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brocab:
KJV {Numbers 11:17} the Holy Spirit is given to other members of Moses tribe so they can share in the burdens together, In your NWT Bible "IT" is describe as the Holy Spirit. You should watch what you say when describing to Spirit of God, do you call the Son and the Father an "IT" too?

Brainwashed man, read KJV Numbers 11:17,, holyspirit is called " IT " ,

brocab:
KJV {Numbers 11:17} the Holy Spirit is given to other members of Moses tribe so they can share in the burdens together, In your NWT Bible "IT" is describe as the Holy Spirit. You should watch what you say when describing to Spirit of God, do you call the Son and the Father an "IT" too?

Brainwashed man, read KJV Numbers 11:17,, its called " IT "

zodiakzax:
you only keep on biting your own tail. Russell Claims the finished mystery was divinely provided so the Finished mystery he claimed was from Christ. But now you deny what Russell Blvd in and taught. Your Founder! Confused pple. Satan makes a fool out of you and you don't even see it.

Show me where he claimed to be the founder of Jehovahs Witnesses ?

zodiakzax:
asking silly qtns everytime: what's the difference between God's nature and Divine Nature?

You mean there is no difference, see your life.

humans will be ressurected To heaven to share in the divine nature of God , does it mean this humans will become Almighty Gods ? 2 pet 1:4

Solite3 which ministry una dey attend sef ? Cos this ya pastor or clergyman no try at all o ,

solite3:
you have now run away to ESV

Run away bawo ? Dont be silly , thats what the Bible said .

[quote author=solite3 post=46307111][/quote]To be consistent, if Rev 1:8 refers to Jesus you must admit the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus , do you ?

If u dont , u are just another sheep scattered by men in Black

[quote author=solite3 post=46307111][/quote]To be consistent, if Rev 1:8 refers to Jesus you must admit the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus , do you ?

If u dont , u are just another sheep scattered by men in Back

zodiakzax:
Mr man or boy, have you read the finished mystery yourself, you lack understanding and know not wht you talk about. Russell claims the Finished mystery was Divinely provided” (pg 145). Go and get the book and read and stop demonstrating your ignorance here.

Learn to comprehend, solite said Rusell himself not book, claim to be SPECIALLY ANOINTED BY GOD, and i ask is it by seeing Jesus asking him to become a pastor or reverend like ur men in black always claim ?

zodiakzax:
oo. Dolphinheart Listen to wisdom: if you have the same Nature as your father then both of you are humans. Your father is a human being but is greater than you in position, that's because he is your Father. Jesus and God the Father have the same nature and what nature is that? God's nature. And if He has God's nature who is He? Human or God? that God Nature makes Him God just as Human nature makes us Human. And we keep on telling you that Jesus came as both God and Man," Even Though in the Form of God, thought it not Robbery to be Equal with God: but made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant (whose servant? God's) and was made in the likeness of men..." Philp2:6-7,8. Jesus was both God and man. Read Mathew 21:15-16,cf Ps 8:2, Jesus used the word meant for God for Himself. What does that tell u? Also you can read John 12:37-43. Can't wait to see how you will explain it. Since you fight against Textus receptus so much pls be my guest to use any other greek rendering to explain it. We blv ur bible translation is wrong, you say ours (kjv) is wrong. In order to understand each other pls let's use a greek version. Kingdom Interlinear greek (KIT) will be perfect since it was published by the watch tower.

You are just one confuse being been brainwashed by those men in BLACK.

By Gods nature, do u mean divine Nature ?

solite3:
@ bold where is that

" for us there is one God, the Father, from
whom are all things " 1 Cor 8:6 ESV

solite3:
where is the lie there. O I forgot you never attended school.

Just imagine, where is the lie there ? Dont worry the page is forever there for people to see.

solite3:
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Special anointing kwa? Like seeing a vision of Jesus calling him to become a pastor or seeing God in his dreams telling him to become a bishop . oga, he never claimed any special revelation from God like ur men in black clergymen do . sorry

He only based his belives on the revelations contained in the Bible.


About Rev 3:21 , are u saying God lap Jesus or what , same way Jesus will lap his 12 apostles on his Own throne ?

Next time , for proper understanding read Act 2:32,33 God raise Jesus to his right hand.

Once again to be consistent, are u saying the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ? Ur disgrace just began

solite3:
rev3:14 means Jesus is the source or originator of all things or you want to trickisly take away that title from him. All things are of the father and through the son. You lie it didn't say all things came from the father but all things are of him. go and check well

The Father is the source, from whom all things are !!! 1 cor 8:6

Jesus is the beginning of the Creation of God Rev 3:14 KJV ,

solite3:
rev3:14 means Jesus is the source or originator of all things or you want to trickisly take away that title from him. All things are of the father and through the son. You lie it didn't say all things came from the father but all things are of him. go and check well

The Father is the source, from whom all things are !!! 1 cor 8:6

Jesus is the beginning of the Creation of God Rev 3:14 KJV , u agree ?

solite3:
rev3:14 means Jesus is the source or originator of all things or you want to trickisly take away that title from him. All things are of the father and through the son. You lie it didn't say all things came from the father but all things are of him. go and check well

The Father is the source, from whom all things are !!! 1 cor 8:6

Jesus is the beginning of the Creation of God Rev 3:14 KJV , u agree with Kjv ?

solite3:
otodo that verse is referring to the trinity

Trinity kwa , do u say Jesus is the Father ?

solite3:
did I tell you create does not mean create. You are right I have a problem with liars

solite3
word create as used there doesn't literally mean to create

Liar

solite3:
oga but Russell said rev1:8 refers to Jesus na doesn't mean Russell didn't use his brain Jesus is God true. Is he a false God or a true God?

Rusell give Rev 1:8 to Jesus, but he is not consistent with that explanation because at Rev 5:1 Rusell admit that this is talking about the Father. Whereas the Person sitting on the throne is the one called the one who is , who was and who is to come ( Rev 1:4) .


For ur information, anyone who claims Rev 1:8 refers to Jesus must be ready to accept that the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ... To be consistent.

solite3:
Romans 11:36
For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever Amen.
Note this verse said that everything came from God, came through God and belong to God and yet all things came through Christ. So invariably Jesus is God

The "Him" at Romans 11:36 is talking about the Father, u can only make sense if you say jesus is the Father. If u cant admit that, just sharrap

solite3:
so John1:3 Colossians 1:15 is lying. John said NOTHING CREATED WAS CREATED WITHOUT CHRIST which means as far as anything is called created then surely it was through Christ I guess it was because of folks like you he reinforced his words so that you will not be able to twist it. Paul again said that whatever in heaven or on earth or under the earth was created by him. I can see you are going round in circles. I promise to disgrace you with scriptures if you continue this your lie again . as I have done before. Shallum

He showed u with scripture that the Father is the source of creation, he is the one from whom all things came .

Only for u to revert to your default, does john 1:3 and Colosian 1:15 tell you the Father is part of the ALL things made through Jesus ? If u can tell me the Father is part of the ALL things,i will take u serious

solite3:
I guess you don't know the difference between poetical use of words and literary use of words. I guess you should go back to school.

Create doesnt mean create ? Captivator, this ur friend have problem o

solite3:
I Corinth 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him

Can u see, one God = the father !!! not one God = trinity.

zodiakzax:
KIT (Kigndom Interlinear greek, which was publsih by the WTS) pls, and you founder Russell admits that Jesus is God almighty check it Out in the Finished Mystery. Maybe you will repent from your blasphemous doctrine.

Jesus is called Mighty God ( isa 9:6) , but not and never the Almighty God , put on your thinking ability which the book of proverb advised u to have and let me ask : can the Almighty God be subjected to anyone ? Can the Almighty God have a God he worship ?


Refusal to use ur brain is an insult to the one who gave you that Brain

zodiakzax:
You said it should be " A God"? So why Then did your people use "a god"? Small g, Do you now doubt your bible? Also note that "in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God. This is Almighty God we are talking about here and the scripture there is referring to God Almighty. You pple are confused. Did The greek greek say "A God"? Or God, please reference me any greek mss you have. Since u like using greek.

U dont read and comprehend.

", Jesus is called a God same way humans are called Gods " that was my statement, if u can argue the underlined with me, i will take u serious ?

Plus You still lack understanding on the Prov 8 and the link we shared.

Just answer me: since u claimed its literal wisdom , then does it mean before creating wisdom Yahweh lacks wisdom ??

zodiakzax:
you Are quick to quote greek to prove your point. So why don't you quote greek when it comes to John 1:1? Nonetheless your point is still invalid bcs Pov 8 isn't talking about Christ. We have explained to you the meaning of that word there but u decide to hold on to the one that makes you happy. I believe we shld all start using the greek mss to make our point here esp from the New Testament, we can use your Kingdom Interlinear greek bible, at least. Please am waiting for your John 1:1 in greek and the word for word translation of it. Thank you

I dont have any problem with John 1:1 , Jesus is called A God .. , even humans are called Gods, same greek word . so wats ur problem ? Unlike you I agree with the scriptures that Jesus is subjected to His God, ( 1 cor 15:28) .


Now that uv seen clearly that Create is used at proverb 8:22 ( supported by LXX ) , and you mean the verse is talking about a literal wisdom , DOES THAT NOT MEAN THERE WAS A TIME YAHWEH LACK WISDOM ?

johnw74:
Lie Lie jozzy



Following captivator is like the blind leading the blind.


The Holy Spirit is not two
the Holy Spirit is God
God is one
God, is God and the Word
God and the Word is the Holy Spirit

The rest of what you say is just more of the same old confusion and repeated lies.

You don't and cannot understand, even a thing that is so simple for Christians,
the Spirit is needed, who you don't know.

Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

The holyspirit was personified in those scriptures man.

@ Numbers 11:17,, the holyspirit is identified as " IT " so get sense.

johnw74:
Pro_14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.



Christians know that the Holy Spirit is God
Christians know that God and the word is God

false jw will never know.

Only a deceiver will say the Word ( Jesus christ ) is Gods spirit. False teacher

alexis:
You are dishonest - the Septuagint Translation there was MADE, not CREATE. The verse is interpreted as The Lord made me the beginning of his ways for his works.. It is talking about the eternity of wisdom and not the origination or bringing into existence of wisdom. This is some of the dishonesty you guys throw around that is really shallow and most times you catch the un-informed with it.

Hahahaha, when something is Made is it not created ?

Ignorance of the highest order , the translator use Made whereas the greek word ekitse means create . grow up lol

alexis:
Can you please show us where the septuagint said CREATE? I am not arguing that RSV said create or not. The point was simple, the verse was talking about Wisdom and not Jesus. But most importantly, God existed eternally and He used Wisdom and that is what Proverbs 8:22 was referring to.

Greek Wisdom in Prov 8:22 LXX (italics added - Brenton LXX in English): “The Lord made (ekitse) me the beginning of his ways for his works.

check strongs for that greek word ekitse, it means create. thats Septuagint for you.

johnw74:
Lie Lie jozzy



Of course the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit
God is God and the word
God is Spirit

God and the word is Spirit
God and the word is the Holy Spirit

These simple truths of the Spirit, cannot be understood by sectarians and other non believers.




In (brackets) mine, things are spelt out and false jw still doesn't see-believe it

Blindness @ bold


ur case ehn na critical one . the spirit of God is the Word , again u said the spirit of God is holy holy spirit. so spirit of God is two ? that quaternity not trinity lolzzzzz

and if u insist its the same thing that means the Word is the holyspirit , are u now admitting the holyspirit ( the Word) became Jesus ?

How can a sane Christian say the Word is the spirit of God ( holyspirit) ? a statement depicting lack of proper knowledge