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TruthinAction:
Pride will destroy you. You read very well that they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. If this English is difficult to understand, then go back to primary school.

At where ? Lake of fire.

Is death and hell not also thrown into this lake of fire , YET YOU CONFESS THEY WILL EXIST NO MORE !

TruthinAction:
The physical cities don't have souls. They were utterly destroyed physically but the souls of those who were consumed by the fire are in hell.

again , u err , whatever applies to the city applies to the people, according to that bible verse, the CITIES also suffer the punishment of everlasting fire, everlasting fire =total destruction ?

TruthinAction:
Man is made in the image of God. And God does not die so the spirit of man also does not die. Only the physical body dies. The spirit and the soul of man is immortal.

I never asked you this.

You said the beast is a certain human being , and this human went to Lake of fire while still alive, which means this person didn't die the Adamic Death . So my question is: Are you saying the Genesis account that said humans will die as a result of sin is a Lie ? Does this human not also inherit sin ? If this human never dies, do you accept they have everlasting life ? Is everlasting life a gift to wicked people ?

TruthinAction:
Yes for hell and death but no for the lost souls. Hell and death are confinement and not humans that has souls. Lost souls will burn forever. This is what Jesus taught repeatedly. Go and read the gospel again. I can give you over 20 references to confirm this truth. You don't argue with Scripture. It may not make sense to you but it is Scriptural.

If hell and death been thrown into the same lake of fire indicates that THey will no longer exist! You have already explained the meaning of lake of fire. Only inconsistency can get you saying some will not exist and some will exist, when all was said to be in the same Place. Whatever happens to all is uniform

Safitu:
Like I said, rich middle class and poor, men will be men. My problem is not cheating, it’s what most married women deal with anyways. Even the men who are jobless with nothing to offer will shamelessly cheat on their wife who is doing everything for them. If I were to pick, I would rather be cheated on with a man who has money than a man who has nothing.

Compare the above with your earlier comment below

Safitu
No woman wants to date a man with no cash no matter how accomplished one is

So who are the jobless men and poor ones cheating with ? That's my question

If women doesn't follow men who don't have cash, How come a poor man cheat ?

rottennaija:
I think you are incoherent. Which gibberish claim and copied from where? And which nonsense? Can you be more forth coming in your writeup? What is really the dissatisfaction and what do you want me to agree to?

Guy, Number 1 , go and respond to the pending post .

Number 2, if you are really okay you would have seen where a fake Nairaland paulgrundy made a claim that a post I ascribed to paulgrundy is false . He mentioned you to join him in his ignorance, But I know u can't ever call it false because you swallowed your literal emblem eating jargons from the real paulgrundy.

rottennaija:
Refer me to it. And I am serious, probably not the way you would like it.

If you were really serious, you would have find the post . nonsense

Seems your heart was broken before sorry dear

Safitu:
No man is loyal. Whether broke or rich. Most men cheat , most men stray. It’s something the rich and the poor deal with so please spare me the bs.

From " No man " to " Most men" . Good u corrected yourself on the hasty generalization .likewise many women cheat too, even those married to rich men with their ex many times.

A rich man has Higher chance of cheating with Fine girls much more beautiful than you are , u know ?

A poor man will often get rejected even when he made the advances to cheat., where is the money sef ? Lol , are u now contradicting yourself and saying Girls will follow a man who has no money ?

paulGrundy:
you didnt put the reference because neither me nor paul Grundy made that comment. you simply made it up.

cc; rottenaija, TruthinAction

You see your life, rottennaija came online and didn't address this your rubbish claim, when he himself knew where he copied his gibberish from . Nonsense

rottennaija:
Yes. A resounding yes.

You are not serious

Go back and respond to the last post i made to you.

paulGrundy:
you didnt put the reference because neither me nor paul Grundy made that comment. you simply made it up.

cc; rottenaija, TruthinAction

U mean it ?

TruthinAction:
That word is not grave but hell. Hell and death will be destroyed. They are the spiritual prisons that held the lost souls. They will be utterly destroyed. They will no longer exist because they have fulfilled their purpose. The inmates are now in a bigger fire.

Does been thrown into lake of fire now means No longer existing ?

Cc : maximus69

TruthinAction:
This is simple English. It means the inhabitants of the cities around them who commit fornication. Those an inanimate object commit fornication?

It's just like when a news reporter says the order is from Aso Rock. It is not referring to any physical rock but the office of the presidency.

Your knowledge is low, that applies to the physical cities as well, Read Genesis 19:28,29 and come back . so are the physical cities still burning forever ?

paulGrundy:
am not suprised! telling lies and misrepresentation of comments is not new to you.
i have this quote for you @Jozzy4

John 8:44 King James Version (KJV)
44[size=16pt]Ye are of your father the devil[/size], and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

cc;

Impostor, Apply it to yourself . the actual paulgrundy knew what he wrote and would recognize it immediately, for you to ask for reference, you are an impostor, a liar like you quoted.

TruthinAction:
Yes he will stay alive in everlasting punishment . And Jesus said that several times.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into EVERLASTING punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 13:41 -42
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; note

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER.

These are just a few references from the many warnings given in the Scripture. It's left for you to believe or reject it. I didn't write them and there is no ambiguity in the interpretation. The English used is very clear.

So an human being can live forever without dying ? ?

Tell me the whole Genesis Adam sin is an Hoax ?

Chi59:
That's important, within the confines of marriage.

Good to know , your type still exist . am amazed

But let's be Blunt, Males have their own share of Blames for this thing.

1. So many males have nothing in their personality , Not a good adviser, Companion, someone who can strengthen others when they are down, all they believe in is MONEY, flashing IPhone , Cars, Money to woo women . Wait, why won't they adopt the parasite mentality ?

Some males will even be FORCING GIFT on a Girl who clearly have no interest in them . , so when the money drops or she met someone richer. Don't be surprised she left, she was there from the beginning for your money, she gave you her body not her heart.

Some of these males nearly die when they saw these girl having affair with her no so rich ex , they wonder what's wrong ? That's it. Personality matters, join it with your money. And you are an hotcake

2. . Quickly professing Love for a woman : Some guys will see a woman today, and tomorrow they are preaching how much they love her and asking her out, , You will only repel her, hey! U love her fine, the question is : does she love you?

Give her time. Try get to know her first , she can grow to like u as well

If you think it doesnt matter, Watch her go back after marriage to the man that occupied her heart. or pray they never cross paths

Let's be guided !

TanyLoe:
Wow sister,
Yeah your right. A man must have what to offer you
But what do you think you can offer him?
A friend of mine ( she's a nurse who pays her bills and her man Owns join together, if she goes out for shopping she also get things for her man. If I ask her why she is doing all this, she will just say " girlfriend you got to be able to give not always take..not always expecting."
But when she got fired at work, that's when I saw what she meant. Without her asking the man was there for her until she got a new job.
so my sister u don't get what u don't give out
And please remove the sex from the table because you both enjoyed it
what else can u offer
Don't go about with this kind of irritating mindset

Sex that he can get anywhere, no wonder most slay queens can't keep their homes from STD
, But when a lady develop herself , she is a magnetic force had to repel, he is scared of losing her.

frozen70:
Love doesn't really count on the weight of a man's pocket


If you show your self to a woman and she really loves you, money will not be an issue unless she is so desperate for money

WizKid own is a different case all together
He has so many baby mamas and he knows that all those women that loves him are for his money

His true lover was his first baby mama but because he is a star and cant be tied to one woman, he end up with baby mama's

In this case, who is to be blamed ❓

Is it him that is pregnanting women or his first baby mama that he pregnanted and left her for another woman

Poverty humbles a man, be a man keep a girl friend and keep only her and you will experience love with out using money to run it

Yes women likes money and guys like sex

Have experience the bold many times, So I knew you are right . its more reason why I don't like this low mentality exhibited by men , meeting a girl today and telling her you love her tomorrow, What nonsense ? . She will make demand as a strategy, to chase you away or if you are willing to give, then she play along .

Allow her to grow genuine feelings and See the beautiful Heart of a woman. That way balance occur, she want YOU , not your gifts or money

I cited the case of Wizkid to show the likes of Safitu and co, that - The fact that a man is a provider and rich doesn't make him Loyal, if he lacks discipline, watch your back, other ladies are coming to share him with you, of cos that same money will wive other ladies

catwalq:
Beauty for men and money for women are fantasies. Of course we'll take good character and intellect over money or beauty if we were to choose. Because those are values that are worthwhile.

U speak sense .

freethinker01:
Why on earth would I hustle because I want a girl or some girls to enjoy my money?
That's the most fvcked up shiit I've heard all day, in fact, this ruined my day.

Making money is important but never do that because you want to impress any woman . that's how Magas are born

carter009:
Guys should go and make money first, then you treat them as you wish, some girls ain't loyal anymore, is always about money, money, money,, relationships this days is a big scam, I wish we all know each other in person, I would have loved to see how safitu, marialavina and others ranting here will marry there billionaire husbands

I don't support polygamy or cheating but from what have noticed: the above bolded is the sad reality for most women who prioritize money, Many are treated as trash cos this man knows he has what it takes financially to wive the next good looking woman and there is nothing she can do about it. But its not in there own nature to share their husband hence the dillema.

Useku:
I read a line up there that says "you cant be in a relationship for Free" wake up woman real homies don't roll with people with such mindset


Your not doing any one any favour by being in a relationship with them .

Only starved dudes with low self esteem subscribe to that crap, if your happiness will be dependent on my pocket size,feel free to bounce.


Stay woke guys.

Lol most women today feed off so called Magas, this Magas all started with the belief that money is the way to please a woman but women know better .


I sometimes wonder why a rich man will marry a Lady, and she will still get weak at the sight of a not so rich former lover and even going back to him ..

The story of Joseph in the bible also amazes me, What did a young woman with a rich husband want in a Slave boy ?

Many of the girls prioritizing money will change their mindset if they meet a man who can get that very important part of them * HEART * . In fact , if they happen to meet or marry a wealthy man later on, they will do all they can to Avoid his ( the one who have their heart) path or else they will always get weak at his sight.

Money is important, but not as important as the powerful chemistry of love.

Its due to ladies pursuing money that we hear cases of married women Going back to former lovers, the heart knows what it want .

frozen70:
What women really need from a man us attention and affections

Money comes in because you want her to look good and have good looking appearance

It will be most unfair if you want her to be faithful yet you can't afford money fir her monthly pad, recharge card whatever

If someone should do that for you then you don't blame her

Money has it's own place. Even the data and phone two people use in communicating VIa WhatsApp is money . so you have a point

But when money becomes the main driving force, most ladies make mistakes , I read so many things about WizKids Baby Mamas ordeal , and so many like that

Safitu:
OGA please go and marry a lady that will feed you since that’s what you want. Or a woman that will pet you and treat you like a child. You live in Nigeria where it’s predominantly men who provide, and you’re arguing a baseless argument that doesn’t really apply in the real world? In Nigeria, we don’t respect men who cannot provide. We don’t respect men who look for women to help them out. We don’t respect who look for corners to cut. If you’re fine with that, then please live your life peacefully and let me see road for better tin.

Nothing is wrong with a man providing , nothing at all.

But with this your mindset, I hope you know when you lose your beauty, that Money can get him other young women ?

Eroms4life17:
baby girl am not hating oo. But i cannot marry or recommend any guy i know to marry you. Good luck to whoever can put up with this your mindset. I cannot can!

The so called Safitu seems to be making points but she is going extreme, In Africa here ... Most women who want a man for his money and financial abilities are often shocked to discover the same money that Marries her , can easily get him other girls/wives . hence this rivalry breeds theirs own depression as they most times like to take charge , But here is the man going after younger women.

Note: am not supporting laziness of a man, But I STRONGLY believe money shouldn't be the primary force that bind two people together

catwalq:
You are missing my point. Dreaming of marrying a rich man and actually marrying a rich man are two different things.
Just like some people desire tall guys or fair guys,but in most cases they end up with something different.

So,universally all girls DREAM of marrying rich men. Now whether they end up with rich men or not is another thing entirely. Do you understand what I'm saying?

There is nothing wrong marrying a rich man, But what amazes me in women is : How they quickly forgot the same money that draws you closer can easily get him other women !!!

TruthinAction:
The Lake of fire is under the earth and the physical world and the spiritual world sometimes can be experienced at the same time. That was why John who wrote the book of Revelation was able to see things in the realm of the spirit even in his physical body.

This also explains why one can sit down and your spirit eyes are opened to see things others could not see.

The gate to hell is on the surface of the earth but it's not visible to the physical eyes. But when the time comes, those to thrown in will enter through one of the gates.

That they were thrown in physically is not the issue. Both their bodies and souls perish in the fire. The body will burn off but the soul will still be alive to suffer the torment.

Which means this human called beast will never die but STAY FOREVER ALIVE ?

When did the gift of Everlasting life ( forever alive ) become something given to wrong doers ?

TruthinAction:
Those who lived before Jesus came will be judged differently - by the law of their conscience. Those under the Law of Moses will be judged by the law. And those who live in our days will be judged by their response to the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

In short , Jesus is not the Savior of the world but only those of his time ?

The city is burnt. But the souls of the inhabitants are still in torment. Even Jesus said the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will tolerate the punishment of hell more than the cities of his days.

You are highly inconsistent, According to the verse Even the cities are suffering the punishment of Everlasting fire, Is this a Lie ? So tell us how ?

Note: whatever applies to the city , applied to its inhabitants, don't separate.

TruthinAction:
Like I said in an earlier post, when something is symbolic, the Bible will give more insight describing what that thing represents. The beast is pictured to have ten horns. And that ten horns represents the confederation of the ten states he will rule from.

But the Lake of fire is literal as those thrown into it suffered torments . In the gospel, Jesus called it a furnace of fire that is never quenched. It is an eternal fire.

Will Grave and death suffer torment ? Rev 20:14

TruthinAction:
My friend, you have been brainwashed. Let me just prove to you that those destroyed by fire in Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering it in hell.

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

The word suffering is present continous term if you read English in school. So they are still suffering it. And the last two words, Eternal fire shows its forever.

The verse is a reference to the CITIES and those living in it . are u saying the cities are still burning with fire today ? That's only when u can make sense.

That aside, How can you claim Jesus came to save the sons and daughters of Adam if he can't save those who are.already condemned to everlasting hell in the first place WITHOUT JEsus dying for their sins ?

This would reveal if you are an enemy of Christ ransom or not.

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