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Christianity is deeper than mere religion


From the bibilical definition.

slye: Let the Christians help a brother na. What is Christianity??

"christian" is a word used probably in mockery by people regarding the believers in christ in the church at antioch describing their lifestyle as it was similar to Christs lifestyle.

Christ-ian

Lifestyle. Lifestyle. Lifestyle of godliness and righteousness. Most who profess to be christians are not really christians. They profess to know God, but in their works deny him. Being reprobate and abominable.


Christianity is deeper than mere religion.
It is a relionship that radically changes ones lifestyle and makes him repent from sin.

Anyone who has not repented from sin is not a real christian and does not profess christianity.


Some shameless elements claim to have been christians before when they were actually hypocrites practicing empty religion. Don't listen to them. It is not easy to truly know God, and fall away( I do not say it is impossible)

Thank you for your time.
God bless you.

We know christianity from lifestyle.

sandijey: Very true! Hell or satan does not exist! I believe God destroyed the kingdom of darkness a long long time ago! Because I have read so many books on spirituality,concept of life after death and many sacred text, I believe there is redemption even after death!

God destroyed the kingdom of darkness long ago? Wow! That's good news in a way! But why do we still feel the raw impact of this kingdom everywhere we go?

Once again. I aim at opening a thread on words. God-filled words. Spirit-words.

I'll post here frequently I hope.

I'll start with an excerpt from (INTRO) [color=#000000]PROPHETS[/color]; The Message//Remix.

They delivered God's commands and promises and living prescence to communities and nations who had been living on god-fantasies and god-lies.
Everyone more or less believes in God. But most of us do our best to keep God on the margins of our lives or, failing that, refashion God to suit our conscience. Prophets insist that God is the sovereign center, not off in the wings awaiting our beck and call. And prophets insist that we deal with God as God reveals himself, not as we imagine him to be.
These men and women woke people up to the sovereign prescence of God in their lives. They yelled, they wept, they rebuked, they soothed, they challenged, they comforted. They used words with power and imagination, whether blunt or subtle...

For a people who are accustomed to "fitting God" into their lives, or as we like to say, "making room for God," the prophets are hard to take and easy to dismiss. The God of whom the prophets speak is far too large to fit into our lives. if we want anything to do with God, we have to fit into him.
The prophets are not "reasonable," accomodating themselves to what makes sense to us. They are not diplomatic, tactfully negotiating an agreement that allows us a "say" in the outcome. What they do is haul us unceremoniously into a reality far too large to be accounted for by our explanations and expectations. They plunge us into a mystery, immense and staggering. Their words and visions penetrate the illusions with which we cocoon ourselves from reality. We humans have an enormous capacity for denial and for self-deceit. We incapacitate ourselves from dealing with the consequences of sin, for facing judgement, from embracing truth. Then the prophets step in and help us to first recognize and then enter the new life God has for us, the life that hope in God opens up.
They don't explain God. They shake us out of old conventional habits of small-mindedness, of trivializing god-gossip, and set us on our feet in wonder and obedience and worship. If we insist on understanding them before we live into them. We will never get it...

One of the bad habits that we pick up early in our lives is seperating things and people into secular and sacred. We assume that the secular is what we are more or less in charge of: our jobs, our time, our entertainment, our government, our social relations. The sacred is what God has charge of: worship and the Bible, heaven and hell, church and prayers. We then contrive to set aside a sacred place for God, designed, we say. To honour God but really intended to keep God in his place, leaving us free to have the final say about everything else that goes on.
Prophets will have none of this. They contend that everything, absolutely everything, takes place on sacred ground. God has something to say about every aspect of our lives: the way we feel and act in the so-called privacy of our hearts and homes, the way we make our money and spend it, the politics we embrace, the wars we fight, the catastrophies we endure, the people we hurt and the people we help. Nothing is hidden from the scrutiny of God, nothing is excempt from the rule of God, nothing escapes the purposes of God. Holy, holy, holy.
Prophets make it impossible to evade God or make detours around God. Prophets insist on receiving god in every nook and cranny of life. For a prophet, God is more real than the next-door neighbour

In the old times, it was the prophets. In these times, we're the prophets, the witnesses. We have a responsibility to ourselves and to God and mankind. We must speak and live reality, we must accurately interpret Gods will and stand for the real deal.

We have different covers, but our missions are basically the same.

After I received Christ, the words that rang continually in my spirit, and still do till today, are these:

Walk in the reality of Gods word

It is when we walk that we serve. It is when we abide in his word that we bear much fruit, that we're led according to his purpose in speaking and bearing witness.

So let us not be distracted. Let us be Gods witnesses. Signs of his prescence in life. Interpreters of his will for mankind. Preachers of his salvation.

Let us walk in the reality of Gods word.

Logicboy03: Science has the luxury of ammending a flawed position because it is based on the available ewvidence. Should the evidence shift, the sceince will shift.

good.

Religion lacks such a luxury because it claims perfect knowledge from God perfect knowledge can't have a flawed portion.




And to answer your question, a flawed portion of an idea must be ammended but religious people like davidylan gloss over the flaws. Science tackles and corrects.

good. You'll have to change your words from religion to godly for them to carry full effect though. I don't believe in empty and hypocritical religious practices.

But you'll also have to show examples of the flaws of christianity and how science has "tackled" them. Or rather, how you have tackled them.

macof: Lot was a holy man that was blessed by God


Everything he did in the Bible was condone by the Bible God

nope. You're wrong. Even abraham did not do everything completely right in Gods eyes. Stop believeing and assuming what you want to believe because it suits you. Stop believeing carefully concocted falasies and fantasies. Believe the reality of truth.

ifeness: What human will go to space and remain a christian. The further you dive into science,archeology the less you will think about Jesus.

Like i said your likes are a waste to humanity. When the first man landed on the moon,the christians were shouting " wrath of God!" Lol your sky god will be angry that some humans are advancing? You cannot be a scientist and remain a christian,it is impossible! Scientists believe in evolution,christians don't FOOL!

Chei.

Alfa Seltzer: When Lot offered his daughters to anal rapists, was he sinning?

just because its recorded does not mean God cordones it.

ifeness: Hatred,Anger and Spite are nothing but human natures. Where have man made measures of checking the excesses if needed. But you believing an imaginary heaven exist is a sign your brain needs to be enhanced

another puerile attempt at blaming mans basic problems on human nature.

You are the one who needs to have your brain reorientated into facing your problems and seeking truth instead of trying to live with your problems or blaming it on your nature without doing anything about it.

I thought you believed in solving mans problems? It seems you constitute them.

ifeness: Imagine someone who is economically useless on planet Earth thinking of going to heaven. Christians have been programmed to be useless in every angle you can think of. They are spiritually,mentally stagnant. They sit on their lazy bum without contributing to the advancement of humanity. Such people can only be good as slaves.

another laughable post filled with hatred and disdain.


The above post is what mankind should be adressing. He should be adressing how to curb hatred and anger and spite.

Instead, he mocks.

plaetton: Do you know what is called Psych-ops?

Psych-Ops is covert psychological warfare.
It is a true and tested for of warfare.
It is warfare against the mind.

Psych-Ops are used as first line of offence to soften, trick, confuse and disorganize the enemy or the intended target group before other lethal forms of warfare are commenced.

So, whether you missionaries colonialists or not, the missionaries were part of the game. They were the Psych-Ops that came in to soften our minds, deflect our minds, as well as gather intelligence for the invading colonialists.
In fact, in well documented cases, missionaries were instructed to use biblical scriptures to emphasize the joys of poverty to the native tribes so as to make it easier to rob them of their resources.

"Blessed are the meek(the poor) for they shall inherit the earth" (what a load of crap )

Does the above ring a bell?

laughable. Many of them died and made terrible sacrifices, leaving the comfort of england to preach to your forefathers. To share a vital message with them. They were killed, yet they came.

It is amazing what you would go to great lengths to believe sir, twisting facts to suit yourself. Very amazing.

rationalmind: Numbs 22:28

28 Then the LORD opened the donkey’s
mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to
you to make you beat me these three times?

You no longer believe this?

Do you also believe your cousin is a bonobo monkey?

[quote author=Manhunter™]Y u come dey vex? person no fit follow una play again?[/quote]seriously which kind play be that?

So crude mockery is playplay?


Welldone.

ifeness: And who were the missionaries? Weren't they the same Europeans?

They gave you the bible and you handed them your brains

Missionaries were not colonialists.

You say I handed them my brain?
Please can you tell me how I did that?

nnofaith: jesus should be hanging out with sponge bob and patrick!

its nice to see you in your usual mocking demeanor.

ifeness: A word is enough for the wise. Let them who have ears listen to the above words of wisdom and warning. Africans were hijacked by Arabs with war and islam to build mighty empires in the middle east .Later came the Europeans who came with guns and bibles and took us away in big boats as slave,next is Rapture to Mar As usual they are preparing our dumb minds for the next trip...... Christians be warned!!!!

christianity was brought by missionaries before the colonialists arrived. Stop lying to advocate your atheism.

[quote author=Bélla3]I love this thread!

#grabs extra large pop corn(its gon' be a long show)[/quote]your show has been going on for 9 months and over 70 pages now.

Uyi Iredia: The should have been a 7th item in Solomon's list of things never satisfied. The scientific materialism of the West. There are more crucial problems this globe faces and you are planning on colonizing the moon. Don't get me wrong and cast me a neo-Luddite, I ain't but the over-optimism (as I see it) as to what tech can do has caused poorly thought stances like future technology being necessary to create an utopia, or going for a piece of a planet when you have nil skills in planetary engineering, or worse yet I repeat, when the are more crucial problems the world faces. Efficient renewable energy for instance ?

even if colonizing a new world was possible, it would soon degrade like this one unless man can become a new person.

vickyO: correct guy. Thanks for the explanation.

Thank God.

ATMC: Hello

Hi.

wiegraf: Smart only with a few tasks, overall I still remain an a$$ mostly. Just a few days earlier and we'd be birthday mates btw. Us early saggis are the chosen ones. May you have many more ever polite and iconoclastic years to come.

why do you enjoy being an as$?

aManFromMars: But somehow, Adam made good and perfect sinned. Go figure.

yup, adam became bad.

Nice comeback shaa.

frosbel: reconcile your interpretation with :

"And they will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind." - Isaiah 66:24

^^
Jesus quoted from this scripture bang on, and this was referring to dead bodies , except you want to religiously twist this one as well.




"I will bring you to a horrible end and you will be no more. You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign LORD." - Ezekiel 26:21
^^
The devil and his demons will be no more, or what does 'no more' mean in your religious dictionary ?




"And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the LORD of hosts." - Malachi 4:3
^^
The wicked will be burnt to ashes and that's it, bingo, no more - good riddance to those who plague this planet with evil.





what was your question again ?

you're the one religiously twisting scripture sir. And how does this answer my question? How will worms continue to torment dead bodies forever and ever? How will the fire keep on raging on people who have been obliterated?

aManFromMars: Listen. What goes on in your head stays in your head. How you view the world doesn't affect a nigger in Cuba. Everyone has different experiences and based on these reasons choose to believe whatever it is they believe. If you were born Muslim, you'd be bowing your head and singing Allah's praise. Don't fall into the fallacy that you're the good guy on earth because of your subjective beliefs. You just make unnecessary generalisations and ask useless questions.

I seriously listen to as much people as I can. when did I say that I'm the good guy on earth?

I'm just a sinner saved by grace nwanne.
The reason the message pricks the heart of all is because of the generality of sin. And the reality of salvation.
The question is not useless.

aManFromMars: Do good people not lie? Can good people do bad things?

liars lie. Good people do good things man, that they're good . Bad people do bad things. How many lies will one tell before he is called a liar? How many times will one steal before he's a thief?

Nawa o.

Good people do good things, bad people do bad things.

OLAADEGBU: My frenemy, stop pretending and come out of your hiding place. Tell us that you are fronting for evangelical atheists so that we know how to pray for you.

aManFromMars: Your delusions, your choice. You're good at asking meaningless questions,

nonsense. Good cop out.

You cannot answer a meaningful answer to any of those questions that's why.

[quote author=frosbel][/quote]the kingdom is good news for the saved, bad news for the wicked.

frosbel: that's what it is :

"creation of warped human minds"

Jesus must have had a warped human mind then?

Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 44 where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’ 45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 46 where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’ 47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire— 48 where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’



John the baptist too:

Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

Why will the fire not quench? Why won't the fire go off after it has served its purpose of "obliteration"?

Why will the fire keep burning for eternity when everyone in it has already been obliterated and it is empty?

frosbel: You contradicted yourself on the same sentence. You said the wages of sin is death and then tormented forever and ever.




No, I will preach as Paul preached, as Peter preached, as the early church preached , as Jesus preached etc - Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.


If you want to go and shout about a non-existent place, that's your prerogative, but I assure you that you are on your own and not in any form or shape representing the God of the bible.

the human spirit is not obliterated.

Preaching repent for the kingdom of God is at hand is preaching escape the wrath to come.

Acts 24:25 Now as he reasoned about righteousness, self-control, and the judgment to come, Felix was afraid and answered, “Go away for now; when I have a convenient time I will call for you.”

Godly sorrow leads to repentance sir.

I do not say preach hell fire preaching, I say preach the kingdom of God is at hand

Mintayo: i thought ours is just to speak the word,as in preach and the Spirit of God do the convinction.

I believe there is a difference between convince and convict?

Frosbel and co. You keep comparing time with timelessness. The wages of sin is death. The evil and wicked man will be cast into the lake of fire where they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. That is the harsh reality of the matter.

Do good to shout in the streeets that mankind should escape the damnation and terrible wrath to come.

aManFromMars: Oh I wish you knew.



Lol, this shows your lack of exposure. Sorry to say. Seems the only good people you've met in life are Christians.

good? Please what is your basis of "good" are you a good person?

Please is a liar a good person? Or a thief? Or someone ruled by anger? An adulterer? Are these good characters?

When can you call someone good.
What actually comes to your head as you read this? Your faults and moral flaws?

There is none that is good.

The reason I advocate the real deal of Christ jesus is because it is the most honest and real time solution to mans problems. Millions testify, including me, of its power to change a man into a loving machine and a self-less machine.

So how are you good and not mankinds enemy? Do you not spite the God who holds the answer to our problems of immorality and evil? Do you not distract us from our problems by your preaching of godlessness? What has godlessness done to solve mans problems?