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RobinHez:
Er... Uncle Johnny, I saw this piece of info on my G+ feed... I dunno how true it is (heck! I seriously doubt it's authenticity! )

2ft wall around the earth? that almost certainly untrue no doubt... A severe lie that is

Hanging Towers of Babylon

You have probably heard about King Nebuchadnezzar - viewed as one of the most powerful King to have ruled in ancient kingdoms.

This is not about his military or masculine power this is about Love, the beast in love.

Nebuchadnezzar married the young beautiful Amtis from the kingdom of Media a very tropical land with beautiful green veiled moutains, trees, green grasses, flowers.

The new queen became very home sick and missed the usual green beauty of her hometown in contrast to the harsh sun baked sandy lands of Babylonia.

King Nebuchadnezzar decided to bring media to her - he had a tower built almost 75feet tall, filled with flowers, trees, grasses to give the queen a little slice of home.

Such edifice certainly is a masterpiece that shows architectural wizardry of the Babylonians..

the irrigation system of such work in ancient times is still a thing of wonder..

https://paradoxoff.com/files/2016/05/hanging-gardens-of-babylon-3-800x600.jpg

jmichlins:
sadly you can not hear about this here and i do not know why we are not scientificaly inclined. For up four days now this stuff is trending on twitter and facebook now

As for me i cannot miss out on such marvel, the internet is the greatest tool made by man - for just one click you have unlimited knowledge at your disposal our father's had no such luxury.

Too bad some youths still prefer to use it to get dumber.

Great Pyramids of Giza In Egypt

The Pyramids were built at the pinnacle of the flourishing period of the great ancient egyptian civilizations, up to 130 them still stands till this day though there is still chance that very many more still lurk buried deep in the desertic lands of the nile.

The pyramids held the record for the tallest man made structures in the world for more than 4,000 years after there were built and up to this day remains one of the few outstanding work of ancient architecture and engineering mastery standing nearly intact.

The Pyramids were developed from small temples dedicated to dead pharaohs which slowly evolved in height to be closer to Ra [Sun God] and developed to what we have today.

The pyramids of Giza attributed to an ancient egyptian architect Imhotep built 2584 and 2561 BCE for the Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu.

Though massive slave labour was certainly utilized, how they managed to pull of such engineering feat with remarkable geometrical mastery still is awe striking to us.

[P.s: Several other civilizations also built pyramids even the small Igbo pyramids at Nsudde.]

Modern man has always boasted of superior technology and knowledge than ancient human but as these ancient societies were also just as human as us with same brain and curious nature they achieved remarkable feats that we still stand in awe at their mastery.

They have been stupendous feats achieved with such a crude technology [so very rich in slave labour] that mostly how they pulled it off without modern technology and tools still remain a massive bugging question humbling our intellectual ego.

there are several thousands of such remarkable ancient masterpiece but let us mention the few we can spare.

UyiIredia:
Heaven is a spiritual location. You should know this.

Apparently heaven is so physical that a tower can be built to access it if you don't have airplanes but if you do have airplanes then you are so good to go...

KingEbukasBlog:
I should explain it to you because I was there as a witness or what ? Aint you embarrassed by the 'comical nature' of once being a fish ?


Anyway , Christ ascending into heaven - he went into it through heaven's portal . That's the same portal or so the people of the Tower of Babel tried to access . Christ , a supernatural being , had the power to defy gravity and move into it - ascension - while man needed a tower to access it since there were no aircraft .

The whole event involved the supernatural and is accepted as true by faith . The same way you accept that man evolved from fish by faith .

KingEbukasBlog:
I should explain it to you because I was there as a witness or what ? Aint you embarrassed by the 'comical nature' of once being a fish ?


Anyway , Christ ascending into heaven - he went into it through heaven's portal . That's the same portal or so the people of the Tower of Babel tried to access . Christ , a supernatural being , had the power to defy gravity and move into it - ascension - while man needed a tower to access it since there were no aircraft .

The whole event involved the supernatural and is accepted as true by faith . The same way you accept that man evolved from fish by faith .

Heaven's portal... Chai!!! Could you point at it so we can simply go through it with a rocket, forget the tower of babel, rockets will do better now..

Hahahahahaha you never disappoint bro... 'heaven's portal' Jesu That's a new one... I love this one, the bolded also beautiful..

Let me read again

I have been following it bumber to bumber on NASA's twitter handle...

mcprichy:
What is meaning of God? If God in your contest refer to The Uncreated Self Existing Consciousness who existed from begining then This Being is never omnibenevolent, omniscient and omnipotent, please hear me out

For a being to Self Exist from Nothing means He will be Absolute Nothing in nature, an invinscible transcend Vibration or Word with a Special Anointing to Adapt to any state of existence be it Nothing, Energy or Matter: such is absolute unit of Atom and reason for names of Creator in different cultures.
Adapt =>Akamara
Nothing=>RA=>EL
Anointing=>Christ
Word=>Phanes=>Olofin
Atom=>Atum

After The Creator Self Exist as Nothing then in process of Time manifest Energy and Matter which made Creator Powerful omnibenevolent, omniscient and omnipotent hence Creator is different from Power of Creator.

At each point in time, there are 7 Primal Energy manifested out of Nothing by Creator, without The 7, Creator Default Power is based on Energy and Matter been adapting to, if as human, if human don't fly then Creator wont

To create life forms, Creator sacrificed previous 7 Primals but base on Law of Conservation of Energy, new 7 regenerated and Creator return to state of Nothing since then till today.

It was prophesied that Creator will be reborn as Human and will merge The New 7 in event call Marriage of Lamb cos Image of Creator is both MaleFemale.

There are human who knew this secret hence scam the prophecy to 'steal' Power and Glory of Creator.

Its a pity that Jesus was one of them by claiming Creator impregnate his mum hence want to inherit Power of his dad but he fail.

When Creator merge back with The 7, things will change till then we are On Your Own

Pray tell sir how did you get to know this?

Immorttal:
this above lines is definitely the basis of my atheistic journey.Yes,there is a creator but certainly not Jehovah nor any other 5000+ gods.He don't even crave our worship nor praises if he does then certainly the animals are no exception. Evil and good are part of physical existence,none of them is actually bad as both teaches ernomously,if you are a deep thinking person it won't take you time to understand that our life on this platform was built on survival of the fittest just exactly like other living things(plants & animals.

Needing worship, reverence and acknowledge is a mundane need fueled by both ego and human emotional vulnerability.

For a God to trail such mundane flaws is petty, childish, insecure, egoistic and vulnerable.

Such traits are variance with Omnipotence, omniscience and omnibenevolence.

For something to 'need' or 'wants' something reveals imperfection, something perfect needs nothing.

A God who needs things [especially mundane character flaws ] is too petty to be perfect .

A God who is perfect cannot need, require, want or said desire anything let alone from tiny humans that are almost inexistent in a humongous cosmos.

A perfect God who needs something is a paradox and cannot exist...

So whoever asserts a perfect God shows worship, acknowledgement, praise and reverence to such figure to be utterly useless and irrelevant.

For one to assert a God who needs these then you'd have to start by acknowledging it is imperfect, flawed with a huge ego problem.

Touchnot01:
There you go, ive bolded your illogical statements. When you really choose to be open minded, you will see how much those claims are devoid of evidence and logic.
You might as well cal the bible a science textbook or point out where God commanded humans not to work. Even luke was a physician.
I dont do this but all you and others show here everyday is obsession and hate for a non-existent God. Most of these threads are just weak, pathetic and immature noises. You all make it obvious why people hate God. Its never logic.
Dont bother quoting me.

I wish you could show those statements were illogical not just say they were

flamingREED:
For your information, there's no claim of the Bible that is wrong.

I've been in this battle for years.

You can open a thread for you and me only and see how I'll prove the Bible right and you blindingly wrong.

I'm my God's swordsman.

Thanks.

Isn't it remarkable how an omnipotent God always needs you for it's struggles, always needs you to speak for it - it is really remarkable.

SenatePresdo:
N.B; This is a free thread, irrespective of your Religious view, you all are welcomed. Just focus on what I'm about to write. But however, I will try my best to make every Nomad, eskimo and headhunter
to grasp extensively on what
I'm about writing and share his/her own view.
Thank you.

I have been an observer on this Religion section for quite some time,
But the rate at which young Christians turn into agnostics/atheists is quite disheartening.

Instead of this section to make them grow in spirit, it instead make them lose faith drastically.
Courtesy; Scientific explanations, Rational thinking and Logic.

Scientists only Explains God's handiwork more intelligently than our Stone age authors of the bible.
Saying that God inspired them in writing it is correct, but they couldn't understand the science behind what God inspired into them, because they weren't educated.
Instead they explained it in their own layman's view.
Even the future generation scientists will explain it much more intelligently and detailed than we are doing now.
This future scientists would most likely debunk some of our today's scientific theories.
Life will continue and knowledge will be increasing.

Assuming time machine eventually become a reality, and a Professor of physics from 3016 A.D visits us now to teach us physics,
Most of this modern day great physicists might sound stone age to him!

So for the fact that our stone-age men account of the earth doesn't sound intelligent to us, shouldn't give us the guarantee to call all of their works and experiences MYTHS AND LEGENDS. Unless you are saying they never observed or experienced anything
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So I don't see why someone will stop believing in God because of the explanation of an uneducated stone-age man that doesn't have much knowledge and wanted to write it in a way that his fellow stone-age men will understand.

Personally as a Christian and also a moralist, I'm neither against nor in support of atheism.
Besides we have freedom of worship and thoughts and if anybody decides to stay in default mode(atheism), it's their choice.
And moreover God gave us free-will, and I can't be openly against anybody that flaunts his/her Free-will by
Becoming an atheist/agnostic.

Anybody that has common sense and also knowledgeable in science, who has ever seen intelligent atheists debate, will not deny being agnostic for at least (5)seconds, irrespective of your religious background.
So I don't blame atheists/agnostics because I can't deny that logically, they have some convincing reasons to be one.

I'm not here to prove the Existence of God, because that is what most atheists wants.
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Because God is not a material being, so it is near impossible to prove him.
Only God can prove himself and not mere humans like us.[/size]
Any attempt by a Christian to prove an Almighty God with our little mortal mind will fail and might also sound Dogmatic, fictional and unconvincing to our Atheistic friends and people with common sense.

The bolded is gold: You agree God is impossible to prove yet somehow you also claim to know [believe] it exists - That's the problem.

Since God is unprovable there is no way for you to know if such entity exists so it's basically a blind belief one you shouldn't expect everyone to conform to - not everyone has what it takes to exercise blind faith on something as critical as God(s)

Agreed ancient men wrote profoundly and passionately though limited by their lack of sophisticated tools and advancement, their works are eloquent and beautiful but naive, it is not wrong to still call it naive.

Nobody have a problem with these ancient works rather the problem arises when people maintain that everything in those works is the truth not minding the ignorance, naivete, fallibility of the humans involved.

So why not wait till God proves himself and stop being confined only to the pages of a book, in that way all would rather KNOW there is one and not BELIEVE - Only a man made God needs man to make itself known to man.

Moreover i do not know if there is pot of green tea in Uranus now. it is just as impossible to prove as God - so i see no reason believing it.

The only garden of Eden existing is in between your lovers thighs lol.

scratch that.

Eden is a sumerian word though for Plain of the Gods [was called that because in all the barren desert land of Sumer, the plains were ever green in all seasons due to perpetual source of the four rivers], was the birth place of humans according to Sumerian legends and in modern world should be in Iraq

dblackninja:
Oh okay take your time bro, so that the story won't suffer because of being apprehensive of time. But don't do what mosquito/musketoo did oooh.

I wont.. I go finish my story

He did the exact opposite of what a human with basic compassion and love should or will do.

In my opinion: if i was in that shoe, i'd stick with my wife, still love and cherish her like she should be.

Being a virgin does not make someone more valuable than others neither does getting raped diminish a girl's worth.

She's the victim here and punishing a victim for a crime meted on her is even just as wicked as the act.

dblackninja:
Seems too soon is now becoming toooooo soon

So many things taking my time brother but i'm sure i'll find time to deliver more

plaetton:
I really do think you may have a learning disability, as someone hinted in the past.

If you can believe and swallow the propaganda against North Korea, and then use it as a sweeping blanket for atheism, then you must be dafter than previously imagined.

I actually feel quite stupid being caught up in this juvenile mesh with you.

Lesson learned.

Collective projection is a result of stereotyping, stereotyping is because of heuristic shortcut to thinking.

A heuristic shortcut to thinking is a result of cognitive laziness. . . Always make your point and ignore infantile to and fro afterwards boss..

KingEbukasBlog:
God is the lawgiver and at that time , He permitted it . Simple

And this means Incest was right because God permitted it and then became wrong when God didnt permit... doesn't this show that from your theology here there is nothing like good or bad only list of actions your own God concept permitted or not

Answer my simple question . Why is consensual sex with a sibling or parent for the sake of pleasure wrong ?

Every atheist will have different opinions based on their own personal philosophy and reason and now to give my own opinion and view.

Incest is wrong to me [Apparently whether a deity agrees or not] it soils the human human gene pool, leads to reproductive anomaly.

secondly; My culture abhors it totally [Igbo culture of African origin] so it is a societal ill going from the factors involved and my view on bad actions is

Actions that increase individual human suffering, are detrimental to societal well being or growth, justice, equality, fairness and freedom.

thirdly - as a matter of personal feelings it is disgusting to me so i could never support it

Inbreeding is a societal ill that retards societal growth or well being so it is wrong to me apparently not to you...

Eheee Laws of Physics: Like terms do not attract, since you are almost certainly 99.9% a genetic copy of your mother and siblings, could they possibly arouse you sexually? have you ever being sexually attracted to your mum or sisters before this one you are asking us ?

And then my last thought: The above is totally my own opinion, i however have no business with what ever you choose to do with anybody in your bedroom.

what ever you make of it now is your problem

VomeSchakleton:
But there is such a thing as dna and some ethnicities share more similarities dna wise. I have always maintained yorubas and igbos are the same people, this isnt the first study that supports that. Phenotypic differences I believe happened recently due to the different weathers in their respective settlements (Adaptation). Mind you I am neither yoruba nor igbo, just my neutral unbiased opinion.

I share you sentiments too, Efiks are the closest Igbo relatives but i also think the inhabitants of the lower Niger, Efiks, Igbos, yorubas even up to the Ashanti's of Ghana share a common ancestry or history.

Too long that it has been so severed

Almost certainly same people distanced by distinct choice of settlement over very long periods of time slowly evolving varying lingual expressions and cultures that must had a common root.

menxer:
You need to move from theory to principle, and that is not done by arguing on here but by deliberate research with an open mind, to accept some truth that may be hard to comprehend.

You said extraterrestrial God, how so correct; good you understand the basic meaning of extraterrestrial.

Let me use an analogy, I will assume you are familiar with a guitar. I will also assume you don't have any eye or ear defect. Now if the string of a guitar is plucked, and it vibrates, can your unaided eye and ear perceive it? At best your eyes would see a blur of movement and your ear a sound.

At a certain frequency of vibration the plucked guitar string becomes invisible to the unaided eyes and the sound, imperceptible to the unaided ear; does that invalidate the physical properties of the string?

In physics, it's an established principle that everything is in constant motion. And the frequency of vibration determines the position of an object (matter) in the dimensions. And the higher the frequency of vibration, the finer the object. Such that even your thoughts have physical properties as it conforms to laws of physics.

Juxtapose this analogy with Gen 6:3, as highlighted.

Still need for elaboration to derive clarity

Scientifically there really isn't such a thing as race, we are all humans, we all came from Africa and share common ancestry, we each more alike than we are different..

ElDaIllest:
please recommend books I should read cos I feel my version of knowledge needs to be updated lol...cos your illustration is baring, I want to upgrade to your level of thought

Everything worth writing is worth reading, there is a slice of sound wisdom in every written word of literature, be it fantasy, conspiracy or myth. there is always a pearl among the stones worth knowing.

I hold a scientific view of the world but also holds immense respect for every work that blares testimony to human audacity at questioning nature.

But science is a humbling and awe inspiring discipline, not only does it reveal the facts of nature through study eaten with consistent logic but it opens a door way to a profound reverence and awe striking respect for the natural world.

I recommend you read everything you can but always have the time for your own personal thoughts and silent musing.

Touchnot01:
But they blame the woes of Nigeria on religion, even the woes of the world. In short, you people blame anything on religion. It does not take much to know that this is what atheism stands for.

Nope it's a reverse argument just like the situation buhari and APC are in right now; Being caught in the jail of their own words.

That is the argument, once religiosity claims to be 'center of human morality and ethics' people tend to give examples with overly religious countries like Nigeria to show this isn't always true.

Touchnot01:
I think when you become an atheist, you will be immune from problems. When we become atheists, things will get better. When Nigeria becomes an atheist country, we will progress.
Lol! At least this is what atheists on nairaland want us to believe.

Then both you and those atheist need serious help as soon as possible..

it's either you misconceived or misrepresented their points to score cheap points

or

they are starkly deluded.

UyiIredia:
The presence of evil in the world does nothing to negate the existence of God. It does however contradict the notion of God being all-good.

Exactly, it is an argument of definition ... it addresses the concept of God defined as Omnibenevolent, Omniscient and omnipotent.

The existence of a God with that definition who is presiding over the cosmos is variance with evil.

It is a paradox and such a God [of the above definition] cannot exist in such theater..

In order to severe this logical murder of an all good Deity presiding over an imperfect nature, Deism distanced 'God' from interfering with the cosmos.

But even in that, it still didn't maintain an all good tilt it rather makes the Deistic idea 'indifferent' which is neither on the good tilt or bad.

But if nature is directly a design of the deistic God then glitches of nature are it's flaws therefore makes it impotent in designing a perfect cosmos.

ElDaIllest:
lol I've thought of this thing over and over since science and religion still does not have answers it has made we philosophers sit on the fence.... Wish you well in your quest for the truth cos I know that's what you seek.... I'll be observing from my own end anyways

Yes thats the truth, nobody knows.. There is no shame in ignorance, the problem is when irrational thoughts and attendant behaviours fill the gap left by ignorance.

Philosophy, science and religion are triplets of human enquiry and audacious nature.

Let me represent the three methods with the analogy of the black cat..

- Natural questions is like a black cat.

..Philosophy is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat imagining where it might be.[it could be anywhere]

… Science is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat using a torch light [empiricism and mathematics and logic]

… religion (theology) is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat and shouting "i found it!!!" but yet can't provide it.

ElDaIllest:
lol thanks Boss.... Well I don't want to say anything that'll deter me from winning the Mr NL title cos right now I'm under the radar... But the truth might prevail anyway....Don't you think there's an energy or force that gave birth to life on earth...if it has yet been discovered I dunno the mayans told us it was the sun they were close but not close enough,there are other stars in the solar system but the planets that revolve around them no sign of life has been seen yet,I've read about biogenesis but that's bullcrap cos I dunno if anyone has replicated it in the lab yet.....life didn't just start as a unicellular bacteria that started revolving getting energy from the sun,what ever started life and in what ever phenomenon it happened I think such organism or being should be worth worthy of my worship

Of course i think there is an energy or force that gave birth to everything, but what is it?

it may be hydrogen
dark matter
quantum fluctuation
anti matter/matter reaction

call it God that is ok, Call it energy still ok..


But tell me it is a conscious humanoid who likes smell of burnt flesh, loves jews or muhammed, gets jealous and a petty insecurity, playing bet with humans.

that's a bit more than any rational mind can or will swallow.

You guys shouldn't take this seriously, it is more fun when there are conflicting ideas.

if everyone were to be atheist and conform to a single idea, it would be completely boring and out of balance.

I like it when people with conflicting ideas challenge me to a squabble, how else do you expect you to bring out your points more?

I'm from the Igbo tribe and an atheist, and i can marry from any tribe, religion or even country.

I have a very close female muslim friend from the north and i know marrying such a person is not misplaced or out of order

ElDaIllest:
God exists but I think he's kinda overestimated.... No offense, and I think people have lost track of what he is,like or how to communicate him

Let's yank it a bit; How do you know whether a God exists or not?

- secondly, how do you think it should be only one God and not a whole race of such supreme entities or do you think 1 makes less of an assumption than a billion?

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Hhhmmm contesting for Mr Nairaland, i might vote for you after all boss