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alarinjo:
BTW are you British or Nigerian

Chai i be African black kparaku, and a proud naija in fact and factual, with a thick yoruba blood flowing through my veins. Abi o brother I ask you the same question because, na yoruba and british who are so freaky freaky about manners and proper use of wordings and name spellings etc

alarinjo:
On the larger scale though, what do u think about such massive scale deals as selling the Chinese oil in exchange for massive infrastructural programs like the building of railroads and power stations etc? Zimbabwe is getting a couple new power plants in exchange for the chrome which they are selling to the Chinese? Do you think we could pull it off with smart leaders?

When you say something like that, I come to think of A Chinese Business man offering to build rail-networks for free and keeping all the natural resources he comes upon during construction. We need to be very careful in analysing Chinese deals.

Bossman:
Another thing to consider is the ubiquity of the browser. This has really aided the development of thin client applications. All that's needed to access the application is a browser. No need to worry about installing the app on each users PC. Obviously, a web based application will not be a solution for all applications, but for most applications these days, it's the most ideal and cost efficient way to go.

Thin client, yes a very good point raised there. But you forgot that there is a browser on each system accessing that Thin APP .

Most Ideal in what sense, didn't get it?

Well Cost efficient, yes in a way, beacuse they are small scale in nature, and maybe their Server Side interpreters could be Opensource, besides cheap

Mind you, I am totally in support of Web based software, but my reason is just preference, due to the fact that I love Opensource.

alarinjo:
My screen name is Alarinjo not alanrinjo thank you.

HEHEHE are you British or Yoruba?

Anywayz back to the topic, When a chinese man offers you something at no cost, you would need to review that thing 1000 times. A chinese man is not really a fan of a win-win situation especially in business

Every single human being has a spice of Tribalism or Racism in his actions or perceptions towards people of other races or tribes.

We just express it differently. Its a human nature , if you disagree, then you are not being truthful. If you are hiding it, then you are being hypocritical, If you express it with wisdom, Then there is hope for a solution to supressing it.

You can only solve an issue, when you know it is an issue, that needs treatment, but living in denial would just make it worse. Are we living in Denial, that we arent tribalist or racist?

@Drusilla

Weew haba, take am easy now. Wetin be money blood now or nah blood money? I no fit understand you o. I just they yearn simply about colonisation vs economical status, and my stand on it. HEHEHE LIFE IS EASY O.

The average lifestyle of an average Japanese is better than that of an average Nigerian. They sucides are honourable and are accepted by the society, They are more of a shinto believers, they think it is something that is good, just like for naija, to chop govt money, na good thing. Kapish. This is even total deviation from my debate

There are people in Nigeria as mamaput asked, that cant afford to send their kids to school.

hmm you need an english qualification certificate like ielts or toefl, Waec english is not accepted, except the University has their own english placement examination or the University is one of those shack Universities around. And there are many I tell you

seeker:
kazey, Brunei! You go kill me with laughter. What does British rule have to do with the oil wealth in this country of a handful of people. Abi them plant the oil for them. You seem not to realise that all the wealth ends up in the emirs' and his cronies pockets. All those GDP figures are to say the least very misleading.

Good point, and Nigeria doesnt have such resources? Or are we applying a different conclusion in regards?

In regards to the hongkong's citizen's, I think its better if we get one right here, : because nothing I would say would convince you.

Drusilla:
Exchange rates: Hong Kong dollars per US dollar - 7.759 (April 2006)

I think you should try to read on determinants of currency, trade differentials etc besides pegging, Come to think of it, Maybe I might want to invite Japan to tell us their currency power, so that I can judge their economical status.

When we talk of standalone solution, we shouldn't forget that, that also speaks of many enterprises that use network based standalone software. So the number of PCs etc doesn't really matter. Considering that most of the systems are dummy terminals and its the main server doing all the transaction.

A good example is the bank. Now the question is does a bank for example really require a web based application to run its internal transaction? It all depends actually. As I said before, its about preference not really fullfilling a particular need.

In regards to the scale of implementation especially on enterprise level, where the architecture tends to be more complex with lots of functionalities and models, besides departments, server based softwares are normally encouraged due to the nature of the multi-threading etc and its not that web based solutions wont work. Its just more convenient to have them on desktop. The culture of running a web based software on enterprise level hasn't really being adapted well yet. Preference is the factor, not really functionalities.

seeker:
@Kazey, you seem to have found 1 example where 'long' colonisation appears to have been beneficial. Just out of curiosity, can you find 3 more examples. No, in fact, just 2 more examples. Is it colonisation that got Japan, Korea where they are, and more recently China and India's giant strides. Just curious.

1. Antigua and Barbuda
Independence
From the UK
November 1, 1981
GDP: $11,523

2. Brunei
Independence
- From British protectorate January 1, 1984
GDP $24,143

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well depends on your implementation platform besides infrastructure.

there is actually xammp lite and even LAMP.

Well if that would solve the current mess, WHY NOT? but I doubt it would.

hehehe colonisation might not be a good thing if we look at what it entails, but in regards to African's current situation such as Nigerian's case, we would tend to be well better of being colonised, since we can't manage ourself properly. But in regards to what it entails, such as freedom to choose who to lead, then it might be question yet again.

Look at the reason on why US invaded Iraq for example? Currently some people think it is a good thing, some fail to agree. It all depends on how it helped the citizens of the country. The effects of it does matter

Drusilla:
Colonization could help Africa. A good long Colonization.

Maybe,

But that does not affect the welfare of the people? Poverty is at its minimal, people are ok, this is just plain politics. Nigeria on the other hand has economical and political problems, so what do we say to that?

If you don't do it, someone else would do it Nigeria is still an untapped market. Have any of you guys read on the Ghanian People Soft? that conqured all the M$ and other competitors market due to their tailored and local streamlined apps, and Microsoft had to partner with them?

I heared they even have a Nigerian office.

Well it is a very promising market, especially in the religious and industry sector, just be very good at delivering those softwares, build first and work on selling it, or even renting it out on a lease system.

Normally those critical accounting applications are ran on an Intranet or an intranet network, hence the issue of downtime and slow response time is minimized due to the controls used to monitor them.

I prefer web based applications to desktop based applications, especially if they are on an intranet network.

Bananas from Nigeria going to Australia, Boli and banana ice-cream would get expensive o.

Telling the painful truth without thinking twice (need to work on some part though, such as being sensitive), Designing Websites, Building business concepts and models, Convincing and winning business leads and making money.

smartsoft:
kazey, that is if he has Control Panel X or something

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By the way are we debating, or am I getting the whole post and I reply you wrong?

I never said that we shouldn't learn from other people, thats why we go to school. What I do not agree with, is her statement on which she said; Many millionaires became successful from just reading testimonials or making other peoples success becomes their own success; Millionaires that is. I am still waiting for the list of those millionaires.

Isn't that what she said?

Afeni:
In fact, all Large African States are complete failures with the exception being South-Africa. And since the South-Africans were not in control until a few years ago, that is easy to understand.

Hahaha, thats the fact . From my own perspective and understanding of African politics, The African black man is not a competent leader in a country that needs cross-ratial understanding plus tremendous economical growth especially from graze. That is still yet to be proven wrong.

Drusilla:
The really big difference between Nigeria and countries that knew Colonialization longer, is that they are not as naive as Nigeria.

Thats not really true. Nevertheless I was talking in regards to the economical situation of such a country. A good example is Hongkong. It was a British colony from 1843, until its sovereignty was transferred to the PRC in 1997.

Hong Kong has one of the least restricted economies in the world and is basically duty-free. It is the world's 11th largest trading entity and 13th largest banking centre.The dominant presence of international trade is reflected in the number of consulates in the territory.

At USD $32,900 in 2005 (CIA World Factbook), the nominal per capita GDP of Hong Kong is somewhat higher than that of the four big economies of western Europe which is around USD $30,000.

No I am not, because she claims that there are millionaires who are what they are, through other people's success, not by learning

lcharm:
many many millions of millionaires are successful not because they learnt, researched and read on their own but because they read other peoples successes and then made it work for them

I do know Warren Buffett, and even if I didnt, I could have made a quick read on wikipedia or any online resource. Nevertheless here we go on Warren Buffet's success.

We were talking about being successful from reading from other people's success or making other people's success work for us?

Benjamin Graham (May 8, 1894 – September 21, 1976) was an influential economist and professional investor who is today often called the "Father of Value Investing" and the "Dean of Wall Street."

He is perhaps best known today from frequent references made to him by billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who studied under Graham at Columbia University, and was his only pupil to receive an A+. Other well known students of Graham include William Ruane, Irving Kahn, Walter Schloss, and Charles Brandes

In 1954, Graham invited Buffett to Graham-Newman. There, he worked closely with Graham and Walter Schloss. Graham, a tough man to work for, was adamant that a stock provide a wide margin of safety after weighting the tradeoff between its price and intrinsic value. Graham's demand that a stock be worth more than its price made sense to Buffett, but it also made him question whether the criteria were too stringent, causing them to miss out on some big winners that had more qualitative values.

Buffett philosophy on business investing is a modification of the value investing approach of his mentor Benjamin Graham. Graham bought companies because they were cheap compared to their intrinsic value. He was of the belief that as long as the market undervalued them relative to their intrinsic value he was making a solid investment. The market will realize that it has undervalued the company and will correct its course regardless what type of business the company was in. In addition he believes that the business has to have solid economics behind it.

Are we debating now? I was just trying to explain my post? Ah there in your excerpt, I did make a mistake, I was supposed to use "What they fail" not "What you fail", anyway it doesnt matter, I have said my own.

And since you appreciate it, I have no problem whatsoever with you or anybody.

lcharm:
many many millions of millionaires are successful not because they learnt, researched and read on their own but because they read other peoples successes and then made it work for them

And maybe you might want to name a few? Because I dont know of any?

@Darkchild

Ok let me teach you how to read something in general, could be helpful in the future, before you start concluding to an OPINION.

kazey:
One interesting thing I found about Nigerians, is that they are only interested in an idea, concept or even model, when someone has gone through all the hurdles and pitfalls to become successfull in it.

Forums is a very good example. You see Nigerians, all over the internet trying to start forums because Seun is acclaimed to make a fortune from his forum. What you forget to try to understand is

1. How much time, Seun has invested into Nairaland.
2. How much money, Seun has invested into Nairaland.
3. How much reading and research, Seun has been doing, to reach this level of achievement.
4. What ups and downs, Seun has undergone, to reach this level.

Above I am doing what exactly? Talking about what I found out, and below I am doing what exactly? Getting back to you and helping you and advicing you. This is exactly what I am doing. OPEN YOUR MIND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

kazey:
And much more, and to be honest with you, I have not seen any other Nigerian yet, ready to learn by researching on their own and just asking one direct question or the other. Rather they want HOW TO MAKE IT QUICK 101 type of business, if it is one.

A few words of advice is:-

1. If you are looking for a quick way to earn an income online, then forum is definitely not something you would earn a quick bucks in.
2. If you are not willing to learn on your own, then you would never be successful in a forum.
3. And lastly you must have the time and the money to run a forum like this.

Consistency, Dedication and Content is the key to a successful forum, for this is the only secret behind the success of nairaland. Nevertheless Success to you might not be success to Seun and vis versa and hence I might just be ranting.

lcharm:
if you don't have anything good or important to add, i think its best you don't reply a thread

They didn't teach you what was the meaning of OPINION in school, and that a forum is where you hear two perspectives of something, delivered in different ways?

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One interesting thing I found about Nigerians, is that they are only interested in an idea, concept or even model, when someone has gone through all the hurdles and pitfalls to become successfull in it.

Forums is a very good example. You see Nigerians, all over the internet trying to start forums because Seun is acclaimed to make a fortune from his forum. What you forget to try to understand is

1. How much time, Seun has invested into Nairaland.
2. How much money, Seun has invested into Nairaland.
3. How much reading and research, Seun has been doing, to reach this level of achievement.
4. What ups and downs, Seun has undergone, to reach this level.

And much more, and to be honest with you, I have not seen any other Nigerian yet, ready to learn by researching on their own and just asking one direct question or the other. Rather they want HOW TO MAKE IT QUICK 101 type of business, if it is one.

A few words of advice is:-

1. If you are looking for a quick way to earn an income online, then forum is definitely not something you would earn a quick bucks in.
2. If you are not willing to learn on your own, then you would never be successful in a forum.
3. And lastly you must have the time and the money to run a forum like this.

Consistency, Dedication and Content is the key to a successful forum, for this is the only secret behind the success of nairaland. Nevertheless Success to you might not be success to Seun and vis versa and hence I might just be ranting.