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Anas09:
Which was the first one? And, another reason i registered Analice is because, the Muslims wont believe am not male. They kept refering to me as 'him', because a muhammed companion was Anas bin Malik. I didnt know about that until i joined Nairaland.
I think this is the main reason i registered another account.

I don't blame them o, made the same mistake myself

Anas09:
Well, it made me feel special, that's why i didn't say anything

Lolz, are you now able to do it?

Anas09:
I get bans alot as Anas so i registered Analice. So yes i am both.

Another surprise

Anas09:
Am a lady

Well am surprised, and have been addressing you as sir in our last discussion and you didn't say anything

Anas09:
Seriously speaking, and i still haven't been able to do it.

It's simple, just make sure what you're quoting is between [.quote] and [./quote], that's all.
What you're quoting should begin and end with respectively [.quote] and [./quote] then write your comment after the [./quote].
Look up my post where I was Practicing and compare with this(that was how it looks before posting it and remember to remove the dot I put in d [.quote] and [./quote] in d example):

[.quote author=Anas09 post=49966467]Goshen360. I thought you had left NL. Good to see you.[./quote]
Practicing [.quote]
Me, i cant even break a long post segs by segs to answer it.[./quote] Practicing [quote]This one u r explaining is level for me. Tanks anyways, i will come back when my phone ba3 is charhed.[./quote] Practicing [.quote]Thanks again.[./quote]

Notice where I put the word "Practicing"
I hope this helps, you can break up this post to see whether you get it.
If you still have question, feel free to ask.

Deicide:
Let's say this is True which i doubt. What does it proves? That Yahweh is Real and Allah or Zeus is not? Or that Sango is real and Amadioha Is not?

The article is not about the existence of God or who the real God is, it is simply to proof the continuous existence of man after the so called death.

Anas09:
Goshen360. I thought you had left NL. Good to see you.

Practicing

Me, i cant even break a long post segs by segs to answer it.

Practicing

This one u r explaining is level for me. Tanks anyways, i will come back when my phone ba3 is charhed.

Practicing

Thanks again.

Anas09:
Goshen360. I thought you had left NL. Good to see you.

Practicing

Me, i cant even break a long post segs by segs to answer it.[quote]This one u r explaining is level for me. Tanks anyways, i will come back when my phone ba3 is charhed. Thanks again.

Anas09:
Thanks. I appreciate.

You welcome

Anas09:
Can you pls send me Dr Ali Sina's emial address?

faithfreedom2@gmail.com

oaroloye:
SHALOM!


To enter Heaven takes TWO things:
1. The minimum Spiritual POWER.
2. The required Spiritual VIBRATORY RATE.
People for this all the time.

Please explain

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

Anybody exposing themselves to Satanic Spirits deserves whatever they get.

I totally agree with you sir, one shouldn't expose himself to the lower spirits influence.

Anas09:
You know what? It doesnt matter to you. You have chosen to belive the spirit of dead men and their mesaage of love, whatever that means.

Have actually also asked you not to bother replying that message, maybe you didn't see it.

Anas09:
It doesnt matter to you does not mean it doesn't to us. Lolzz. We shall know all things soon enough.

OK

justlove91:
OK to answer your question let me ask you: What do you think it takes to enter heaven? Then we can BOTH see whether it is rational or not.

Don't bother replying to this as I know we will just begin another vicious cycle of discussion that wouldn't lead any where.
Why don't you take the challenge I wrote of and do yourself the honor of finding out the truth yourself?

Anas09:
I follow Ali Sina as much as you. Ali Sina is now a Christian. He identifies himself as such. I have read emails he got from his athiests friends on Faithgreedom.org who express their disappointment in his decision. Somany deserted him, but that is who he is now.

And, Christians have a pattern of prayer different from Islam or the other religions.
Except you want to deny that.

OK I hear you, can we please forget this issue? The truth is I don't care in the least whether he is a Christian or not, that is just another label and which I don't take serious like I said earlier.

Anas09:
Okay. Here i am now keeping an open mind. What is the simple and rational truth?

OK to answer your question let me ask you: What do you think it takes to enter heaven? Then we can BOTH see whether it is rational or not.

Anas09:
My limited, restricted Biblical dogma you say? Really.

Compared to these beings my Bible is limited and restricted? Really?


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Wait... As far as you are concerned who are these beings exactly? And what is their contribution to humanity?

I think we may have to end this discource here becos its begining to veer into insults.

I have to tell you this, STOP MEASURING FACT AGAINST YOUR BELIEF OR DOCTRINE, the fact is, your belief or doctrine is what you're suppose to measure against fact.
Your belief or doctrine shouldn't be the one to determine the credibility of a fact rather fact is the one suppose to determine the credibility of your belief or doctrines.
I can tell from your words that you read little or non about spiritualistic teachings but of course, you wouldn't want anything to do with "demonic teachings". There teachings are not in harmony with God's infallible word Bible so theses MUST be the one that is wrong.
But you should know that anybody can claim his holy book is infallible, that's just a subjective assessment of the so called holy book. I also COMPLETELY believed the Koran was holy and infallible then, but I was open minded enough to hear what others (christians, atheist etc) have to say about it because like I said my view of it is only subjective and I have to examine what others say of it to determine whether that belief of my has any objective reality and am sure you know what I find out in the end.
I belief that to know what people think of me. it's not enough to only ask those who like me alone because they might not want to tell me some things they find disagreeable about me or they might even be blinded by their love to see it, so it's also important to notice what your enemies say about you, even though they might exaggerate some things, but they will be able to see more clearly your bad behavior or side than your friends.
It is with this mentality that, maybe there are some things wrong in the Koran that I was just blinded by my view of it. I read ex Muslims stories, atheists and Christians view of the Koran, though they exaggerated some things am able to come to the conclusion that they can fairly see clearly more than me.
I will urge you to do the same with the Bible, have an open mind, read what Muslims, atheists etc say about it, try to look at there points from there perspective and determine whether they're telling the truth or not.
The truth is not what we've been told we've been lied to, the truth is much more SIMPLE and RATIONAL.

Blackfire:
ihiala local government... in anambra state .... in Nigeria.... in west Africa.

Thank you

Anas09:
What pit did they fall into?


Which mistakes did they make while alive and what has their mistake caused them?


What are they warning us agaisnt?

Lolzzz. Observing stupid rituals indeed. I don't observe any rituals. Am a christian and as a Christian, Christ enjoins me to worship him in spirit and in truth. No rituals.

So there's time and energy in the spirit world?

You know? You are very so funny, you neglect and call the teachings of Christ "Limited and restricted", yet you choose to believe the preaching of the spirits of the dead.
To you the infomation they give is an act if love? YOU MEAN HE KIND OF INFORMATION LUCIFER GAVE TO EVE IN EDEN which landed them where we all are today?

Have you in your entire life ever picked a copy of the Holy Bible to read anything about Jesus Christ of Nazareth? Not the one you knew from the koran (because they are distinct characters) or do you want me to flood this thread with the teahings of Jesus christ about love?

Listen dear, Christ never had any other message other than love.

See how christians get killed everyday by muslims, yet we dont reply. Do you think we can't? Its easier to do violence than to hold back. But we hold back. Anyone of us who becomes a muslim, immidiately starts killing the same people he was at peace with, thats to tell you anyone can do it.

The love of Christ is what restrains us.

I have asked you countless times to tell me the contributions these beings have made, and all you can say is " Love". Can their peaching about love be more than the one Christ did?


Guy, you are decieved by DEMONS. FAMILIAR SPIRITS, EVIL SPIRITS MASQUARADING AS GOOD SPIRITS.

You know I have Christian friends that I discuss this things with sometimes and have learnt that no matter what I say they never listen ie I can't convince them that is the reason why when you at the beginning of this discourse said that you don't want to engage me because you will look that this from the Bible point of view I also agree because I don't think this can be any different from my experience.
So for the record you agree that this phenomenon called mediumship does occur like I also belief, our disagreement lies in the identity or personality of the beings responsible for it.
You completely belief these beings are actually demons parading themselves as good to deceive people that have been deceived by them.
While I still maintain that though I can't call all of them good there are evil one's among them, there are also very good one's among them, how you stand or what one is will determine who one attracts. And because of that I don't think we should completely stay away from this phenomenon called mediumship.
Its been nice talking with you and to let you know, am not against you because I was once a Muslim and you're a Christian no, I take this as a conversation between two human beings without the label of Christian or ex Muslim. So I can fairly say am rid off islam and all labels, I see myself and others has human being, everything else is a label which I don't take serious.

Anas09:
My limited, restricted Biblical dogma you say? Really.

Compared to these beings my Bible is limited and restricted? Really?


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Wait... As far as you are concerned who are these beings exactly? And what is their contribution to humanity?

I think we may have to end this discource here becos its begining to veer into insults.

Am sorry if that sounds like insult to you I just expressed how your argument sounds to me, again sorry no offence intended.

Anas09:
Does he sound like someone who doesn't believe in Christ' salvation? He needs God to save and deliver him
from the power of darkness, yet doesnt believe in Christ the way i do?
How do you know the kind of Christ i believe in sef?

I think you have not weaned yourself off Islam, no offends intended.

It's funny how you believe you possess God, so because someone says he needs God's help it means he is talking about Jehovah? There is nothing in his request that points that he believes in Christ salvation. Wake up

Anas09:
I tried copying the links, i couldnt.
Ali sina is a Chriatian sir. A chriatian is a follower of Christ's teachings. I dont know the kind of Christian u think i am.

If he doesn't beleive in salvation he wont direct people to Christ.

I later saw the post where Ali sina requested for prayer, I wonder what he is passing through, all the same I pray for strength to be given him to come out of that.

Anas09:
You don't believe in them doesn't mean they don't exist. And they are the best in hiding. For instance, right now they are hiding their true identity from you masquarading as good spirits. Just allow them take you as a host and see how your end will be.
Lol.

So because there teachings contradict your limited restricted Biblical dogma you think there're demons? Cool..

Anas09:
I know one who preached love and he gave something to express it. I shouldn't be the one to tell u what the beings shd give to humanity. Humanity didnt ask Christ to give them anything, He just.gave.

That is the question I shd ask you since you believe in them and belive their preaching of love.

I asked that question, dont turn it around. What have they done for humanity to express their love?

You believe them becos they preach love. lol.

OK like I said, I have answered this your question in my post, maybe you didn't read it but here it is again.
Like I said, billions of people have died and the fact that these few decide to come and reveal what matters in the end is an act of love, or don't you think, because they can likewise decide to leave us in our ignorance and do nothing, but the fact that they spend there time, energy to educate us is an expression of love.
Also, they warn us not to fall in the same pit they fall and not to make the same mistakes they made.
Likewise, they let us know what is important and matters in the end which is how you live your live thus saving us the trouble of spending useful time in observing stupid ritual and beliefs that add nothing to one's spirituality.
Are those not acts of love?
If you have information that will help your fellow man and you share it, is that not an act of love?
If you see a fellow man about to fall into the same mistake you were once a victim and you decide to tell him the consequence of that choice to save him from experiencing the same ill fate, is that also not an expression of love?

Topgainer:
Quite often I hear Christians dismiss the accounts of the dead living amongst us with the word Familiar Spirits.
The concept of the dead relatives living among the neighborhood where they were known is as old as human existence and it is very different from Familiar Spirit.
Judaism recognized that and most old religions as well including our own traditional religion.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Were these familiar spirits? No
In another place, the Bible talked about Jesus going to the Land of the dead, following His Crucifixion, preaching to the dead and rescuing the godly(dead) who were held captive by the dark forces and retrieving the Keys of the Prison which was hitherto in the hands of Satan.
Were these familiar spirts? No.
Theological studies posited that why Jesus lingered a few more days after the reported death of Lazarus was to prove that he had the power to recall Lazarus who may have wandered far away from the neighborhood at his death by the 3rd day.
Because according to the Jews at that time, a dead person hangs around his/her relatives only for a very few days (may be a day or two) within which the person could be revived.
It is appointed unto man once to die and after that Judgement that is often quoted from the book of Hebrews by the proponents of familiar spirits is not enough to totally dismiss the other concepts of the dead soul engaging in some activities after death.
Eccl talks about birth and death, Christianity added Resurrection(Judgement). In between birth and death there are engagements moreso between death and resurrection there are equally periods of engagement, if not the concept of Lazarus and the Rich man, or the dead saints who were held prisoners and were preached to, in a particular corner would not arise.
By and large, we are not alone on planet earth.

I totally agree with your conclusion, we are not alone on planet earth.

[quote author=Anas09 post=49818692][/quote]You and this your demon

Topgainer:
There are plenty of mediums in Nigeria, the methods may differ but that is what they are. They collect a token to enable the affair run smoothly just like David Johnson was quick to add that to have him display his wares it comes with footing some bills.

I was watching Prophet Chris Okafor of talknado fame invoke the dead spirit of a village witch into a woman during a Sunday Live Service, the said spirit spoke at length as he(Chris) queried and wearied it out.
"Talk, who are you? what are you doing in this body? What have you done to this woman and her family? What have you done to her career? "
In the actual sense, the mannerism of the woman suddenly changed to that of the late popular Witch ( from the same town) who has now possessed her.
The Bible warned us of consultations with mediums more so now that the art is wide spread and easily learned. It called it abominable. Many of the newly commissioned mediums are out for business and the best business there is, is to give it a Christian undertone and make much profit in the name of seed offering and partnership to take the 'gospel' to the world.
Keep away from Mediums, Occultist and Promoters of Metaphysics. It doesn't pay at the end

Why I totally agree with you that mediumship is dangerous, I don't quite think we've to in the light of that totally do away with it. It is important to know that this phenomenon has condition and law on which it works, it has been studied extensively, and why we can't say we know everything about it, we can fairly say we know enough to protect ourselves from it's danger and thus, exploit its advantages.
Because like you rightly said, evil human spirit can influence a medium and if they can do this, it is reasonable to conclude that the good ones can also influence the medium, so why shot the door on them.
And to think of the fact that mediumship is a gift to its possessor just like any other ones like art, music etc and can't just conclude they don't want it, so if one have the gift, why not try to learn about it and develop it to serve it rightful purpose.

Anas09:
You lack understand. Only one person sacrificed his life for all, and i never said the beings must offer themselves as an act of love.
I only drew and infference using Jeaus Christ. He preached unconditional love by giving to us what we wouldn't give to ourselves, and we never deserved it and didnt even know we needed it. On that bases i asked you, If these beings are preaching love (which can't be expressed wirhout giving), what have they given to mankind is the question. They can't give their lives, they are dead. Christ didnt give his life when he had died.

What did they do for us to express their love for us.

No one can love without giving.

I have answered this question already. ok, like what do you want from them, what would you have them give to express there love? just curious to know sir.

Anas09:
Whatever you go, pls go on.

It seems you still strongly believe that nothing good can ever come out of mediumship, all thesame thanks for all your advice to be cautious and goodluck

Blackfire:
I am a Nigerian. we 've mediums here also.. in my village in okija .
my dear 've u heard of familiar spirit?....

Okija, which state?

Anas09:
I tried copying the links, i couldnt.
Ali sina is a Chriatian sir. A chriatian is a follower of Christ's teachings. I dont know the kind of Christian u think i am.

If he doesn't beleive in salvation he wont direct people to Christ.

Well I believe he is not a Christian because:
1. He doesn't believe in Jesus death has atonement for sins.
2. He doesn't believe in eternal damnation as preached in the Bible.
3. He believed the Bible is a gold mine meaning not everything in the Bible is useful.
If you think this kind of person with these kinds of beliefs can also be called a Christian, then I also call him and myself a Christian.