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This is for those creating an ID just to come and lecture us about how to behave .

If you don't like how people answers question here go and pay an agent to help you.

I did not see any bullying here, i see people having disagreement which is normal.

Rather than wasting time creating an ID just to come and complain..use that time to engage in research about the UK student visa processes.

Nobody is paid here to answer question and get rewarded with insults.

DMainMan:
I noticed purplenerd has left nairaland because of cyber bullying in this place. I can't see hosey and many other influential nairalanders comments in this travel section anymore.

Enough of this bullying. Moderators need to ban some monikers who are guilty and given preferential treatment. Those people were contributing so much and they have now left.

Too bad.

People who joined this thread just last year and decided to insult anybody who disagrees with them? They believed that many of us here are misleading people and that people should listen to them alone and not many us?

Are many of you here on cheap weed or just joking? Who are the people that kept this thread running for 10yrs now?

Feel free to disagree with people here and share your experience but to insult people because they disagreed with you or accuse them falsely will not be accepted here

love2born:
Hello everyone.. please can anyone recommend a bank in UK with the highest interest rate..I dont mind a fixed term..thanks

Try First Direct regular saver, its 2.75% AER but you need First Direct current account and pay in £25-£250 monthly

Hacuttie:
Biometrics - 20/10/19

No decision mail

Mail for collection- 14/11/19

Passport collected on -15/11/19

Visa approved.

Sincere appreciations to @justwise and other forum members.

Congratulations!

Yuzee:
Thanks to @justwise and all who respond to questions here... you guys are the real MVPs.

No worries

dilodavid:
Is it not this same forum that has been hijacked by a group of caucus? To the extent that if you don't mention them, they won't respond to your concerns. What they do is selective responses, they choose what to and what not to respond to. Read the thread and see so many questions unattended to. When people that asked such questions apply for visa and are denied, someone like you who might have gotten visa by chance will come and shout that don't/didn't read the thread. That your visa was approved doesn't make you a better person than anyone else. Congrats on your visa all the same. So many wrong things to be addressed on this thread.

Those caucus have being answering questions here for years and still some lazy mind and those who feel entitled refused to take their time to read materials already here.

Many don't ask a single question but still use material here to apply and get positive results.

Do you think that many of us are jobless to waste time here repeating the same thing for years? Yes i will select post to respond to and ignore those asking lazy questions

DMainMan:
Bro. We are actually saying the same thing o.
As you can see, the course length is 18 months. The end date is July 2021. Such students will qualify for Post study visa.

Also, in the MSc degree I obtained from University of Manchester, the course end date was what was written in my certificate. Different courses, departments and schools therefore have different requirements.

I'm yet to see any certificate carrying course end date rather than the graduation date on it, so i rather not take that as a statement of fact but i take your word for it.

frapzkid:
Is obvious that you love arguement. Did I say anything about an 18 months course or 16 months course. I am referring to a 12 months that start January 2020 and ends January 2021.

Please reason well. And be mature in thinking .

This is exactly why i said you should not argue based on your limited knowledge about this, even courses that ends in Jan(still haven't seen one) You don't graduate that Jan, final project class/meetings starts. getting assigned supervisors etc takes place then actual project..at the end your graduation will be summer..this is why you are given 18months visa and not 16 as the case with Sept starters.

frapzkid:
Mr man I can see why Hosey got frustrated with you. If you course date end January, the UK can not give you a valid student resident permit that last six months after your course only four months maximum and even if your graduation would be in the summer you will need to apply for visiting Visa to attend like I did . Graduation is just a ceremony , once you have passed all your modules your course have officially ended and you are no longer a student . Cos using this your explanation some people that would finish their course by Janurary 2020 can also defer their graduation ceremony till next year to enjoy the psw .

Remember one of the requirements to be eligible is that one must have a VALID TIER 4 VISA when applying . If your tier 4 is invalid you can not get it .

A tier 4 Visa ends maximum of 4 months after your study .
January till April is 4 months.
Is not yet up to summer .

I am saying people may or may not get psw if they finish January 2021. Anything can change. But speak the fact . Right now the rule is only for those who finishes summer 2021.

I am against you just being sure of what have not been confirmed by the government

That says a lot about you.

During my student days my course started Jan and i was given 18months visa, my graduation was summer the following year and my certificate stated my graduation date and not course end date.

If your course ends Jan(yet to see course that ends in Jan) then your final project starts which will last for about 3months then your graduation.

If you start your course Jan/Feb you do have more than 4months after course ends because you have 2 summers while Sept starters have one.

https://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/aerospace-engineering

You don't have to argue on limited knowledge.

My attachment will help those who are still confused

DMainMan:
As frapzkid and hosey have said, if you definitely want PSW, start your course in September 2020.

If you must start Jan, choose a program with course end date at least June/July 2021 i.e from 18/19 months upwards. The end date is reflected in the CAS as course end date.

Wishing you the best.

Your course end date is not your graduation date. Your certificate will state your graduation date and not your course end date , that certificate and a letter from your school are what you need to apply for PSW.

You can finish your course but still not graduated.

reincarnation:
Wow. Guess I have to abort the mission.
Sorry please, what about a 16 months course with start date of January 15th. By calculation, it should end May 2021. Can one proceed or abort this too? Thanks

Check when your graduation date is, course finishing date is not what matters

Omar09:
@bolded is it just bachelor degree? Are masters and PhD beneficial too?

All degree and above qualifications

LagosismyHome:
I think so too that it's those who finish in May not Sept that will be the first batch...

The meteorological seasons official classification . The months of spring are March, April and May, while the summer months are June, July and August.

If the official statement is below , then those program ends in May when do they officially graduate?,.... I would guess those who finish in May actually graduate in July or Jun ? If yes then July is Summer. The home office statement is clear , it's not when you start that determine PSW or when your program end date but when you graduate

The new route will be launched in the summer of 2021, meaning that any eligible student who graduates in the summer of 2021 or after will be able to apply for the route. This includes students who have already started their courses. .

You are right...those that finished in May will graduate June or July and that is what appears in your certificate, your graduation date and not course finished date.

frapzkid:
Many people are wondering if the Brexit Election on December 12 would have effect on the post study Visa well to answer this. THE ELECTIONS WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON THIS .

THE post study Visa have come to stay. The cancellation of the previous post study Visa in 2012 was a result of a single initiative from the home secretary ( Theresa May)
During her time as the prime minister , petitions and proposals were brought by different MPs over the years to restore this Visa but she waved it off due to her strict immigration orientation.

It came as no surprise when the new prime minister Boris Johnson restored the post study Visa because lot of petitions been passed by the universities and student unions alongside various MPs in different parties. In fact so fact only 2 MPs have voiced in opposition of this new arrangement, a sign that majority are in support of this.

How would the elections affect the PsW Visa?

There are 3 main parties in the Brexit election

Conservative party
Labour party
Brexit Party or UKIP

The other parties which are SNP, Green Party and Liberal Party have been proven to have no chance in winning the elections with some of the candidates offering to step down for either a conservative, labour or UKIP candidate that share the same or closest view with them on Brexit.


So the 3 main challengers are these three parties
I doubt the UKIP would have a chance to win this election because many do not like their policies on issues like the budget and all . But they may have a go at this election because they have the best Brexit plan and some candidates in this other 4 parties may step down in support of the UKIP.
Even if the UKIP should win which is 70% unlikely , the leader, Nigel Farage voiced in support of the post study Visa by Boris Johnson government.


Now to the two main contenders
Labour and Conservative

If the conservative should eventually win , the PsW would go ahead as planned , though the UK government would try to maintain a point based immigration system similar to that of Australia .


If the labour should win , well this may end up being even better for the international graduates as the Labour immigration policy is so accommodating and likely to that of Canada.
The leader Jeremy Corbyn added when asked about the PsW Visa new scheme that the Visa should be extended more than 2 years.


In conclusion whatever happens in the Brexit elections on December 12 would make it anything but better or the same for the PsW Visa.



2 . I still stand with the fact that going for a masters program this January whether 1 year or 2 year program would be risky if you want to enjoy the PsW Visa.
The scheme said the new route would begin only for those who resume September 2020 .

So let us be Frank

September is just 10 months from now.

That is not true, you are misleading people.

This is what the scheme says and I quote: The new route will be launched in the summer of 2021. Any student who successfully completes their degree-level course at a qualifying institution in the summer of 2021 or thereafter will be eligible to apply. This includes students who are already studying.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/273801

reincarnation:
Please help, will I qualify for the post study work visa? Read posts of justwise, hosey et al, but I am very confused. Attached is a screenshot of my start and end date (which was hammered on that course end date is different from visa end date).
Please where do I stand for the PSW issue.

If your course is finishing Feb 2021 then you don't qualify, but if your course finishes June/July 2021 then you qualify.

Realgeo:
There are so many opportunities in Amazon at the moment. From team lead to shift managers , Internet technology, Engineering and so on. It depends on the level you entered. I recommended picking and packing cause she needs something to do that will be bringing income immediately rather than staying at home without nothing as she is still new in the country..again, when you have a blue badge in Amazon, [b]after one year, They will pay for 95% of your tuition fee [/b]for a selected course ranging from health care to it, businesses management and human resources.

Which is about £2,000 and you probably going to work part time if the course is full time course. A friend is doing that now.

deept:
Amazon, no lifting ke!. What role in Amazon are you referring to?!! If it is in their warehouse expect to be on your feet throughout the shift p[b]icking and sorting parcels,[/b] different sizes info different bags on shelves and into cages.

Amazon has far more than that, just try and get blue batch first then opportunities are there for all sorts of job types.

Aphrodite007:
Imagine me building a house for a man that cannot understand when his pregnant wife complains about his perfume. Or someone that’s complaining about shopping and sweeping, when he has a pregnant wife. I bless God I didn’t marry a Nigerian man, it’s clearly hit or miss!

God has also answered our prayer

Aphrodite007:
Well they are both professionals- They go dey alright. She loses her free house; he loses his free food/chores and still pays all the bills.

Na the pikin I pity.

He is used to paying for everything already so it makes no difference but this is not the case with her

Aphrodite007:
1) she is not stacking her bank account to buy Gucci, she’s doing so to spend on her family. So she’s leaning on her husband and also sacrificing the good things in life to take care of her family (which I think is commendable)

2) yes she cooked her food but not her husband. Does that sound like a normal behaviour? Has it occurred to you that she’s probably reacting to something he might have said to her last night? His story is one sided.

3) appreciative attitude. Lol, how do you know she isn’t appreciative in some other way? Did you ask her? Oh right, you’re basing your assumptions of her attitude on a story from someone else.

4) i think he doesn’t care about her because he mentioned all the things that I would expect a man to cope with then his woman is pregnant. For starters, for a man that believes in 50-50, chores are meant to be 50-50 too.

5) I do pity him asking her to help and she refusing. It shows that she doesn’t care for him. Now rather than assume she is mean, ask yourself, why would a woman not care for her husband anymore that she’s seeing him drowning and has refused to help him?

Yea well done!! So how about sending that money to both families? If this marriage ends she will be responsible for all the bills.

blank:
Can I ask you a question with you being offended? If you were to separate from your wife now and start living alone, by how much will your expenses reduce? You will still have to pay internet, rent, phone bill. Your utilities will reduce as it's just one person but you'll pay your transportation and grocery bills. You'll also have to prep your meals by yourself.

No he will save more money even, downside to studio, cheaper council tax, water bill, gas and electricity and food for one mouth and most importantly peace of mind.

Realgeo:
Help me ask @Aphrodite.... the way she is one sided in this issue makes me feel that na dem...she is all about man should do this, man should do that. What about love? Marriage is for two not for one person. No matter what the other partner is doing, there has to be a sacrifice and considerations. Its has to be from both, not from one person.

Bless you for that.

Aphrodite007:
First of, why would I know the reason that my brother is not sending me money? That is his family to which is is first responsible for, before me. So unless he tells me that it’s because of his wife (which is bad for a man to do), I wouldn’t know, I’ll just see my brother as not being buoyant enough to care for me.

Secondly, I’m not supporting what she’s doing (fully), but I’m not going to judge on that because he is accusing her of not supporting the home which I honestly doubt. She must be providing food stuff and other little things.

Finally, haven’t you heard the saying that daughters always take care of their fathers and mothers, while sons take care of their wives? It’s nothing new.

When I wasn’t working, the little money that my husband gave me, I would send half to my sibs (who didn’t need it o cos their parents are rich enough to take care of them). Did my husband complain? Right now, I earn so much more and I pamper his family die.

At the end of the day, it’s love. Their love has expired.

I bet you..you and your family will hate his wife, she will be accused of using juju to turn your brother against his own family while his wife helps her family.

You can not watch your husband struggling financially while you stalk-up your bank account with no sign of concern.

Yes she is pregnant but while in the kitchen preparing her own food for work why not consider the husband?

What is wrong with having some appreciative attitude? He is the best husband when he is paying for everything but the moment he asked her to help..suddenly he is a useless husband who doesn't care about his wife.

themaestro08:
Funny how some sacred cows are warned before been banned. The last time i flexed my muscles here I was properly dealt. Isn't it double standards? Its annoying.

..even more annoying when people like you make this sort false assumption. What difference does it make that you warn somebody and ban him or ban him before warning him?

Aphrodite007:
I understand. But you are hearing it from one side. There’s no how she’s not paying for food at home. I feel he is reducing what she’s paying for. Is your wife doing 50-50 with you? I’m sure it’s skewed somehow, even if she earned the same with you.

Also. You justwise. Do you just sit down and expect her to do everything, then expect her to work and still pay 50%.. haba? Is that not wickedness? And she’s pregnant on top!

If Sgtponzihater1 was your brother living the UK while you are in Nigeria schooling and he fails to send money for your fees because he spent all his money on his family here while the wife look after her family in Nigeria will you be happy?

RalphJean:
JustWise:
Back in Nigeria, this guy was so rich that his 1 month salary pays the house rent for 1 year.
He told his wife not to contribute anything because his salary was more than enough for both of them. Being a nurse, he regarded her salary as ‘crap’.

Upon migrating to the UK, he suddenly wants her to start paying the bills. My girl has been so used to the concept of:
Your money is OUR own; My money is MY own
Sharing formula calculation was not yet agreed upon in line with new realities. My guy come gi my sister belle. Everything come start to dey smell for my sister, plus plenty vomiting.

This is a mid-communication problem.

If my Guymandspecies feels that my sister isn’t playing ball, divorce should be the last resort when all else fails.
If Guyman Loves my sister, Guyman should talk to my sister’s mama.

I understand that but that was then, things have changed, he can't carrying on like that any more and now needs madam who has being enjoying rent-free come to the table..not fair? How do you expect one person to shoulder all the responsibilities and still madam works and earn well?

DPizzy:
@Lagosismyhome and all. I'd like to know/clarify for a person going for a 3 years PhD program, do such person need to have the tuition fee and maintenance (living expenses) in the bank account for 28 days for 1 year only and not for the entire 3 years or more than year 1(let say 2 of the 3 years) tuition fees and maintenance costs.
Thanks in advance!

Yes that is all you need

sgtponzihater1:
In Naija rent wasn't an issue for me. Nurses are paid crap, and I didn't need those help. Rent for a year could be paid with a months pay. It's totally different here.

However I am sorry for derailing this lovely thread with my problems. Forgive me sincerely while I look on God for help.

You already see me as a loser and a bad man so I have nothing to proof again.

Thanks for your help.

You don't have to apologise for anything, be strong as you go through this tough times, look after your own mental health before it starts affecting your work.

Hang on there and keep supporting because of her pregnancy, she needs all the support she can get now.

If nothing changes after delivery then...you know what next to do.

Aphrodite007:
Father Lord
I decree and declare, that no man with such a mentality should ever set eyes on my sister, friends or unborn daughters in the Name of Jesus!

I rebuke any man, that thinks with such a low mentality! Holy Ghost fire! Holy Ghost fire!

You that is mean to be making breakfast for her.. God forbid bad thing! Poor woman!

Aphrodite007.? It goes both ways! Nobody marries a teddy bear any more, if you don't help or appreciate your husband then get ready to be on your own.

I can't imagine marrying a wife who will not contribute financially here in the U.K even when we both work and earn almost the same?

There is a reason why men generally die before their wives ...

sgtponzihater1:
Said she want to help all her siblings first. Her brothers need to relocate too. Already helping her brother to do MSC here. I don't have up to 800 pounds save despite working for months and we are in London

I know this is marriage but don't let yourself to be used, marriage is not meant to be endured. Personally i will stop paying the rent and bills and both of us will face the consequences since its joint tenancy agreement.

Don't cook jack, eat-out and clean mouth she will buy food with her own money. You are being too soft that is the problem.

Nedu20:
I think all the money should be in one account. the thing is it should not go below the stipulated amount within that 28 days.

That is just it.