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Christianity EtcRe: Four Basic Things You Probably Didn't And Should Know About Atheists. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:33am On Dec 28, 2013
onetrack: I thought that, for Christians, Jesus was "the answer".

The OP is a superb article.
come on man, don't act as if you didn't get what I said.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Abortion Wrong In Cases Of Rape, Incest Or When The Mother's Life Is At Risk? by Joshthefirst(m): 10:26am On Dec 28, 2013
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Then submit to the rules of your tribe and society.[/quote]I believe you should ask by what standards should societal rules be made?


If I was in germany during the time of the holocaust, submitting to their rules would mean considering myself as less than human and allowing myself to be discriminated against and killed.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would God Need Prophets, Pastors And Evangelism? by Joshthefirst(m): 10:22am On Dec 28, 2013
onetrack: And what if god's true followers are actually the atheists who correctly conclude that no god has ever sent qny prophets. How would you expect to be judged by this god?
huh
Christianity EtcRe: Is Abortion Wrong In Cases Of Rape, Incest Or When The Mother's Life Is At Risk? by Joshthefirst(m): 10:09am On Dec 28, 2013
OlaoChi: Have no right to decide wat is right or wrong for people. Live your life by your own rules or by your Bible rules but don't rub it on peoples faces
nope. Right or wrong is objective. Living by your own rules and definitions of what is right and wrong will result in utter chaos and confusion in the society.
Christianity EtcRe: Mother Thanks Atheist Group For A Good Xmas After Church Gives Her Bad Treatment by Joshthefirst(m): 9:56am On Dec 28, 2013
Logicboy03: grin grin


You have started again.

Unlike santa n spag monster, we arent told to respect the megalomania of your God
actually, no one forces you to do anything for God, but you continually twist and twist and jump and scream and tear your hair out. Chei. Your people continually try all they can to eradicate religion, especially the christian religion, people like Dawkins openly encouraging others to curse and mock christianity and God. No one is europe is forcing atheists to become christians, yet same atheists boldly arrogantly harass every christian they come across. That should tell you something is wrong.
Christianity EtcRe: Mother Thanks Atheist Group For A Good Xmas After Church Gives Her Bad Treatment by Joshthefirst(m): 9:40am On Dec 28, 2013
woky: Logicboy don tear singlet grin
grin grin grin

Abeg tell am may hin take am easy ooo.

Him head wan explode. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Mother Thanks Atheist Group For A Good Xmas After Church Gives Her Bad Treatment by Joshthefirst(m): 9:39am On Dec 28, 2013
Logicboy03: OMG! WHO THE FAWK CARES ABOUT GOD??

WE ATHEIST DO GOOD OUT OF OUR HEARTS FOR THE
BENEFIT OF MAN AND NOT JUST TO IMPRESS GOD
you're the one who brought God and the bible up in this thread. Everything you do here centers around God and you trying to debunk him. So don't lie to yourself thinking you don't care about a God you mock and curse and argue about everyday. You don't see anyone mocking and cursing santa claus or the flying spaghetti monster do you. Keep your butthurt to yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Four Basic Things You Probably Didn't And Should Know About Atheists. by Joshthefirst(m): 9:34am On Dec 28, 2013
We don't have all the answers too. So when we say we don't know, don't explode.

And we're wise enough to realize that mockery and anger related to the butthurt of atheism is unhealthy and suggests negative influence.
Christianity EtcRe: Mother Thanks Atheist Group For A Good Xmas After Church Gives Her Bad Treatment by Joshthefirst(m): 9:11am On Dec 28, 2013
woky: Josh nwannem nwoke, we dy drag land? grin



ke d way?
Udo odikwa??
lol. Udo di nwanne. Kee maka ginwa? Kee maka ndi be gi?
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 9:01am On Dec 28, 2013
^^^

Leave him. He twists the bible for his own benefit and cherry picks scriptures that seem to strenghten his world view.

There's no use speaking with someone who is openly dishonest and who uses every chance he gets to curse God.
Christianity EtcRe: Mother Thanks Atheist Group For A Good Xmas After Church Gives Her Bad Treatment by Joshthefirst(m): 8:58am On Dec 28, 2013
Good for the atheists. It doesn't really help them before God though. Good works do not negate evil works and thoughts before God.
So the verse still stands.

And the verse is the same in all translations and in the original texts and scrolls. Conveying the same message.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 8:48am On Dec 28, 2013
OlaoChi: But that's what you have been doing since
when and where have I been making false conclusions.

And about our conversation here, I cannot say anything anymore, since you think christians are lazy people and impotent humans who don't do anything for themselves but just sit down and pray, and you think God is simply about money and life enhancement.

I have tried to correct your views of both, but you still cling on.
Christianity EtcRe: Deepsight, Is The Intellect The Supreme Arbiter Of Human Reality? by Joshthefirst(m): 8:33am On Dec 28, 2013
plaetton: No is no room in my brain for belief
lol. See how despecable you are. I asked a simple question that has debunked all your english on this thread and you choose to be shady and not answer it. Toh. Wetin man go do. I will simply keep repeating the simple question until someone comes to rescue you with more shady english. grin


Simple question: Do you believe in intuition? A yes or no answer will suffice.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 8:29am On Dec 28, 2013
rudedough: [b]I don't want to summarize the scripture anymore in order not to cause an argument, I'll just let people read the scripture themselves and make their own conclusion.


Numbers 31:25-40
25 The Lord said to Moses, 26 “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured. 27 Divide the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community. 28 From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the Lord one out of every five hundred, whether people, cattle, donkeys or sheep. 29 Take this tribute from their half share and give it to Eleazar the priest as the Lord’s part. 30 From the Israelites’ half, select one out of every fifty, whether people, cattle, donkeys, sheep or other animals. Give them to the Levites, who are responsible for the care of the Lord’s tabernacle.” 31 So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.

32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was:

337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the Lord was 675;
38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the Lord was 72;
39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the Lord was 61;
40 16,000 people, of whom the tribute for the Lord was 32.

You see how much your God enjoys the smell of burnt human flesh. He's sharing LIFE HUMAN BEINGS like chicken, he says it's plunder. WTF is plunder? grin grin grin
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where does it say here that the people were sacrificed as burnt offerings? Just ook at how this guy lies and makes false conclusions.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would God Need Prophets, Pastors And Evangelism? by Joshthefirst(m): 8:22am On Dec 28, 2013
Lol. Another excuse.

God has his own principles. He does things his own way. Just because there are fakes in the market, you deny the existence of an original.
And as plaetton has said, the lot of you are like people arguing the existence of gravity. Not to be taken seriously.

God has declared that he will come physically again to this earth as a judge. Until then, his followers preach repentance to everyone. Stop giving silly excuses.
Christianity EtcRe: Deepsight, Is The Intellect The Supreme Arbiter Of Human Reality? by Joshthefirst(m): 11:33pm On Dec 27, 2013
plaetton: You just can't seem to separate Belief and reality.
A belief can only be local to an individual. Reality is reality to everyone.
For example, a belief in Angels is local only to you and your religious friends, whereas, gravity is universally real to everyone.

So please, lets keep this discussion within the confines of universally accepted reality.
what is this? I ask you a simple question and you're saying what I don't know. Do you believe in intuition? A yes or no is enough.
Christianity EtcRe: New Rule For 2014 by Joshthefirst(m): 11:30pm On Dec 27, 2013
Mr Troll: as yahweh and allah has continually failed Nigeria where will they turn to?
yhwh has never failed anyone.


Bros, people succeed in life without your imaginary gods. Deal with it.
if you mean in terms of money, of course people succeed in life without God. They amass wealth. But as for me, when I accepted God, he became the center, and my definition of success became his, and is based on his rules and his ways.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:26pm On Dec 27, 2013
rudedough: cheesy cheesy cheesy Someone needs to read this out to these people, they need to listen to themselves when they are boxed in a corner.
toh. I don't admit to knowing everything. But I know God is just.

And I don't run away and never reply or talk nonsense when I'm boxed in a corner like some people do wink I just plainly say I don't know.

Goodnight abeg. Nothing person no go see. Chei. When it came to your turn of reading the bible, God became an unjust double faced God. grin. Toh. Anything that's convenient for you abeg.
Christianity EtcRe: New Rule For 2014 by Joshthefirst(m): 11:23pm On Dec 27, 2013
plaetton: ^^^
I have a 5-step program for dealing with big problems.
1. Confront the problem head on and map out a possible solution.
2. Have a strong drink.
3. summon the mistress
4. If it gets worse, take a prozac
5. And if it gets even worse, grab the phone and call mom.
Mom is the final solution to every problem in life.
No god required.
grin
grin grin grin

Toh. When these things fail you, who will you turn to?
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:15pm On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind: And who says you should reply me. Please, start ignoring me. People keep seeing the truth and are leaving religion (christianity most especially) in great numbers grin grin

Lol, make I no digress as you said. I'll like to open a thread about this test of abraham.

Make you con show my "delusions" cheesy cheesy
abeg open am fast fast. People have been leaving christianity since christianity started. Many more people are accepting christianity because they choose the logical and reasonable interpretations of scripture and God, not illogical pathetic deductions that massage their egos.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:13pm On Dec 27, 2013
rudedough: Man you're not smart, you're a dumbo so just shut up. Even after placing the full text of that story here you still couldn't read and comprehend it. When other smart Christians like @Drummerboy have buried their head in shame, you're here shouting Jephthah's daughter wasn't sacrificed.

You must be fun at parties.
and your obvious bias betrays you. You interpret the illogical and ridiculous. God passing judgements on nations for child sacrifice will accept human sacrifice in your case of reading the bible. grin

Chai. Abeg go siddon. You're flat on your face.
Christianity EtcRe: 5 Facts About Abortion For The Anti-abortion Crusaders by Joshthefirst(m): 11:10pm On Dec 27, 2013
Mr Troll: I thought ismokeweed was a lady?



as usual, you ignore the salient points raised and just la la all over the place.
sorry.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:08pm On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind: Lol @ bold. See?

Platteon was absolutely right. God is the greatest escape artist ever known. He is never at fault grin grin
yes God is faultless and infallible. If you don't like it, I have nothing to pacify your butthurt. grin you guys will not kill me with laughter.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:06pm On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind: Lol, I really wished these guys know how they sound. Maybe they tell someone to read their messages to them before posting.

Don't be surprised, one of them may come to say yahweh didn't want to interfere with the freewill of Jephthah.

But somehow, he interfered with the freewill of Abraham.

The level of intellectual dishonesty these guys are ready to go just to defend yahweh baffles me
this is why ignore you most times. How did God now interfere with abraham's freewill? He tested abraham, did he force abraham to do anything? Let us not digress abeg.

After una finish all your cock and bull story, I will still stand and say the same thing. I have read the bible, and I only get strenghtened in my faith and reverence for God.


Jephthah made a vow, means God killed his daughter. Chei. See bald-faced liars abeg. God that says he hates human sacrifice will start miraculously accepting them in the case of you and your atheism when you read the bible. grin

All of you are decieving yourselves
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:00pm On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind: If he didn't accept the sacrifice, why not prevent Jephthah from sacrificing his daughter?

Lol, so it was double tragedy for Jephthah, he lost his daughter and yahweh didn't accept the sacrifice.

Lol, you debate with me so others will see the delusions. Which delusions have you ever shown? When? Where? How?
as I said, you can choose to believe what you want to believe. God did not order jephthah to kill his daughter.
If jephthah killed his daughter, I do not know if or why God did not warn him(who knows if he did but he was ignored?)

Jephthah might not have even sacrificed his daughter in the first place.

Delusions of grandeur: God does not exist, God is evil, God can be put on trial grin, etc, etc.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:54pm On Dec 27, 2013
rudedough: Why are you trying too hard to be re.tarded? Read what you wrote again and see how funny you sound.

You quoted where God killed an innocent girl for sacrifice and you are talking about "God kills in judgement. Those who break his law are condemned" What is inside this your coconut head? Wa se eleyi wa alright?

What was the sins of Jephthah's daughter to be killed for sacrifice? I thought you said God does not accept human sacrifices. But non-the-less tell us the sins of Jephthah's daughter.
you lie boldly.

Where did God kill an innocent ? I gave two interpretations of that scripture, and I said that even in the case of the two, God cannot be blamed.

Jephthah killed his daughter means that God cordoned it. Chei. I'm sure lots daughter's sleeping with him also means God cordoned it. See how low you would stoop to justify your position. grin




And if you think that God has changed, you're decieving yourself. He's the same God, and he's set the time for judgement. We're in the time for preaching right now.

So I advice you to drop your ill-conceived and pathetic notions of God and repent of your sins, or you might face his wrath in judgement.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:48pm On Dec 27, 2013
rudedough: [b] cheesy cheesy cheesy Just now you said Jephthah's daughter wasn't sacrificed that she sacrificed her virginity, but now that the truth has come to light, you are saying she was sacrificed but wasn't not God's fault. Are Christians truly honorable? Do they practice the truth they preach? This is how 2 faced Christians are, they can never stand on their word. Cowardly lying about the obvious.

I thought you and @truthislight said God does not accept human sacrifices. grin grin When i told you guys that you haven't read your bible, you thought i was being proud. Is Jephthah's daughter not a human sacrifice?

Like Isaac, Jephthah's daughter was his only child. sad sad So God can let a man kill his only child and burn her for God to enjoy the aroma of her burnt flesh and leave the man Childless. cry cry cry Too bad!!!

Na wa for this kind religion oo.. Tomorrow you will see them walking about with their bible, trying to convince innocent people to join them serve their blood thirsty cannibalistic God. A God who like Okija demands and accepts fowl, and human sacrifices.

I still haven't seen anyone who have read the bible and still remain a Christian. If there is show me, but 90% of Atheists became Atheists after reading the bible. I challenge Christians to read their bible and remain Christians after.
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nonsense. I said the same thing in my first post on this jephthah issue. Don't run off and start feeling yourself.

I've read my bible well.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:44pm On Dec 27, 2013
Mr Troll: grin cheesy cheesy

Anything to excuse Yahweh. Hilarious I tell ya.
we don't need to excuse yhwh. He answers to no one. No amount of accusing or blindfolding will change him or anything. He is God.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:43pm On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind: What is wrong with you? I have raised arguments no less than 10 times on this thread alone. What do you mean by me coming out to speak for myself?
Were you blind when I said this



How about the countless others? You must be wilfully blind to imply I don't speak for myself.

And as for your response, its nonsense as usual. God doesn't accept all sacrifices but he accepts some like he accepted jephtahs daughter.

Like I said initially, you should bury your head in shame
who says God accepted jephthahs's sacrifice? Why will you always lie to yourself and others in a blind bid to discredit God, falling on your face and embarrasing yourself in the process?

Are you one of those men who will also say that God accepted incest and fornication because it is recorded that lots daughters slept with him in the bible?

God does somethings "inspite" of our wrongdoing.(And it is not yet settled that jephthah sacrificed his daughter mind you).




And I do not claim to have all the answers and know all the scriptures, but I believe God anyway. I know whom I serve. I know he is faithful and has integrity. Simple. What you say will not change anything. No amount of you twisting and misinterpreting the bible will change anything. I mostly even debate with you so others will see behind the delusions you present and avoid them.
Christianity EtcRe: New Rule For 2014 by Joshthefirst(m): 10:35pm On Dec 27, 2013
plaetton: So you agree with me on most points.
But who provides and rewards me when I don't even acknowledged the existence of god, let alone worship or trust him?
you take care of yourself then. You trust in yourself. When problems arise, you have no god to ask for help.
But I hope you will not be decieved into thinking that those whose problems are too big for them and those who ask God for help are impotent sir. No. Humans are vulnerable. Its simple. There's no use denying it.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:27pm On Dec 27, 2013
And here is further interpretation showing Jephthah might not have actually sacrificed his daughter. God was publicly against human sacrifice in israel, it was one of their laws.

Judges 11:31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.


It is largely argued that Jephthah was saying that if an animal came out first, it will be offered as a burnt offering, and if a human came out first, he/she will be dedicated to God.

Judges 11:39 39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Rudedough To A Discussion On God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:19pm On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind: Lol, as usual. God is never to be blamed. As platteon once said, God is the greatest escape artist ever known.

Why didn't God prevent him from sacrificing his daughter as in the case of abraham? grin grin what does God do with human sacrifices?

You should honestly bury your head in shame
nope. God is faithful. God does not accept all sacrifices. God is never to be blamed. He fulfills his word. God is not an escape artist because he has not done anything wrong. I wonder the kind of mind you have then, or the image of a God you have, that is faulty and can even be put trial and ignored by his creation. That is impotent thinking. God has given us his true image, If you don't believe him, that is your concern. I have shown you where the bible says people did as they saw fit, keep looking for pathetic and petty excuses to continue in wrong-doing and rebellion.


And stop being a pathetic troll and come out and speak for yourself instead of jumping up and down cheering from the sidelines.

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