack food, shelter or clothing. You’ll always have all your needs met,

Psalms 34:10
“… . . .they that seek the LORD shall not want any good thing.”

Choose to believe and trust God to take care of you. He is more than able to give you much more than you could ever need! He wants you to always have more than enough, so that besides having your personal needs met, you can be of help and a great blessing to others as well. Because God is your source, you’re like an ocean that never runs dry; you’re not perturbed, limited or disadvantaged by the absence of money or physical resources.

A dear lady once shared her beautiful testimony, describing how she didn’t have a job or means of income, thus for several years, couldn’t pay her mortgage. A number of times, the bank called her and because she couldn’t pay, she was taken to court. However, one day, during this period, she saw Pastor Chris on TV and started listening to the message of faith. On her first appearance in court, the manager who came representing the bank told her “Lady, don’t cry. It’s going to be okay.” There and then, all her debts were cancelled! God took care of them.

The Scripture says,
“Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed” (Romans 10:1 WEB).

Trust God with your life. Recognize Him as your source and He’ll meet you at every point of your need.

Prayer
Dear Father, I declare in the Name of Jesus that you’re my source and my great provider! You're the all-sufficient One, and in you I place my trust today and forever, rejoicing with thanksgiving that my needs are met according to your riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Amen.

Further Study
Philippians 4:19
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus

1 Kings 17:2
And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying,. . .

ogajim:
Pastor JoAgbaje, those are your words not mine. I would NEVER question God but trust me to question the fake preachers who abound in Nigeria, UK, USA etc because it it obvious they KNOW NOTHING about sacrifice except when they are calling on the congregation for "sacrificial offerings"

Offerings are part of worship, if you can't offer to God, then something is wrong. A pastor is a man called of God to bless people by the anointing. If he encourages people to give, it's for their own prosperity, not for the pastor prosperity. Church money does not belong to the pastor . He is a stweard.  He himself must be a giver. I've seen ministers in the U.S come to africa to donate , help children spend millions of dollars. Yet you guys still call them thieves.

Dude,
I was in Nigeria last February and saw Churches in every other house but didn't see any added VALUE to the masses' lives. Maybe you can educate me more on the "great works ministers are doing" in Nigeria, I did see your CEC folks with bullhorns calling on folks for free rides to hear "Pastor Chris preach", right in front of Deeper life HQ building under construction. We need hard facts on what they are doing and please can you get them to work on SECURITY FOR ALL?

Pastor chris has done a lot for this nation. Look at what the church has been doing in every 1st of October to develop the nation. Apart from free distribution of rhapsody . Security Hilux Patrol vans, walkie-talkie , computers etc were given to police force , road safety Corp , computer centres were build for prisons , with fast Internet, library worth of millions were donated to schools. Borehole were built in villages, school buses were donated. One of the beneficiary of school buses was Edo college where pastor chris schooled . These are just few of the things the man of God has been doing as a contribution , he loves children and he believes every child is your child, he has hostels for children who were taken off the streets . He believed that the agberos we have today turned out the way they are because they lack opportunity . So he gi es opportunity to these helpless children . We have outreaches to prosti.tutes also through the inner city mission arm of the church. We get them saved and empowered them with skills and capital to start business. You can't sit in from of computer  to know the sacrifices churches are making.

Dulcet7:
Dear madam Jesoul, here as promised and sorry its late

You already know some of my views on religion from other threads. As always, I state, I am a theist - I believe in God and for me there is no further embellishment by the title of any religious persuasion except my heart.

My views about the full import of salvation
Salvation is not an event, it is a discovery, an experience that spans time. It is a journey that reunites man with purpose: and this purpose is to jumpstart his fellow man on the road to their own salvation. The journey is a discovery of love - becoming a love filled individual, a true paragon of loving virtue.

Salvation begins with a spark of discovery - of love - then continues into an experience. The "love of God" is a catalyst that makes that experience move along faster from the moment that spark happens.

For some people, that spark is "confessing Jesus as their Lord and Saviour" as Christians do (since it makes them - SOME of them - reflect on true love as a gift from God - and makes them want to apply it to fellow man) but that spark is not enough (even Jesus never mentioned confessing trust in his sacrifice as the final requirement for salvation - besides saying the prerequisite that he would be lifted up like Moses' snake for people's sins - please correct me if I am wrong - he actually said its not all who call him Lord that are his own people) which is why the same Christians are yet told to work out their salvation with fear and trembling.

A Muslim might receive such an enlightenment spark while doing one of his 5 required pillars of faith and suddenly finding out the secret truth that may escape many other Muslims - those pillars are symbolic - and stumbling upon this symbolism he finds a spark of salvation that leads him on a brand new journey - still in Islam - but now on the way to assured salvation.

For an Eastern mystic, it might be a moment of meditation which enlightens them about a duty of love to fellow man.

For others, it might be a neighbor's kind gesture - clothes or food when you were in need - the giver was undergoing salvation and you were in their path to help them get there - it is like using a candle to light another candle - both now have the light but the first one didnt lose anything. Whatever the spark was, from whatever religion, grow the spark and experience the journey of salvation.

Your write up has great elements of truth, but one fact remain, salvation can only be found in Jesus.

@cold ,

« #29 on: Yesterday at 02:59:54 PM »

waiting for JoAgbaje to come explain this one away as usual

I am not defending anything , I only stated the intention of the church. The press has been malicious .  Why is the emphasis on money and not seat reservation which is the purpose. If anybody come and ask me that a church was charging people money at the gate to enter church and whoever can't pay the money would be turned back! I will say that the  church is in error. So I'm not surprise at the responses of these ministers, the press tells them half truth. 

But the story is not like that. Have there not been Christian conferences and seminars that people go to and register with money? Why is the press now painting wry g picture as though someone stands at the gate collecting money from people. Many critics don't have the real picture and I don't blame them , I would have felt that way. How can a poor man be turned away at the gate if the house of God because he didn't have 1,000 to PAY.  But that was not the case. People were dully informed that admission into that particular auditorium is strictly by seat reservation. Let's leave out the money part for a moment. Suposing  the ticket is free, won't people be turned back ?  But the church didn't turn them back, they were only directed to other halls where they could have seat without ticket. Those who obtain the ticket did it with gladness, it wasn't an imposition as press reported. No body was collecting money at the gate, you only show your seat reservation ticket and you are admitted. If you don't have a ticket ,it means if you go in, you will end up taking another person seat.so if the reservation had been free, many will still not gain access .it is not a must to be in that particular hall. Those who pay for it only see it as a seed which they are glad to sow .     

The truth is distorted from reservation of seat to "CHARGING MONEY AT THE GATE" any person will be offended at that. 
Maybe what the organisers did which seem best to them may not be the best, but we leave that to God. The intention was not to exploit people. Members of CEC are givers. If we had been told to sow finacial seed for the programme, we will gladly sow. It is outsiders that are complaining for us.

manugbo:
How much did Jesus christ collected from the multitude?
Just a sign of end time

So you think Jesus didn't collect money ? Where on earth did he get money to feed himself and the apostles?

KunleOshob:
And were did Paul solicit for money in the verse above which you have obviously quoted outof context

I didn't quote out of context . If you read it from verse 6 it's there.

Galatians 6:6
6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things

Galatians 6:6 (amp)
6 Those who are taught the Word of God should help their teachers by paying them. 



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1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son

For everyone who’s born again, eternal life is not a promise from God that we look forward to Him fulfilling in our lives when we get to heaven, rather, it’s something He’s already given to us FREELY! The Bible says, “…the gift of God is eternal life” (Romans 6:23).

Notice that it doesn’t say, “a gift from God is eternal life.” Eternal life is not one of the gifts of God; it is the gift of God. It encapsulates all the other gifts of God. When God gives you eternal life, it means you’ve got everything else. This gift of eternal life has been freely given to everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ:

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”

Eternal life is actually the nature of God; the very life of God. That’s the life Jesus brought to the world. He came that we might have life – eternal life – to the full (John 10:10); it’s the transcendent life of glory. If you’re born again, that divine, glorious life of God has supplanted your frail humanity. “But Pastor Chris, how do I know I have eternal life in me, when I can’t feel it in my body?” you might ask.

Well, that’s because eternal life is in your spirit and not your physical body, but the impact of that life is revealed in your physical body. You don’t have to “feel” it in your body first to be conscious that you have eternal life; it’s there in your spirit. That’s why the Apostle John, writing to the Church, stressed the necessity for God’s children to be conscious that they have eternal life:

1 John 5:3
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that you may know that you have eternal life…”

This wondrous, incorruptible, miracle-life of God in you can neither be tainted, defiled nor corrupted by sickness, disease, failure, death or the devil! That life in you makes you an associate of the God-kind, being the essence of divinity! It has brought you into fraternity with divinity. The life God has given you is greater than sickness, disease, failure and death; it’s the life that has made you superior to satan!

Confession
I have the miracle-life of God in me. Therefore I am an associate of the God-kind, and a partaker of the divine nature, having been made free of the corrupting influences, decadence and destruction in the world. Today and always, I’m conscious of the transcendent life of glory and victory that God has given me through Christ Jesus. Amen.

Further Study
1 John 5:11-12 MSG
This is the testimony in essence: God gave us eternal life; the life is in his Son. So, whoever has the Son, has life; whoever rejects the Son, rejects life.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Romans 8:32
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

If you work for a thriving corporation, it may increase your wages regularly, give you lots of fringe benefits with certain allowances – a large house, a chauffeur-driven car, summer holidays abroad, scholarships for your children, free medical care, etc. But all these things don’t compare with what the Lord gives. He is the “greatest blesser.” He daily loads us with blessings – benefits

Psalm 68:19
“Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation, Selah” ().

Think about it: If a firm could give all such wonderful benefits to those in its employ, imagine then what God would give you for working for Him! God’s blessings upon your life, unlike what that multinational corporation you work for may give you, aren’t temporary; they are permanent and irrevocable”

Romans 11:29
“For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance”

. He doesn’t take back what He gives you.Your employers may give you all the nice things but they can one day decide to retire you. There is, however no retirement in God nor is there a pension scheme. Nobody is on pension in God’s Kingdom. The more you work for the Lord and with the Lord in His “business” of reaching the lost with the Gospel, the more He honours you for doing it. There’s no man or group on earth that can bless you the way God has already blessed you, and can bless you. Continue to serve Him diligently and He’ll reward your faith and faithfulness.

Prayer
Dear Father, I rejoice exceedingly today knowing that you’ve given me “the blessing,” and endowed with all I need for life and godliness through Christ Jesus. Thank you for your immeasurable gift of grace, and for commanding your blessing upon me forever, causing everything I lay my hands upon to succeed and flourish, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study
Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Genesis 12:2
And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

1 Peter 3:9
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

It was a mistake , dude, I was trying to reply and mistakenly click modify.

I still want Kunle to define cult.

Enigma:
No I didn't "brother" to go to any of the links; if you like you can 'sister' to go there. Going to the site was not necessary because I was making a more general point which remains true i.e. that WoFers, and you Joagbaje especially, have denied the divinity of Christ a number of times on this very forum; and when you Joagbaje were confronted, you started to "chop mouth".

As I have said before, you may be able to fool many people with your cunny cunny but I and many people are wise to the fact that bottom line is you are a deceiver out to maintain your income stream from being a Christ Embassy "pastor".

Trash! , you are just looking for how to hide your folly. And besides , when did I deny divinity of christ? Christ will always be divine like wise me . I'm partaker of his divinity dude.

2 Peter 1:4
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, 

1 John 4:17
. . .  because as he is, so are we in this world.

toba:
Go blesses every second, minute, hour, day, week, month, quarter and every year. rushing to God on 31st night is fear of the unknown and insecurity based on sinful life lived during the end thats about tio end. also God is not the founder of the calendar January - December we use. He sees all days as same

Great truth, God dwells in eternity, days and time are only for man. But beyond the fear it's a honour for God to thank him for his blessing throughout the year.

@ogajim

ogajim:
Why don't you just say Pastors who are actually serving the little master are leading folks away from Salvation and ought to be held accountable.[color]

That's left for God to judge dude. 

If these Pastors were real, how come Nigeria is still the way it is?

What a childish question? You should have rather  said "If God is really a God how come the world is like this?"

It takes blindness not to see the great works ministers are doing.

[ With the "unification of business leaders, politicians, pastors and other kinds of OLES, little wonder God doesn't hear their prayers!

It's their prayers and that of every saint that is keeping the world till now. Prayers of the church is restraining evil. And once the church is ruptured , evil will be unleashed on the earth. Read your bible.

Salvation is a personal experience and journey as the Holy Bible clearly told Christians that each one of us would have to " work his/her own Salvation with fear and trembling"

And what are you doing about  personal salvation ? You ought to be more concerned about that. Are you born again now?
Because if you are there is a love and reverence you ought to have for all saints and Gods minister.  You need the personal salvation experience .

simplymee:
@ IYKE619
I still dey ask o,,,,, u seem to know much of this freemason society. Are u not a cult member? how come u keep making these silly accusations? Any way, NA TREE WEY DEY FRUITFUL NA IM MEN DEY STONE. OBOY I ASK U AGAIN ONI LO JEWO!

He said his father is a member, so the thing is travelling in his vein and he sees every person in that light.

@alaper

alaper:
Please take my advice:  Anyone who asks for your money quoting  the bible and promising some 'blessing' in the future is by definition committing advance fee fraud!!

Galatians 6:7-9
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Interestingly Paul has obviously committed advance fee fraud

Enigma:
I have not gone to the links and I won't bother. However, I do know that the Word of Faith people (aka WoFers) deny the divinity of Christ all the time ---- though sometimes in subtle ways. In fact their representatives on this forum have done the same many times; in one event they were challenged expressly and they started to waffle.

Paradoxically, they conversely elevate man with their "ye are gods" false doctrine.

Proverbs 14:15
15 A gullible person believes anything, but a sensible person watches his step. 

 Proverbs 29:11
11 A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise[ man] keepeth it in till afterwards. 

You didn't brother to go to the link but when we share a testimony , you will demand for proof. See how your bias has landed you into wrong judgement . You have become partakers of another mans sin.you guys should repent.  Let's preached the gospel to sinners .

1 Timothy 5:22
22 . . . .neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. 

1 Peter 4:15
15 But let none of you suffer. . [ as] an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

@Op
You seem not to have any work to do than trying to ridicule Gods ministers. How would any minister or pastor chris deny the divinity of Jesus? Can you provide the link or a title of message?

The fact that a Christian is one with christ does not reduce what Jesus is. He is not jealous of us, he is glad that we are one with him. That's what he died for. Thesame life in him flows through us.