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nnofaith: we didnt write the bible! blame the holy spirit for the bad editing, lack of clarity and worst of all, not proof reading before publishing the BS

aManFromMars: And that, my friend, is for you to figure out. Maybe he had multiple personality disorder seeing he's a 3 in one being. Can be quite confusing know which of himselfs he is talking with or through.

nnofaith: that is why i said there is no method to the madness in the bible.

nnofaith: @josh
just give up. there is no method to the madness in the bible. hide under "it is an allegator" or something!

aManFromMars: What else does slave mean?



Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:
If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly


And in your desperation to clear a God who is unwilling to answer for his crimes, remember this

Rev. 22:18
And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book.

Careful, brah.

aManFromMars: Of course, as a hypocrite and Yahweh slave, you're OBLIGATED to ignore the living and save the unborn.

aManFromMars: The same God that didn't encourage slavery? Omg.

Kay 17: You are approbating and reprobating at the same time, which is it? You seem to disagree God sanctioned the kidnap of virgins for the purpose of mere safekeeping, and later claiming to "keep for themselves" is not rape.

Excellent, you just showed how an action -- Murder has two different faces/purpose. To God, Murder is justifiable as long as it serves as a method of punishment. And what delineates that is intent/purpose.

aManFromMars: God declaring judgment on a people or prophecy?


May your sister and mother be kept as spoils of war. Animal. What were they used for if not to fulfill their 5exual fantasies?. May God send you to war and ask you to keep innocent women as wives. And this is the same foool that HAS love for zygotes.

You are truly ignorant.

aManFromMars: Hypocrite. You claim to love kids, but I've not seen a single post of yours defending the kids that are labelled witches in Nigeria. They're out of the womb, so it isn't your problem?

aManFromMars: \

And btw, you're proof that only fools believe in God, not the other way round.

Enjoy your butthurt. The verses I posted speak for themselves.





For once, you ignore the text and cast aspersions on my character. Goot, goot, we're getting somewhere.

Logicboy03: And if the woman is poor with no relatives to take care of the baby? What if she lives in a place with poorly run orphanages?

Adoption and orphamages are other options but they arent avalable always.

aManFromMars: Show how I quoted it out of context, you ignorant liar. Motherfucking slave.

Evil Brain: If your god doesn't have a problem with killing 70% of all fertilized eggs (the remaining 30% includes live births, stillbirth and induced abortions) I don't see why you should be complaining. And this is the same God that drowned all of humanity and was slaughtering men, women and children throughout the old testament. Clearly killing babies is not against the christian religion.

Evil Brain: A zygote is just one cell. You can fit something like 40,000 of them on the head of a pin. At best it's a potential human and no more. It needs another person to make significant sacrifices and bear risks to her body to turn it into a full human. If a woman doesn't want to provide such services, she can not and should not be forced to. Women are not cattle, despite Christianity and Islam's efforts to make them that.

Evil Brain: People stop treating unconscious people all the time, mostly for financial reasons. It is a well established principle that nobody can be risk his/her own life or wellbeing for someone else. If a mother is willing to damage her body to carry a baby to term, then good for her. If she doesn't want to risk her life, then she shouldn't be forced to. Your body, your rules.

Evil Brain: I strongly suspect that I have forgotten more about human cloning than you will ever know.
You should probably look through my posting history before you challenge me in any of the biological sciences. Or any type of science, period.

Evil Brain: Yes Hitler didn't come up at all. You only started by talking about the holocaust which clearly has nothing to do with Hitler at all. It's completely unrelated. /s

aManFromMars: Zechariah 14:1-2 ESV
Behold, a day is coming for the Lord, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14
“When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves. And you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you.

Logicboy03: What about lot who gave his daugjters to Hot strangers? LOt was regarded as a holy man by God

Kay 17: If you had read from the beginning of Joshua 21, you wld have discovered that the Israelites consulted with God (by throwing lots), prior to taking their further actions.

The 400 virgins from Jabesh gilead, were captives and are to be married obviously forcefully.

In the Midianite raid, Numbers 23, Moses speaking on behalf of God as he had always done, ordered the Israelites to raid and destroy the Midianites, kill off the population and preserve virgins girls amongst them. And KEEP the virgins for themselves. Ie virgins are items of use.

At least murder in your eyes is an absolute evil.

Logicboy03: Joshthefirst is already a slow person....no need to waste my time on him.

This abortion debate pains me because christians talk about real life based on a book rather than basing it on the outcomes in reality.

Texanomaly, while you are being praised bEcause of ur liberal views on abortion, youi are only halfway there.

Abortion is a womans right. Just because u dont want to do something, it doesnt gove u the right to force others not to do it.

The simple argument for abortion is that it is better for a woman to abort a foetus which is only a potential human, than for the woman to live with a child that she will put in hardship and probably kill due to her inability to raise the child.


Jst look at africa.....women having children that later die of starvation.

Texanomaly belives that its better for the children to wonder abouit starving to death rather than a mother aborting a 3 week feotus.

There is a woman who killed her child in the usa so that she could party. She got away woth the crime because of the difficulty of lack of proper evidence. She never wanted to have the baby but after being forced not to have an abortion, she killed the infant.


Btw, only a tool would compare abortion to the nazi holocaust

Kay 17: I enjoyed Wiegraf's explanation and there is no better example, than to draw some examples/quiz from the bible.

Josh and texa both believe rap.e is an absolute evil, yet if God orders molestation, as in Judges 21 verses 12 and 19 - 23.

Smae with Numbers 31, 17 - 18. Note that pious men obey regardless of what is demanded from them same as Abraham.

My point is simply, an action can have two sides which is contrary to the universal morality.

Evil Brain: As many as 70% of all pregnancies spontaneously abort. Mother nature (or if you like, God) is the world's greatest abortionist.

Evil Brain: The reason this isn't a big deal is that a clump of cells is not equivalent to a human being. If it doesn't have a brain, or a nervous. system; then it's not a person.

Evil Brain: If it isn't self aware and can't think or feel; then it isn't a human being. This is not difficult to understand so I can't see why you religious people insist on being so obtuse.

Evil Brain: It is now possible to clone human beings from almost any cell in the body. Following your argument, that means every time you you wipe your ynash, you're flushing hundreds of thousands of potential humans down the toilet. You are killing millions of babies every day, you are worse than the Nazis.

Evil Brain: Also, OP lost this argument since the first post. Google "Godwins Law."

wiegraf: Bros, I don't know if you realize what you're doing or if you're simply disingenuous. Look at that bolded word. Look at it well.. Try your very bestesetestest to think about it...

So you're saying a woman not willing to commit to caring for a human being, a huge, HUGE responsibility, should make that potential a reality? Why? I am not willing to get my head chopped off yet I should place my head in a guillotine?

As for your talk of zygotes, again, who are you to decide they are termed human beings? The zygote itself cannot become a human without the mother's resources, just as a sperm cell cannot eventually become a human without resources from the egg. It's.the.very.same thing. Cells, or life (as they are alive) requiring resources to grow into organisms; humans.

And on another note, you do know mother nature, not mothers, is responsible for most zygotes never completing the journey, yes?

[b]Personally, I don't. What gives you that impression?



Again, wtf do you see human beings being murdered? It's called abort-ion for a reason, yes? One you acknowledge above; they aren't humans yet, simply potential. In fact, you acknowledge it here again, look at the bolded words...

As for your usage of the word "well", well... Do show me how a zygote is capable of becoming human without the woman's body actively building it. Show me a zygote that assembles itself please.

You know what, all those scientists trying to build AI should be jailed once they stop development. How dare they stop developing when it was well on its way to becoming self aware?! Or any scientist daring to clone but aborting for whatever reason, even ethical ones. Actually, all the sperm, eggs, stored in banks etc, those that are discarded.... How dare they?! Ah, stem cells..

Anyways, if you insist on their turning that potential into a reality, then I do hope you take responsibility and adopt all those babies. If you don't, frankly, you're a sick, sadistic bast.ard. Creating humans needlessly to come and suffer and/or wreck lives.

And again, take up the mantle for all those other cells that don't make it to becoming human, eg the sperm cells.

Also, you do realize that brain dead people have their switches pulled, all the time?

Have to get to work...for now..[/b]

peterphd: What do your Abrahamic islamists do to gays? I didn't say there's a hormone for being gay. Isn't it a kind of genetic or hormonal misinformation that makes people gay? Its your God that is responsible.

obadiah777: ok if you insist. but keep in mind all i do is suggest to the super-mods. fingers crossed

obadiah777: bros you cant stop the killing of anybody. you are not God.

deut 32 vs 39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

abeg make you lef matter for mathias. suggest another thread i promise to push it forward

obadiah777: well thats all well and good but that dont mean you have to support their cause. is there not like a million causes in nigeria that you can be championing ? why israelis ?

wiegraf: I do know some things, and very clearly so, one being that there is absolutely no human there. Human beings, among many other things, have brains which they use, sometimes in ingenious ways, to out fox and bully the other species on this rock. Said brains are responsible for a lot of things that constitute the makeup of a human being, eg consciousness. Do show me the zygote's brain.

You are the one who seems to think that a group of cells = a human, yet mysteriously exclude sperm cells from your definition. I'm going to have to ask you why?


Note, I also know that abortion ultimately isn't about this, it's about a woman's right to do as she feels with her body, simple. But I'm indulging you just for now.



It is selfish to assume what you regard as selfish is regarded as selfish by everyone else. Very much so. And in case you didn't notice, we aren't talking about babies here, so I fail to see the relevance. But if you want an answer, for reasons I would consider selfish, I would say no obviously.

obadiah777: bros lets deal with reality and not fantasy. you are a black man from west africa. fork the israelis. or you want me to produce the videos of how they are treating our black brothers in their land ?

obadiah777: you do know that these jewish people sponsored the west african slave trade right ? you know, the real holocaust where 100 million blacks died on the ships on the way to the americas. now thats the real holocaust not no dayum holohoax

obadiah777: but ermm you do know these people hate us right ? why are you championing their cause ? nobody cares about israelis. come with another thread o jare and i will suggest it to the supermods for you. gaddem israelis

obadiah777: okay boss. is the story real though ?
some have said it is the jewish holohoax

Joshthefirst: Mods. Front page please. This is the first time I recommend a thread for front page. Its very important.

https://www.nairaland.com/1508277/murder-murder-holocaust

Thersa: If you are proudly catholic....kindly like this page...https://www.facebook.com/pages/Love-Being-a-Practicing-Catholic/245960532227926

Lets unite to strengthen our faith.

God bless you all.

wiegraf: There's no such thing as skydaddy. Please show me where? And do not try some silly hedging, or are you saying that children are not full human beings? That asides, that's exactly what I'm asking you.

Who are you to state that the zygote is the boundary?

wiegraf: Why in the world do you consider a zygote a developing human being whilst ignore that sperm cells are precisely the same thing?

And also, note your language, developing human being. In other words, they are not human beings yet, yes?