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advocate666:
All these office generals sef.

None of them have ever seen any war front.

Adeosun has been to the fronts against Boko Haram. He's easily one of the most respected combabants in the NA.

careytommy37:
Good one from the Donald. The useless UK ambassador used condescending words on the US President. He deserves whatever words Trump uses on him.

Do you know what condescending means? He was not addressing Trump. He was addressing his own government in a confidential transmission.

Praizeupdates:
Well as you all know, Popular investigative journalist will always do her findings well when it comes to matters like this. According to Kemi Olunloyo Findings about Busola and Pastor Fatoyinbo rape saga, She claim Busola sisters didnt postor involve their selves in the online campaign against the pastor, she also revealed that Busola and her family went to the church for a very long time before they decided to leave.

She also claim that according to findings, Busola Dakolo was always happy when pastor Fatoyinbo is around and this gave her sisters and her mother a suspicious actions against Busola.Kemi Olunloyo has done alot of findings about this rape allegation before concluding that Busola Dakolo was never raped it was consensual.

Watch Video below

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzqimy9FSfG/?hl=en

Gist From Praizenews ; http://www.praizenews.com/according-to-my-findings-busola-dakolo-was-never-raped-she-lied-kemi-olunloyo/

Kemication. Sounds like fornication.

odiereke:
This is a serious issue, which only God can intervene in.

Yeah. Someone tries to poison you and you continue to live with her under the same roof, praying to God to change her. Some people get mind o!

You ask if there’s anything you teach that is not in the Bible? Plenty. Do you have the whole day? Anyway, I already showed you some – like house to house. But as soon as you read all this, you’d go do “research”. You won’t think critically. Or read Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the New Testament. Or go find an encyclopedia. Or pray for the Holy Spirit. Or read materials written by renowned by Bible scholars. You’d just “do research”. Your puppet masters are so good at it that they’ve managed to convince you that not allowing you to read some classes of books (e.g. those written by pastors or folks from any religion) is good for you. Because you don’t understand how mind control works, you’re happy.

That’s why someone would throw away his military career to chase a Brooklyn bridge thinking it’s a bridge to God. As if he’d fold his hands and do “harmless dove” if his wife and kids are attacked by club-wielding robbers. Or Boko Haram. Well, maybe he would - "God's arrangement" says so. But what do I know? Forward march to God’s Kingdom where there’d be no more war and violence. For the here and now, “the Bible says” it’s a horrible sin to defend innocent villagers against killers – God wants us to leave them to be slaughtered!

HumanHairLovers:
Thank-You for taking me on quickly

Acts 20:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.


Acts 5:42 New International Version (NIV)

42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.

Acts 10:42 New Living Translation
And he ordered us to preach everywhere and to testify that Jesus is the one appointed by God to be the judge of all—the living and the dead

He commanded them to preach thoroughly.


Jesus himself gave the command himself

Matthew 10:11-14 New International Version (NIV)

11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

No Jw preaches what Jw church teaches.
The Bible teaches the only way to understand the Bible and that is how Jesus, his disciples and each of us learn the Bible

Luke 24:27,32
And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

32 They asked each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?”

The Bible is a complete book.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


Have you seen anything that Jw teaches or do that is not in the Bible?

We're no prophets. And the Bible does not teach they'll be prophets of God today.

1) Does the shouting your so called church preachers do shouting in every corner up and down claiming they're preaching biblical?



2)Is it biblical to explain the Bible with your own understanding?


3)I hear you guys have prophets. What do they do? Prophecy about their church members or to themselves or what? Have they ever prophesied anything that is beyond what is in the Bible? Tell me please one of the prophecies?

1. Acts 20:20 “You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.”

These are the words of Paul the apostle. Was he speaking to or referring to unbelievers? No. He was speaking to the elders of the Ephesian church (See verse 17). So this was Paul talking about visiting and teaching his fellow Christians in their houses. And that, people, is the sum total of scriptural authority relied upon for going house to house with unbelievers by Human Hair and her JW brethren.

Oh, there are other scriptures? Ok, let’s see.

Acts 5:42. Here, Luke the physician reports that the disciples went house to house. This could easily have amounted to visiting their brethren at their homes like St Paul did. I mean, we can easily explain this verse by Acts 20. This verse is not sufficient for us to conclude that the disciples did preach house to house because other instances demonstrate that they were in the habit of speaking to gatherings.

Say again. I’m twisting scripture? Ok. Let’s say Acts 5:42 does support your position and some disciples actually preached house to house. What about “Jesus himself”?

Matthew 10:11-14. First read the whole chapter and not merely lift those that suit your agenda.

Done? Good.

The contents of Matthew 10 are also found in Luke 10. In this chapter, Jesus sends out the 70 disciples to… drive out evil spirits and heal the sick. Yes, that’s verse one of Matt 10 – nothing about proselytising. In verse 7 he asks them to declare the good news but adds that they heal the sick and chase out demons. This was the commission.

House visit is mentioned in verse 11 but this is not house to house. He says when you find a welcoming person, stay here. The way this happened in the old days was you camp at someone’s house and other villagers came to listen to you there. This was Jesus’ model of preaching - he would visit a house or a place camp there: Mary and Martha’s house; Zaccheus’ house; Olive, etc. All the records we have of him in the Bible are of crowds listening to him; there is no single record of him going house to house. But maybe you have one – afterall you know Bible. The Jesus model is what the churches try to re-enact today when they hold a crusade and crowds come to listen – just like the sermon on the mount. And this has proved far more effective for “soul-winning” than the unbiblical house to house to method. (I can prove that.)

But Jesus was not silent about house to house preaching – so nobody can really claim ignorance. He spoke about house to house. Clearly. Matthew omits it from his record of 70-disciple mission but Luke does not. So in Luke 10:5-7, we read: 5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you. 7 Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house. (NIV)
New World Translation (7): “So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages. Do not keep transferring from house to house.”

Here is “Jesus himself” expressly forbidding house to house preaching to unbelievers in the same mission you referenced by quoting Matt 10.

You see how easy it is to con you when you let someone else read and emphasise the verses he likes to you while you don’t question his interpretation?

2. You did not answer what you’d do if there’s a conflict. I know what you’d do – you won’t pray for understanding. You’d do “research” – not from encyclopedia or other religious books (which you’re forbidden from reading), but from your church’s books. (Yes, you have the “truth” but you’re not allowed to interrogate it by reading outside your religion. Sounds like being “the most open-minded”, doesn’t it?) That is, when in doubt of your church’s teachings or facing a conflict, you would go read more of the same materials that poisoned your mind in the first place, not to find any objective truth but to reaffirm that you’ve been thought (“the truth”) is the truth. Brilliant, isn’t it?

3. You have no idea. Actually, you people have claimed to be prophets. Yes, you “do claim so”.

The Watchtower. April 1, 1972. pp. 197–200. - states that God had raised Jehovah's Witnesses as a prophet "to warn (people) of dangers and declare things to come".

The Watchtower. May 1, 1997. p. 8.- identifies the Witnesses as God’s "true messengers ... by making the messages he delivers through them come true", in contrast to "false messengers", whose predictions fail.

Commissioned to Speak in the Divine Name. Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. 1971. pp. 70, 292.which describes Witnesses as the modern Ezekiel class, "a genuine prophet within our generation".

So are you prophets or not? You look confused.

[quote author= post=80050026]She went too far, bearing in mind that the mother is even late![/quote]Poem is in bad taste. But send her to prison for it? No wonder they call us "third world".

HumanHairLovers:
You're more to be pitied.

You know little or nothing about Jehovah's witnesses.

But you think you know them.

We're the most open minded people in the world.

Who in the whole world forces doctrines on people than churches? What is more dogmatic than feeding people with teachings without authoritative support (i.e on the bible)


Does that make sense to you?
Where is that done?


No one! I repeat No Jw is forced to accept their teachings. Not even their kids.

Everyone is properly taught and asked to go and make their own findings and if they find out otherwise they are free to go.
Same thing Jesus and his disciples did.Luke 24:13, 27, 32. Acts 17:10, 11. 1 Thess. 2:13.


And we would not say a single thing without backing it with the scriptures. 1st timothy 3:16,17


You think they spend hundreds of hours to go to people's house to force teachings on people. Who would spend that much time just to force somebody?

Unlike churches that would hand you flier and tell you just come to church. You tell me what is more dogmatic?


We only desire to reason with people from the bible.


I can only spend time with you if you are ready to be logical. Anything less than that i'll end the discussion.


if you give me a logical point, best i'll do is i'll tell you please let me go and think about this and make some research.


And I repeat you know nothing about God's word! You can't spend the whole Sunday dancing and shouting and expect to know the bible.

Or pack some concocted knowledge from hearsay and say you want to defend the bible. I bet you even a JW kid would school you! John 17:3 PROVERBS 2:3-5.

Your post is, frankly, hilarious and appears to show you don't get it at all.

But, ok. I'll take you on quickly. Just three points to show that you're a programmed computer who know nothing about the Bible and has zero understanding of coercive persuasion and how it's being used on you to manipulated you into thinking you're free.

1. What does the Bible say about house to house preaching? Is it biblical?

2. As a Witness, can you read the Bible for yourself and interprete it how you truly see it? If there's a difference between your thoughts and what you read or between what the Bible says and what JW church teaches, would you humbly pray for understanding or read more of what JW teaches?

3. Are Jehovah's Witnesses prophets or not?

There are 100 more, but let's stick with these three.

HumanHairLovers:
You know what you have?

1) Lack of knowledge

2) Pride


Did you say, "what we believe isn't what really matters"?

John 17:3
New International Version
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.


Romans 10:2
New International Version
For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge


James 2:14
New King James Version (NKJV)

What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?



Matthew 7:21-24
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?'

Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

"Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.



Romans 10:13-15 King James Version (KJV)
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!


Use your tongue and count your teeth

You know the difference between you and me? I, at least, know knowledge is relative - that we can't really claim to now as long as we're in the flesh. You, on the other hand, think you know. You're not prepared to countenance any other view because, in your own eyes, you have the truth already. That's why you rattle off a string of scriptures like a computer, believing that once you quote a book the argument is won and lost. If I had the energy I'd rattle off scriptures of my own and show you how little you know even that Bible. But what would it matter?

I know people who spend hours reading the Bible and sweating and fasting and praying and meditating to understand it. Not you. Someone does that for you and spoonfeed you a pre-packaged interpretation. He can wake up tomorrow Monday and change it. Then wake up Tuesday and go back to the interpretation he gave you on Sunday. Then Wednesday change it again. And you'd say it's all light getting brighter and cite the scripture. That is the sum total of your religious life. Yea, I'm the one who lacks knowledge. And proud - for acknowledging that I know nothing. But I doubt you can even comprehend any of this - your types are like robots. Anyway, like I said, who cares?

HumanHairLovers:
They don't have prophets and they don't claim to be prophets.

The Bible doesn't support that there would be prophets in our time. Neither do we claim so.


Our understanding of the Bible made us understand that God's kingdom started ruling in 1914.

It was that understanding that we had. We felt that that kingdom extended to the earth but which wasn't true.

But that 1914 heralded the reign of Christ was true.

Our understanding of the Bible is not complete but what we hold is the truth. If it needs to be adjusted we would humbly do so as far it is in line with the Bible and not man's thought.

Just aa Daniel account helps us understand that the true knowledge would become abundant at the end of times. Dan 12:4

So that means all understanding won't definitely be clear at one single time.

Just the same it wasn't for the apostles. Matt 24: 1-14.


Today as we study the Bible and our understanding becomes clearer we adjust to the truth.


Which is not the same with other religions who claim they're the custodians of spiritual truth when they're clear evidence from the Bible that their teachings are filled with lies.


They don't want to change or adjust. They forget that the light of the righteous keeps getting brighter & brighter.


For example we first celebrated Christmas, but when we found out that it wasn't in the Bible we stopped it immediately.

Can you say that for others?

Now that is one out of a thousand.

Every single thing you said here can be debunked clearly and conclusively. But life must be easy when all you have to do is read what someone else wrote and repeat it as truth. So I guess I'll leave you to enjoy since what we believe isn't what really matters.

HumanHairLovers:
Jesus apostles were wrong many times

What matters is that they admit they were wrong.

The prediction you're talking about was not wrong anyway. Go make your findings.

Does your church ever admit they're wrong?

The light of the righteous keeps getting brighter and brighter, says the Holy Book

The righteous would stumble even 7 times and still stand up, says the word of God

So do they? Do JWs admit they're wrong?

yesloaded:


Toyota should come & have their manufacturing plant here as well

I wonder what Elizade is doing about that. You can stand on a Nigerian road and six cars to pass you in a row will all be Toyotas. Yet you hardly see them do CSR like MTN and co and they have no assembly plant here.

Stevewonder004:
The vice principal started it,
why will you as a vice principal not even a teacher add up your student on your social network?
That means if you eat them will know if you no come see chop them go still know.
As for me iam not even a teacher but i don't accept my junior students friendship request on social media and i have my reasons............
They can join the the school social media platforms such as groups or pages but not in my personal account until they graduate but if i sees you as someone who has respect and a better dream for tomorrow i dont mind adding you up but i must warn you that our chat its only meant for, when you have a problem and you need my assistance............
I know most of you will say this and dat but experience have taught me better...
You never see anything until them go dig your unsuspected dirty act in school and bring it out,
post it on your own wall,
advertise it as if its there future.
Wise up man............
Mingle with those that shares same views with, interact with them, then you go out and listen to those that are behind you

That may be his own approach. Some choose to be aloof; other choose to engage. From what he said, he's the engaging type. And it appears it had been working for him.

AmazonHippolyta:
At least you have agreed that that is what they want in a relationship. Hope you all will not complain and call them leeches and goldiggers when they start asking for money?
Nigerian men are the reasons why ladies ask for money because they believe money is the only thing they can offer a woman

True to a large extent. Nigerian men played a huge role in creating the monster they now complain about.

When you see a sister smiling at you in a funny way, run. Run!

Enoch Adeboye, 2019!

OkirikaDealer:
Now the fulani's will have a stronger competitor, Igbo men fit even chance them for the business las las

They won't. Not with the statement above. If you want to do business, don't go "declaring intention." Don't ask the government for money (who does that?! And when did Igbo men start waiting for the government for money to do business?) Just do it. Start small and grow the business. Forget about making noise or "chancing" anyone and you'll grow and get there with time.

Adeleke is barely literate, hardly someone I'd want as my governor. But this supreme court ruling has K leg.

Ultimatezlant:
So I don't think you are in this country, bayelsa is top 3 earners in allocation and has 8 LGA half of which is occupied by water yet not making significant progress.


Dickson can't even pay salaries

Well, you probably correct. But he seems to have done well in infrastructure. I understand that he cut salaries when allocation went down (after oil prices dropped), as that was the only way to keep up with infrastructural development. But it appears you don't see it that way.

Ultimatezlant:
I just hope the rest south south states are hearing Edo is building the best Secretariat even without borrowing.


Okowa the imp, with his bald fiend in bayelsa and incompetent Buffon in cross river better step up their game.


Wike can keep using rivers money to finance PDP national problems

I don't think the Bayelsa gov has done too badly.

Tolexander:
Na wetin e go do for Kyrgyzstan?

Kyrgyzstan of all places?

Nigerians can travel to hustle o.

It is high time we let our people know that though Nigeria is not so good, but the situation is better than the situation in many countries

He may have been a tourist. It's actually a very beautiful country. This is sad.

valuedammy:
He can't get my accolade on this, this is an already finished project.
What I want from him now is to fix all the pot-holes on all the major roads in Lagos as soon as possible. Guys you need to the deplorable state of our roads they really need urgent attention!

Finished? Go and mill your rice on it. That thing won't be complete for another year. It's because of people like you that governors abandon old project, no matter how good, and start new ones.

prolog3111:
Any Governor who tries to defile the throne of the Oba of Benin will not live to tell the story. By the way, believe it it not Governor Obaseki is my uncle.

You're knaive. People respect you when you respect yourself. If the oba gets involved in partisan politics something would give.

Swtcherries:
Nobody holy pass, the pastor have stepped down, so why the noise?

Timi is acting like a saint whereas he got her pregnant two times before marriage, that woman must have had a crush on the pastor during her teenage age, I think its a consentual sex, if not why coming out now after all these years to tanish his image? That's after the pastor and the husband had a misunderstanding. Mad couple..

I am not in support of rape but we need to think logically.

And logical you are. Spreading your own rumours in a thread opened to debunk other rumours. Very logical.

Kundagarten:
Your reference to stalled governance is hyperbolic.
Just remember his dad was revered because he stayed clear of politics. He should emulate his dad.

I don't share the bolded view. First off, nobody is bound to act like his father - you, Mr Kundagarten, are not. He's a new king. Times change. I like, for example, the way he goes to places where there's a major land dispute instead of sitting back at his place. He's a modern leader.

I understand where many Edo people are coming from in this matter since they're used to seeing the oba stay put in one place. But with time you'all would get used to the new era. It's good he has done nothing to cheapen his office or disrespect himself so far by taking sides. That's why he has not directly spoken to Obaseki and Oshiomhole on the matter.

Kundagarten:
Whether it appears biased is out of the question. Next time there's a feud in PDP, PDP supporters would expect him to get involved and settle the palaver.
There's a reason his dad stayed away from politics. Watching events in Kano between Ganduje and Sanusi, only an ignoramus would advise the Oba to get involved.
Oba gha to kpere. Ise.

I doubt the bolded. This one is a matter of stalled governance - nobody wants that. As long as he doesn't criticise anyone (that's Sanusi's specialty) or allies himself to any side, he'd be fine. Very fine. He knows - that's why he's been very smart about it.

Dedetwo:
Even in 1892, Oba of Idu made sense only in a backwater empire or village empire.

Another Nairaland kid. Incendiary cusses overlay his tongue. His fingers drip expletives and abuses. He loves his ignorance - "Benin was a village empire in 1892". Sadly, he reflects the modern Nigerian kid. It's a crying shame.

follock007:
Still it doesn't call for somebody who is permanently stationed as a middle hole or core of a habitat to start shape-shifting openly for whatever it may worth... I am sure you understand what secret service is all about...

When last did Oba Ewuare travel? How many times has he shifted since be became king?

follock007:
I think what you have said here is nothing but a misguided fable of unscrupulous tribal manipulation that is the basis for all the fire that is burning the entire house... the lands of the world was not divided today and in spite of various military treaties and social education, i am gobsmacked that people still do not understand the meaning of separation of powers with boundaries to maintain... What does it matter if a king sleeps all day while his empire is still growing out there without making it to look like a sport show which is clearly outlawed in today's politics? I don't see anything wrong with the king who is a central host in his own domain with the reserved ability to settle issues do so without getting seen trying to hobnob with higher political powers... They are already seen as people who have conquered and resting having become king but this one looks like trying to do stuff by himself as if it is a difficult task or as somebody involved in a war campaign to grab more lands or rights... I am confused jare

Yea, you do seem a bit confused. But your post is funny, I won't lie. Like I already said in another post, I don't think a direct intervention by him would work. That's why I don't share your view.

AutoReportNG:
* Traffic lights are also suggestions. Red means go. Green means go. Yellow means go. Basically, just go. It’s always a pleasant surprise when a driver adheres to the traffic light.

Lol.
This is a gross exaggeration. Most Lagos drivers obey red light in most places.

Dedetwo:
Are you a learner? Obaseki has more authorities in his finger tips than the so-called Oba of Benin.

Some people are stuck in 1892. They think the oba is their ruler; they don't know it's Obaseki.

maestroferdi:
Was this how the former Oba meddled into politics?

How is this meddling?

RZArecta2:
The Oba left his throne and travelled all the way to Abuja like a common hustler just because of a problem he could easily solve in his palace within 30 minutes Am missing something here or this guy doesn't know the amount of power he wields as Oba of Benin ?

If you think the oba can order Oshiomhole and Obaseki to order, you're gravely mistaken. If he intervenes directly like that and the fight continues (which it likely will), he will lose his respect. He knows this, that's why he's intervening indirectly like this. This is the best he can do.