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Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 1:16pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
JackBizzle:lol An arithmetic VALUE OR SYMBOL representing a [bbPARTICULAR[/b] quantity. Infinity is not a real number. Smh lb. Please just google it. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 5:06am On Feb 22, 2017 |
Here's the definition of a number from basic google: number ˈnʌmbə/ noun 1. an arithmetical value, expressed by a word, symbol, or figure, representing a particular quantity and used in counting and making calculations. "think of a number from one to ten and multiply it by three" synonyms: numeral, integer, figure, digit; More 2. a quantity or amount. "the company is seeking to increase the number of women on its staff" synonyms: amount, quantity; More Please read and apply it to further arguments so that I will not be wasting my time. 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 5:03am On Feb 22, 2017 |
JackBizzle: English logicboy. That a number's has no clear decimal value does not mean it is undefined. Its value is still 22/7. It can be polated and reduced by other definite numbers. 1/0 is not a number. Infinity is a number. The infinity symbol ∞ (sometimes called the lemniscate) is a mathematical symbol representing the concept of infinity.I'm not your math teacher. And google is your friend. If it is defined, why cant it be expressed in decimals?Because it is irrational. Doesn't mean it has no definite value. Note definite value. It's value simply cannot be expressed except as a whole. Here is another example of an undefined numberzero/zero is not really a number. It is an ARITHMETIC PROCESS that has no value at all, cannot be reduced etc. 22/7 can be reduced by other numbers and processes. Infact, a number, by nature is always defined. There is no number that is undefined, so your argument has been pointless from the beginning. Try and go deeper than mindless wiki searching, at least think about what you read in results. Giving me 0/0 as an undefined number is quite unfortunate of you. Why are you just funny?Who's funny? I'm trying so hard not to debase you. Simple mathematical processes and basic definitions are beyond you. This is the problem with you people. You claim to uphold science yet you don't know basic science. Pathetic. Is simple philosophy beyond your reasoning? Is it not longer to travel up and down as compared to travelling only up?Mtchew. An Infinite journey as used here, is infinitely long. So this question has no sense. An infinite journey, many infinite infinite journeys, they are all endless in the same way. Greater christian and atheist philosophers have struggled with the omnipotence paradox. A random third world doctor (you) is only deceiving himself if he thinks he can just call it "nonsense"What is this? What have you demonstrated here apart from a low grasp of mathematics and a redundant reasoning? When you and your cohorts show that you're smarter than me at least then you can go ahead and appeal to a greater authority if you want. You don't even know what a number is. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 6:13pm On Feb 21, 2017 |
johnydon22:Infinity I speak of is not in the numerical sense. to make this better for you, give me an example of a number that is undefined. God is not limitless in a numerical sense, he is limitlessness in an undefined sense. He himself has given you a numerical definition of himself. He is THREE persons, one God. So using numerical arguments out of the context of my reasoning is stewpid. 5 Likes 4 Shares |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 6:04pm On Feb 21, 2017 |
JackBizzle: No. you are not reasoning logically. every number is defined. don't get ahead of yourself. numbers are boundless doesn't mean they are undefined. I would argue that infinity itself is a number. There is a symbol for itThis is idi.otic. Infinity is not a number. To give you a practical example of inifinity being a number, just take the simple division of 22/7 or the symbol called "pi" π.Pi is simply an irrational number. it cannot be expressed as a fraction of whole numbers. That does not mean it is undefined. It is defined. pi is 22/7 Limitless can increase. You can multiply 2 infinites. For example, let us assume that the universe is infinite in all directions. If I try to travel to the top of the universe, I would not get there because it would take me an infinite time to get to the top of the universe which is infinite. If I then plan a second journey to the bottom of the universe, that would add an infinity to another infinity- it would take longer to go to the top and then backwards to the bottom.No. It would not take longer, because the time measured is indefinite, as the distance cannot be measured. the distance is undefined, therefore the time is also undefined. this is simple logical reasoning. The problem with this your infinite God is that infinity does not exist in the real world. It is a contradiction. Something can be infinitely big but can still be bigger. Can God make a God more powerful than himself? The apparent contradiction is soo clear. What if God gives birth to God 2.0? A self-refuting contradiction. Infinity is a vital part of our reality. Our universe is a subset of infinite parameters, literally, rationally. Something cannot be infinitely big and still bigger, that doesn't make any sense, numerically it may, but not in the sense I speak of. As for the bolded, your premise is already destroyed and you're talking nonsense. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:19pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
JackBizzle:Sorry, thought I had already. JackBizzle:It's logical reasoning. Simple logic even defeats that statement- numbers are boundless in to ways- they can be infinitely increased or decreased- you can keep adding up or subtracting down. To suggest that there can be only one boundless entity is myopic in thought.Numbers are not boundless. Every number has a definition, and can be quantified. That numbers increase is nothing special. With each increase there is a limit and quantification. Infinity itself, is not a number. And can numerically never be reached. A vital point. JackBizzle:Here, you give me leverage for another vital point. Infinity multiplied is still infinity, from any perspective. You could say the same about Trinity. God may be revealed as multiple persons, but he remains God. Limitless And when you think about it, limitless cannot increase, or be reduced. It simply is. JackBizzle:I like that movie. |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 4:00pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
thehomer:You misunderstand. God has revealed himself as three persons. And when I say he is the sum total of all existence, I don't mean all fractions and niches of existent verities add up to him. I mean existence itself and everything in our reality is contained in him. He is boundless and everything. A being who is "everything" cannot be duplicated, as the very definition of his presence takes up limitless infinity. thehomer:As I have said, I don't mean our collective consciousness equals God. I mean God's limitlessness contains all of existence and reality. |
Religion / Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:33am On Feb 16, 2017 |
Great thread Ebus! 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Why Die? by Joshthefirst(m): 7:59pm On Feb 14, 2017 |
Why did jackbizzle? Plaetton? Pastoraio? God takes no pleasure in the death of anyone. Choose grace, Choose life, and live. This is God's heart: The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10 KJV Do you want to have a taste of Real life? Meet Jesus! |
Religion / Re: An ATHEIST Has A Very High Possibility of Mental Illness Researches Reveal by Joshthefirst(m): 12:45pm On Feb 13, 2017 |
foladara777:smh. |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 4:46pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
thehomer:God is revealed as a community of three persons, yet one being. The very definition of God's nature shows that he is the sum total of all existence and all reality. This obviously means that every form of existence that is manifest in reality is a subunit of his boundless limitlessness. There can't be any other being that exists as God, because this ultimate being(God) is the sum total of existence. Any other personality revealed will be the same being. God has revealed himself as three persons, A Father, a Son, and a Spirit. Simple. |
Religion / Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by Joshthefirst(m): 4:40pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
JackBizzle:To reply the bolded, a boundless entity is not duplicated. As God is everything and eternity, there can be no other being taking up any extra reality apart from him, as he himself is reality. any other personality will be the same being from a different perspective. God has revealed hi self in three persons to us, one being a man, Christ Jesus. Take it like that. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: How Atheists Handle Morality In The Absence Of God by Joshthefirst(m): 4:32pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
plaetton:If Morality evolves then we are doomed to conform to any authority that defines good or bad in the ages. Morality is an objective standpoint that is God himself. |
Religion / Re: Ye Are Gods, All Of You, All 100 Trillion Of You. by Joshthefirst(m): 4:25pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Plaetton was truly confused in a profound manner to have posted this nonsense. I can't believe I took good time to try to argue with him. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Holism Vs Reductionism: Is There A Conflict? by Joshthefirst(m): 4:20pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:lol |
Religion / Re: Logic, Language, Topology, Joshthefirst by Joshthefirst(m): 4:05am On Nov 10, 2016 |
PastorAIO:sorry. Got really busy really fast. Should be on later to refute you |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:23pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
PastorAIO: DeepSight: You guys are still hilarious after all these years. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:11pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Of course. I've been logical in this matter from the start. Carefully explaining my communication with no solid reply from you apart from puerile attacks like this and looking for a play on words and loopholes in my conversation and mockery. If you are an embittered and troubled man I can't do much to help you on the net. Nairaland isn't a good place for troubled people. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:05pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
PastorAIO:How does this state a point contains the universe? Are you mad? Even your definition has nothing to do with supporting your earlier nonsense speculation. When faced with sound logical thinking you come up with idiot.ic falsehood and musings to counter concur and buffer your own embracing of randomized directionlessness thinking. Well-done. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 7:38pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Mathematically speaking the universe was once a point. No where does maths state a point contains the entire universe. Dont start spouting falsehood in your directionlessness sir. With logical thought, outside of our physical reality and it's dimensions is a transcendent infinity; God's presence in pervasive limitlessness. Asking if God can create a greater consciousness is an illogical question. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 6:04pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:I pointed out that what he said was powerful and satisfying because I had pondered and come to realize those things myself, only to be inspired even more when someone with more influence said same. I'm now quite sure you have some comprehension problems. You probably never read the OP completely. Very funny when the group of you concur. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 5:58pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Perhaps you're talking nonsense and postulating. Have I ever sounded like I was theorizing in what I have said so far? No. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 12:39pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
stephendamsoho:No it is not. Is there a greatness bigger than everything in reality? |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 10:46pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
JackBizzle:We all find others blockheads in certain areas. Some people are found to be blockheads in almost all areas. (You should know I'm talking about you). I don't care what anyone's opinion of me is much, especially yours. (I like marsman shaa). I already know DS is deist, and I pray he becomes Christian too. Maybe you need another false sabbatical from here and a new moniker. Be sure to announce yourself as loftily as you normally do. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 10:37pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
lepasharon:Did you in any way attempt to understand what I said? |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 8:00pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
Kay17:They have nothing to do with the axioms of existence. Evil and good are simply characters of action and thought. Conscious beings of free agency will have a potential for evil, which must be dealt with. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 7:44pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
DeepSight: Don't waste time going back and forth with logicboy sir. You have proved your point astutely to those who can read and comprehend english. Especially with this:
DeepSight: Thank you very much deepsight. God's self existence is only difficult to grasp by those who choose to be blockheads and refuse to apply themselves to logical reasoning. To me, the fact of his self existent may not be completely understood, but it is the destiny of my logical thinking, and a fact of reality based on the nature of creation itself. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 7:32pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
lepasharon:God permeates all in reality. Everything about infinite reality beyond universe conception is 'contained' in him, so your question is not feasible in the first place. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:28pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
Kay17:Evil(the nature of and act of evil) is an outcome of free agency. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:18pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin:Yeah. It was all in a genuine effort to urge men to abandon foolishness and pride and embrace truth. To open their eyes and stop closing them in rebellious tantrum. |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:17pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
lepasharon:Can you read and deduce that information by yourself? |
Religion / Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 9:10pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Once again I have to condescend to plain stupid.idity and explain gently to you the essence of my communication since you aren't the only one to bring it up. when I said ordinary 'nounish' issues, I was referring to what you said here: PastorAIO: I was trying to let you get my point, I still am. You ask if I am foolish, but the fact is that I feel closest to foolish when I try to explain simple matters to people like you, who would go as far as feigning idiocy to look for loopholes in my conversation. 1 Like |
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