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Ausrichie:
Illogical conclusion.

Every existence came to be by God's word, so it's logical, that's why someone can say in the name of Jesus, receive your healing and it would be done...

We potray the attributes of God, as seen, when he created light and it's phenomena with his word.. i.e "and God said, Let there be light, and there was light"... What you people call the big bang

Yksulaimon02:
Yes
but that doesn't mean the whole big bang and evolution is wrong.
It just meant God control the whole process to perfection

Except the evolution of the physical appearance of man

Yksulaimon02:
Yes
but that doesn't mean the whole big bang and evolution is wrong.
It just meant God control the whole process to perfection

I accept, once we agree about God

Fucsheetup:
Why?

This is because science corroborates everything the Bible specifically talked of even before the Advent of space exploration and it's ilks

Ausrichie:
What the hell do you mean by complete?

Jesus answered, "man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God"

This is all.

Macsjebs:
Which of the Bibles are you referring to as complete, have you compared Catholic and Pentecostal Bible which omitted Maccabees and some other scriptures...controversies even surrounds some passages n chapters

***I am also a Christian too***

Lol... Everything I need to survive as a being is in the Bible. Principles that every human being applies on earth.... I don't need the book if Maccabees or writings of Nehemiah....

Ausrichie:
Have you read Rousseau's documents on social contracts. Man made social contracts to protect himself thus giving birth to good and evil and thus giving birth to morality. Read up on feral children like the wild boy of aveyron. The boy had no knowledge of morality, society or good and evil. (a French doctor Monsieur Itard helped him develop these though it didn't even go far) children are born with an empty mind, it is the parents and society's duty to install morals in the child. Besides if we were to go by the Bible's definition of morality we would have still been slaves, there would have been religious intolerance (thank Locke for eradicating that), there would have still been so called holy wars.

You haven't heard of the Lord Jesus Christ. Seek him for clearer understanding of what God wants from man... Not some empty written words by profane men who can't help themselves

Fucsheetup:
What is your bane exactly?
You do not understand how the universe came to be by a Big Bang or you do not believe whoever preconceived, designed and created our universe did it by an explosion?

Whatever creationist ideas you have are your business, hypothetically since you cannot comprehend the Big Bang being a random act, why can’t you just believe that it was not random but a way for the ‘creator’ to create your universe? Science is based on FACTS, and facts are there is no proof that the universe was created by any being. That is why science calls it ‘RANDOM’. Of course there are creationists in science who ‘believe’ the universe must have been brought about by something but science cannot tell you what it does not know, it tells what it does know. They didn’t just come with the Big Bang, a whole lot of physics and maths accompany what you think is just an explosion, a whole lot of calculations, generations of it. I’m sorry to say you are not qualified to speak on it, because you can not even understand it. How can you refute something you don’t understand in the first place?

The Big Bang hypotheses is widely accepted by Astro scientists far more knowledgeable than yourself for a reason, the scientists that dispute it, do so also for a reason. You dispute it because “ITS DOESN’T MAKE SENSE” while not giving a reason. How do you believe the universe was “created”? Mention me when you have something concrete to say.


By the way, the chemicals in your brain are responsible for perceived concepts of morality, conscience, emotions. I wouldn’t make too much of those terms if I were you.

We want you to believe along with other scientists that the big bang was formed by God.

Scientists states that universe is about 14 billion years i.e when the big bang event occured and then expansion continued from there... We ain't arguing, our argument is that God is the centre of everything

Ausrichie:
Of course as usual. Chai.

Shows us any book more complete than the Bible

Ausrichie:
Rubbish. So who should we believe you, the Greeks, the Romans, the Yorubas, the Igbos, the Chinese who? Stop thinking from your own perspective only look at others too.

My belief comes from the Bible which is the word of God

zedegit:
Oh! You are aware of Access Bank fraudulent activities?

Yeah... They deducted up to 300 from my account, I was almost embarrassed at the atm

LINTUNE:
.. smh..go make ur research right and stop arguing blindly..

Lol... So God made man evolve from hominids(the great apes)... Lol

I rather believe God

zedegit:
You are entitled to monthly pay if you are on full time employment.

It depends on your organization though.
That's why you should be careful, do your due research before taking appointment.


In another news, Access Bank are debiting twice! Are they hungry?

Lol.... Hope you know some organizations sacked some staffs after March salary payment, coz they've estimate there would be no inflow of money for April and May?

I've stopped putting money in my access account

zedegit:
You are entitled to monthly pay if you are on full time employment.

It depends on your organization though.

Lol... It depends on organizations... Not all schools can pay when there's no income... Infact most teachers should forget April and May salary, even a good and right conscience teacher shouldn't be asking for salaries when they didn't work in some schools

LINTUNE:
carbon dating technique's was used in determining this, with fossils found by archeologist...

Lol... The radioactive carbon dating lied.

Scientists said about that time itself water was everywhere, so how did the man survive living in water??

Man is about 6000 years old.

zedegit:
Are they not paying you monthly salary?

Pay when you do no work?? How??

AkpaMgbor:
Man is the pinnacle of 'known' creation and what a wonder man is! A being that can feel emotions, a being that can think of the welfare of other beings he shares the world with, a being that harnessed his world for food, medicine, science, sports, etc...a being that is religious...a being that has dared to go beyond his own world...look at the human anatomy inside out...and some people want to give the accolade to a random one in a billion billion billion explosion that has no thought or reason behind it..

Lol... You know the devil always like to thwart and deceive people away from God, that's why clowns who haven't even lived up to 40 years on Earth or haven't seen the mysteries in oceans and beyond in Nairaland, will start typing there's no God and they are atheists ...

Like St Paul said, "people who reverence the creature more than the creator".. lol.. the Bible already knew ahead sef

Just once wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is an attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists.

1. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few

a. the Earth......its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

b. Water..... Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:
Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6


2. The universe had a start - what caused it

Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."

Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."

The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.


3. The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?

Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.

Did God design the laws of the universe - Photo of mathematical equations on a blackboard to illustrate the mathematical consistency of natural laws.How is it that we can identify laws of nature that never change? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?

"The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."

Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle.


4. The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior

All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose.

Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do.

The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!

Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.

Why is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.

Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.


5. Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us

Why Jesus? Look throughout the major world religions and you'll find that Buddha, Muhammad, Confucius and Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them ever claimed to be equal to God. Surprisingly, Jesus did. That is what sets Jesus apart from all the others. He said God exists and you're looking at him. Though he talked about his Father in heaven, it was not from the position of separation, but of very close union, unique to all humankind. Jesus said that anyone who had seen Him had seen the Father, anyone who believed in him, believed in the Father.

He said, "I am the light of the world, he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." He claimed attributes belonging only to God: to be able to forgive people of their sin, free them from habits of sin, give people a more abundant life and give them eternal life in heaven.

Unlike other teachers who focused people on their words, Jesus pointed people to himself. He did not say, "follow my words and you will find truth." He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."

Jesus died in our place so we could be forgiven. Of all the religions known to humanity, only through Jesus will you see God reaching toward humanity, providing a way for us to have a relationship with him. Jesus proves a divine heart of love, meeting our needs, drawing us to himself. Because of Jesus' death and resurrection, he offers us a new life today. We can be forgiven, fully accepted by God and genuinely loved by God. He says, "I have loved you with an everlasting love, therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you." This is God, in action

By Marilyn Adamson

https://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

AkpaMgbor:
Their ego is so laughable if it wasn't sad and destructive on its own..they reference Einstein in science discussions when not even he dared to think that there was no intelligence behind the universe..na these new wannabe atheist(not scientists o) strut about with those theories...it gives them a sense of increased Intelligence Quotient.

Lmao ..

AkpaMgbor:
The irony is, there's no way you will delve deeper into science and not disbelieve the big bang theory..the more you penetrate into the sciences, the more you will see the intricacies, the fine tuning and wonder that is the universe..the more you will realise that there's a thought/reason behind it all..

I'm telling. The being called "Human" is enough to convince any right thinking individual

AkpaMgbor:
Or imagine those engineering tools computing themselves without human instructions..even if it can do so later via artificial intelligence, it is human that originally designed them to do so..there has to be a designer in the beginning..there's artificial intelligence in modern technology nowadays...if an artificial intelligence came from a designer..then human/natural intelligence must also come from a designer..

Those scientists know the truth. But ego won't make them accept it

Even atheists, their only topic is always, "is there God" ... God wants them to get the answers by themselves and be converted... Lol

AkpaMgbor:
And their hypothesis is that a random thoughtless, consciousless, inanimate explosion formed the universe and all that lives in it? Including animate and living beings...beings that have morals, emotions, intelligence and consciences?? That is their hypothesis? What a balooney! This universe and all that's in it was designed and created..none life CANNOT give life..something that has no conscience cannot give conscience. Something that can't think(as in explosion) CANNOT then create what can think on its own...something that has NO morality CANNOT give morality...the universe and man was preconceived, designed and created..by who is a question you can answer for yourself (and is another subject)....

Lol ..I love this.

Those scientists keep deceiving themselves

Matthewdan:
and some one is still comforting me that God's time is the best!

Yes it is. Adam and Eve couldn't wait for God's time and look where humanity is today

Yksulaimon02:
Do you know that all these could happen if God is overseeing it all.He is after all the greatest Scientist ever,we are just taking a tiny little amount out of his eternal scientific wisdom

You are right, and there lies our point of argument... "GOD created all things"

ume1000:
can darkness exist without light

Yep. According to God's word, there was darkness before Light.

Fucsheetup:
Tell us what happened then, some people have tried to make sense of it and you reject their hypothesis. What is your hypothesis? How did the universe come to be? You can’t just say something is wrong without inference from your own experiments, because this topic defies human logic and requires actual physics. Not your layman logic. That cannot be it therefore it is not it. You don’t even have a theory that can disproved or proved. Just belief, like the religious.

Aunty, I believe you are a science student...you yourself reason along his line of thought... Look at our solar system, why is it so perfect?? How can an explosion place all the planets (especially Earth) so perfectly in the solar system??

A design engineer for example used softwares that are based on FEM or FEA (mathematical laws and principle) to design models etc, the designs doesn't just happen in one single explosion na... I use AutoCAD, Matlab and ANSYS sometimes to design, just imagine if they were to explode while I'm coding or modelling

LINTUNE:
the first man on earth existed 25m years ago

Another lie. No proof of this

Ghostrye:
Come on man, stop putting your ignorance up for all to see like show and tell.

See what the book of Genesis tells us...

Genesis 1:1-5
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and DARKNESS was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the WATERS.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

How then am I ignorant??

Fucsheetup:
By the way, where is the proof?

The Bible tells me there's God and he created all things. And there's proof of that... How can you believe that the universe just came about on its own... Do you know how many mathematical laws the universe obeys, and yet doesn't change??

Please...I don't want to go into details.

Let me just leave you with this thought, ponder on it then come to your conclusion

1. Is the humn brain no enough to convince you that there's a being that created and designed all things??

Amen.

Many more miraculous testimonies on the way.

I miss church and pastor's prayers...

God please remove this coronavirus from the world

1. Life na per head. All man for himself

2. Jesus is the only way to heaven

3. No one really cares about you except immediate family members

4. Someone must talk about you, either good or bad

Will the governor's salary be cut, seeing he's also a cilvil servant??