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BALLOSKI:
we've lost to them only 5 times and they were at important games.

And those games were stolen from us through bias officiating.

Adaisback:
Good for them. The Elephants should try their best to win the bronze medal at least, while the super eagles should go for the gold

The Super Eagles don't have what it takes to win the trophy unless they up their game. We don't have a good midfield.

The President takes the bulk of the blame. He is the commander in chief of the armed forces.

One way this killing will stop is to sack any soldier of police in charge of the community or district where such killing occur.

By the time you do it to one, two or more people, other security personnel will do their job.

PCHC:
No man has ascended up to heaven until the Son of man, but there were men that was taken into heaven. You must differentiate between "Ascending? Climbed into heaven" and "Taken/caught up into heaven."

Use this example: "No fish has ascended or climbed a mountain or tree outside water, but there are fishes that were caught up/taken up to a mountain or tree by birds or land animals that took such fishes up there outside the waters."

Before the Lord Jesus Christ came as the Son born of a woman, there were men of God that were taken or caught up into heaven either by the Hand of God, by Clouds, by visions, by angels, or by Chariots of fire and horses. Adam was caught up by God's Hand into the first heaven (Garden of Eden) as soon as he was made a living soul. Enoch was translated and caught up into heaven because God took him. Elijah too was caught up by chariots and horses that were heavenly, not earthy horses that cannot stand fire.

Moreover, entering heaven is as simple as entering the spiritual realms like a portal. So prophets of God such as Moses, Samuel, Isaiah, Michaiah, Ezekiel, etc. that saw God entered heaven in spirit though their physical bodies were on earth. Ezekiel was getting caught up by the Spirit even with his whole body.

Yet, none of these men ascended into heaven even though they have been in heaven. The idea is that, it's not by their own hands; they had grace or help to get into heaven, which means they did not ascend into heaven but they got into heaven or where taken there by God's helping Hand or grace. It's like God not wanting the man to stretch out his hand and take of the tree of life and eat and live forever, by his hand except by God's helping hand.

Don't forget in Jacob's dream, angels were ascending and descending heaven on the ladder; and so it is with angels ascending and descending on the Son of man, the Lord Jesus Christ. And Manoah saw the man of God (angel) ascending on the smoke of the burnt offerings.

The Word, "Ascend into heaven" means "Exaltation:" and the word "Descend from heaven" means "Humbleness." It comes with implications to say someone ascend into heaven. Such implications include:

[1.]. Whoever ascended or ascends into heaven is automatically "God" or "Son of God:" Lucifer tried to qualify as God by attempting to ascend into heaven, but failed: As it is written, "For you have said in your heart, "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." -- [Isaiah 14:13-14]

But the Lord Jesus Christ was the Son of man who first descended from heaven and also ascended, qualifying as the true God or Son of God. As it is written, "When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive and gave gifts to men." (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is the same also as He who ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fill all things.) - [Ephesians 4:8-10 MKJV]

So the Lord Jesus Christ saying no man has ascended into heaven does not mean no man has being in heaven, but means no man is God enough to do so. Acts of the Apostles says, "For David has not ascended into the heavens, but David (in spirit or in heavenly realm) says himself, "The LORD said to my Lord, Sit at My right hand until I place Your enemies as a footstool to Your feet." Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God made this same Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." - [Acts 2:34-36 MKJV]

So we agree that whoever descended and ascended into heaven is God, even if He is a Man. As it is written, "Who has ascended up into heaven, or descended? who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? what is His name, and what is His Son's name, if you can tell? - [Proverbs 30:4 KJV]

[2.]. The second implication of saying one ascends heaven, but as God's Holy Hill, is that person is fully Worthy, Holy and Qualified in Righteousness; and that the everlasting doors will respect that person enough to open for him/her in the process of ascending. This is contained in this Psalm as it is written,

Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in His holy place? He that has clean hands, and a pure heart; who has not lifted up his soul to vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. This is the generation of them that seek Him, that seek your face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O you gates; and be you lift up, you everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O you gates; even lift them up, you everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, He is the King of glory. Selah. - [Psalms 24:3-10 KJV]

All these explanation for a simple verse.

If you know the far reaching effect of the sin of Adam passed on to every generation, you will not be writing this long essay.

The saints of Old couldn't enter heaven because their sins were not remitted. They all went to Abraham's bosom. They only had the legal right to enter heaven after Jesus paid the price for our sins.

Most of the true life stories of those who went to hell reveal the fact that they are first taken up to the sky before descending into hell through one of the tunnel.

If Elijah could make heaven, what is the essence of Jesus coming to die for mankind?

Satan will have the right to fault God's judicial system if he permit anyone to enter heaven when the price of sin has not been paid.

Maybe, this is too high for you. I won't bother to explain more to you. You can stick to your belief.

MrPresident1:
So was Jesus sinful? He was hungry, he was tired, was he sinful?

He was tempted in every way but without sin.

MindHacker9009:
None followers of Jesus christ the lucifer do have testimonies too.

God Almighty of the Torah is the only True God.

Jesus christ the lucifer said these signs below will follow those that believe. Can you pick up snakes, can you speak a new tongue like Japanese?

Mark 16:17,18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues (Like Japanese);
18 "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all”

Snake bites pastor who picked up a snake because Jesus christ the lucifer said believers will pick up snake.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7tPc04avOs

Yes, I can pick up snakes if the occasion demands. I have been poisoned several times and I am still alive. The same poison that will kill you in few minutes.

MrPresident1:
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh,

What you are saying contradicts what is written and does not make sense. The entirety of the word was made flesh; Jesus is the living breathing walking talking Word of God.

If he was hungry, and tired, was he also sinful?

The passage you quoted affirm what I said. Divinity in human flesh. That brought him to the level of man. If he functioned as God on earth, he would not need to pray. But he prayed to his Father regularly.

Hence, he was also referred as the son of man.

He came to represent man. He didn't face Satan as God. That will be unjust to Satan. He defeated Satan as man and got the victory for mankind.

He even said that only the Father knows the day of his returning. If he functioned as God on earth, he should have known everything.

MaxInDHouse:
So if John the baptist is not qualified and he is not lesser than any human before him that means no human before John the baptist qualified to go up to heaven and what is the criteria for going to heaven?
You must first be a Christian which makes the Christians greater than all those prophets mentioned in the Bible!

You still don't understand the statement of Jesus. He never said that John the Baptist will not make heaven. He said that as great as John the Baptist is, the least person who will make heaven is greater than John the Baptist.

MindHacker9009:
You know you are the lair. All you listed are what Jesus christ the lucifer has invented to deceive many.

It's not about history. Jesus is still doing miracles. Lost souls receive salvation and they know deep within that they are changed persons.

Miracles still happens at the mention of his name.

So, I have tasted and know that Jesus is real. He is still changing lives.

Receive now as your Lord and Savior and you will come back with testimonies.

Two countries I don't like us meeting at the knockout stage is Ghana and Cameron. The moment they are playing against Nigeria, they do it with their last drop of blood. But I am certain we will win.

MindHacker9009:
Thats what Jesus christ the lucifer is using to deceive you.

You know deep within you that you are lying.

False prophets have character traits in them and our Lord Jesus doesn't have any of such traits.

Rather, Jesus proved himself to be the Savior of the world indeed;

1. His miraculous birth is one evidence to who Jesus is. Every other man on earth is born through the biological process.

2. He lived a sinless life.

3. He performed matchless miracles.

4. He made unique statement and claims that no one else on earth dare make.

5. He conquered death. His tomb is empty. Hallelujah.

6. He ascended to heaven without an aircraft in the very presence of his disciples. The law of gravity couldn't hold him down.

7. And he is coming back again. People like you will look for where to hide when he comes back. But there will be no hiding place.

MaxInDHouse:
Was Jesus talking about people who has been resurrected or awaiting resurrection at Matthew 11:11?

He made that statement to emphasize the glory of those who will make heaven compared with those on earth.

MindHacker9009:
You are an anti God of the Torah, since you believe in Jesus christ the lucifer.

No one come to God except through Jesus.

Israel as a nation is blind. But the blindness be removed during the great tribulation period. The same Jesus they rejected will be the one that will come and rescue them.

MrPresident1:
The bolded is completely wrong

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus Christ is the entire word of God, so you saying he did not understand what he wrote, and what he is, is entirely not correct. Even sounds blasphemous sef

Yes, he is the word of God in human flesh. But he was completely human. This is why he could be hungry. He also got tired. These are attributes of humanity. I will explain more later.

MaxInDHouse:
So no RESURRECTION for RIGHTEOUS ONES as they're now with Jesus in heaven. Act 24:15
Misinformed Churchgoers!

They saints of the Old testament are already resurrected. The scripture says;

Matthew 27:52-54
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

The passage above says;

1. That the graves opened. So, they were resurrected.
2. Bodies of the Saints which slept arose. Their bodies are not longer in the grave. Their tomb is empty.
3. They appeared to many. It means that they could be seen.

But for the saints of the New Testament, they are in heaven in their spirit form. They will be resurrected on the day of rapture.

PCHC:
Not all the saints went to Abraham's bosom when they died by then, except Lazarus and perhaps few children of Abraham. There were other places where the saints were collected after they died depending on how they died. E.g. Those who were martyred or killed, such as Abel, were not collected in the same place with those righteous ones who died natural death like Abraham. Many saints had died before Abraham was born. So disabuse your mind about "Abraham's bosom."

However, Elijah was translated so that he should not see death: and therefore, Elijah became a spirit or immortal, which is beyond what could be held in Abraham's bosom or any place in hell beneath. Indeed, Elijah became as Angel of God in heaven, like Enoch.

Read the passage below and explain it.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Elijah didn't go to heaven. He didn't have the legal ground to go to heaven. He went to Abraham's bosom. This is where all the saints of old went to when they die or mysteriously taken away.

Yes, they saw him ascend. But I am very certain he descended from the sky to Abraham's bosom.

It was after Jesus resurrection that all the saints in Abraham's bosom were released and went with Jesus to heaven.

The op is an anti Christ. Jesus is the Savior of the world. And he proved it with his matchless miracles and resurrection from the dead.

MrPresident1:
Matthew 16:28
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Jesus is not talking about the death of the flesh, but the death of the soul. A dead soul has lost connection with God.

A living soul has connection with God. The soul is the bridge between the spirit and the flesh. The soul receives from the spirit and guide the actions of the flesh. The spirit receives from the Spirit of God

Job 32:8
King James Version
8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

I don't agree with you. He was talking about physical death. Jesus as a man on earth didn't know at that time the plan God has for the Gentile nations. It was a mystery at that time. So, if not for this church age, the prophecy would have been fulfilled.

The afterlife is real. Heaven is real and hell is also real. Where your soul goes to after you have left this earth depends on what you did with Jesus.

You either receive Him as the Lord of your life or meet him as your judge. Jesus is inescapable. The choice is yours.

There is no where in the Bible where it supports same sex relationship. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this reason. And it's also condemned in the New Testament. Those who practice them are not Christians.

MaxInDHouse:
Some of his disciples (former) thought he was an advocate of cannibalism or Satanism as he spoke of the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood! John 6:61-64

If they believe his four disciples then how come majority don't accept him till today?
You guys are only following what majority in your neighbourhood are saying not what you can prove.

The Jews will never ever believe Jesus as a nation it's few humans from different countries that will understand just as the Bible says! John 1:11-12 compare to Daniel 12:10

Continue deceiving yourself you have no proof other than what people around you are saying if you say you don't believe him millions around the world believe him and his miracles so go and sit down!

Each time you come up with a defense, you exhibit your ignorance. God has a plan for Israel and a remnant has been earmarked for salvation in the end time. Read the passage below and the explanation that followed;

Romans 11:25-26

25  For I would not, brethren, THAT YE SHOULD BE IGNORANT of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that BLINDNESS IN PART IS HAPPENED TO ISRAEL, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 

 26  And so ALL ISRAEL SHALL BR SAVED: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Notice the following about the passage above;

1. Israel is partially blind.
2. The blindness opened the door of salvation for the Gentiles.
This is why our Lord Jesus said;

John 1:11-12
11  He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

 12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 

3. The blindness will be removed when all Gentiles that need to be saved are saved. And this will happen during the first great tribulation period after the rapture of the church. Some members of the church of the Gentiles left behind will still be saved as indicated in Revelation 7:9-17.

4. All Israel that will refuse to worship the image of the beast during the persecution of the Jews will be saved. And they will reign with Christ on earth for 1,000 years.

Even Apostle Paul confirmed that God is able to graft them back again;

Romans 11:23  And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

Please, leave that cult that is blinding your eyes from understanding God's word. I have warned you. If you don't repent, you will perish in the burning hell you deny its existence.

The system of the world is designed to fall. Just stay under divine cover and no harm will come near you.

Most of our leaders are controlled by demons. This is why the system of government is called DEMONcracy. Most decisions they take only makes life bitter and not better. But during campaigns, they behave like God sent. They will not be in that seat forever.

MaxInDHouse:
The four witnesses you believe are disciples of Jesus not former but those that died as his disciples. Why not ask Jews who aren't his disciples?
If you ask disciples of TB Joshua they will also speak good things about their leader nah!

Those who accuse T B Joshua provided evidences. But the Jews have no evidence against Jesus.

They didn't believe in him because he didn't come the way they expected. They thought he should have come from a Royal family. But he came from the least family and from the least tribe.

They also got angry because Jesus said he is the Son of God.

They were expecting Jesus to lead them to battle also.

The Jews never denied the witnesses of the four gospel.

They are just blinded. One day, the blindness will be removed and the remnant will believe in Jesus.

I have always known that T B Joshua was not a genuine servant of God from what he did while on Earth. The testimonies of those accusing him just affirmed my stand.

But you don't know how to know who is a genuine servant of God because you are not yet saved. So, stop all these defences and receive the free gift of salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
Were you alive in the first century or you're just following what majority around you are saying?
You're not even an Israelite but those accusing Jesus were Jews.
You're not alive back in the first century while his accusers were his contemporaries.
You never saw him while his accusers were his own disciples.
You don't have the knowledge about their religion as those people who knew so much about their own religion.

So how come you say they don't have evidence yet siding with accusers of TB Joshua that you don't even know any of them in person?

What God's word said is clear:
Any complaint must get at least two witnesses who will confirm the incident actually happened as the narrator presented it and they will be thoroughly scrutinized to be sure that they actually saw it happened.

Guy that's what discredited the witnesses of all those accusing Jesus and those accusing TB Joshua hasn't done anything better.

The man is dead, some people wanted to take over his business church, the wife disagreed, most females love dating famous and wealthy men so they might be jealous of the fact that despite all their secret romance with this man the wife never allowed them to get anything from his property, there are many competitors who are eyeing his members because it's out of what the guy is making from them that he was spending to buy the love of his admirers.

So a lot needs to be considered not just what people are saying that's why i told you if we're to go by the number of accusers in comparison to his admirers they are nothing at all!

I wasn't alive when Jesus was born but there are documented historical evidences of his words and works. At least we have four witnesses, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And there is no writings from the Jews to counter what they wrote. Or are you aware of any?

The blasphemy they accused Jesus of is that he claimed to be the Son of God. But he is the Son of God. Their problem is unbelief.

Those accusing TB Joshua are not hidden faces. If their accusations are not true, the ministry should sue them.

If up to three persons accuse you of rape and even publish it, what will you do? Just keep quiet? I am sure you will not keep quiet. You will take them to court to clear your name. Just saying it's not true is not enough. Please try and have a little sense on this issue. You like arguing blindly.

Laple0541:
Osimhen needs to go and learn how to score a goal from better strikers. It’s shameful a supposed best player in Africa is missing those chances.

How many chances did he miss? I can only remember two clear chances! One in the first game and one in the game with Ivory Coast.

It can happen to anyone. I believe two more opportunities like that would have gotten him a clear goal. But they were not forth coming.

At least he scored in the first game and gave us penalty in the second.

MaxInDHouse:
Today thousands of Jews are saying Jesus was a blasphemer and an impostor just as their first century people does that makes Jesus useless to you?

They don't have evidences of what they are saying against Jesus. But those accusing TB Joshua have evidences.

MaxInDHouse:
You people don't understand what is happening!

If we're to go by the number of people saying he is a true man of God against those accusers it will be like 1000 against 1 that's what you guys need to know.
So if one person is accusing him a thousand is ready to stand up for him that's why anyone accusing him needs eyewitnesses to confirm the accusation and investigation will be carried out but saying accusers are many then think of those hailing him as a man of God!

Even if you have a million and one person for you, the very moment only two persons have evidences against you, it's enough to nail you. This is what the law also says. So, it's not about the majority liking him. They probably don't know him enough. Let them interview all the disciples that stayed with him.

I am ready for any score line. Losing will be better for us for a long term gain. The coach will be sacked and the team will be overhauled. That is if we have learnt our lessons.

Donaldoni:
He promised to refund them if they don't get blessed

Great!

Story. What determines if they are blessed? Besides, there is no where in the scripture that the whole of your first fruit is demanded. It's the best.