Islam › Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 5:11pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012: What is your point really?
Ecc.3:21 Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
Solomon, the speaker himself was not sure of what it is. If he wasn't sure of where they go, how was he sure of the existence of animal spirit? Your reference is irrelevant. We have seen man resurrect, have you heard any animal resurrect? Read from verse 19, animals have same spirit as man. He was asking where the spirit of man and animals go, not that he wasn't sure of its existence please! Going by your logic, that means man don't have spirit too since both are mentioned in that verse. |
Islam › Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 5:08pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Can you show me just ONE passage in the Bible where an animal is said to yield up the ghost? or where animals were said to have an inner self? If yes, pls go ahead.
If no, then I go along with the contextual usage that shows the usage of spirit in that passage relates to breath, not the inner man! What about inner woman? You guys like to deceive yourselfs. Animals have spirit , also breath of life. That's the point |
Islam › Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 4:23pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012: Stop the islamic falsehood, animals have no spirit and so they don't resurrect, there is no next life for them. There are no animals in heaven, unless you are referring to your fictitious al-jannah. Having spirit has nothing to do with ressurection bro, for the record animals have same spirit with man ( Ecc 3:19-21) |
Islam › Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 4:16pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
This is funny though, I don't see how the muslims gonna defend that!
Besides , didn't many so called Christians also claim Jesus is living as human in heaven presently , is that not flesh and blood ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Satan? by Jozzy4: 3:56pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Considering John 8:44 ,
" You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. "
what God created is a good Angel who was in the truth. [size=26] but he didnt stand firm in the truth, [/size] like a Child who worked towards earning a bad name like thieve, kidnapper etc due to his or her attitude, he earned the name Satan meaning " Adversary, Resister " by himself . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 3:42pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
blessedvisky: You are an embittered and pained person that's why you have to tell LIES to defend yourself. What the Bible records is JESUS Christ chasing out the money changers and Dove sellers Lol, I don't think you still need to be told that the underlined are exactly those I called ' useless men ' , in fact Jesus call them THIEVES . next time, u need to calm down. Matthew 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
The reactions of the people were not recorded. Can you now see where bitterness has gotten you?? I never said the reaction of the people were recorded, kindly re-read my statement please  " guess the reaction of people LIKE YOU ' the Guy ( Jesus) sounds bitter and pained"
I believe that is clear for someone honest, GUESS! the reaction of people like You is NOT the same as it was recorded that. comprehension! What makes you think Olaadegbu is my teacher?? Oh I forgot that pained people like you also tend to be irrational in thinking. You really need help.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Going by these verses, we obviously see that a man's BODY came from from the Earth while the spirit comes from God. This makes Genesis 2:7 and 1:26 clearer and which exactly is the man , the spirit from God/breath of life , or the dust ? am happy you quote the above verses, according to the scriptures, what u called dust/body is THE MAN ! that's the simple point u need to understand. Gen 2:7 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 2:07pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
blessedvisky: The guy sounds bitter and pained for your information, Christ Jesus whip some useless men in the temple, guess the reaction of people like you ' the Guy ( Jesus) sounds bitter and pained ' . I hate people telling deliberate lies and claim they are scriptural. u can at least show me where the scripture said God formed Adams body from the ground ? since you are following your false teacher , Olaadegbu  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: You need to put on the new man so that you can understand the article below: false preacher! go back and reread my post, next time you won't make that grave mistake of replacing " Man" with " body " based on your pagan Greek philosophy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: You need to put on the new man so that you can understand the article below: false preacher! go back and reread my post, next time you won't make that grave mistake of replacing Man with body according to your pagan Greek philosophy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 1:06pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit" (1 Cor.15:45).
The Scriptures says God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul. The last Adam, Jesus Christ breathed into those who believe a life giving Spirit. Accept Jesus into your life today and receive the quickening Spirit.  You need Jesus the most, false preacher am happy you now correct your initial error in the statement : " OLAADEGBU : It is plainly recorded here that Adam's [size=27] body [/size] was formed out of the "elements of the earth" since you can't defend the above statement which is based on pagan Greek Imortal soul and not the scriptures , you are forced to admit the Bible did not said the body was formed BUT that THE MAN himself was formed. " OLAADEGBU: Scriptures says God formed [size=27] man [/size] of the dust of the ground" the distinction is clear, its a welcomed development , very soon I believe your eyes will be clear to know the Truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Your Attachment Looks Like In The Spiritual Realm. by Jozzy4: 1:04pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
soulpeppersoup: When a man dies it means his soul is dead on earth where it was functional. now your logic move against you and u have to include irrational thoughts like dead on earth .. smh. anything dead doesn't live on. it becomes NON living. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Your Attachment Looks Like In The Spiritual Realm. by Jozzy4: 12:56pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
soulpeppersoup: Lol, you funny ooo. Bros but wait a minute. Do you think a computer is that box sitting in front of you? No! It is the operating system that make the computer. Hope you understand. when a computer is dead , it means the operating system is faulty or dead too, u know ? if your analogy is right, that means when a man dies , a soul dies . , do u agree ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Your Attachment Looks Like In The Spiritual Realm. by Jozzy4: 12:35pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
soulpeppersoup: That woman is soul not flesh please. The analysis of op is out of proportion though. so soul dey get eyelashes and pink lips ? bravo! tell me more ...  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 12:27pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
zodiakzax: King James Bible Matt 16:27
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Jesus said He shall come as the Son of Man not as the Son of God. What do you understand by as the Son of Man? Here is the difference between Son of man and Son of God. Son of man = Human nature, Son of God= God's Nature. He will come not as God to judge man but as Man to judge mankind so that mankind will not have any excuse when being Judged by his fellow Man. He was born in the lowliest form, born in a place where animals sleep and feed, yes, born in a manger, don't be deceived by the movies, they don't get close to how that place was. It's a nasty place. Our Lord wasn't as handsome as the movies portray Him to be, He was not handsome outwardly, just like Isaiah said in Isaiah 53:2 and Christ was poor. He went through everything that any lowly man would go through, so that at the end no one will have an excuse when He comes to Judge us. He comes not as God to judge us but as Man to judge us.
He shall come In the Glory of His Father. God the Father says I share not my glory with anyone else. Isa 42:8
God is called the King of glory. Ps 24:8-10
Jesus is the Lord of Glory: 1con 2:8
If you still can't understand this then you are in deep confusion.
You keep on mentioning the samething over and over again,
My Father is greater than I: that is because Father is greater than Son in position and that is also because even though He (Jesus) was in the form of God He thought it not robbery to be equal with God....Phil 2:6
The Head of Christ is God: same principle.
Jesus will be subjected to God Same principle.
You lack the understanding when Christ is referred to us God or as Man. If you don't understand this simple logic, you can never understand the mysteries of the Trinity. the bolded truth is a disgrace to your God over all theory. can the God OVER ALL still be subjected ? simple logic is needed here , which u failed excellently |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Your Attachment Looks Like In The Spiritual Realm. by Jozzy4: 8:05pm On Jun 29, 2016 |
how can that be justified considering the fact that the Lady in that picture is flesh and blood not an immaterial soul ? besides, your mythical immaterial souls dey put on attachments ?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 10:54am On Jun 29, 2016 |
zodiakzax: you are funny and again your thinking Is like that of a baby. Who used the RSV? Was it not you? Yes, to point out the silly part of your post accusing only the NWT of translating Romans 9:5 differently, whereas RSV and many others follow the NWT rendering. [s] I quoted John 1:1 to you in the RSV, which obviously you dont blv and yet you were quick to use the RSV to support your claim, that was the whole idea of me quoting John 1:1 from RSV. So who is the hypocrite here? [/s] this is out of the jurisdiction of this discussion. my reason for quoting u is to show u the fallacy of thinking only the NWT render Romans 9:5 differently  RSV is wrong in translating that verse. Get it into that thick head of yours. lol, they are wrong but yours is right. oga , if Jesus is God OVER ALL , ALL , why is he then still subjected to his God ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 11:57am On Jun 28, 2016 |
zodiakzax: RSV John 1:1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
RSV Says the Word was God.. hmmmmm.. Am sure you believe it since you were fast to use the RSV. Such Hypocrites. Well my friend RSV Is simply wrong in the translation of Romans 9:5. All other translations got it right, and I did give a link to the greek.maybe you should check it out. You laugh at your own self my friend. I gave you the RSV to let you realize that not only the NWT translates it as u think. that's the point and UV seen it 1 cor 11:3 is enough to let you know whose translation is correct. really , the RSV translates Romans 9:5 wrongly but John 1:1 correctly abi ? your hypocrisy stinks . |
Sports › Re: Argentine President Begs Messi To Come Back - Pix by Jozzy4: 11:50am On Jun 28, 2016 |
But to say the truth, this Messi have sense o
announcing his retirement now brought back his respect from Argentines . Now they will be more supportive
nice move. good tactic |
Sports › Re: Argentine President Begs Messi To Come Back - Pix by Jozzy4: 11:48am On Jun 28, 2016 |
martineverest: because Ronaldo haven't gotten to any final with Portugal don't mind him, he doesn't know how it feels to lose in more than 3 finals. I feel for the guy though |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 11:13am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Horlufemi: A simple logic a child would understand is hard for you.
You are simply missing the basics. In your free time do a research this time sincerely pray for God to make you understand.
I won't reply to this again.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 10:53am On Jun 28, 2016 |
zodiakzax: ROMANS 9:5 (cf 1 John 5:20)
New International Version Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
New Living Translation Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.
English Standard Version To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Berean Study Bible Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them proceeds the human descent of Christ, who is God over all, forever worthy of praise! Amen.
Berean Literal Bible whose are the patriarchs; and from whom is Christ according to the flesh, being God over all, blessed to the ages. Amen.
New American Standard Bible whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
King James Bible Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Holman Christian Standard Bible The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Messiah, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen.
International Standard Version To the Israelis belong the patriarchs, and from them, the Messiah descended, who is God over all, the one who is forever blessed. Amen.
NET Bible To them belong the patriarchs, and from them, by human descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English And the Patriarchs; and from them The Messiah appeared in the flesh, who is The God Who is over all, to Whom are praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities, amen.
GOD'S WORD® Translation The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
New American Standard 1977 whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
Jubilee Bible 2000 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh is the Christ, who is God over all things, blessed for all the ages. Amen.
Check out the greek here
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/romans/9-5.htm
Jehovah witnesses you have no case. Satan is only making a fool out of you. And of course your bible wouldn't translate it as such. Hahahahhahahha such clowns. evidently I guess this RSV was translated by Jehovah's Witnesses too  Romans 9:5 "to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ . God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen. " appropriately gives that claim to the true God, the God of Jesus , also the Father of Jesus Christ, the supreme being who is over all including Jesus . ( 1 cor 11:3) " the HEAD of Christ is God "
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 10:25am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Horlufemi: The simple answer is he was not told and that doesn't make him less God. shikena
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 9:57am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Horlufemi: He needed to die a human being. do you even know God? his glory? a spirit being cannot die you know.
Philippians 2:6-8 Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to . [7] Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, [8] he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross. if Jesus have all the qualities that make God God, why then didn't he know the end ? that's the question |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 9:53am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Horlufemi: 1. Trinity doctrine is bullshit. okay 2. Jesus is God's son by birth. to scare you Jesus is the God of the old testament. He is I AM. who is knocking ? , I replied " I AM" . then have become the God of old testament, its so plain how ridiculous u guys go to defend your absurdity anyway, take this fine reference telling you Jesus is not the God of old testament. "The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered and disowned in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him." - Act 3:13
there you have it, Jesus is the servant of the God of Abraham ( or old testament as u say ) . 3. Only a Creator can redeem the created. Angel's can't. A man may only redeem a man but a Creator would redeem infinity number of the created. Jesus is creator who created everything. Jesus is God oga, show me one single place where Jesus is called CREATOR ? 4. Multiple references in the Bible of God and God. Observe. Hebrews 1:8, Gen 19:24
are u a jw and your point is ? didn't heb 1:9 showed that Jesus have a God , that clearly proves he is not the Almighty the Almighty can not have a God! |
Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian Youth, Is There Anything Wrong With Keeping Beards ? by Jozzy4: 7:26pm On Jun 27, 2016 |
MrPresident1: social convention. What is acceptable and what is not acceptable in the context of your environment very good! Environment plays a major role in this kind of issues, for example, Nose ring is common in India . not a big deal. . but imagine a Nigerian lady with nose ring saying she wanna preach to you ? lol, how would u feel ? . same goes with Beard . study your environment , don't be A StUMBLING Block apostle Paul once said he wont eat meat if its going to stumble another person, does it mean meat is bad ? No, but one as to be aware of what is offensive and acceptable to his kind of society or else he commits by stumbling others same goes with beard, not bad in itself but be careful not to stumble the faith of others . that can be disastrous |
Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian Youth, Is There Anything Wrong With Keeping Beards ? by Jozzy4: 7:24pm On Jun 27, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 11:35am On Jun 27, 2016 |
Horlufemi: John 1:1 NLT In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God (Having all the qualities that make God God).
Simplified. if Jesus have all the qualities that make God God, why then didn't he know the end ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 11:29am On Jun 27, 2016 |
Horlufemi: Philippians 2:6-8 Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to . [7] Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, [8] he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross.
I hope you understand. this prove he is not the Almighty God, since he didn't think of equality with God @ underlined. then Trinity is wrong for putting him in a position he himself never cling to, hope you understand ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did The Curse Of Adam And Eve Affect Most Of The Other Animals? by Jozzy4: 1:45pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
" unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed " - 2 pet 2:12
as seen in the scripture above, easy life is not promised to animal creations from the beginning |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did The Curse Of Adam And Eve Affect Most Of The Other Animals? by Jozzy4: 1:45pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 1:30pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
Horlufemi: Speaking of Jesus' Second Coming, Matthew 24:36 (and Mark 13:32 ) tells us, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” When Jesus spoke these words to the disciples, even He had no knowledge of the date and time of His return. Although Jesus was fully God ( John 1:1 , 14 ), when He became a man, He voluntarily restricted the use of certain divine attributes ( Philippians 2:6–8 ). He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father ( John 4:34 ; 5:30 ; 6:38 ). He demonstrated His omniscience on several occasions (cf. John 2:25 ; 3:13 ), but He voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know during the days of His humanity ( John 15:15 ). Such was the case regarding the knowledge of the date and time of His return. After He was resurrected, Jesus resumed His full divine knowledge (cf. Matthew 28:18 ; Acts 1:7 ). Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus' return will be. Verses such as John 5:30 ; 6:38 ; 8:28-29 ; 10:30 ; 12:49 ; 14:28 , 31 ; and Matthew 26:39 , 42 demonstrate Jesus' submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead. Yes, they are both God. But some things Jesus had apparently chosen to "give up the rights" to be privy to during His earthly ministry (see Philippians 2:5-11 ). Jesus, now exalted in Heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His Second Coming. Just listen to yourself , How can the Almighty God be restricted from knowing the end because he came in form of a man ? Does it mean flesh has power over him ? ONLY the Father knows ! Period |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Jozzy4: 1:30pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
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