₦airaland Forum

pacificman:
yes..in his application as a student..did he tell them he was going to stay back?they probably asked him and his answer would be NO,i wont stay back after studies i would come back to my home country and work.do you think he would have gotten the UK student visa if he told them the truth from day one.i dont think so,stop forming saints online..

Why not take your time and learn about legitimate ways to travel and live in other countries so as to avoid embarrassing yourself like you just did?

Ugosample:
justwise was living elsewhere before he went schooling in the U.K.
So him returning to "Nigeria" is not even relevant here
back in the day you could apply for PSW or when dem Blair were in office HSMP, and your company, if you were lucky to get a job, could also file for you.

it is now that the Tories have closed the door to all those routes

So you bringing that up is not relevant at all...

Don't waste your time with that ID

Fallawx:
We no dey follow you drag . But why you no go back naija after ur academic session. Abi uk passport don turn 2 for #5 . For your information I get family for Uk and they are doing fine . This table you are shaking .

Pay me to educate you because you know nothing

pacificman:
justwise am not insulting you before you BAN me..LEAVE THIS THREAD ALONE..you do not own nairaland as we all contribute,you are guilty of what you accuse people of so drop the matter and leave this thread and go to UK thread where you can be the boss.case closed

Insulted others and i know you too well, you can't argue without insult.

pacificman:
yea that one the moderator called justwise traveled to the UK on the student visa and since then he did not return and now ask me how did he get PR.the other bald one is not even living in brazil now he lives in colombia

That is not against the law when done legitimately.

pacificman:
justwise is a well known hypocrite and he should tell us what he does for a living in the UK,because he did the same thing he is accusing nigerians of.why cant you justwise just stay in the UK thread that is where you live,its impossible for you to know everything about every country and the worse part justwise can not take pain before you know it he would ban you or hide your comments but he can insult people

Why do you want to know what i do in the UK? I don't need to live in Brazil to know what is wrong, stop abusing immigration system simple!

I got my passport legitimately and I'm proud that i did it without guilty conscience

NONNYG:
Nigerian passport?


hope not UK passport cos i read you went there to study not as a means to become citizen, if you acquire their passport, it's ILLEGAL

joke of the year

Fallawx:
Bro go check how strong Brazil passport is as well.

Yes but i have a stronger one

Adjo10:
So he is even not in Brazil. I’m sure he has never been there too. No wonder . Well... maybe he is sad that people are getting a good Brazilian passport faster than one can in the UK. It is very sad how people cannot be honest. If you don’t know about Brazil, why do you waste our breath debating with you. I’m no more wasting my energy on these guys

What a funny character !! Why would I be sad that people are getting Brazilian passport? I'm sad that some Nigerians can not distinguish between right and wrong, I'm sad that some Nigerians has become parasites around the world.

Why would I be sad that Nigerians are getting Brazilian passport why I,m holding a much better one? You lack exposure.

oluayebenz:
Your questions too much nah.
Lemme help justwise with these questions.....

Yes he lived in the UK.
He didnt have dual citizenship yet.
He travelled on student visa, after he applied for indefinite leave to remain ILR...... Now he's living happily in the UK

The info is outdated.

Fallawx:
@oluayebenz he knows where I won hook ham na the reason wey he dey talk say it’s irrelevant . But no bad blood my people .

Make God help us all .

.

You have nothing on me and you barely know what you are talking about

dyydxx:
@justwise

stop abusing the word fraudulent. I have followed the back and forth and I think @Adjo10 summed it up nicely. Since it is legal for tourists to convert to other immigrant categories when they give birth on Brazilian soil, even if it is a loophole..it is not fraudulent to take advantage of it. I think that's taking it to an unreasonable level. it's a bit rich to say only those that can afford private healthcare should take the plunge.

I'm sure the Brazilian government aren't stupid, if and when it becomes a problem for them they will change there laws.

Another person who can’t read or refused to understand what the issue is.

I pointed out at least 3times here that I’m not against citizenship by birth but against people doing it fraudulently hence the issue of paying for private health care.

Fallawx:
No they aren’t. We are heading to a particular junction my friend @justwise . You are yet to answer my question if you have dual citizenship ?

Of course I know where your question is heading to which is why I told that it’s irrelevant.

Your next question will be how I become a dual citizen and if I explained you still ask another irrelevant question.

I have been here before many times in this section and after explanation I will still get another irrelevant question thrown at me.

Princessjo:
pls i need some advice, I will be attending a conference in Atlanta, planning to stay for 1 week and come back. My aunt lives in the USA. while filling my information on form DS 160, do I declare that my aunt lives in the united states or just declare that I don't know anyone and that I'm just attending a conference. My mom will will be paying for my trip. I'm 21 years and the conference is related to my discipline.

Question 2

Will I need my moms statements of account to go for the interview. thanks

Please post this in US visiting visa thread

Fallawx:
Fine , you live abroad by birth or relocation ? Did you pave the way for your family or the family pave the way for you .

These questions are irrelevant.

Fallawx:
What shameful behavior ? Say people comot go give birth for other another then the country offers free health care . Some people aren’t aware of the free health care they just want their offsprings to have another nationality base on our bad economy and system .

Please answer this question righteously . Do you live abroad or naija ? Have you ever live abroad for more than 3years ? Do you have dual citizenship ? Can you tell us that everyone you know family or friends travel the right way without a stain in their documentation and paperwork while abroad ? Bad is bad but don’t generalized it, if you have not sanitized ur own compound .

Yes I live abroad, yes I have lived here longer than 3yrs and no single member of family ever ever got involved in immigration fraud.

I’m not responsible for what my friends do neither do I have any friend who is into immigration fraud and actively support such and there is no compound to sanitise

Fallawx:
@justwise speak for yourself and don’t generalized your statement .

Firstly you generalized your statement that Nigerians .
Na Ghanaian you be ?

Those you accused of been morally bankrupt ( lack sense of humor to support principles of right and wrong behaviour) contributes more to the traffic of this sites without earning a penny .

You just abuse your loyal followers which requires apology . You dey vex just now when person dey para for you .

I did not generalise, I said many/some Nigerians.

I don’t care if you are a loyal members here or not, I will keep saying this whether you like it or not.

Nairaland will move on even better without you and me.

If you are expecting me to apologise then I suggest move on quickly because You are not getting one .

Fallawx:
@justwise never throw a stone when you know very fine you live in a glass house . Are you a saint ? Are you 100% open on this platform and within your entire household ? Make nobody dey form holy holy here abeg .

I’m not surprised one bit that you came up with that because since April 2009 when I joined this forum and started fighting individuals like yourself who either support or give excuses for all sorts of shameful behaviour by some Nigerians.

I’m not a saint but When I see what is wrong will call it out and not keep kicking the can down the road

Ugosample:
exactly so


we do these things; Yea

But the truth is that it's WRONG

Wrong is an understatement, many here are morally bankrupt and will never see anything wrong in abusing any system as long as they are selfishly benefiting.

Fallawx:
When saying the truth then you mute us by blocking our accounts . We are here saying the truth . We aren’t here for monetary benefits.

What is the truth? Are you able to post without insulting anyone here?

Adjo10:
Under the Brazilian immigration law of 2017, a tourist visa cannot be changed to another visa in Brazil. It can only be changed into another form of visa in Brazil in only 2 circumstances thus:

1. When you give birth to a Brazilian child
2. When you marry a Brazilian

What do you say about that? Are we better informed than the Brazilian law makers about their own country? You see my friends... context is everything. It is not illegal to give birth in Brazil. Period!

This goes to show that you have not been reading or you deliberately refused to understand what the issue is

Adjo10:
The Brazilian economy depends heavily on tourism and services patronized by tourists. The system is designed in such a way that even tourists pay super high tax thus: 10% tax on all money exchanges you make in the country, tax on renting apartments, taxi rides etc etc. I most likely paid more tax in Brazil as a tourist than most Brazilians do. That is why public hospitals are by the constitution free for both citizens and tourists alike.

I do not and no one here encourages anyone to give birth in a public hospital. In fact that has never been a point in this thread except few people here who are trying to make it a big deal here lol.

But to put it in context. Brazil has a population of 204 million. How many Nigerians get visas to give birth in Brazil? That number will not even be close to 0.000001% of the Brazilian population. How can such numbers put pressure on the health care system? Obviously, you need some education lol.

Although i do no encourage anyone to give birth in a public hospital, i will certainly not condemn anyone for doing so. I have come across cities in Brazil where the public health care is better equipped to take care of emergency pregnancy situations than private hospitals. And trust me, when it comes to life and death and pregnancy, a mother or father will not even think twice about saving their little one. So shut up if you don’t understand something and stop making a big deal out of nothing.

Peace

Watch your language here

Fallawx:
@justwise you are still wrong using the word “fraudulent”.

Blame no one , we are all raised differently and you only go with your wallet shape (if you can afford private fine and if you can afford public good )

If you still insist on such that means everyone is guilty of this we all lied during our visa processing.

We are all guilty of getting married to citizens for paperwork purpose and other benefits .

Point of correction Nigerians are never the cause of Us birth system stoppage . Jamaican, Indians, Chinese, South Americans are all guilty of this as well

Meaning that Nigerians are guilty too?

Fallawx:
@justwise you are still wrong using the word “fraudulent”.

Blame no one , we are all raised differently and you only go with your wallet shape (if you can afford private fine and if you can afford public good )

If you still insist on such that means everyone is guilty of this we all lied during our visa processing.

We are all guilty of getting married to citizens for paperwork purpose and other benefits .

Point of correction Nigerians are never the cause of Us birth system stoppage . Jamaican, Indians, Chinese, South Americans are all guilty of this as well

Yes that is fraudulent too the same was lying to obtain free health care you are not entitled to is.

Adjo10:
Obviously you don’t understand what the word “fraudulent” means and you are fraudulently abusing a word you have no idea about. Educate yourself my fraudulent friend lol

I understand your position as it’s very common with many Nigerian when it comes to issues like this.

Lying to obtain something you are not entitled to have it’s not seen as a fraudulent act because many are used to doing that.
Telling the embassy that you are going on holidays while heavily pregnant even when you know your true intentions, you addressed up to cover the pregnancy so as not to be spotted by the immigration, all these are done in other to deceive the authorities. It’s fraudulent and you know it.

joyivro:
Good evening Justwise and all the gurus please can’t seem to get the page please what am I supposed to take for my biometrics please urgent will be going in the morning.
And am I supposed to add sponsors original passport thanks and waiting.

Sorry that I did not reply this on time, Travelling around EU since early this week so my internet connection has been off and on, if you still need an answer let me know

Kenechill:
So if one's wife is pregnant and it's showing, what do you advice they book for please? Thanks

Pay for private health care and apply for medical visa. Basically be honest with the situation and if you are refused visa then work on the reason(s) for the refusal

Fallawx:
You all get it wrong . No one is abusing any system friends . Please let get things right they are all going for the future of the unborn baby . Check out the process of getting the visa and flight expenses no b beans.
Perhaps the baby would have dual citizenship and pave way for the parent .
Our green passport don cast.
If you never live or born outside Nigeria no come they Type rubbish here .

My daughter was born in Kenya but now lives and school in Brazil . The free health care applies to both citizens and foreigners. People migrate to South America areas due to fast paperwork’s .
Naija population small for here , Haitian, Congolese,Liberians, Angolans are more .

Obviously you are denying the fact and rather focus on what is good for you and your family.

Yes it’s an abuse of system when you lied your way into Brazil only to use their free health care and get citizenship and leave without paying a penny.

Why not pay for a private health care and still get the citizenship?

This is morally unacceptable and Nigerians should have a hard look at ourselves and ask why many countries detest us.

I’m aware that many reading this will hate me even more but I couldn’t careless and will keep speaking out.

We did the same with US birthing system and now the doors are nearly closed, we turned our attention to Canada and Brazil with the same dishonest way.

Let me say this for few fair minded ones here.

I’m not against citizenship by birth, I’m against people doing it fraudulently.

Jimgym:
Hello all, I am a struggling young man, living in lagos. I have a job that pay 130,000 every month, plus some extra side hustle that brings in some 10,000 sometimes. I am considering traveling abroad, with the hope of getting married to a citizen and getting work permit to work and earn higher wages. I am however in a valley of decision, I'm thinking whethr I should stay put in Nigeria or take the risk of the unknown. Please advice.

If you are not travelling for studies or with work visa please stay in Nigeria with that job

bluebay:
Honestly, you have problem

Yes my problem is people like you who always say things they have no clue about

A thread like this exists here

bluebay:
My brother, if you are running a business that gives you 130k monthly and you know you don’t have any link for accommodation, employment Nd so, please stay put. But if you employed and it gives you 130k, I don’t know if you have anyone over there or not, Bros, Move as soon as possible... It’s better to be hungry over there than here jor

Honestly you don’t know what you are talking about