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MeandSum: Please define God then. Again "God has appeared in his mercy, and has revealed himself to people in his mercy". That's the issue... he always seem to appear to other people. not to you.

mazaje: There is evidence of man visiting the moon,provide one single evidence of clear cut divinne healing like god healing an amputee or healing a very popular blind person. . .All the nonsense of god healed my cancer is nonsense because some cancers go into remission on their own. . .The nonsense we see like "A crippled was able to walk after many years" "or a deaf man was able to see" in crusades are all planned and scripted. . .Real miracles like god healing real blind people or amputees never happen. . .

mazaje: Here is the problem with you, you always come here beating your chest but when shown how silly your assertions are you beging to cry like a puppy. . .In the bible Jesus healed even unbelievers. . .And the bible promised those that believe in him to do more wonders than he was written to have done. . .I know bible believing christians that have faith that god will heal them and it never worked, it will never work, i have a few bible believing friends that are amputees can you pray for them and ask god to restore their amputated limbs?. . .These guys truly believe. . .I am puting it to you that no matter how you believe and pray their amputated limbs will never be restored through prayers, you KNOW that VERY VERY well. . .
Why do you always hide under the pretext of man being a sinner to justify all your ignorance, prejudice, and rationalize all your wrongly held beliefs?. . .We clearly see through this nonsense game of yours. . .Sin as a concept is a one size fits all idea that can be conveniently corrupted as necessary, and also be defined as something personally humbling, if that is all you need. It excuses frightening kids and works really good as a hammer to hold over anyone else who dares cross your path. Everything you through the sin card at people expecting them to accept that they are naturally corupt and evil. . .The sin concept is a good concept to put people in line, that is why you guys love it so much and use it all the time to justify your delusions. . .Christianity wouldn't be able to exist as invented without sin. It had to be introduced early in the story, after implying that perfection would have been possible if only even hadn't acted so impulsively. . .Saddling everyone from birth with the notion that they are the lowest form of life available because they do bad things with every breath is no way to raise a child or populate a society.

MeandSum: Very very convenient. Why can't you superimpose your faith on the amputee's faith and heel him? I thought with faith, you can move mountains. So, if you can move inanimate things, moving "faithlessness" out of that amputee should be a cake walk for god.

After all, god "commanded" the sun to stand still until all his battles were won (Joshua 10)...LOL

BTW, have you ever wonder why churches and prayer houses still use thunder catcher? talk about total faithlessness in god

mazaje: How do you know that he will not believe after he sees?. . .Seeing is believing no?. . .Even the bible talks about signs that will follow the believers, it talks about believers performing wonders so that the unbelievers will see and believe. . . .Since your god's messengers have completely failed why not just heal an amputee so that he will see and believe. . .After all you guys always claim that your god is still in the divine healing business, curing cancers, AIDS, malaria, TB, healing the blind, raising people from the dead etc. ..But when asked for clear cut miracles like healing of amputees you always come up short. . .This only shows that all miracle claims are BOGUS. . .Any god that can heal the blind and restore their sight should be able to restore the amputated limbs of humans. . .Well we know that the people were never blind in the first place, pastors just pick people to act etc. . . .But they can't pick on amputees because they know they can use them to decieve people. . .All cases of divine healing are false. . .

Kay 17: @joshthefirst

"How shalt not kill" is an absolute rule which bars even self defence ( a legitimate self preservation), the draftsman lacked the foresight to exempt the necessary/lawful killings.

I can tell you for sure, no such commandment is written in my heart.

Kay 17: ^^
So before time, right?!

texanomaly: awwww...thanks Joshie

texanomaly: I see you Josh...
happy new year.

Kay 17: ^^^
I have explained that numerous times, and even in my last post.

Kay 17: I cringe whenever I "hear" first cause.

The problems thereof, which you don't seem to see: first cause reveals a linear time, without with the idea of first cause falls apart. Which now begs the question when was time caused?

Fulaman198: And yet there are several killings every day, there were killings in our holy books... the Qur'an and Bible, and if you are Jewish the Torah as well.

Fulaman198: You do realise the implications of a woman being violated right? If a woman was a virgin, she would no longer be a virgin. Women should not be penalised for the crime a man commits.

Kay 17: Whoever drafted the 10 commandments, did not go to law school.

ifeness: how? He can speak to me buy healing amputees

Fulaman198: I hate how my smartphone outputs so many typos. As a man, what makes you think you have the right to say what women do with their body? Do women tell you what to do with your body?

Yes, it is a selfish world, but your statement is equally selfish. You are implying that only your way is the correct way that women should be doing things. Didn't God give people the free will to choose?

mazaje: It tells me that they people living at that time were capable of acheiving great feats assuming the story was true. . .The pyramid of giza has always been among the 7 wonders of the world, It is the oldest of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, and the only one to remain largely intact, it is thousands of years old. . .Mordern scientist still marvel on how it was constructed. . .

mazaje: Really?. . .Is there a shortage of bones and flesh?. . .

Logicboy03:
Well, you can praise god all you want.......even when your sibling dies in a car crash and you survive. Praise god that your sibling died and not you.

rationalmind: Lol, some will take butthurt into the new year.
To my atheist brothers n sisters, happy new year in advance. May the spirit of the flying spaghetti monster see us through the new year
To christians (most esp Josh), sorry for all the bashing and the insults this year. Wishing you a happy and prosperous new year in advance.
And to the pagans, what more can I say, may the Gods grant you a fruitful new year.

mazaje: Brother learn to read before shooting blanks. . .I never used the word stone age man in this thread, you can re-read all of my posts here on the thread. . .

Logicboy03: Dont mind josh.....na butthurt dey worry am

Logicboy03: To luck? To evolution for granting me heakthy genes from healthy parents? To my parents for caring for me? To charles darwin, richard dawkins and my alma matter for educating me?

See how life makes sense without God?

Reyginus: Happy new year guys. Guys quarelling already.
This section eh!

Fulaman198: It truly sadly is a male dominated world. So because a woman is wronged, she should pay for a mans sins? Does that make sense? A man should be the one paying for his own sins. I reiterate my statement, if a woman is improperly violated, she has every right to do what she wants with her body. It is not the deception l decision of selfish lustful men to carry out.

mazaje: Brother pls stop allowing Joshthefirst to be peddling lies. . .The Noah's flood story remains a myth. . .It never happened, there is no scientific evidence for it and there is also no historical evidence for it. . .There is no evidence to show that the planet was destroyed completely by a flood about 6000 years ago. . .The pyramids of Giza which you alluded to where actually built around that time. . .People were living and writing their histories in places like China, Egypt, India and the Americas about 6000 years ago with out any interuption so the Noah's flood is just a plaigiarized myth from the epic of gilgamesh, that is where the Jews plaigiaried the story from. . .Christians now adays are claiming that it was a local flood because it is embarassing to claim that the entire planet was wiped out 6000 years ago leaving a drunkard and his family behind. . .

Logicboy03: I just stated why I am thankful? Did you read the op? Or some butthurt is driving you? Let go of pain this new year ooo!!

And silly enough, you assume that one must give thanks to something. If I say that I am lucky, must I praise gawD?

ifeness: Why cant yahweh explain himself?

rationalmind: You have been confirmed a liar . Let me see you talk about honesty on this forum.

How does the bold in whatever context say that the others were stewpid?

Open a thread and apologise to me for lying, and also remember to ask God for forgiveness.

Joshtheliar

Kay 17: "Who is behind it" one of the most biased questions possible.

Organisms are said to be primed with the instinct to survive, that instinct coupled with the environment (includes predators and landscape) form a mechanism through which the fittest survive.

The fittest organisms beat poorer ones in this grand competition, to battle for scarce resources and reproduce. Every biological advantage possible is used, and mutation provides this ammunition.

Who said anything about chance :/

rationalmind: ^ ^ ^ noted.
Still doesn't however show it couldn't had been written by stone age men. It only demonstrates that, [size=18pt]stone age men can atimes show rare intelligence and profound wisdom far beyond their contemporaries.[/size] Such was the case of Job.

libero00: Bro in christ,(you are a slave for christ aren't you?) saw it somewhere in proverbs that says it is pointless to argue with a fool less you turn like him. At the rate at which you keep arguing with us, you might just turn out to be like us.
And oh I am quite flattered that you replied, you know what they say: silence is the best answer.....

Kay 17: ^^
Since the physical is an inherent manifestation of the transcedental, then the physical is as eternal as the transcedental.

Josh, I don't agree with you. The resulting implication is absurd and ridiculous and an attempt to reconcile stark conflicting substances (physical vs. Transcedence)

Besides what is timeless, spaceless, unbound is negatively defined and we know nothing about such a subject but what its not. Similar to describing a car by what not it is. We actually get nowhere.

The use of "transcendental" is not merely saying "not physical" but a substance antithetical to physical, totally different. So when you said the physical was a manifestation of the transcedental, I was hopelessly shocked.

rationalmind: ^ ^ ^ ^But wait, are you really genuinely foolish?

This has gotten to be the worst post I have ever read on nairaland. I think there should be an opposite thread to the one on greatest posts where stewpid posts are put.

This idiot has been shown countless times stone age men can atimes naturallygenerate some kind of astute reasoning that are beyond their peers.

He foolishly quoted another boring, stupid and thoughtless epistle about noahs ark.

The pyramid of egypt remains a wonder amongst scholars on how such near perfect and mighty structure was built in the 3rd century or thereabout.

Yet, no one attributes the structure to any divine influence. What the hell makes noahs ark different? What makes it different from all the other wonders of the ancient world who no one attributes divinity to?

How stewpid does one have to get to realise this simple and obvious fact that even though there might be remarkable events in the bible, it still doesn't go outside of what stone age men could do or say?

If not that I know better, I would start doubting if at all you have a brain.