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folmus:
@ Justwise, do you have stats to back this?

Is this a serious question? You are seriously asking me for a stat about Nigerian fraudulent record?

aye88:
I dont agree with this. A lot of people here secured medical visa using correspondence from hospitals like oakbend or even sone cheaper or slightly higher options all below 10k snd their visa were approved. Now they find it hard renewing those visas. Because we are nigerians doesnt mean everything has to be our fault

Some struggle to renew their visas for so many reasons..low hospital bill, withholding material fact during the interview etc are on that list.

NIFES:
I totally disagree with you on this please!
Budget is different from actual and don't you forget that the budget sheets usual include all expenses ranging from flight (for you and LO), accommodation, feeding, processing of document et al.
That aside, when did "cheap" become "fraud" all because of visa renewal if I may ask?
And what law of economics says that your budgeted and actual expenses must always agree?

Let's be objective in our analysis and call a spade a spade!

If you travel to any country on vacation or business and get discounts on goods, does that automatically make you a criminal or violator of immigration rules.

For years now, Nigerians have been travelling to India for diverse medical treatments in relatively cheap facilities (hospitals) and no hell has broken loose yet..
So what makes the case of getting cheap medical treatment in the US a crime for Nigerians if not that these are deliberate acts to discourage birth tourism?

I also hope you are aware that most of the documents/drafts of these OB packages clearly state; as a clause that if insurance is discovered on the patient's name, the contract is voided.

So what's the crime?

The attitude that some of us portray on forums like these are examples of the type of poor governance we all are complaining of in "OUR" leaders. Most of us simple cannot stand for the truth.
...Once a seemingly superior person or group of persons (especially white skinned) take a negative stand on something, what most of us do is "follow follow" .


It is well.

I don't expect many to agree with me on this because its a touchy topic.

I'm not talking about your budget for transport, accommodation etc..i'm talking about actual delivery cost, the VO will not approve your visa if you told her that you will be paying little to nothing with discount, your visa was approved because you presented a budget fitting enough for child birth.


Your last paragraph is quite frankly insulting and playing race card on this is shameful.

Lets call a spade a spade most Nigerians are dishonest, fraudulent and crafty, we get so angry when called out.

This is not about white superiority, this is about what many Nigerians are known for, we struggle to get a visa to many embassies including South African which is an African country

I don't believe that the American embassy is targeting Nigerians regarding this birthing issue, we all know what the problem is here though some are playing a blinder.

How many people here have gone for an interview, declare child birth, present burden of proof, VO was convinced and issued a visa then you traveled , gave birth and paid exactly or above that amount you presented to VO during your interview and was unable to renew that visa?

I have lost count of how many times people come here to ask for cheap hospital or birthing centre after getting a visa, if you convinced the VO that you planned to spend $10-15K and got the visa but you decided to go for cheap and cheerful option then don't expect to get that visa renewed.

Blackfinegirl:
I have been a silent follower.

let me drop my transcript here.

I applied via drop box to renew my usa visa and I stated I was going for medicals. 221g letter was sent to me and I rescheduled for interview. Unfortunately a week to my interview I had pre term labour at 6 months and they could not keep the baby since he was not up to 7 months. I reschedule my interview due to health reasons after delivery.


Today I went for my interview at Abuja consular.


VO: When last did you go the usa.
me: 2013

vo: how long did you stay?
me: 2 to 3 weeks

vo: for what ?
me: Christmas holiday

vo: who do you know?
me: my brother

vo: how did he get to usa:
me: visa lottery

vo: I can see you wanted to stay for three months, why?
me: so I explained how i lost my baby at 6 months just before the interview, so i rescheduled.

vo; what does you husband do, how much does he earn?
me: I answered her.

vo: what do you do?
me: answered

vo: I can see you earn ......
me; yes i do and my salary has been upgraded this month to......


vo: will you have a baby within the next two years?
me: yes of course.

vo: will use like to give birth in the us
me: yes, if doctors gives me the go ahead to travel, due to my history.

VO: What countries have you visited
me: Uk,France, Spain, Luxembourg, Netherlands ,Belgium, Uae, Gambia, Benin rep..etc

vo: okay, i will be giving you this visa,please pay all your bills and do not accept any discount. get your itemized bills and all the necessary receipts.
me: yes i will

me: I asked her if i needed to inform them when next I get pregnant, she said no, but i should declare it at the point of entry, and have enough funds to cover my treatment.

Thank you lord for this victory, and for doing something for me to wipe away my tears.

Congratulations!! You were honest and gave straightforward answer and you got the visa.

petetherock:
please i need help, i have posted this before but didn't get the response needed. I was denied UK visitor visa in 2013 under 320 7a because of a family photograph(parents and siblings) with a different background and it was seen as altered and deception was implored which was not the case because i had no idea that such a photograph will raise any dust. I was single then. Moving forward 6 years later am married to a Doctor and i have a son who is a U.S citizen. my wife is about to apply for Tier 2 to work as a Doctor in the UK and my son and i are her dependents. I was told that my previous visa denial under 320 7a will or might jeopardize the application Because denials under 320 7a is automatic ground for ban under 320 7b since it involves deception. I don't know how true this is , i was not given a ban, i was single then. As a family man whose circumstances has greatly improved with a wife and son and she is the principal applicant, i would like an expert opinion about this so we don't make any mistakes. we are almost there. Somebody please help !!!!

That is true and your ban will kick in when you apply for visa again.

You can still apply and be completely honest and apologetic about it, hopefully you be forgiven.

kolalekan:
Hello here, I got a paid internship with a company in London. The package the company is giving for accommodation is £2k for the 10 weeks, June 24 - End of August. The package comes with breakfast as well.

I was wondering if there's anyone who would be willing to take me in for the 10 weeks. I'm willing to pay if required, company is on Fleetwood.

Hope I'm not breaking any rules @justwise

Olalekank:
Thank you for the response
Checking gumtree now


Please I sent you a pm

Same person

justwise:
1.Did she declare child birth during the interview?

During our first visa interview, we made it know we were going for our anniversary. She just took in then. The VO asked specifically if we are going now to give birth. We said NO. So we travelled and came back three weeks later. She then travelled when she was about due.

2. How much did she pay for the delivery?

We paid all the amount we were told to pay, about $11K. We have zero balance statement/amount paid in full from the hospital, lab to obgyn etc

3. Was the second visit for child birth or holiday?

The second visit was for child birth after the first one wch she went alone and declared at POE coz they she went thru secondary interrogation. They wanting to know the doctor's name and whether we have paid the hospital bills.

That will be an issue because you were asked and you said no then 3wks later you still use the same visa for child birth.

Prepare well because that issue is likely to come up

Jbaby09:
Thanks a lot.. also does it matter if I apply days after my salary is paid? Would that be seen as lodgment?

As a business owner, Is it compulsory I add incorporation company documents to my application.

Lastly, the cover letter that states I’m the owner of the business and also spells out my salary, who signs it ? Cos I don’t have an HR person yet. It’s still a 1 man limited liability company.

You can't convince the ECO that you pays yourself a salary as a sole business owner. Visa wise that makes no sense, in one man business winner takes it all.. what you make is profit and not salary.

carnal:
goodmorning house,i have a situation with a colleague at work, they were granted visa (b1/b2) in late January, now wifey realised she is 6 weeks pregnant in mid-february after visa was out, she intend to put to bed in the u.s.
My advise to them;
1.write embassy and inform them that wifey is pregnant and they intend to put to bed since there is enough fund available.

Please gurus in the house, i will appreciate further advise to assist my friend.

Book for another interview and declare your intention to give birth in US else you will have some issues renewing that visa

DrStrangelove:
Good morning House,

We just received 221G follow up interview for me and my wife. We wanted to renew our visas wch is expiring May 2nd. We applied for b1/B2 for the renewal and this will be our second renewal together. We gave birth in the US to our son in 2015 and she spent 5 months because of this. This was during her second trip to the US after our first we're we went for our vacation.

The vacation was for 3 weeks. Her stay during her second trip was for 5 months after which she came back. She declared at POE that she came to give birth during that time. I also travelled to go see them for about 5 weeks.

Afyer everything they came back home. Though I came back before them. We made sure we got zero balance statements for all the bills (hospital, obgyn,lab tests, anaesthesiologist, pediatrics etc). We then reapplied using Dropbox and we were both granted visas. This was early 2017. So we decided to travel when we would be chanced wch was going to be early December to late December. She later decided to go to London with my daughter to see her family there while me headed to the US to visit a friend. We both spent about a month on both places and came back.

We didn't travel throughout 2018 due various reasons. We now decided to travel in July 2019 to NYC to visit a friend. We chose Newyork as we have never been there before and wanted a change from the southern states. And also this would be first time our son is returning. This is the time we can get to get off work so we decided to reapply early so that we can start planning for the visit. Nothing has changed in our previous application. I run a consulting firm with my wife as a Legal/compliance manager. She is a lawyer with 7 yrs post call.

Now the issue is my wife is 2months pregnant. We don't really know what to expect as this has put us in a precarious situation.

I think what ticked them off was 1. My wife's 5 months stay 2. She not using the previous visa in the validity period 3. Or the destination of our visit to NYC ( we are visiting a family friend and this was stated in the application with details)

Pls advise.

Also we can't seem to get a date for the follow up interview as the embassy hasn't released dates for them yet. My appointment page for dates always comes up blank. Am hoping we get a close date as anything further might complicate our case. Pls advise

1.Did she declare child birth during the interview?

2. How much did she pay for the delivery?

3. Was the second visit for child birth or holiday?

JamesBrennet:
@justwise

Please assist with your opinion on this. I submitted my UK visa application. My printed bank account statement had 7 months salary (but was for 6months), because 1month was paid late in the month, and it appeared when i printed my 6months statement, however I forgot to submit the payslip (as I only submitted payslips for 6Months). Do you think the source of this would be questioned, because this was the second transaction on the printed statement? Being that I receive monthly salary from my firm and my firm's name always appear as the sender.. thanks.

I doubt that, you submitted 6months bank statement and payslip that should be ok

sashaa:
From their 'contact us' details it says there's a charge for both calls and email enquiries. I'm a bit confused. Is that the norm?

Unfortunately yes

Jbaby09:
Guys pls help. I don’t have a habit of leaving money in my account. 6months statement shows and defends my salary but I’ll rather save the excess. So I’ve a balance of about 60k but savings enough to cover the trip. Does my balance matter ?
@justwise pls

Yes balance matters but it doesn't have to be in your salary account

mekaboy:
PLEASE oo. I have the following questions.

1) is it ok to apply with a business venture and not Limited Liability.

2) do I just put business tax receipt or do I need to put both business tax and personal income tax? I don't want to spend money pay for that since business tax and personal income tax from 2017.

1. It doesn't matter use the one you are running

2. Business tax

rennyvik:
Hello house, plz does a UK visit visa(wedding invite) denial affect study visa. The Scholl has agreed to issue the CAS and there is more than sufficient money for the school fees, accommodation etc.

Plz reply thanks

The denial will not affect your application as long as it wasn't as a result of fraudulent activity and you have to declare it.

Killingmesoftly:
Thanks for your advice. But I need your advice on this please.

This is the question I asked and I need y advice please. Thanks.

Hello Justwise sorry to disturb. Please the applicant is travelling for 12 days vacation and the budget he estimated for ECO is 650,000 flight ticket for 280k, accommodation ( hostel) for 76,000 and the remaining balance for living expenses and shopping. Is the 650k ok or he should make it 700k. Please I will appreciate y response. Thanks

Spending more than 2months of his salary will not help his application, let him look for a cheaper ticket so as to reduce the overall cost

chubany:
I used priority service, got the visa application despatched mail from Croydon on Wednesday. Till date nothing from TLS, even the tracking number from DHL shows that DHL hasn’t received any package to convey down to me

Visit the visa center

dgoodrich101:
@justwise thank you very much sir, sorry to bother you, but just one more clarification sir, I use just one (1) account for both my saving and salary account.

So in this case do I need to remove any amount aside or I write the total clearer balance in my statement of account as at when filling form.

Yes and make use of the blank space to explain that you use your current account for both savings and salary

ozymes:
@Justwise, Please, do you need to submit flight reservation/booking as part of UK Visa application documentations?

Yes if you made one else you don't have to but you have to outline the budget for it

GiftyDiamond:
Good morning all,

Please @Justwise, when travelling as a group for a program, is it a must the group should have their interview fixed on same day and same location.

I don’t think it’s a must but if you can book a group one. If that is not possible then each member of the group should inform the VO during the interview that it’s a group trip .

MrsDaniels:
@Justwise please my sister inlaw needs an email she can send a very vital document to to UKVI she mistakenly ommited during sumission..pls revert. Thanks mate!

UKVAIG.ServiceIntegration@fco.gov.uk Phone: 27-21-3001926

sashaa:
@justwise, kindly help. I'm unable to see the page for appointment date selection anymore. Has this been removed? Do i go ahead and make payment before knowing what dates are available?

Contact them before making payment, tell them that you are unable to book an appointment.

saintobi009:
Please @justwise please I have the option of my aunt in the UK who uses an Italian passport and she's ready to give me all the necessary documents to apply , please what and what does she need to give me and what do I need to personally submit

Documents from your aunt alone will not get you a visa, you still need to show your tie to Nigeria

dgoodrich101:
@justwise

Thank you very much sir I really appreciate the enlightenment.

Sir so just to clarify something sir if I have an account balance of 2,1m in my bank account (salary and saving) under the section written do you have any saving or investment, Sir if I click on savings will I write the whole money in my account converted to pounds and write in the colum or I will have to deduct my 2 month salary and write the remaining amount in pounds.

Thank you and God bless Sir

Write down the whole amount and submit both bank accounts, you also have the blank space in the form for additional info about those two accounts if you wish to add more info.

Jbaby09:
Thanks a lot .. also please I booked my hotel but didn’t pay: used the option of paying at the hotel. Though the booking is confirmed but it also shows in the booking that I chose to pay at the hotel. Does that matter too. Also do you think I need to submit the expired passport with previous issued Uk visa?

Nothing wrong with that, you don't need to submit an expired passport but somewhere in the form you will be asked if you have used any other passport and the number.

ijeshaoflondon:
@Justwise... kindly explain the bolded part.... Are u saying the question on the application form asking if you have savings or investment should be YES becos the money in the account is my savings? Then if i have 1.4 in my account... how much will i have to state as my savings? Thanks

Whatever amount you have left after expenditure is your savings as a salary earner. if the 1.4M is the money you have put aside for sometime then that is your savings.

ozymes:
How about RSA( Retirement Savings Account), can the balance be classified as savings in filling up the form?

Yes its savings.

Jbaby09:
@justwise please as per bank statement, can I use the one printer off internet banking ?

Get it stamped by your bank though online bank statement is acceptable in the UK but i'm not sure about Nigeria.

ozymes:
Fixed Deposit and Nigerian/FGN-CBN Treasury Bills

They are investments, savings when liquidated