Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:37pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: LagisIsMyHome had already provided the answer to this. Including a valid link on the UKVI website, which clearly stated that Money must be in DEPENDANT or MAIN APPLICANT’s account. That is very clear. But Justwise’s argument was that that portion did not outrightly exclude Mother-in-Law’s account.
Even after drawing his attention, he went on.
My dear brother Justwise, I understand that sometimes one mixes up Tier 4 vs Visitor vs Tuwr 2 etc... On this matter, on tier-4 you were wrong. Mother in law’s bank account CANNOT be used for daughter in-law applying as DEPENDANT of mother in law’s son.
Let’s move beyond this, and see how we can be able to help other applicants with other questions.
As for this matter, even if 1,000,000 cover letters are written, it’s a NO NO NO.
Let’s move on I completely disagree with you on this, the rule is not clear on this issue and it’s a loophole which can be explored. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:26pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: I don’t need to do that because I follow UKVI rules not Justwise’s gut feelings. My gut feelings is derived from UKVI rules |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:23pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Please do well to continue with the short answers, especially if the long ones make you to write a good answer in paragraph 1, then go ahead to mess up the good answer in paragraph 2 I think I have to as it helps those who can’t read and understand longer sentences. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:22pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
BouharryArtikou: Justwise. Just accept what laajiblik has been saying. You goofed on this one. Big time. You even wanted him to show you where the rules stated that mother in law cannot sponsor daughter in law. Yes I did and I’m still waiting for where that is stated and no I did not make any mistake on this issue. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:08pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Okay ohh. Justwise has changed the guidelines to now allow sons and daughter in-laws to use the bank statement of their mother-in-laws to apply for tier-4 dependant visa.
Let me ququ ma go and use my father’s bank account to apply for dependant visa for my son.
All I need to do (according to Justwise) is for my dad to write a letter that the money in HIS account is available for his GRANDSON whose father is a Tier-4 applicant himself. If that is your understanding then great go ahead and do that |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:05pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
BouharryArtikou: Justwise: You have provided valuable advice to people on this platform. You have done a good job. Keep it up. Please I beg you in God’s name, don’t give this kind of advice.
This is capable of making this guy to be refused a visa. What is wrong with advising him to tell his mother to transfer the money to his account?
Based on what you are saying, anyone can provide a statement and write a cover letter for dependant visa for anyone. Is that correct? You are obviously deliberately misleading people here because i never say that and i also stated that the mother can transfer the money into the son's account then they can apply together, did you read that part? There its again justwise: Why not, as long as the money is enough for the couple, transfer the money to the main applicant's account and apply together.
It will not be out of place for the embassy to have some doubt about the possibility of the mother expending that much on her son and daughter inlaw. To clear that..pay the fees and drop deposit for accommodation.
Lastly..during the interview main applicant should be able to explain if asked what the mother does for job and that the money will be available for them to be spent in the UK. One of the reasons why i hardly type lengthy answers here is because people can't be bothered to read beyond two lines. You completely misconstrue everything i wrote here for reasons best know to you |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 9:59pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Unfanthomable: lol.....Battle of the  ........................
To the person that asked the question, I hope you are not left more confused.....
To be safer, just let your mother transfer the money to you... Keep if for 28 days, print your statement and apply...Except if you have time constraints then you can use hers but ask yourself if they refuse you, won't you still wait?
No point going back and forth over this issue justwise: Why not, as long as the money is enough for the couple, transfer the money to the main applicant's account and apply together.
It will not be out of place for the embassy to have some doubt about the possibility of the mother expending that much on her son and daughter inlaw. To clear that..pay the fees and drop deposit for accommodation.
Lastly..during the interview main applicant should be able to explain if asked what the mother does for job and that the money will be available for them to be spent in the UK. I said this in my first reply here but it seems that people don't read that part |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 8:27pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: How many cover letters is that? 2? One for her son and one for her daughter in law?
Okay ohh. If Na be be ECO (which I’m not), I would kick out the application. Something is definitely not right.
Why should an ECO ‘waste’ time to read cover letter from mother-in-law?
What you are suggesting leaves the onus on the ECO to show some ‘understanding’.
But if an ECO is to go by the book, there is nowhere in the guidelines that qualifies a mother-InLaw’s bank statement to be used by a daughter-InLaw who is applying as a dependant.
My final thoughts on this JustWise: You may not be wrong about this, but leaving the decision to be at the discretion of ECO (after a long cover letter) doesn’t cut it for me at all. Since this is not an academic exercise, I think OP should simply ask his mama to transfer the funds to his account. Why not? Visa decision is always on ECO's discretion even when you met all conditions you can still be refused. One cover letter is all it takes consenting for the use of her bank account and the money on it. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 7:38pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Justwise, I understand you want to argue on this matter as though it were an academic exercise. But this your post is outrightly misleading.
I put it to you that your statement here is misleading. The guideline is CLEAR, very CLEAR on how proof of funds for a DEPENDANT can be got. Mother in Law is NOT, repeat NOT, I repeat NOT eligible to submit her account statement for her daughter in law.
I’m surprised that you are using YOUR OWN LOGIC to advice this guy, rather than direct him to the guidelines. Show me where in student visa guideline that it mentioned that a mother can not sponsor her son and daughter inlaw when the son is the main applicant. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 7:34pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: I am an old man, and my memory seem to be failing me. I do not recall the OP saying he wanted to use a Bank Loan.
Let us assume (without conceding) that he wishes to use a bank loan. Whose account statement will he submit? His own. In his name. Besides as per the T4 guidelines, if he has the money in his account for 28 days will there be somewhere on the statement to say it was a bank loan?
Why are you bringing bank loan issue into this? I think you are losing focus of the main point here, the man is the main applicant and wants to use his mum bank statement as his sponsor, your sticking point is that the mother can not sponsor the son and her daughter inlaw. My argument is that..yes she can sponsor them as long as she can afford it and they are able to convince the ECO that the money will be available in the UK to be used as a couple. I don't know if there is a section in student visa application form where source of income need to be indicated. The bank loan was just an example. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 6:40pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
MabraO: Justwise pls put me through
I want to all for student visa just finished my final year exam last week can I go ahead?
Also having issues with my names nd date of birth on my passport My certificate has a but in my passport there is an added name used as my surname Also my date of birth the one in my P is just different by month Can I go ahead? Pls I need ur salient advise Before you do anything make sure that the DOB and name in all your documents are the same. You need your result to apply for admission and if given then use the same result for student visa application |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 6:37pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Emerald27: Mr Justwise, you are just complicating this issue jare. It's not written ANYWHERE that mother in-law can sponsor daughter in-law. End of story. This is a no-brainer jor. The same way its not written anywhere that a mother can not sponsor his son and daughter inlaw |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 5:36pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Oh No... the issue is not about him using HIS mother’s money.
The issue is about him using his mothers money to apply for HIS own DEPENDANT. Yes and if he is going to use bank loan it will be for both of them unless he wants to travel alone. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 5:34pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
SAMDEEA123: 300k flight and local transport 150k to cover 10days accommodation 200k for food Contingency: 50k
Totaling: 700k On that budget you need a miracle to get a visa because of your salary level. Again it makes no sense that a married man on average salary is planing to spend more than 6 times of his monthly salary alone on a leisure trip. So the question is..of what benefit will this trip be to you and your family? |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 5:29pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Okay ohh. If Na be be ECO (which I’m not), I would kick out the application. Something is definitely not right with. If the student visa rule allows an applicant to use bank loan then what is wrong with using his mother's money for such application? |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 5:20pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Justwise, Kindly read what you wrote (bolded by me) and place it in context of the original question. Yes i saw that but still doesn't make much of a difference, he has to add his birth certificate if he is using his mum's bank statement and not transferring the money and his mum has to add a cover letter to support his application. The most important thing here is to convince the ECO that his mum is truly going to make that money available to be spent in the UK As a grown up adult, a married man even if he is applying a lone question will be asked why the mum is sponsoring him, this is why i stated before that its important for him to convince the ECO that the mum is more than capable to spend such amount on himself and the wife. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 4:19pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Justwise: Are you saying MY wife can use money in MY OWN MUMMY’s account for her prove if funds?
That means if my wife is the main applicant and she uses money in her FATHER’s account, then I too can use money in my FATHER IN LAW’s account?
Wow... I never knew that was possible. Why not, as long as the money is enough for the couple, transfer the money to the main applicant's account and apply together. It will not be out of place for the embassy to have some doubt about the possibility of the mother expending that much on her son and daughter inlaw. To clear that..pay the fees and drop deposit for accommodation. Lastly..during the interview main applicant should be able to explain if asked what the mother does for job and that the money will be available for them to be spent in the UK. |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 11:23am On Nov 28, 2019 |
Emerald27: He cannot use his mother's account for wife. Why not? |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 10:17am On Nov 28, 2019 |
Ola9292: Please I am traveling for my masters with my wife and I am using my mum’s statement of account. Will it work for both of us? Emerald27: Transfer the money to your account. You can only use your personal account or parents account not anybody else(not your mother inlaw, in the case of your wife) Plus it looks somehow, being married and using your parent's account to fund yourself and wife. What exactly are you talking about? |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 7:27am On Nov 28, 2019 |
SAMDEEA123: I intend to spend 10 days of my next annual leave in London which will begin in Mid February 2020. I work with a Federal Agency on a salary of N106,000. I am married with kids but I will be travelling alone because of the time my leave fell into. I have 1.8m account balance and 2000 USD on my dollar account. I don't have anyone inviting me, I am only going to explore London on my own. How do I go about my application I need advice How much do you plan to spend on this trip? |
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(mod): 1:35pm On Nov 27, 2019*. Modified: 6:51am On Nov 28, 2019 |
Olalekank: Where's your humour  Dude that was actually tongue in cheek comment, you failed to get that but managed to ask about my humour.? |
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(mod): 1:16pm On Nov 27, 2019 |
Lexusgs430: We're the Pro Bono institute..... Seun should be the one paying us..... Maybe he is kúkú paying, but justwise is not telling us..........  Send me your bank details or send it to Seun to receive my next pay on my behalf |
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(mod): 1:14pm On Nov 27, 2019 |
Southsky: Hello everyone,
I want to thank everyone on this thread for the amazing job you are doing. You guys help thousands of people without even knowing it.
My process was successful without stress and I just landed in the UK. Special thanks to Justwise and Lexusgs430 - I was even applying for the wrong visa if not for their guidance and they kept assisting me through out the process. Special thanks to fatima04, Hunnybee and Uglyduckling for answering my questions when I needed assistance. May God bless you all abundantly.
Short story: On my way from Obalende some time last month, a random guy's phone rang, he picked up and after listening for a while (the caller was somewhat distressed), he said "calm down, calm down, everything will be alright. Don't send any money to any agent, I will ask Justwise on [b]our forum to know if it's true and let you know once he replies". I smiled because I knew it could only be one Justwise. He has saved more hearts than any heart surgeon can imagine [/b]
To everyone who contributes on this thread, just know that you are helping lots of people out there and on behalf of all those who never came back to appreciate you all, I say THANK YOU!! As you help in making people's dreams come true, may everything you lay your hands upon prosper without limits and may all your dreams com true. Congratulations bro! I'm happy for you and your family. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 8:01am On Nov 27, 2019 |
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Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 7:09am On Nov 27, 2019 |
kode12: @justwise @zoey1 is this account statement okay? I had to open a savings dorm account and the school suggested Sterling, so the only transaction i have within the last 28 days is the transfer in of the funds and interest on it If the money on it meets the requirement then don't worry about lack of transactions |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(mod): 7:12am On Nov 26, 2019 |
LaaJiblik: Jobs Jobs JOB!!
When you think about job, think about Career. There have been people who enrolled for 2 year masters at all manner of ‘campuses’ in London because there are JOBS in London. These folks got plenty plenty jobs in hospitality, security, care, support etc. The ‘bad news’ is that these jobs do not offer T2 visas. These folks went back to Naija and have been bashing the UK system non-stop.
When you think JOBS, think CAREER progression too. He is asking about student job, part time jobs to survive on while studying. Graduate is not something you get while studying . |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 8:18pm On Nov 25, 2019 |
adespecial: Please I am a school proprietor of a secondary school ( not yet approved though) who intends to apply for a visit visa to u.k and I also have a vocational school where i train students on make up artistry and also sell cosmetics..... I dont have a stable salary but account is very active and i also have an investment account.
Kindly put me through on the documents i need to present as well as the minimum amount of money i must have in my savings account. My investment account is more than a million naira. What is your monthly income? |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 8:17pm On Nov 25, 2019 |
kunmikool: Please I need to know what to do next? Did you deposit some money into your salary account before making the application? Your budget for the trip outweighs your income which is not a good idea |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 8:09pm On Nov 25, 2019 |
Horlaidey007: please I need your advice I got 6-month visa without any invite even tho I have a sister and inlaw in the UK but I spent just 10 days as I indicated in my form. now my concern now is My sister want to now send IV letter to my husband and my self will this not contradict to what I have filled before. please, what do you advise? Should I apply for my 2 years myself? what about my Husband can we both apply without his sister sending any IV. Please, I need your advice we plan to apply by next year when my 6 months will have expired.
Please, we need your advice. If you have indicated before that you have nobody in the UK then you have to maintain that else you are likely to get refused and banned. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 7:03am On Nov 25, 2019 |
nuvieak: Please just wise can i have your whatsap number? Unfortunately no, I don't do private chat, I'm happy to answer questions here for the sake of transparency. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 7:01am On Nov 25, 2019 |
priscyspecial: Please how much can someone carry? Is $1,000 enough? What is the least cash? Please read this thread to understand how visiting visa application works, it is not about how much to carry, its about how much you earn and how much you plan to spend on the trip. So you need to do a budget for the trip and avoid spending more than two months of your monthly net income. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 6:56am On Nov 25, 2019*. Modified: 7:52am On Nov 25, 2019 |
ijeshaoflondon: Justwise and co, A friend applied for a visitor visa in August and was refused visa ... I advised him to send an email to complain against the refusal on 9th october. On the 29th October, He got a message that an ECM has agreed to review his application for reconsideration and that he'd be contacted after the decision. On the 07 Nov, He got anoda message that his UK visa application has been concluded by Visits UK and will shortly be dispatched and since then nothing has happened. What do you have to say about these as we are really confused. find attached the screen shot of their response. If you are referring to the message you attached here then his complain was not successful, the ECM agreed with the ECO regarding the refusal. If you are talking about another email then you need to contact them to ask about the delay in sending the passport though this sort of delay is common. |