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Hmmm... Henry was just a league striker like Giggs and Messi

Lol...

Lol... This guy... Nairaland don miss you... I believe the lockdown has made you a better person

Give the loot to Bill gates to produce his ID2020 microchips to vaccinate everyone na ..

On a more serious note, the funds should be given as palliatives etc, to help the common men that really need it, not for bBuhari people to loot as usual

No one think bill gates is the Antichrist. We are just asking him why he wants to digitally mark is with his vaccination chips... That's all...

Understand that Satan is already an agent of perdition i.e he's already condemned, infact since the beginning of the world.

Dust there means crawling in the dust, not literally eating dust, you should know that, stop being mischievous

This is a question I ask especially in this pandemic crisis around the world today

Now government of the world has issued that no churches would be opened, and all Christians including G.Os have shut down the activities of God.

Pertinent Questions

1. Will the early apostles of God have closed down the activities of God like this? Let's see what the apostles had to say;

Acts 5:27-29 "And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men".

Remember what Like the doctor said,:
Acts 14:22: Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Now we know these are the responses that led to the tribulation and trials of the early apostles, can today Christians pass through tribulation


2. Is it not during times like these that the power of God is supposed to be showcased. How can Satan hold down the church like this through fear of death and everyone is running? Honestly how can sinners see our faith and turn to God. Both the righteous and sinners are both running away from death, rather than face tribulation with great faith like the apostles of old, and make testimony like St Paul: Romans 8:35-39

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord

Probably it's better the rapture comes before tribulation because I don't think today Christians can stand any tribulation. However we know that it's with much tribulation, that one can enter God's kingdom. Covid-19 is one of such, and y'all are running....

This lockdown has taught me the importance of the gathering of the brethren to pray together and work together to acheive God's purposes for humanity .

This lockdown has taught me the importance of the church, infact I won't be missing church after this lockdown elapses

This lockdown has also taught me to be self sufficient in prayers and study, and understanding.

This lockdown has also taught me about the importance of men of God's prayer for believers

HabuD:
This corona virus thing may not be the second coming of Christ but it might be the perfect set up for the antichrist to be revealed and an indication that the rapture is about to take place. The antichrist will come at a time when there is world chaos and he will proffer solutions to the chaos and to achieve this, he has to be set up as a world leader. He will be given authority to rule. Now note the following:
1) First, the church must be raptured before the antichrist is revealed. He is already probably in the world right now but has not yet been revealed. It is only the power of the church that holds him back from fully manifesting himself.
2) Second, for the antichrist to be fully manifest, there must be some sort of world chaos just as we see happening right now. If anyone ever told you several years ago that every part of the world will experience chaos at the same time, no one would have believed you. But it is happening right before our very eyes as was prophesied in the bible. So this gives us an idea that the time for the antichrist to finally reveal himself is closer than ever.
3) Following from the above, it means that the rapture of the church is closer, because the antichrist will only reveal himself after the church must have been taken away.
4) After the rapture would have taken place, the antichrist will have only 7 years to rule. The first 3.5 years of his rule, he will bring peace to the world. He won’t be as devilish as many expect him to be. His peaceful moves will win him the heart of many, especially when he strikes a deal with Israel to secure peace with their hostile Arab neighbours, something that had never been achieved before. There will be nothing like mark of the beast at this first 3.5 years. The first 3.5 years will be one of peace.
5) Now when his first 3.5 years are over, he will destroy the covenant he had made with Israel and set up himself as god in their temple. He will now demand to be worshipped. This is where the mark of the beast will be created. This second 3.5 years is when the great tribulation begins, where anyone who refuses to take his mark will be killed. Infact Jesus said that such tribulation will be the worst the world has ever seen, and if God had not shortened the time of the tribulation, then most persons would never be saved.
So a rough timeline is this:
 Chaotic world event occurs and then rapture of the church takes place OR
 Rapture of the church takes place and then chaotic world event occurs
 Then antichrist is fully revealed
 His first 3.5 years, one of peace and solidifying himself as false messiah of the world
 His final 3.5 years: one of great trouble (great tribulation), especially for Israel and those who missed the rapture but who who still trust in Jesus and refuse to receive the mark of the beast nor worship him
 After the final 3.5 years, the second coming of Jesus (this time as the long awaited messiah which the Jews had waited for. When he came 2,000 years ago, this same Jews did not receive him as messiah because they had expected the messiah to come with so much power and authority and not as a mere man which Jesus did) with the saints from heaven to defeat the antichrist and false prophet takes place. This time, Jesus comes with great power and glory (compared to his first coming as a man born in a manger), that the Jews who rejected him before will mourn so greatly in repentance at not accepting him before. The antichrist and his prophet are both thrown into the lake of fire while Satan is also bound in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years
 Jesus and the saints will now reign on earth for 1,000 years from Jerusalem. Other countries of the world will still exist with their leaders like they are today.
 When 1,000 years are over, satan will be released from the bottomless pit and he will go out to once again deceive the nations of the world (like he is doing today) and incite them against Jesus and his saints at Jerusalem.
 The countries of the world and their leaders (presidents, kings, etc) will now brace up for a fight against Jesus and the saints, and this final battle will take place at Armageddon. The kings and leaders and their armies will be so roundly defeated that bible says it will takes months for their bodies to be cleared up.
 Finally. New heaven and new earth will be unveiled from heaven. Jesus and his saints will rule forever.

Show us where in the Bible it is said that the rapture of church occurs before the tribulation.

Also the Bible has specifically said, "Antichrist will make war with the saints, and overcome them", now who are the saints?

Please does anyone know where this doctrine came from because I think it has deceived many people.

The Bible right from Daniel to Jesus to Peter, Paul and the Revelation has clearly stated that the saints (children of God) will be around, infact the great tribulation is because of the saints of God as they won't want to allow Satan rule the Earth, hence, the tribulation and the mark of Satan to show those that would be in Satan's side. No mark for you, the great tribulation.

I think many people are confusing God's wrath as against Satan's wrath.

The reason for the rapture is to remove the saints from the Earth before God pours out the wrath as seen in Revelations.

However the hope Jesus gave us is that the wrath of Satan (great tribulation) would be shortened, otherwise no one would be saved.

So please can anyone help me out here, as where the rapture happens before the Antichrist Advent.

Thanks

I will go for the Argentine version of Messi

Many people do not understand that the reason for the rapture is to remove the saints before God pours out his wrath on the Antichrist and the people who would have been deceived to collect the mark of the beast....

Tha Antichrist will be against the saints, because they are the ones who would be rejecting and preaching to people not to receive the mark, and see through the lies of the false prophet. That's why no one would be able to buy or sell without collecting the mark. Many saints will be killed die to the faith in the Lord Jesus Christ... See what the book of Revelation said;

Revelation 7:13-14 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 6:9-11 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

That why the Lord Jesus said, he that endure to the end shall be saved (Matt 24:13)

Now see from the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ;

Matthew 24:21-25 "

For then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold, I have told you before"

Please let's follow what the Bible said

Chosen1984:
My Brother, There is a Difference between Tribulations, Persecutions and The Great Tribulation!

Tribulations, Persecutions etc are what we are passing through right now..

The Great Tribulation is the 7year Period allotted to the antichrist to perform his Enterprise.

The Bride of Christ , the Saints will be taken away ( The Rapture) before this takes effect.

The Rapture of the Saints is what is Hindering the antichrist from his alloted time.

The Great Tribulation is that time when you will not be allowed to buy or sell except you have the Mark of the Beast on your Right hand or your Fore head.

The Great Tribulation will witness GOD'S Wrath on those left behind!

GOD has always taken his people away before His Wrath!

In Conclusion, The Rapture of the Saint will taken place before the Wrath comes on Earth

This is a wrong teaching bro... The Bible specifically states that the saints will be around when the Antichrist is around.

There is no Bible verse to support your theory... Look at what the prophet Daniel said:

Daniel 7:20-22 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Daniel 12:1-3 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

ibabz:
Set awon Oyakinome them. Do you know how much these world billionaires have lost since this pandemic broke out? Have you ever asked why Bill Gate is interested in children with polio? Pls you don't need to believe everything your pastor says.

Lol... Interest with children... Maybe that's why he didn't tell us what he was doing at Jeffery Epstein island ... You've heard of Jeffery Epstein right??

Many bill gates advocates here.

For someone like bill gates to have connections with a Satanist like Maria Abramovich and Jeffery Epstein, then it more than meets the eye

Bill Gates is known for his depopulation agenda through his satanic study of eugenics, and his thought of blackening the Sun... Lol

ID2020 and event 201 won't work yet

paxonel:
understand how people view the world as that time Jesus was on earth.

1. The fastest means of transportation back then was horse, donkey or camel : meaning, there was a certain limited distance one could cover
2. Because men could not travel far, they tend to believe that the world ends at their immediate environment they can see. That means, for instance, the Jews living in that area of the ancient Israel in those days will never in their wildest imagination believe that continents like Africa, Asia, America, Australia, etc exist because there was no possible means they could travel far.

So when Jesus mentioned the world in that scripture he was referring to the standpoint of the coverage of their view based on the distance men could travel, he was not referring to the world in total.

To that note : Jesus and his disciples travelled from one city to another preaching the gospel of the kingdom, they started from Galilee preaching and were traveling to Jerusalem by foot, it was like traveling from Ibadan to Lagos by foot(based on the map).
That distance was enough for Jesus to say the gospel of the kingdom must be preached to all the earth because to them, that distance was all the earth.

After the gospel of the kingdom was preached by Jesus and his disciples who covered that little distance referred to as all the earth, Jesus was crucified at Jerusalem, that crucifixion was the end.
That crucifixion was what Jesus meant by saying then shall the end come.

Where do you people get all these fallacious teachings from??

tonididdy:
Am very sure e nor package go see the parents.
He was blinded by love and fooled by reality.

I dey tell you...

The Bible talked about it in the book of job, buh some Nairaland scientists said it's a lie

tonididdy:
For your qualification and being a factory supervisor (am thinking a pure water company sef) , I wouldn't allow you come close to my daughter who spent 8years in 2 expensive universities.
I would shoot you with a gun unless you walk into my home looking like MONEY.
Before the papa ask you those questions, e don already use eye weigh you say no level.
Op double your husto

Lol... Gun ke

The guy go con tuck in one yeye shirt with sandals

Imustsurvive:
crap! father and daughter offering you Bobo juice, she's part of it, don't think her father did that without her consent , the invitation is just to see you as to recognize you if you go funny, that girl is getting married this year , same girl has brought other guys and they are weighing their options

my own told me it was arranged marriage by her papa to a family friend , I later got to know it was all lies.

OP, you were expecting her to quit her job in VI and move from Lekki to Oshogbo? when sharp guys dey Lagos close marking her, ordering her pizza online and holiday Dubai. OP, you get international passport?

Lol... See the OP

AmazingELixir:
She attended Babcock for her first degree and Convenant for her masters degree both private universities with heavy tuition fees and you pass through Osun state polytechnic, a state school for that matter ...you no even fear to carry yaself to the geh papa hous ....you get luck the man no even shoot you..

To compound issue I bet your job no fit pay pass N60k, Mr man you better go find Basira near una village there marry

Lol... No joy ... Real truth

Video calling for the arrest of Bill gates in Texas now
https://twitter.com/i/status/1256613458705031180

From one northerner to another .....

In Lechero of prison break voice, talking to Tbag;
"From one thief to another"

Okada branch me....

How IUO students want take survive, how many banks come remain..

Well Zenith and Sterling still remain

No wonder the bank has been deducting people's money... Well I have transferred my savings to GTB and Ecobank(Another crazy bank) anyways...

You better come back to the fold, and stop deceiving yourself....

Jesus still loves

What of Ibafo or Mowe to Ikeja Secretariat?

Princewell2012:
Yes. There is an adage in our place which says
When you want to catch a hen you first of all catch her chicks.
They are just beating around the bush.
The church is their target, take it from me.

But God will surely deliver his children.

Amen

Here are the only players to have won the too scorer awards in 3 or more different leagues, with number of goals scored against matches played

1. Ruud Van Nistelrooy

Ruud became popular at Manchester United as he was the top 9 at that period after the sale of Dwight Yorke.

a. Eredivisie top scorer (2ce)
1998-1999 (30 gls-); 1999-2000(29 goals)

b. EPL top scorer
2002-2003 (25 gls in 34 apps)

c. Laliga pichichi top scorer
2006-2007 (25 goals in 37 games)

d. UCL top scorer (3ce)
2001–02 (10 gls), 2002–03 (12 gls), 2004–05(8gls)


2. Cristiano Ronaldo

a. EPL top scorer
2007-2008 (31 gls in 34 games)

b. Laliga pichichi top scorer
2010-11(41 gls, 34apps); 2013-14 (31 gls, 30apps) and 2014-15 (48 gls, 35apps)

c. UCL top scorer (7 times)
Actually cr7 has won this a record 7 times; 1 with man utd and 6 with Real Madrid


3. Luiz Suarez

a. Eredivisie top scorer
2009-10 ( 35 goals)

b. EPL top scorer
2013-14 (31 gls 33 apps)

c. Laliga golden boot (Pichichi)
2014-15 (40 gls, 35apps)


4. Romario

Second player in history to score 1000 thousand goals after the GOAT Pele, probably one of the best forwards of all time

a. Eredivisie top scorer (3ce)
1988-89 (19); 1989-90 (23); 1990-91(25)

b. Laliga pichichi top scorer
1993-94 (30 gls-, 33apps)

c. UCL top scorer
1989–90 (6 gls)


5. Marco Van Basten

a. Eredivisie top scorer (4 times)
1983-84 (28); 1984-85 (22gls); 1985-86 (37gls); 1986-87 (31gls)

b. SerieA top scorer (2ce)
1989-90 (19 gls); 1991-92 (25gls)

c. UCL top scorer
1988-89 (10 gls)

Chrisbella24:
Well, if you say so...

It's been long I entered the yellow danfo.

Where I stay, is opposite the Fadeyi BRT stand.

200 to and fro to any where I'm going.

I spend #1000 on transport weekly.

Whoa!!! That's great... But don't you think the fare from Fadeyi would be increased now?? Probably double??

Mhen na una enjoy brt o

On this day, In 2012, Real Madrid won their 32nd La Liga title under Jose Mourinho with a goal difference of 89.

Cristiano Ronaldo finished as the top scorer with 46 goals, While Mesut Ozil finished with most assists at 19.

Chrisbella24:
250-300.
Ikorodu might be 500

Lol.... I prefer to enter commercial buses then coz those ones won't abide by the safety guidelines and hence won't increase transport fare..

How much be salary wey person go dey pay #1000 to and fro... Lol...