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achorladey:
"WE ALL AGREE the ONE HOPE IS EVERLASTING LIFE" so you know. Why are YOU BOTHERING me with WHERE DESTINATION of the HOPE will be. Did Titus tell us about WHERE we will SPEND the DESTINATION?

I dey talk about LOCUST BEANS you dey TALK about TAIL. Hahahahahahaha.

Na toddler you SEE no worry na KINDERGARTEN you go SEE.

When one rest his HOPE on the CORNERSTONE that was rejected. The scriptures states CLEARLY that cornerstone NEVER DISAPPOINT. Jesus dey DRIVE, you talk sey FEAR DEY CATCH you. Hahahahaha.

No be to continue to FOLLOW AM. Hahahahaha.

Abi Jesus na FOOLISH PERSON? Ahahahaaha.

You are very much aware that if we go into where the everlasting life will be spent, Jehovah's witnesses are CORRECT.

And who tell you Jesus didn't reveal the destination of where it would be spent in the Revelation he gave to John at Revelation 21:3,4 and His discussion with Nichidemus in John 3:6 ?

Maybe you are spiritually blind to not see Jesus has sorted everything already

Ken4Christ:
Thank God you agreed that the scripture says that Jesus went to hell. That means you now believe there is hell.

Jesus went to hell because of you and me. Our sins were laid on him when he died on the cross. This is what delivered us from the powers of darkness. But anyone who rejects God's plan of salvation will go there. It is not God who sends you to hell but your decision did.

If hell is a place of torment , Was Jesus tormented in hell ? That's the question.

Job in his comment was not talking about hell but about dead which he used the grave to represent. It was better if he was dead than to go through the affliction he was going through.

You are so ignorant that the same word translated Hell for Jesus was translated grave there ? What is KJV hiding that it can't say HELL for Job too ?

Here is another version that lay it bare

Job 14:13 Douay Rheims

" that thou mayest protect me in hell, and hide me till thy wrath pass, "

Why would Job pray to go to Hell, if it's a place of torment ?

As for the mention of the sea, some dead bodies are lost in the sea that could not be buried either through plane crash or those who got drowned. On judgment day, their souls will be reunited with their bodies in the sea and they be resurrected for final judgment.

Their souls are in the sea NOT hell ( Rev 20;13 ) it was differentiated.

Why would some souls be in the sea if hell is the home of the wicked ?

Please, you have seen enough proof that hell is real. Stop this argument and believe the gospel. Stop false teachings and persuade lost souls to receive Jesus as their Lord and personal Saviour and warn them of the doom that awaits all who reject Jesus. Hell is real but there is a final place of torture known as the Lake of Fire which is worse than hell.

Hell is like a cell where those who reject Christ will be kept until final judgment day. After final conviction, they will be thrown into the Lake of fire. And they will swim in liquid fire for the rest of their lives.

You watch too much Nollywood, Is it ordinary soul that go to hell or Soul and Body ??
Xpose your ignorance more

Revelation 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. note

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

So " Death " thrown into lake of fire means it will be tormented forever ?

achorladey:
Oga we don't need EXPLANATION on MEANING of EVERLASTING LIFE neither did we ASK you WHERE the EVERLASTING LIFE will be SPENT.

Na the ONE HOPE Oga Barristter07! I am not DIVERTING.

Someone explain where they will be spent and you shout two hope, When you have no clue about the subject u entering.

achorladey:
Oga Jozzy4 TWO HOPES is what YOU BELIEVE. Don't hide UNDER John 3:6 and Revelation 21:3,4. Read and read and read those scriptures 1000 times OVER, you cannot ONE HOPE inside it neither can YOU FORCE EVERLASTING life into it. Last last na "RELATED" or the "ABOUT" palaver. Hhahahahahahaha

You made a claim, Why not explain the two verses and how it doesn't address the hope of everlasting life ?

For how long will God's tent dwell with mankind ? Will they ever die again ? " death will be no more " if that's not everlasting life, What is it ?


That which become a Spirit like God, Will they ever die ? If that's not everlasting life, tell me what it is .


Toddler

achorladey:

Now is Your TURN to bother me with where EVERLASTING LIFE WILL BE SPENT. Is Titus 1:2 about where they WILL SPENT everlasting life or the ONE HOPE. Hahaahahaha!

Last last na ASSUMPTIONS and SPECULATIONS. The reason your brother is FORCING HOPE and EVERLASTING LIFE into John 3:6 and Revelation 21:3,4 in order to preach TWO HOPES last last. This CORNER CORNER must WORK.

That response already proved the point. You are ignorant, Reason like a toddler indeed , When you are ready to tell where the one hope will be spent . We will know .

We all agree the one hope is everlasting life . Where will the everlasting life be spent ? Mars , Space , Jupiter ? Only a Foolish human won't bother about where it would be spent, You just trying to play smart, you know going there will lock your mouth forever .

Jozzy4:
Why are you so scared to give a reply, You well know it would end your noisemaking... Rev 21:3,4 and John 3:6 is about the hope of everlasting life/living forever. Yes or no ?

Cc: acholadey .

achorladey:
Hahahahaha IT'S not RELATED but ABOUT hahahahaaha.

You could have showed us the EVERLASTING LIFE and the ONE HOPE in those scriptures. You don't even need to tell us to STOP making NOISE. We will on our OWN keep QUIET. So since you we are still MAKING noise do the NEEDFUL Oga to n mu NOISEMAKER on Nairaland.

Until you show us the ONE HOPE and EVERLASTING LIFE in those two scriptures. You must TEACH your TWO HOPES by FORCE.

Am glad you can't answer, Continue to evade , The question will always haunt you. For clarification
Everlasting life is to live forever, Agree ?

achorladey:
what does THESE mean oooooooo and what DOES THIS mean.

Matthew 24: 29-34



29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until ALL THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED . "

A) Is verse 29-31 not part of the all things ?

achorladey
Jesus said "this generation " not 'that generation' or 'those generations' and "this generation" was his own generation. History demonstrates his words were true .

B) When did the Color parts happened in history ?

Ken4Christ:
You didn't answer my questions. Instead you are making irrelevant comments. If hell is grave, why did the psalmist said it is the wicked that will go there?

Why did the same psalmist say Messiah will go there ? Is Jesus wicked ? ( Psalm. 16:10)

As for David talking about the sorrows of hell, he was talking prophetically about Jesus. Jesus went to hell so you will not need to go if you believe in him. Hence Acts 2:27-31 said,

27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. note

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

If Jesus went to hell, Were the ropes of hell or torment of hell surrounding Jesus ? Was he tormented like David explained in 2Samuel 22:6 ?

Three, Hell is for the wicked, why was Jesus tormented there too if he is a man without sin ?

@ Job 14:13 , Job also prayed to go to the same Hell, to be tormented ?

If you like, look for ways to twist the scripture just to win an argument. Hell has opened his mouth wide and ready to receive people like you who turn the truth of God into a lie. Then your memory will remind you of this day someone try to persuade you. But it will be too late. It's your choice. Continue to suppress the inner voice which tries to persuade you that hell is real but your head cannot take it.

Why are those in the SEA not in Hell if it's a place for the wicked ? Rev 20:13 . This area is important

achorladey:
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The RELATED RELATED STORIES I guess? Hahahahahahaha?
I demand an answer ko, I supply an answer you see. Hahahahahah [/s] .

Why are you so scared to give a reply, You well know it would end your noisemaking... Rev 21:3,4 and John 3:6 is about the hope of everlasting life/living forever. Yes or no ?

emmyboy162:
The second comment in the image just shows how dumb some females are.

As in ehnnnnn

franchasng:
No man fancies this nonsense, the guy is just trying not to make her look bad but deep down his heart, he isn't completely fulfilled.


He is just following her trend for peace to reign, not that this makes him fulfilled as a married man, and if you doubt me, wait until they have some marital disagreement....wasn't Tonto Dikeh crazier than this in her own time and everybody thought Churchill was fulfilled in the marriage Some men never learn sha

You are wise

achorladey:
This is WHERE the word "RELATED" led you TO.

You are the one TELLING me STORIES from John 3:6 and Revelation 21:3,4. The stories I didn't ask for.

God himself told those stories found in those scritures, I demand an answer : Are those stories related to his promise of Everlasting life ? A yes or no would do

Jessicha:
Men . Men live where ?


God is Spirit too.
Spirits live where?

Sense you no get at all .

Captivator, Jozzy4 abeg continue to ignore this slanderer

He is too dull to be discussed with, please ignore him , you are too intelligent to go that low. Don't even read his comments , as for your questions from those verses He can't answer any , Neither will his small thinking allow him know God dwells with men forever/everlasting and individuals with the hope of becoming Spirits live with God as Spirit forever/everlasting too .

achorladey:
I told you, yours is "RELATED" while your friend is "BASED" same TACTICS same OUTCOME.

Enough of the story
A simple yes or no would do, Is Rev 21:3,4 and John 3:6 related to EVERLASTING LIFE ?

achorladey:
Are you asking me that? Is my discussion based on those scriptures? Okay pick out EVERLASTING LIFE in those TWO scriptures?

You will end up like your friend who started by SAYING the everlasting life is based on NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH. Hahahahaahah.

A simple yes or no would do, Is Rev 21:3,4 and John 3:6 related to the promised hope of everlasting life ?

achorladey:
You dey disturb yourself oooooooo, you are still giving EXPLANATION. Pick out the ONE HOPE in those scriptures cited?

Tell us if those scriptures are not related to everlasting life .

achorladey:
Titus 1:2 Good

Is Rev 21:3,4 and John 3:6 related to everlasting life ?

achorladey:
you go see answer now, pick out THE ONE HOPE in those SCRIPTURES this is not a case of IF YOU THINK.

The one hope is everlasting life, agree ?

achorladey:
so that you can preach your TWO in ONE or TWO HOPES Hahahahaha. Titus 1:2 still stand gidigba.


Until you show the HOPE in those TWO SCRIPTURES you cited . I keep waiting as well.

I already did that .
Living forever on earth as Humans - Everlasting life ? Rev 21:3,4

Becoming " Spirits " like God , - everlasting life ? John 3:6

Your own is to prove that they living in heaven or earth is not in anyway related to everlasting life

achorladey:
How many HOPE does Christians have according to Titus 1:2? Explain what? Is Revelation 21:3,4 and John 3:6 about the ONE HOPE. Hahahahahaha.

See question, see question .
Yes, If you think they are not about the hope of everlasting life , prove it !!!

CAPTIVATOR:
Prove that both scriptures cited by Jozzy4 are outside the one hope of everlasting life ooooo ?

Am waiting for him to prove both scriptures are not related to everlasting life .

achorladey:
Oga the discussion is based on ONE HOPE or A HOPE as recorded in Titus 1:2. How many HOPE do CHRISTIANS have? Don't think you will DIVERT this into something ELSE.

The other thread you will still bring the FUMBLE out.

Okay explain Revelation 21:3,4 and John 3:6 ?

I just want to know if they are outside the one single hope of Everlasting life.

achorladey:
Na Paul Grundy you see Hahahahaha.

Oga Titus 1:2 is still there to read. Did you see it recorded there that THE ONE HOPE means they ARE ENJOYING EVERLASTING LIFE ON EARTH or HEAVEN.

style style you want to PREACH two HOPES just as you were TAUGHT. No wonder your brother said it is BASED on HEAVEN or EARTH. hahahaaha!

Will Humans live forever on earth according to Rev 21:3,4 ?

Will some people become Spirits to go to heaven ? " What is born of spirit IS SPIRIT "

Entertain the two questions and lets see if it's Outside the Hope of everlasting life .

Can you try ? Don't fumble like you did on the other thread .

Have watched your comments, You are a very Ignorant fellow claiming to be in the know . I really pity those who see you as mentor.

Ken4Christ:
Please, do this assignment for me, look for every Scripture translated hell and replace them with grave and see if it makes sense to you. I will just quote a few of them. There are about 65 scriptures translated hell in the King James version of the Bible.

Are you also aware the same word Sheol translated hell is used at Eccl 9:10 ' [Sheol - Hell ] where you are going ' KJV says Grave to hide itself from the embarrassment, but same Hebrew word


Do you agree every human is going to hell according to this verse ?

No 1
Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Let's replace the word hell with grave and see how it sounds.

The wicked shall be turned into grave, and all the nations that forget God.

If the writer means the physical grave we all know, is it only the wicked that is buried in the physical grave?

It therefore means he couldn't be referring to the physical grave here but to a place of torment that only the wicked go to.

If you are right, are you aware those who died in the sea are not in hell ? Rev 20:13

So some wicked people are in the sea, if it's a place of torment why are some wicked people not there ?

No 2
2 Samuel 22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about ; the snares of death prevented me.

If hell is grave, is there sorrow in the grave? I thought you teach that the dead is completely unconscious. So why would an unconscious dead body sorrow. This Scripture also proves that hell is not a physical grave.

That's a quote from King David Psalms, So KING DAVID WILL GO TO HELL ?

No 3
Proverbs 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

The writer of Proverbs is recommending discipline for a child. And he says such discipline will save his soul from hell.

If hell is grave, whether you beat your child or not, he will still be buried there when he dies.

So children now go to hell ? What happen to age of accountability doctrine ?

So If I didn't beat a 3yr old child, the child or baby will go to hell ?

A Dillema for you to solve .

I can go on and on. So please do your own research and be very honest. You don't have to win an argument even when you know you are wrong. If your research confirms the fact that hell is real, please thank me later and flee from that evil organization which has turned the truth of God into a lie.

You have successfully proved that King David is among the wicked that will be turned to hell . Which hell is David going ?

You have also find yourself in a situation where we saw that not all wicked are turned into a place of torment called hell

You have also proved children no matter how small go to hell, is God that wicked ?

slizzyb:
Yes I caused it. I saw all those red light but chose to ignore them. I started taking her out. My anger is dat she accepted on the day I hv made up my mind never to disturb her again and I asked her not to accept me out of pity but she said she truly loved me but on separation day she said it was out of pity..

So sorry bro, that's the sad reality, Some of these ladies compromise their standards and involve pity due to MATERIAL GAINS .

She faked it all because your taking her out she knows will bring some nice time .

Too bad, But I very much believe you have learned from the experience , You are now wiser .

achorladey:
I believe you KNOW what YOU just typed and you equally KNOW WHAT THESE and THIS means.

So when Jesus said THIS GENERATION it means THIS not THOSE and not THAT. It simply means THIS.

Compare and constrast with the use of the ALL THESE THINGS you will know indeed why THIS means THIS.

Okay, Is verse 29-31 not part of the ALL these things that will be fulfilled ? a simple yes or no would do

When was that fulfilled according to your history ?

achorladey:
I believe they KNOW. ONE of them after all cited Ephesians 4:3,4 but the TEACHINGS of the GB is far SUPERIOR than what is contained in the BIBLE. That's why they don't even see themselves as WHEAT just as the GB told taught them, they are still WEEDS. It's until after the 1000 years they WILL become WHEAT.

You are just empty, Running mouth like tap , My question for you on the other thread is still there , you don't know anything, yet you don't want to learn .


Humans will live forever on Earth according to Rev 21:3,4, Are they not enjoying the same single hope of everlasting life ? I don't know paulgrundy ruin you this far

CAPTIVATOR:
Abi , Proverb 26:5 says, ANSWER a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.

Exactly , Humans will live forever on earth and the tent of God will be with them ( Rev 21:3,4 ) simple and clear . They enjoy the same single hope of everlasting life .

rottennaija:
Sure they will.

Good, now let's check if they are anointed.

They will be with Jesus in heaven living an everlasting life or what is called immortality. The great crowd ,

Concerning the great crowd, The tent of God will be with them after coming out of the great tribulation which occur on Earth, I want to believe they came out alive from The great tribulation which occur on earth The same language of God's tent been with them appear at Revelation 21:3,4 , which says " Mankind "" Humans " not Spirit kind, Where does MAN - kind / humans live ?

Do these humans have everlasting life here on Earth or not ?

John the baptist, Abraham etc.

Matthew 11:11 says John the Baptist is not in heaven . Among those born of women ( all on earth) John is greatest, but among those in heaven ( Kingdom of God ) John is not even the least person. After the least person, no one anymore . Clearly he isn't there, so where do you get your theory from ?

Abraham is not born of water and spirit , is he ? Explain to me .

achorladey:
Your TRUE has a question mark does that mean YOU ACCEPT when JESUS said "THIS GENERATION" he REALLY meant "THIS GENERATION" and

NOT

.....THESE GENERATIONS afterall Jesus used ALL "THESE" THINGS.

You are just empty, small question you are perambulating like these .


Is Verse 29-31 not part of the ALL these things ?

So tell me when exactly this was fulfilled in your supposed history ?

CAPTIVATOR:
No actually hope of everlasting life is only for the anointed, even the many UNRIGHTEOUS person's that will be ressurected are also anointed, so even UNRIGHTEOUS person's are anointed . Because everlasting life cannot be given to someone that's not anointed . ( act 24:15)

Am just getting to know unrighteous person's are anointed too, Interesting .


Captivator, Your sarcasm is top notch