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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:29pm On Jan 08, 2018
Yes she can come hard on KC too. Way to go


safarigirl:
why is he earning 115k a week? Pesin wey no dey kick ball?

They should cut his wages if need be, he no kuku get wife and children, wetin e dey use him money do?

If Iheanacho's brain is functioning well, he would tell his agent to find him a club, anyone at all. The contract should include that they must play him for a certain period of time, he should be willing to slash his pay, but playing time must be part of his contract.....this is if his brain is functioning well, of course
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:04pm On Jan 08, 2018
It’s simple. You are focusing on the games he was rather quiet. And I’m focusing on the ones he was marvelous. Yes he was marvelous against Zambia and Argentina.
And I’m hopeful he brings that again and again. That’s all.



goldfish80:
I don't know what you're trying to prove. Yes he scored a goal against Zambia in his cameo and a very good 45 minutes against Argentina. Between those 2 games, he had a very quiet game against Algeria in Omduman. Before that he was benched in the double headers against Cameroun and was atrociously out of form against South Africa.
He hasn't been that marvelous for the super eagles. I want to make that very clear to you
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:04pm On Jan 08, 2018
hahahaha.. you don't want to watch this fight
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:58am On Jan 08, 2018
it's ok
forgiveness:
I already moved on before you stirred it up.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:50am On Jan 08, 2018
okay e don do.. you get common sense..
can we move on now?

forgiveness:
That's why I said you lack common sense if you insists with your rigid thought formed by people's perspectives.

Try search if my claims are true but if you're lazy enough you should have asked for proofs and I would have given you on a platter of goal.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:44am On Jan 08, 2018
sir, I'm a relatively new to this thread. You are an open book but you don't even know it..
okay, i'm done with you.

Modified
I never said you should leave the thread

forgiveness:
Then, what spur your agitation to ask me to leave the thread?

Besides, where did you read I am clamouring for Kayode or talking about Rohr this year?

If I have not rally round the SE, I don't think you will see the likes of Iwobi, Aina, Ebuehi, Brian, Odion, Ogu, Agu and Agbo in the gwg because majority fought hard against me because of these players.


So, your notion or insinuation that I have never supported or rally round for the SE once is tantamount to blackmail.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:28am On Jan 08, 2018
Sir, I did not read all your fights with Safari..
But if we are still talking about this Kayode issues and your perception of the NFF and Rohr in this year 2018, then I dont know what to say to you. I was just saying that record have been overplayed..
I no even put mouth for your fight with safari.

Can we just rally around the SE for once? That's what this thread is for. As long as we are winning let's support Rohr.

forgiveness:
Then, you should be wise enough to try understand what could cause harm to your neighbor and respect their views rather than taking sides to further add salt to injury.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:23am On Jan 08, 2018
You said I don't have common sense.. So I had to refer you to what I was making a reference to earlier..That's not a shot.
You have been the one firing all the shots. And you can go on.

forgiveness:
You are still firing a shot but you expect peace. Huh?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:19am On Jan 08, 2018
i dont even know what that means
see you now

forgiveness:
Is gbegiri boys derogatory or not? Answer.

I know you will not answer because I saw you concurred with one who made a derogatory words here.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:12am On Jan 08, 2018
no, i'm now the weakling.. Happy now?

forgiveness:
You had better not remain in your mud as you are know for.

I though you said you are my nightmare because you thought you faced a weakling?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:11am On Jan 08, 2018
okay you can have all the credits for your tribesman building Nairaland okay.
You win, can we move on now?


forgiveness:
You should have quietness don't mean weakness.

Where your stops is someone own start.

When I said you devoid of common sense you think i am joking.

If not, where in my post did you ever see me talk about what my tribesmen does well?

Are you sure you are not in delusion?

Besides, it is good one set a precedings for his children to follow else the bible wouldn't have said so.

Pls, learn.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:09am On Jan 08, 2018
it's okay.. i'm done with that matter.. na ignore mode now.

Kog45:
Jobie you said something very vital which i appreciate,you said you always have better approach to issues every year which mean you always evaluate yourself every end of the year,so don't slide and move on.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:01am On Jan 08, 2018
Sir, I won't get dirty I promise you.
I will leave your fellow tribesmen to put u to order. they know you are way out of hand.

forgiveness:
Do not hide behind people and act like a man.

Who are the everyone save a particular set of tribal bigots like you who doesn't see anything wrong in someone making a derogatory words against a tribe?

Maybe gbegiri boys or save the reputation of your people is a normal routine used by you.

Mr man, face front.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:00am On Jan 08, 2018
sir, this your guy dey yan better kpwan..
He keeps exposing himself day after day.. the problem is we have political/tribal hate forums.. why do some people care to waste their talents here?

Kog45:
My oga when things don settled u wan wake am abi,OK continue d rubble cos i no understand wetin dey vex u now and it seem ya own vex go scatter ground, pls biko let's move on and talk football.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:52am On Jan 08, 2018
Thank you my sister..

safarigirl:
okay, this is a lie. Last week, I mentioned here that Iwobi plays woefully for Arsenal, so I don't know how you can claim that only you and Omanbala have called him out when I have done same.

Similarly, when it was claimed on this thread that Iwobi is a new face of SE, overtaking Kelechi, I also said that he had only risen to that level because of his last two games for us, not because of consistency

So, I refuse to be lumped into people who have been blinded to Iwobi's poor performance for Arsenal, however, unlike you, I am not in that group that believes we should be very worried.

Why?

Because if you are worried, who will you replace him with? My problem with you worriers on this thread, is that you have no viable options outside these players, so why should you be worried about something you cannot change?

It is up to Iwobi to determine what kind o performance he puts up in Russia, it is up to him to make a statement in his career....he will be in Russia fo sure, so, why worry about what you cannot change?

If you guys can come up with any alternatives, great! But there are some names on that team that have no alternatives and we should therefore, not unnecessarily stress ourselves with worry, but rather, be positive.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:48am On Jan 08, 2018
you can go harder if you want. I've only given you a very good advice.
The day will come when everyone will come hard on you.

Modified
The worse side of me have already been seen on this thread.. As a person, I don't speak like how I speak a year ago. if you were my friend on FB you will see a progressive change in the way I post year after year.. That is growth.

Let me add that what my tribesman does, will never score me any points.
I wonder why people reason like this... huh

forgiveness:
I hope you are well because if you're, you would not spew this gibberish.

Mr man, if anybody makes derogatory words against a whole tribe and your common sense didn't tell you this same platform was created by the same tribe you and your cohort abhor then you must be a lost soul.

Next time don't come here and start giving useless advice because if next you do, I will go harder on you than this.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:34am On Jan 08, 2018
Success only made that category because he's been long considered by Rohr just like Bazee. If he doesn't get game time before March he may as well kiss Russia goodbye.

Kog45:
Bazee is getting games but Success is not even making match day squad so different scenario.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:25am On Jan 08, 2018
I am saying Iwobi wasn't above criticism here when he played badly for SE. If we can criticize him when he played badly for the SE, it shows he is not viewed as a sacred cow.
Just come out clearly and say what he did against Zambia and Argentina was a fluke, then we can start talking.

Well, I'm only hopeful that he continues with his recent performances for SE. Because he's been that player scoring in crucial moments for us. It's not like the rest of our players have always been consistent. I want us to do well at the World Cup. And that's why I'm on this thread.. I'm not here to play favoritisms.. to protect some players and attack others. My motive is clean. As long as Iwobi can continue to bring that good recent SE form to the table I am okay.


goldfish80:
My point is simple and very plain.
Iwobi haven't been that great for both club and country if we judge his all round round game in 2017.

What he does for Arsenal matters alot in his development. Hypothetically, he finds himself in league 2 he won't be considered for SE. So club form matters in the grand scheme of things. Club form can never be isolated

Iwobi is not above criticism, he has has done nothing to be above criticism. He's neither Messi nor Pele.

Finally, Arsenal fans aren't out to get him because he's Nigerian. All Arsenal fans are not English. The English ones have long forgotten he dropped England for Nigeria. Rob Holden, Walcot, Welbeck were the most heavily criticized yesterday and they are English.
I took my time to type all these because many posters here seem to erroneously think people are out to get Iwobi because he's Nigerian.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:58am On Jan 08, 2018
Ahmed Musa bagged an assist against Argentina. If he does something similar again during the March friendlies, do you think his chances will be slim?
On Awaziem, I'm going by performance in SE colors. He did well against Argentina. If he repeats a similar feat during the March friendlies he would be as well on the plane to Russia.

On Vincent Enyeama (IF), no point replaying this debate. I already put a big IF.
On Kayode, I said "IF in consideration", he has a point to prove. You are saying if Nwakaeme, is then he should be. That's what you say. But you won't be the one handing the invites.

I am not bringing any sentiments to his. When Aina made his debut I hailed him. But since then he's not been impressive for SE. He has a point to prove. I never said he won't make it to Russia.

Bazeee just started to get game time.. Both he and Success are in a similar category. Rohr is interested in both, but something has always stood in their way to joining to the team.. Let's be realistic. They belong to the same class. no sentiments here. Once Success starts to get game time, he will definitely get a call up.

As regards our group chances, let's wait and see.

Echiejile retained his staring place for a long spell due to lack of competition. The situation is very different now.

Kog45:
Good list but read my little inputs.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:42am On Jan 08, 2018
I've already made my point. Iwobi was not great for Arsenal during the period he sent us to the WC and when he scored a double against Argentina. So what is your conclusion on that? So when I say if he keeps performing well for us, that's the context. If you want to judge him by the entire 2017 and say he is not good enough, then what are you suggesting we should do about it?
What is your point really?

goldfish80:
In the entire 2017, he had one good game for the national team. That is not good enough no matter how anybody feels about it.
It is a miscalculation if you think he has been doing well for the SE and his form for Arsenal is negligible. Period
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:30am On Jan 08, 2018
Read my first comment again.
I said i'm fine as long as he keeps doing well for SE.
Why should I judge him by Arsenal standards if he keeps doing for us what he did against Argentina?
it's simple logic. It's not setting the bar low.. It seems like you people want angels to come and play for SE. The reality on ground is that there are few Nigerians getting regular playing time in the big leagues. And there is nothing we can do about that.. Or what solution are you suggesting? You are talking about being over protective of him as if his sponsors are here.. we are just Nairalanders, we don't decide how these players careers go.

When Iwobi was performing badly for SE, many of us here called him out.. Maybe you are referring to another thread where you and Omanbala belong.

goldfish80:
It's not in my head. Myself and Omabala have been the few ones bold enough to call him out for poor performances when the majority have chosen to have a go at Arsenal fans instead of looking at the boy's performance critically.

I find it it ironic that we complain about Nigerian players lack of international recognition in individual awards, but we set the bar very low for the promising ones.
This is exactly what you're doing by ignoring his club form and judging him solely on his last game for the national team a couple of months back.

This is not the way to go if excellence is our aspiration.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:07am On Jan 08, 2018
Cardiff City are set to announce the signing of ex-Watford striker Ogo Obi.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:02am On Jan 08, 2018
Does it not surprise you that his shots are so on point when playing for SE?
There is no logic in complaining about his performances against Algeria in the past etc, when he's done very well in his most recent matches for SE. Judge him by that until he starts performing badly.. When he was doing badly for us, we all called him out here.. nobody is protective of him.. that's just in your head.



goldfish80:
YOu can give him that benefit of doubt, doesn't change the facts. Hopefully, it doesn't blowback in our faces when it matters most since we choose to be over protective.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:33am On Jan 08, 2018
You are as good as your last game for SE.

goldfish80:
But he hasn't been that good for the SE either. Take away the second half against Argentina and the cameo goal against Zambia, he's been flat ever since.

We complained on this thread about his output against Algeria at home and South Africa. His poor display in those 2 games saw him benched for Moses Simon in the Cameroun double header and Zambia decider.

You may choose to turn a blind eye to his below par performances but not all of us have goldfish memory.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:22am On Jan 08, 2018
Forgiveness , please change the broken record. it's overplayed . Else you can open a new thread for that specific purpose.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:13am On Jan 08, 2018
grin

safarigirl:
who dem come buy am for? Girona?

I could have sworn it was said here that Guardiola broke an arm and a leg to get Kayode last minute? Someone claimed that Guardiola had such high regard for Kayode that he simply had to get him into City. Is that not the case?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:06am On Jan 08, 2018
Doesn't bother me, as long as he keeps doing a good job for SE.

goldfish80:
By the way, I saw the Arsenal game and Iwobi wasn't impressive. Take away the assist, he was rather flat and lost the ball too much for my liking.

I always saw Alex Iwobi as a guy with decent technical level and eye of a needle pass but he seem to loose the ball and misplace passes too easily these days.
I thought the Latino model he was dating a while back was his distraction but he haven't improved since their break up.

Being a young player, he can certainly find his form later but football does not wait for anyone. With the back in form Wilshere,a recuperating Ramsey and speculations of Lemar/Mahrez or whoever to cushion the loss of Sanchez. Things could get really tight for him.
Hopefully, his uncles gets across to him & told him the gospel truth.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie:
As is stands, these are sure bankers
1. Victor Moses
2. Obi Mikel
3. Kelechi Iheanacho
4. Alex Iwobi
5. Odion Ighalo
6. Leon Balogun
7. Troost Ekong
8. Moses Simon
9. Shehu Abdullahi
10. Wilfred Ndidi
11. Eddy Onazi

If these players can show their relevance again in March friendlies, they are sure bankers
1. Brian Idowu
2. John Ogu
3. Tyronne Ebuehi
4. Ahmed Musa
5. Chidozie Awaziem
6. Kenneth Omeruo
7. Francis Uzoho
8. Vincent Enyeama (IF)

These players still have a lot to prove:
1. Mikel Agu
2. Anthony Nwakaeme
3. Olarenwaju Kayode (IF in consideration)
4. Oghenekaro Etebo
5. Henry Onyekuru
6. Ola Aina
7. Elderson Echiejile

Some players who are not in the team who would get an opportunity to gate crash:
1. Joel Obi
2. Sarenren Bazee
3. Isaac Success

I hope I am not missing any names here

I don't expect it to be an easy pass for Torunarigha, Uduokhai and Akpboguma if they all switch to playing for Nigeria. But one of the trio may make it to Russia.

Our chances:
Nigeria will go past the second round for the first time. That I am sure of. I foresee us stealing a point from the Argentina game.
Iceland will shock one team in the group.
Argentina will get two unfavorable results. you know anything below a win is unfavorable for them.



g0tze:
Let's do away with the bickerings and focus on the task at hand which is the world cup.
I have some important questions to ask.
For instance which players can anyone of you rightly predict will be among the 23 man squard.
Is there a possibility that the super eagles will make it past second round or What are the chances of eagles making it past second round.
goldfish80 TheGoodjoe safarigirl somehow joebie BascoVanveli tbaba1234 OMANBALA1 kog45 Oasis007 icons4 icon79 humility017 terzurum5 i need your thoughts on my question
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:36pm On Jan 06, 2018
grin

superbloke:
Have you forgotten Rohr is corrupt? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:24pm On Jan 06, 2018
I have said it here that we should not expect Leicester to play in a way that will favor KC but it’s always the other way round. KC has to fit into the coach’s philosophy, else move on

forgiveness:
Why are you not telling this to those cursing Leicester city's coaches for not playing Iheanacho?

oh! i remember I am among Nigerians full of sentiments.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:40pm On Jan 06, 2018
Sorry to take you in two parts.
Kayode was given a chance. And I’m sure Rohr saw him well enough in camp. Respect the coach’s decision.

forgiveness:
If KC is not doing well in his club but he still gets the chance to play for the SE and 'performs', how do you know Kayode will not perform better in GWG if given the chance though he has not scored 'this' season since club performance is not the yardstick for call into D SE?

You claimed in your first post that Kelechi is perfoming in the GWG hence he deserves to be called but I asked how do you know Kayode will not perform better if given the same CHANCE in the GWG?

Unfortunately, you began with an attack instead of given a more cogent and reasonable answer.


Now, let me ask you, with all the his performances that earned him goals and individual awards that he won last season how many chances was he given to play?

Someone even said Onyekuru performed better than Kayode with the few chances he got. Perhaps, we have forgotten so soon how Kayode snatched the ball and gave a through pass to free Iheanacho on one on one with the goalkeeper against Senegal that salvaged a draw after Iheanacho scored that penalty.

That was even his first match in GWG and he didn't spent up to 15 minutes to rescue a point as a SS.

Is that not performace?

Based on your first question, the reality on ground never favored Kayode because when he performed he was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE and that has rendered the second question inconsequential. EOD

However, where did you read me make case for Kayode to be called? I hope u no dey drink maya dey take read my post oooo? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:35pm On Jan 06, 2018
You are not being logical.
There are many what IFs.
It makes no sense to drop a player who is performing for your team just on the ground that he is not performing for his club.

If we go by club performance, we will not have a team. However a player have to earn his invite either by club performance or SE performance. Kayode is a striker. He needs to score first. Today I don’t support Tammy because he is not performing. KC is ahead of Tammy, because he is in the team and has shown he is relevant. You can as well make an excuse for every player with your What Ifs



forgiveness:
If KC is not doing well in his club but he still gets the chance to play for the SE and 'performs', how do you know Kayode will not perform better in GWG if given the chance though he has not scored 'this' season since club performance is not the yardstick for call into D SE?

You claimed in your first post that Kelechi is perfoming in the GWG hence he deserves to be called but I asked how do you know Kayode will not perform better if given the same CHANCE in the GWG?

Unfortunately, you began with an attack instead of given a more cogent and reasonable answer.


Now, let me ask you, with all the his performances that earned him goals and individual awards that he won last season how many chances was he given to play?

Someone even said Onyekuru performed better than Kayode with the few chances he got. Perhaps, we have forgotten so soon how Kayode snatched the ball and gave a through pass to free Iheanacho on one on one with the goalkeeper against Senegal that salvaged a draw after Iheanacho scored that penalty.

That was even his first match in GWG and he didn't spent up to 15 minutes to rescue a point as a SS.

Is that not performace?

Based on your first question, the reality on ground never favored Kayode because when he performed he was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE and that has rendered the second question inconsequential. EOD

However, where did you read me make case for Kayode to be called? I hope u no dey drink maya dey take read my post oooo? grin

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