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MizJanet:


so u cure the sick and raise the dead, interesting tales, at mark 16:18 Jesus said his followers will carry snake's , why are you not practising this in ur churches ?

can you please do a little research regarding the authenticity of that verse ?

brocab:
If you are going to quote the scriptures at least read the verses rightly {Mark 16:17-19} These signs will accompany those who have believed, In My name they will cast out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will pick up servants, and if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them, and they will lay hands on the sick and they will get well. So then when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them He was taken up into heaven.
Yep, I have cast out demons, I speak in new tongues, I have pick up shakes, alcohol can be classed as a deadly poison, yes I have laid hands on the sick, and seen some instant healing. Prove me and the bible wrong?

this is why atheists mock we christians, imagine you producing this kinda LIE just because you are on a faceless forum . haaa I hail u in lieing, now I see your true color. brocab, how many snakes have u pick up ? I mean LIVE SNAKE

Rawblings:
oga you funny die.. just pass. you've been blinded beyond reasonable doubt.. I can't open them for you cos you're not willing

simply put no such three in ONE GOD is found there.

besides, ever wondered why most translation indicate in their footnotes that this verse is a late addition ? u have a long way to go man

Rawblings:
so you mean you can't see or comprehend
1 John 5:7?
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

did it say this three are ONE GOD? answer me, did it ?

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brocab:
Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday. {Matthew 18:20} The Lord said when two all three are gathered in His name He is in the mist of us all.
My Church is nothing like your Church, the difference is I study the Word of God, while you study the word of a God.

haba , u sud have told me before that you attend everyday now , now the name of the place or na private home fellowship u dey do ? heb 10:24,25

Rawblings:
read it again like 10x, you'll see the answer

what about 50x , or 200x ... nonsense, kindly point out where three in one God is stated there ?

brocab:
Firstly I don't go to Church on the Sunday, and secondly as I said I go to God's Church. This is the name.

hun, you don't go to Church on Sunday ? when do you go to church?

besides, una still dey hide, why are u scared Tell me the name of your church ?

brocab:
Firstly I don't go to Church on the Sunday, and secondly as I said I go to God's Church. This is the name.

hun, you don't go to Church on Sunday ? when do you go to church?

besides, una still dey hide, why are u scared Tell me the name of your church ?

brocab:
Firstly I don't go to Church on the Sunday, and secondly as I said I go to God's Church. This is the name.

hun, you don't go to Church on Sunday ? when do you go to church?

besides, una still dey hide, why are u scared Tell me the name of your church ?

Rawblings:
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Another confirmation is in Mattew 3:16
When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[c] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

how does this prove three in one God ?

brocab:
A again, and again I am a born again Christian, My Church is God's Church.
What's the name of your Church?

Gods church kwa , okay maybe you didn't comprehend well .. he meant that which ministry or church do you attend on Sunday, the name ?

goodnews201668:
Have i ever discussed anything about 'it' with you? Must you accuse and blame everybody?
Always looking for ways to derail.

that is solite for you buhahaha

solite3:
son of insult. Continue more grease to your elbow.your organisation is a breeding ground for lies, insults and every destable practice.you are like wolf in sheep clothing, just like the pharisee which outwardly appears to be holy but inwardly are white washed grave, like blaam who taught the children of is real abhormination. You speak blasphemously against the holy spirit of God.
@ bold my point was to show you that 'it' can be used for both personal or impersonal entities Without referring to its gender, but again you failed to grasped a simple primary school subject .

kai , are u not the one who said it is used for baby and animal's, then which of these categories does holy spirit belong to make it deserve AN IT ? tell us oooo

OLAADEGBU:
Let me break the verse down into bitesizes if that will help you grasp the truth of our being.

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground".... (Genesis 2:7a).

It is plainly recorded here that Adam's body was formed out of the "elements of the earth" same as animals'.

are you serious at all ? do you think you are among the babies in ur church that you spoonfed with ur illegal teachings , did it say THE MAN was formed from the ground or THE BODY was formed from the ground ? answer me

"....and breathed into his nostrils the breadth of life".... (Genesis 2:7b).

What man has in common with animals is breath and soul but the difference is that Adam's breath (spirit) and soul were imparted directly by God while that of animals' were indirect.

you cant twist anything here oladegbu , MAN and animals have the same breath of life in their nostrils ? simple YES OR NO is required here .

"....and man became a living soul" (Genesis 2:7c).

This is the result of direct impartation of man's spirit and soul. We see here that Adam was not only created in God's spiritual image but he was also made in God's physical image. Adam's body was specifically planned to be most suited for the divine fellowship and that God Himself would one day assume as He eventually did in our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:20).



You are the one denying God's word. You are unable to provide the evidence that God's Word is a lie. When you don't believe the truth of God's Word you are then open into believing a lie from the pit of hell. If God says it in His Word and I believe it, that settles it for me.

dont confuse yourself more with the confusion you have already .... did the bible say THE MAN was formed out of the ground OR the BODY was formed ? answer me

solite3:
but it can be used for babies or animals

see your life , and
holyspirit is a baby or animal ? answer me

solite3:
Jesus is God Jehovah who created all things. Deal with it

refering to JEHOVAH, the bible said YOU ALONE are the most high , is ALONE used for more than one person ?

johnw74:
You are wrong yet again false jw, here is an imaginery occurence to show you that the pronoun "it" can be used for anyone including Father God:

When Jesus was Baptized the voice of Father God was heard from Heaven, saying: "this is my beloved Son"
homas said to Jesus: "Jesus, is that your Father? to which Jesus replied: yes "it" is.
However the Father God is not a "it" a thing, but a person, in fact the person of God.

Lie Lie jozzy

You are wrong in every single post to me in this thread, have a look bach through them, you don't believe the Bible scriptures posted, and you call others who post and believe the scriptures, liars.

Are there people more evil than that in the world

haaaaaa where is the bold written in the bible ? i need u to show me where thomas said so to JESUS when JESUS was baptized


barristter07 , dolphinheart , jessicha ... keep your eyes on this liar

alexis:
So it's down to English and Semantics now abi? So, Jesus can create the whole universe and everything in it but because He wasn't called the Creator means He is not the Creator of what He created. Here we go again:

Colossians 1:16 = For by him were ALL THINGS CREATED, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

From the above scripture, did Jesus everything?

for by him ..... that statement reveal he is NOT THE SOURCE but medium through which all things are created . only the source reserves the title of a CREATOR . Again JESUS IS NEVER CALLED CREATOR , HE himself acknowledge the FATHER AS CREATOR ( MATT 19:4-6)

johnw74:
Lie Lie jozzy




Bill said about Jims pet Tiger: "it eats a lot"
Bill said "it" because he didn't know what sex it was
But the Tiger is not a thing but an animal.

It could be in the same way that a writer calls the Holy spirit "it"
because spirit doesn't have sexual gender, but that's just one possibility.

Now why don't you believe all these scriptures showing that the Holy spirit
is personable and not a thing - a power.


ANSWER

let me open ur thinking faculty bro , the FATHER IS A SPIRIT AND HE IS NEVER CALLED AN IT again can THE pronoun it be used for a person ?

johnw74:
False jw jozzy, there is only one God the Father, and you left out the rest of the verse that shows that the Father and Jesus Christ are two persons in the one God, that of whom and by whom are all things:

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Also:

the Father (theos) means: a diety, especially the supreme Divinity, God

one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios) means: supreme in authority, God

some will also know that there are many lord's,
but Jesus there is called "one" Lord Jesus Christ


Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Or it could be said:
One God, one faith, one baptism, Lord and God in these verses both = God

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.


There is the father (theos God)

There is one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios God)




Lie Lie jozzy

there is one GOD, THE FATHER ...... NOT TRINITY . shame on you liars

alexis:
You are claiming Creator and maker are different here but in explaining the meaning of the Greek word of CREATE, you said that CREATE and MADE are the same.

In Hebrews 1:2: God the Father acknowledges it was through God the Son that the universe was created. In John 1:3, John confirmed that God the Son is the maker and creator of ALL things.

You can't selectively choose CREATOR means something one place and MAKER doesn't or CREATE and MADE are not the same when you defended it was the same elsewhere.

If that is not clear, read Colossians 1;16 = For by him were ALL THINGS CREATED, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Can you please explain how God is the creator and Jesus is also the creator?

JESUS is never called "Creator" Bro.

alexis:
Good point - JW claim Jehovah is the creator and Jesus is the master maker: Are they both the same thing to you guys. I am not asking if Jehovah allowed Jesus or gave Him the power to do whatever. I am asking is the Creator and the Master Maker the same?

NO , infact Christ Jesus acknowledge Jehovah God HIS FATHER as The Creator {mat 19:4~6, Mark 13:19}

brocab:
Am I receiving mail from someone like you-who doesn't even know who the Spirit of God is?
Someone who refuses to hear the truth about the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, surely shows a lot of hypocritically about yourself.
A little brain dead as you are, you can only read so little without even touching the sides who the Holy Spirit is, you can only see Him as an "IT" Or some kind of an Active force.
I suppose you see yourself having these same qualifications? Your own flesh and blood is an "IT" "Am I right?

Numbers 11:17 .. Is The pronoun " it " used for a person ?

zodiakzax:
My advice is you stop right here before you make a fool out of yourself like Jozzy4.

This Noise is not needed , just show me where Rusell claimed to be the founder of Jehovahs Witnesses ? Or are u just spreading lies ? Show me where ?

johnw74:
The Holy Spirit is somewhere referred to as "it", and false jw jozzy runs with that to support his satanic doctrine that the Holy Spirit is a power, and not a person, and he ignores the many verses showing that the Holy Spirit is a person.

False Teacher , Go And study personification in the scriptures , is " it " used for a person ?

zodiakzax:
hahahahha, liar, by the way the OP Is a she. " Jehovah witnesses had its Origin in the Bible Student movement. IT founder was Charles Taze Russell in the 1870's..." It founder... what is the IT there referring to? It seems you will clearly lie even if the truth is obvious. This is simple English, its either you don't know your grammar or U are just trying to be a pain in The ass. She was asked a qtn, " Who is the founder of JW's..." and that was her answer. Unless of course you Are divided.

Thats her level of understanding, besides she answered the question from the angle of the Bible student movement which make her conclude so.

In REALITY , Rusell never claimed to be the founder of Jehovahs Witnesses , did he ? U know the truth, nd am sure u cant show me anywhere he claimed so, which called for ur noise.

[size=27] I challenge you to show me where Russell claimed to be the founder of Jehovahs Witnesses ? [/size] failure to do so, means you are just spreading lies all this while

solite3:
the words he who was, who is and is to come is a reference to the deity Jehovah. Since both Jesus and his father are one Jehovah those words can be applied to Christ. Since the voice who was communicating with john was that of Christ we can say that 1:8 is referring to Christ which Russell also believes

I will take u serious if u admit the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ?

zodiakzax:
Mr Jozzy4, this is from the mouth of the OP of this thread (https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people). So is she wrong? Am I to assume you have different understanding? thought you said there's No division among you? Anyways WTS can deny him as the founder but you see the world knows the truth, you can check this link out.

http://www.patheos.com/Library/Jehovahs-Witnesses

He speak based on the bible student movement, show me where Rusell himself claimed to Be The founder of Jehovahs Witnesses ?

zodiakzax:
as usual you lack the ability to comprehend and interpret scripture. In the context in which that was written, do you think Peter implies we become Diety bcs we partake of the Divine Nature? Does this scripture in any way imply we will have God's nature? God says of Himself " ... my Glory will I not give to another..." Isaiah 42:8, and yet Christ asks God to restore Him to the same Glory God has John 17:5. Phil 2:6 ( Christ having the Nature of God). There's no scripture that says we will have the Nature Of God or Divine Nature? Maybe if you want to know what Peter means in that vs, you can visit this link.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/2-peter-1-4.html

' become sharers of the divine Nature ' 2pet 1:4 , visible to the blind and audible to the deaf , they will have it . can they be said to be sharers if they wont have it ?


You know this point will shake you off.

johnw74:
Lie Lie jozzy




Of course you don't know that the Word Jesus Christ is God's Spirit, how could you, you are false jw
of course you don;t believe the Bible, we know that, you are false jw

The Spirit of God hath made me
who made me?
the Word Jesus Christ

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was mad


Lie Lie jozzy, by your own words you are a deceiver and false teacher, but we have long known that

False teacher ... Jesus, the Word is not Gods spirit

johnw74:
Jesus said:
Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

But of course Lie lie jozzy doesn't believe the Bible
he has a different bible (and believes the watchtower), and a different jesus (an angel), and a different holy spirit (impersonal)

The KJV said holyspirit is "IT" Numbers 11:17 , fight it