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Christianity EtcRe: Will God's Chosen People Do This ? ( Graphic ) by Joshthefirst(m): 8:36pm On Jul 31, 2014
TheBigUrban2: Do you know how many times isreal has broken the peace treaty?


Even look at CNN today, the UN is blaming isreal for killing innocent people....it bombed a UN school building that had nothing to do with hamas or the war. Child killers
there are many perspectives actually. Try to get the full picture first.
Christianity EtcRe: The Making of GRACE CONVENTION 2014 by Joshthefirst(m): 7:55pm On Jul 31, 2014
Been busy. Looking forward to a powerful convention that will change lives and inspire us even more to preach Christ.

We stand as witnesses. Opening the eyes of men to the reality of the gospel.

Bearing witness to the salvation of God and his good news and judgement.
Christianity EtcRe: The Making of GRACE CONVENTION 2014 by Joshthefirst(m): 7:50pm On Jul 31, 2014
DrummaBoy: [size=20pt]UPDATE ON THE CONVENTION: In Regards Nominations[/size]

Three individuals have been selected prior to the start of nominations. They are:

1. Yooguyz

2. Ihedinobi2

3. MrAnony1

We are left with six more people to add to this list to make up 9 individuals for the convention. The following are the nominees so far with the number of nominations:

PastorOluT ---- 7

Alwaystrue ---- 3

BabaGnoni ---- 3

ichuka --------- 2

MarkMiwerds--- 2

striktlymi ------- 1

Joagbaje -------- 1

truthislight -------- 1

ubenedictus ------- 1

Reyginius --------- 1

alexleo ----------- 1

nlmediator -------- 1

Ayoku777 --------- 1

italo --------------- 1

Bidam ------------ 1

Nominations are still welcome from the list below
I nominate alwaystrue
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 11:43am On Jul 05, 2014
Grey Blood: They are watching us; I mean Nairaland. Don't complain about the numbers. If your number gets to hundred, ur own don finish be that.

Greetings
cool
huh
Christianity EtcRe: I Daresay, You Don’t Believe In God! by Joshthefirst(m): 8:21am On Jul 05, 2014
[quote author=The.Big.Urban]^^
#most ignorant comment of the day.


I told you to read about monty python. Dont let ignorance ruin your life. Mockery is one of the best ways to criticise. It takes a thinking mind to mock something....to make satire of something on purpose.[/quote]Lol. The same way people of different religious beliefs mock each other?

Nonsense.

It takes an ignorant and foolish mind to mock things he knows nothing about.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 5:29am On Jul 05, 2014
dagr8: Glad to have you back Josh smiley....
good to be back.
Christianity EtcRe: I Daresay, You Don’t Believe In God! by Joshthefirst(m): 5:28am On Jul 05, 2014
[quote author=The.Big.Urban]Mockery is the cornerstone of criticism and sometimes the best form of criticism. Read about monty python

There are only two sets of people that are afraid of ridicule- despots and religious people.[/quote]there is one set of people who mock- foolish men who are not convinced of their position. If mockery is needed to pass your message across, then I have no business with you.
Christianity EtcRe: I Daresay, You Don’t Believe In God! by Joshthefirst(m): 5:19am On Jul 05, 2014
Weah96: Governments donize the ideology of people who believe in fairies. As long as churches continue to run their businesses without paying taxes, I will continue to ridicule the delusion. If the fairy people were to become entitled to tax free operations too, then they willl also share a piece of my mind.
ridicule? That's all you can do? That'd be childish. It'll even suggest you're threatened by the fact of God's certainty(which you are).

You are not even convinced of your own position.

Anyone who resorts to mockery and ridicule and swearing like the op is childish and worse than the person he mocks.

We should all try to educate each other and not mock. If mockery is the only thing you would do, then I'd doubt your state of mind and be disgusted.

Smh. Childish men who think mockery will help them establish their cause.
Christianity EtcRe: I Daresay, You Don’t Believe In God! by Joshthefirst(m): 5:04am On Jul 05, 2014
texanomaly: This article made some legitimate points. It could have possibly made many people seriously think. It is well written. It even seems to have sufficiently made an argument that can be taken, at face value, to make sense. The place where it loses all credibility, and frankly it is a shame, is here:


"What has the truth got to do with your feelings? If it's only about your feelings, I'm sorry, Bleep your feelings very much!"

Here the author takes a quite brilliant argument and flushes all credibility down the toilet. The entire premise becomes null and void by these two careless lines. The fair and unbiased "report-like" feel of the article takes on a combative, oppositional, illogical and childish feel. By openly attacking the audience, they immediately go on the offensive and disregard any of the logic the author may have had.

Childish indulgence often silences an otherwise intelligent voice.

Smh...what a shame.
agreed. cheesy

Hello ma'am.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 4:55am On Jul 05, 2014
FrancisTony: All my post, diary, topic is gone. I lost over 6,500 post and 43topics.

Yipee. grin grin Striktlymi and joshthefirst is back. cool
glad to be back people. Its like this was all a plan grin. Been watching from the sidelines for some time now. Nairaland remains the same. Learned new things. Got greater vigour, grown in Christ, grown in wisdom. God is good.

We bless Gods name forever more.

Keep walking in Gods reality and preaching his word. Aware of his kingdom.
Christianity EtcRe: Mankind And God. by Joshthefirst(m): 11:45pm On Jan 10, 2014
Sylvekzee: man exists to creat things more powerful than him, even Gods.
okay. So what do you mean by "God"?
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Without Sin by Joshthefirst(m): 11:29pm On Jan 10, 2014
Kay 17: I think we are on the same page, but don't you realise the law does not benefit man at all, because prior to the advent of Jesus, man was condemned without remedy. When the law ought to protect him!
the law ought to make him wise about his sinfulness. Jesus was taken on a promissory note. Men like abraham and the other patriarchs simply trusted God, had faith in him, and they were counted as righteous. The law guided us into faith in God. When others tried to achieve righteousness by their works, they reaped Gods anger and perished. So the law is good in its self. It guides us to faith in God.
Christianity EtcRe: Mankind And God. by Joshthefirst(m): 9:20pm On Jan 10, 2014
Kay 17: ^^
I'm still in my twenties, I'm not old.
okay
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Without Sin by Joshthefirst(m): 9:14pm On Jan 10, 2014
Kay 17: Hope you realize that men have been condemned because the law (supposed graceful law). Billions have been condemned to eternal hell, it is hard to see the benefit thereof in the light of this. If there was no law, man would be no sinner. The law suffocates, kills and then hangs man inspite of knowing man cannot fulfill it.
the law condemns us all. Condemns us all to hell. It is when we realize our condemnation that we reach out for the saviour: Jesus Christ. The law enables us to realize our sinfulness and the fact that we are already condemned, and look for salvation. By trusting God, and not trying to be good by our own power, breaking it even more. The law is eternal, even before man, it is established. God does not change. Man is already condemned. But we herald a saviour. Today we preach his light. It is only when one rejects the saviour that he pays the price in full for his unrepentance.
RomanceRe: Yes! I Told Him Openly That I Like It by Joshthefirst(m): 9:10pm On Jan 10, 2014
A born-again christian enjoys commiting fornication?
Mogbe.
People don't know who God is.


Op. You don't know what born-again is. It means saved from sin. You can't be saved from sin and still enjoy living with it. You're not born-again, or there's no such thing as christianity, its just a fortitude of the mind. I don't think so.

Op, you need to be born again.
PoliticsRe: Aviation: 5 Brand New International Airport Terminals Will Be Ready In 16 Months by Joshthefirst(m): 8:57pm On Jan 10, 2014
Goddex: God bless Nigeria. God bless GEJ.
We are moving forward.
GEJ has not started anything. I'm no fan of the opposition, I'll even vote for him if there's no other alternative, but we expected more from him. He made us promises. And we see local championships. To whom much is given much is expected.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Without Sin by Joshthefirst(m): 8:49pm On Jan 10, 2014
Kay 17: Acknowledged, however the law rather than benefit/protect man, it rather enslaves and condemns man, therefore Christianity sees the need for salvation from the law. Same as requiring protection from your parents who ought to be your protectors. It is an irony.
the law by itself is a huge benefit. The bible acknowledges that. Man by nature cannot keep Gods law. The law was given as a schoolmaster, to guide us to grace. So its a potent weapon of showing a man he is indeed sinful and guilty, of showing a man his imperfections, to guide him and take him to his saviour, the perfector. This is a bedrock of christianity. A change in nature. Freedom. Forgiveness. This life has changed people, and nations.
Christianity EtcRe: Religous War. Nigeria And The Curse Of Tokunbo Religions by Joshthefirst(m): 8:44pm On Jan 10, 2014
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]you lack a brain! is that all you gat to say?[/quote]no actually. No amount of trying to interpret will change anything. I'm sure you've had the interpretations of many of those shady scriptures. But you'll still deny. So go on shouting and hailing yourselves in your ignorance. I have nothing else to say to you. You're obviously a very biased human being, who will do anything to paint christianity as bad, make any claim to tarnish any image.
Christianity EtcRe: Religous War. Nigeria And The Curse Of Tokunbo Religions by Joshthefirst(m): 5:54pm On Jan 10, 2014
FOLYKAZE: Liar

You missed the horrible statements Jesus hauled out or probably you ignored it as it doesn't polish your ideology.

Jesus said you should hate your father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and your own life before you can be his disciple. This is the kind of Hateful ministry you people imported. It whole lot of hatred.

Pick up the bible again and read through. Accepting Jesus christ mean you should disperse your families with hatred and wish them death. There are many quotes from Jesus which doesn't encourage honouring of one's parents. Africa is a continent of many families....in millions. When hatred spark out in a family from christian convert, compare it to the number of converts today. That mean the whole continent is plagued with hatred, self-righteousness, greediness and disorganization. It is a known fact picking quotes from Jesus that he didn't have honour for parents and didn't value the family as a whole. The apostles also pointed out this and lots are found in the old testament.

There is also where he said his message would cause division among the family. Bible apart, dont you see the disorganization and misunderstanding in our society today? We have more than 40,000 christian sect and denominations contraditing, bashing and hating each other. It is kinda hard to find a Deeper life member worshipping in Celestial church. Catholic against protestants and other orthodox churches. MFM forming holier than thou while Redeem see Daddy G.O as saint and others are cultist. The Jehovah witness believing hatefully that ya all will be destroyed while CAC believing other sect will roast in hell. Each sect wishing other sect bad thing. Respect for self, family members and societal culture is lost.

Do you want me to go into household? Wife hardly kneeling down for her husband but roll on floor for pastor. Parents damning their children which they suffered before getting for abandoning their religion. Christians cant marry muslim and vice versa. Christians cant help or work with pagans. The worst is for those that are happy that there parents, children and neighbours are going to hell while they enjoy in heaven. Where is love and tolerance in this? This is practical view of what is in the bible and has infested the whole continent.

I agree with you there are some form of disagreement within Africans before Tokunbor Hatred Religion came in. But this is at the lowest margin.

Is it slavery you want to bring up? Slaves in Africa before the wicked ones came was likely bond labourers either of debt or war captive or crime. It was not brutal and the slave are mostly see as families which can inherit properties, labour for freedom, marry at will and have his own time.

- War is the basis of expansion and more political than religion or spirituality. Lot of treaties are meant and society build compassionate structure. Example is Ekiti.....like I heard, they are not original Yoruba tribe.

- In Spirituality or Religion. The game is if you believe in my divinities, worship with me. If you dont believe in them, dine with me. Ogun worshipper celebrating Ijala can do that with aworo Sango. An Igbo or Gambari can join the family engaging in spiritualism with them. Marriage turns you in completely without any problem. This same measure can not be said for christianity and Islam. It is whole lot of hatred.
you are ignorant of scripture and its interpretation.
Christianity EtcRe: Mankind And God. by Joshthefirst(m): 5:48pm On Jan 10, 2014
Kay 17: ^^

So why are you campaigning endlessly against hell?! When it is good
hell is just like prison. But eternal. You would personally campaign against it. But it is generally required for justice in eternity.

So chill and think about important practical stuff like this. Ma'am.

Sorry for the late reply
Christianity EtcRe: New Rule For 2014 by Joshthefirst(m): 5:45pm On Jan 10, 2014
plaetton: Hi.
Yes.
The Et angle to religion is actually the only way that, and for the religions of the world make proper sense.

All one has to do carefully study ancient scriptures ,and right there, it all leaps out right in front of you with perfect clarity.
Look at the Vedas-ancient Hindus texts whose original authorship are somewhere north of 10,000yrs ago.
Reading some parts of it would be like reading a modern sci-fi novel or star wars and star trek movies.
In it they have beings, the gods in flying machines, called the vemanas, flying in and out of Earth and space, shooting green laser beams at each other.

In the bible, you have the war in heaven in which lucifer, with his host of armies, rebelling against his master in a celestial interplanetary war for supremacy , and I assume, the control of either the earth or another planet in our solar system .

In genesis we hear that the Elohim(plural for El) created man in their likeness. We also read that man was created to till the soil for them. Man , the first set of humans were custom made slaves, and were existing in zombie-like states.
We also read that the Elohim cautioned against granting man self-consciousness and freewill because they feared what the creature might become and probably challenge their authority.

We also read that the serpent ( he who knows the secret of life, in other words, he knows the secrets of DNA), an epithet for one of the high ranking Elohim, entered the scene and altered man's dna once again, but this time, giving man full consciousness and self-awareness.
This is supposed to be, in christian lore, the original sin of Adam.

Further reading in genesis, we see that the chief El threw a lot of tantrums and lamented that " Who did this? the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, we must prevent him from eating the tree of life(further DNA tampering to enhance spiritual acuity) lest he eat from it
and live forever.

And there began humankind's problems with angry gods.lol
The rest is history.

But ofcourse there is a lot more to said about humankind's yo yo and rocky relationships with these Extra-terrestial gods, right up till this day.
grin
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 5:32pm On Jan 10, 2014
mazaje: That proves my point. . .3150 BC is about 5200 years ago. . .Can you show me that there were no people living in Egypt about 4300 years ago(the period of the alleged flood)?. . .Show me from any historical evidence that the entire people living in Egypts were wiped out 4300 years ago and no one was living there. . I can show you historical evidence that people were VERY active in Egypt and living very normal lives about 4500 years ago in Egypt till date. . .
as I said, the dating problem can never be resolved. Its either we are making a mistake in our dating, or you're making a mistake in your dating. But the flood happened. This is a cheapshot way of debunking the great flood. We might as well be arguing when it happened, and not if it really happened. Think of something else without appeal to popular authority, or I'll appeal to the greatest and most legitimate authority there is, effectively shutting you up sir.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Without Sin by Joshthefirst(m): 5:19pm On Jan 10, 2014
There is no sin? No. Sin is very basic and universal. Wrongdoing. There must be an absolute for us to rely on. History has shown that even the laws made up by a society can deviate from norm and bring trouble upon others. There is a divine law. Sin is the transgression of the law. Man is god? Then each man can treat himself as the moral standard irrespective of anyother. Chaos will reign.

There is an absolute moral law that tells us what is objectively wrong, written in our consciences. There is a lawgiver. We must reconcile all laws to this divine law; we must determine right and wrong by this divine law. Or we will end up in chaos in society. Lawless and immoral.



So no amount of denial will hide wrong-doing. We all know of wrongdoing. We all have done wrong.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 8:27pm On Jan 08, 2014
[quote author=phuck_NL]Why wouldn't they lie is my question!!!!!!!
Ancient man has been known to lie on so many issues.
They used fear back in the days to control people. From the Egyptians to the Roman empire.
What makes this any different. I have read it several times. What I am basically telling you is that I don't believe what they compiled that they lied.

What if I told you that I believe that ODUDUWA came from the sky. What would you say?[/quote]why would they lie and risk their lives? How did they exploit and control? Read about the journes of paul and his troubles, and read about how the christian society was organized with a view of even caring for the poor and widows, in love and peace in the bible. Read and stop forcing yourself to doubt. How can they lie about prophecies we see coming to pass before our very eyes? Prophecies so improbable?

OLAADEGBU: At first Noah's wife thought that her husband was just trying to tell her that he wanted a boat. shocked
grin
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 8:20pm On Jan 08, 2014
Mr Aboki: Now this is getting ridiculous..

Archeaologists and Scientists that have discovered these ancient Pyramids and dated them using Carbon Dating (the most accurate form of dating available to mankind) have come out with their findings and you still dont agree..


The Bible which was written by unknown people, with outrageous stories, no present evidence to back it up, never been verified AND then compiled by the Catholic church under the orders of a King who was trying to use religion as a form of control says it... You dont ask for Dating or proof, you just agree.. grin

O now I believe you... I never considered the water beneath the earth... grin DAMN YOU UNDERGROUND WATER... angry grin
nawa o. Its a settled fact that there is water beneath the earth now. Water vapour is even released in volcanic eruptions. Aboki take it easy abeg. You are the one agreeing with scientists who use faulty dating methods without thinking for yourself or questioning. You appeal to authority, the authority of majority. That's not how to debate.

I have adressed most of the issues you have raised here before. It is a very real possibility and even a compelling fact, that a global cataclysmic event occurred years ago.

And it seems you're just joking, not ready to debate.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 3:29pm On Jan 08, 2014
[quote author=phuck_NL]Here's my question to you. WHO recorded it? Because we all know GOD did not write the BIBLE.
I ask again, why should I believe that WHAT the writers wrote/recorded is true since most of their stories do not add up.
If MAN has been lieing since Adam and Eve, what makes it different this time around. How can you tell me with 100% certainty that the writers did not LIE for their own selfish benefits.

If the Records had fallen from the SKY, fine. We know it didn't. It was compiled by MAN.
MAN lies.[/quote]lol. Go and read the bible again. This time objectively. Go and read the records of early believers. Why would they lie? No man in his right senses will see the bible in all its prophecies and deny the fact that it is extra-ordinary.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 3:24pm On Jan 08, 2014
Mr Aboki: You want to tell me, a Geological Engineer about the proof that the entire earth was once flooded at the same time.. grin
toh. May we see na.

Mr Aboki: Na wah o!! Now I feel like an e-bully.. grin
grin


Mr Aboki: Okay.. Did you know that;

1. The Great Pyramid of Cheops was built about 2589-2566 BC, about 230 years before the flood, yet it has no water marks on it. grin
according to which dating standards?

Mr Aboki: 2. The Djoser Step Pyramid at Saqqara, Egypt, built about 2630 BC doesn't show any signs of having been under water.
according to which dating standards?

Mr Aboki: 3. the Egyptians have continuous historical records for hundreds of years before and after the time of the flood that make no mention of a great flood.
no. Gimme your evidence then. There are only archaeological records that secular scientists date with faulty dating methods.

Mr Aboki: 4. To cover even Mount Ararat, where Noah's Ark supposedly landed after the flood, in 40 days would require over 400 feet of water per day. That's not 400 inches, but 400 feet a day.
the bibilical records state that the water reserves beneath the crust broke open, and the rains fell constantly and torrentially for 40 days.
So it would have been very easy.

Mr Aboki: NOTE:: Forget that crap you wrote about the Mountains not being that high because the Bible speaks of great mountains in the time before the flood. Were these great mountains mentioned in the Bible only a few feet high?
we're considering the possibility of a flood, I have said this earlier. You cannot consider this possibility that would have cause enough crust and landscape modifications with the view of contemporary landscape today.

Mr Aboki: Just to jog your biblical memory, please read: Exodus 19:16-19.. And tell me that a mountain that has coulds resting on it was a small mountain.. Or your defence would be that the clouds were lower in those days... grin iKid, iKid.. grin
as I said, you cannot argue this possibility with modern landscape.




Mr Aboki: Finally For now..:: Go and read the Babylonian story of Gilgamesh (Which is older than the story of Noah..).. Then come back and tell me what you noticed in the story..
go and read the record of the flood again, this time without religious or irreligious bias, like a true scientist that you are. grin[/quote]
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 2:27pm On Jan 08, 2014
And this is not godidit. Besides, what's wrong with God did it? Why are you so against God then? If he claims he did it and its recorded and there's evidence, what's wrong? Why does this very fact threaten you? The same people go around shouting randomness and chance did it and expect to be taken seriously. Mtchew.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Joshthefirst(m): 2:17pm On Jan 08, 2014
Mr Aboki: No..

The real problem with Man is that we still have humans like you who still are afraid to push the boundaries.. angry Ask questions, test Logic, etc..

How can you believe all those ridiculous stories in the Bible (which you subconciously know that they are far-fetched) without questioning them. Now if I were God, the people who will go to hell are those who failed to seek knowledge.

God.. You dont even know what that is. All you know is that you have been told about the existence of a heavenly plain with winged Angels soaring around in white robes, a God with a Son and no wife and then the Holy Spirit who I still dont understand his role. You rely on religous manuscripts allegedly written by people who existed in a time when Malaria was a killer disease and the inventor of the Abacus would have been stoned. You are quick to swallow hook line and sinker the stories in the bible without even bothering to use the Sense that God has given you to ponder on them.

Your playstation Analogy is re:tarded. I know Sony. Sony is real not imagined or read up in a book. Sony is still present and keeps updating the Playstation to match the present times. The most recent book of the Bible is still older than 1000 years.

The day you conciously start using the brains that 'GOD' has given you, thats the day you would be free from bondage. The day you can read the story of Job and see it as God & Satan playing Ludo with a Humans life, then you will be free.. The day you read the Noah story and see that even if by chance that was ture, it was Genocide, then you will be emancipated, The day you look at the Bible and see it as an Isreali/Jewish package that has little regard for Blacks & Africa, then your salvation would have started.


Even God sef no fit believe that a 600 year old Man could have built an Ark.. angry

If I told you a story about my fore-fathers how Elder Aboki in 1400 B.C at the age of 500 years old impregnanted a Woman, you would say I am lying. If that same story were in the Bible, You would put your hands on it and be praying with it.. grin

Now what is the Problem with Mankind again?! angry
wetin you dey tok here aboki? Menene ka-ina yi? Go and read the bibilical account of the flood and look at our world today. There is more than enough evidence. And don't begin to dey tok of logic oo. The atheists I argued with earlier believe in illogic and destructive physics and they accuse me of being illogical. grin

Ina wini? grin




This thread has gone far. Smh.


And evil brain still repeated the nonsense questions again?
Chei.

The bible specifically says noah took different kinds. The landscape was much different then. The mountains then, if a flood as great as that occurred, would be much lower and different from the ones of today. HIV is a virus. Different strains of viruses appear very quickly. If people are still arguing about viruses and microbes here, they are joking, not to be taken seriously. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Mankind And God. by Joshthefirst(m): 12:47pm On Jan 06, 2014
Kay 17: @joshthefirst

Mention people that Hell helps

Also, lus, selfishness wouldn't be sins if there was no God. Sin is what God doesn't like. But one man's meat is another's poison. There is no true justifications for sin.
hell is punishment of evil. Punishment of evil will ultimately help humanity.
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 8:24pm On Jan 05, 2014
Uyi Iredia: Big lie ! What I said is true. The one of cadavers is quite outmoded, and it isn't as widespread as is suggested. But the exclamation is very true. It was decades back in the era of ghost students with fake degrees. That has abated. However some are already in the system. The one of physiology is
okay. I admit the other pure medical sciences are neglected mostly. Especially in research.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Myopia by Joshthefirst(m): 5:00pm On Jan 05, 2014
Sorry, the fact that there are different gods in the market does not mean there is no original God. God is the creator. And he is not christian. Lol. He is God. The Creator of all, the God of all flesh.

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