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Mayntheemaynn:
it is not to be taken literal, the verse in isiah says sheol, that is grave. there is always space for dead people to be buried.

That is what you were taught by Russell and Rutherford who deliberately want to oppose the word of God.

Think very well.

Do graves enlarge themselves?

Do graves open mouth?

Do graves have gates? Jesus talked about the gates of hell.

Do people weep and gnash their teeth in the grave? Jesus talked about weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell.

Please, delete those rubbish that you have been taught and relearn. It's for your own good.

Both of your founders are already in hell in great torment. Unless you want to join them.

IrepChrist:
Nigeria needs leaders that can create wealth. People that can think outside the box. We have the potentials but we lack visionary leaders.

We have them but they won't allow them unless you are in the cult like them and you are ready to kill. But I see Redeemtion for Nigeria very soon.

Michael547:
So if the soul cannot make contact with physical earth? How come it is in hell which is in the earth according to you?
So Adam may likely be in heaven right?

There is a physical earth and there is a spiritual earth. The physical earth clothes the spiritual earth. Just as you have the physical heaven and the spiritual heaven. No matter how high you fly, you will never see the spiritual heaven where God dwells.

Hell itself is a spirit being lying on her back at the center of the spiritual earth. It has every part of the human. It has mouth. This is why the scripture says;

Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

The verse above also says that hell enlarges itself to accommodate more people.

Michael547:
So how does the soul survive the death of the body?
Is Adam also in hell fire now? I would need a biblical backup.

The soul can live independent of the body. The only thing the soul cannot do is to make contact with the physical earth. It needs a physical body to do that.

God is the only one that can determine the destination of people.

So, Adam destiny was not revealed. God only talked of his body returning to the dust.

But I know that all those who were destroyed during the Noah's flood are in hell.

Sodom and Gomorrah inhabitants are also in hell.

One of the main cause of high price in food items is transportation.

Get the railways to work effectively across major cities and price will drop.

The second reason is that most farmers still use manual means of planting. The government should invest in agriculture and ensure that planting and harvesting is mechanized. It will increase production rate with subsequent drop in prices.

Lastly, they should improve on security to protect farmers from bandits and terrorists.

Michael547:
So where is the location of hell and the lake of fire.....what part of the human body goes there?

Hell is beneath the earth. The depth is so deep that no man can dig into it. For those who are dead, it's their souls that goes to hell.

The Lake of fire is a worse place of torment than hell. It's going to be made ready when the time comes. Both body and soul are thrown into the Lake of fire.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is rubbish. Satan is in hell yet he is on earth destroying and causing many to fall?

Then do you imagine that God would give satan a territory where he can be free?

The throwing of hell and death into Lake of fire already tells you that they are independent things.

Satan still has the legal right to rule this earth but not the moral right.

He has such power that the fire of hell does not hurt him. He moves to and fro. He holds meetings in the dark hell and in other specific locations on earth.

He supervises the torture in hell because it is his domain.

Dtruthspeaker:
How can you say devil and demons are in charge yet you agreed that they too are thrown in there to suffer like the rest of the other infellows?.

Hell is the domain of Satan and his demons. They have been there even before man was created. So, lost souls are thrown into there.

It's the Lake of fire that the devil will be thrown into. The Lake of fire is not the same as hell.

Dtruthspeaker:
You can worship anyday but Friday evening to.saturday evening is The Holy Day.

There is no such thing under the New Testament Dispensation. Read the verse below;

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.

Romans 15:5-6
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. note

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Who turned Mohammed into a killer, persecuting Christians and none Muslim during the time of Jihad?

AntiChristian

TruthHurts100:
I've always wondered. Pastors in the house, please your attention is needed. Help us answer this.

Thanks.

Your question should have been, who is in charge and not who will be in charge because the punishment is already going on for those currently in hell.

The devil and demons under his control are in charge.

But when they face the final judgement and those in hell are thrown into the Lake of fire, the angels of God will supervise their torment. The devil himself will be thrown inside. It's a liquid fire that they will all swim and cry and wail for the rest of their lives.

Gabrie300:
BY CHUKS GABRIEL
There have been alot of arguments concerning the real day of worship
But please can you guys share your own idea of whether Saturday is the right day or Sunday?

You can worship any day you choose to provided it's done to God's glory.

God is more interested in the state of your heart than a day of worship. This is why Apostle Paul said;

Romans 14:5-6.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks

GistMedia0:
A woman ditches her sponsor for a new love, but her ex storms the church during the televised wedding, shouting, "Oga pastor, I took her from the village, I trained her, it will not happen!" Ushers quickly intervene, halting the vows. Shocked viewers left wondering what's next.

This experience can be so painful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x5SRzcbKVY

Same story, same negative result in most cases. Stop making huge investment in someone you are yet to get married to unless you are just doing it without any string attached.

If you don't want to learn from the experiences of others, you will learn it the hard way.

AntiChristian:
The Lamb of God has been killed by Abraham! Na original lamb be that! Human being Jesus no be Lamb! No be only lamb na goat!



Same Matthew said:
Matthew 12:7
If only you had known the meaning of 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.



Is the writer of Hebrew confused?
[b]Hebrews 10:6
In burnt offerings and sin offerings You took no delight.[/b]

You are hopelessly confused.

JealousCobra:
You should have suggest why local coaches are better.

1. A local coach has won Afcon for us in the person of Late Stephen Keshi of blessed memory.
2. We will spend far less.
3. He will be more patriotic. He won't succumb to pressure easily to sell its match.
4. They understand the pattern of our football.

It's annoying what just happened in the final of the Afcon. I don't feel too hurt because we lost. I am upset because we didn't play good football. Why can't our players put the ball on the ground and pass it from defense to attack. They kept sending long passes upfront hoping that Osimhen will get the ball and score. They just put Osimhen under undue pressure.

Long passage are only done when you sight an attacker in an advantaged position. How can they call themselves professional and play worse than amatures.

Please, we don't need foreign coaches anymore. They are pipe drain of our common wealth.

The best foreign coach we had was Westerhof. But he also messed up when he gave away our win to Italy team cheaply. We were in total control of that game. But I believe it was sold because of the way they permitted Italy to equalize 2 minutes to the end of the game. Bonfere Joe years later confirmed it but he lost in court. There was no way he could have won the case because it will implicate the Italian team and the white will protect his own.

The bottom line is, no more foreign coaches.

The final was not competitive at all. The Super Eagles played like the inferior team. See the damage coach has done to our football.

If the players are not good enough to keep the ball on the ground, why didn't he scout for the best players to play each position. This is not our pattern of game. They should go and watch USA 94 and Spain 98 squad.

Even Late Strpuen Keshi team is far better than this set of players. I am even surprise that we got to the final. I love good football. I don't care if we win or lose. Let me see good football.

AntiChristian:
So God cherish human blood than animal blood? Does he drink it like a vampire? He could have just created an endless pool of blood to drink if He needs blood!



God needs no sacrifice!
1.
But Samuel declared: “Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obedience to His voice? Behold, obedience is better than sacrifice, and attentiveness is better than the fat of rams. 1 Samuel 15:22

2.
Matthew 12:7
If only you had known the meaning of 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.

3.
Mark 12:33
and to love Him with all your heart and with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself, which is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices."

4.
Hebrews 10:6
In burnt offerings and sin offerings You took no delight.

5.
Psalm 40:6
Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, but my ears You have opened. Burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not require.

6.
Psalm 51:15-16
O Lord, open my lips, and my mouth will declare Your praise. For You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; You take no pleasure in burnt offerings.

Ken4christ abi all these bolded verses are lies?

You can quote scriptures like this and you didn't see these verses below;

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Amotolongbo:
He deserves it.

Worst player should go to Iwobi

And the worst coach is our coach.

How dare he reduce the Super Eagles to a team that cannot put ball on the ground and play.

They keep playing the long passes upfront and made Osimhen to exhaust himself.

Any coach that comes to coach the Super Eagles should please watch USA 94 & 98. team.

The NFF should stop the politics of imposing players on the couch.

It's a shame that a nation of over 200 million people cannot assembly 11 good players to represent us.

AntiChristian:
So the Biblical God wasn't satisfied with animals again then moved to human?
That's like yahoo yahoo to Yahoo plus!

That theory is from Babalawo/Boka/Dibia ritualists!

The quality of life of the blood of animals is not the same as that of human. We are far superior to animals. This is why the sacrifices of animals cannot pay for the sins of mankind. It only covered or atone for their sins for one year.

So, God needed a perfect sacrifice that will meet the demand of Justice. This is why his Son Jesus had to come to take up a human flesh and paid the price.

Legally, everyone is free. But it can only profit you when you accept it. This is why Jesus said;

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

He said further;

John 3:18

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

So, the choice is yours. If you believe, you will be saved. If you don't, you are condemned.

The coach should try and watch Super Eagles of 94 & 98 set see how we play football. Team that even top team in Europe and South America cannot overwhelm.

Sack the coach and all the players. Leave only Lookman, Osimhen, Ekon and Bassey. The rest are overrated players.

MaxInDHouse:
So Nigerians referring to the hard situation in the country as Hell are dead shey?

No point arguing with you. You have nothing to say.

AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't start any church nor present in the collation and canonisation of the Bible! Christianity was created after him! You should use your brain!

No be only Apostles! Wetin Jesus write himself?



No one can die for anyone! You'll carry your burden while I carry mine! Even Jesus will carry his own burden! Same as other Prophets!

No one confirmed Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam in the Books your founding fathers cannonise for you!

In the original scriptures of many prophets the news of Muhammad was given!

You don't understand the principle of atonement. Under the Old testament, animals were sacrificed to atone for the sins of the Jews. But it wasn't a perfect sacrifice. It only last for one year.

That is why Jesus came as a perfect sacrifice for sins and he has paid for the sins of the whole world, including yours. He is the only one qualified to die as he had no nature of sin in him. But anyone who rejects it will perish in hell.

Mohammed was a sinner. And he didn't make provision for your salvation. Only Jesus did.

You will regret in burning hell for the rest of your life if you reject this offer of the free gift of salvation. The choice is yours.

Prophets should give direction to our leaders on how we can come out of this economic and security crises instead of predicting the outcome of matches.

Democracy should just end in Nigeria. The government doesn't have it's citizens in mind. They enjoy our Commonwealth and protect themselves leaving the masses vulnerable.

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Faiththatworks:
Thanks very much Oga kperogi for the wonderful suggestions in this article.
I appreciate Oga kperogi for not going back to the need to reintroduce Petrol Subsidy,most of his articles used to always criticize the removal of Fuel subsidy,but I appreciate him for going past that suggestion,and instead proffering solutions to the hardship in Nigeria.
I have always said Nairaland should be the bastion of intellectual discourse online in Nigeria.
Nairaland should be a forum where Government officials resort to when they are trying to assess the mood and tension on what's going on all over the country.
Back to the topic,Oga kperogi has chipped in his own opinion,which is affordable and subsided Transportation in these hard times and I really believe Government should look at his suggestions.
I want to call on The Government of Lagos state to please go to subsiding The BRT buses all over the state,I know they tried a lot last year especially during the campaigns but I believe this is the best time to reintroduce the subsidy,that will really help the citizens in this crushing times.
I end by saying this,last week I read an article about the free fall of the Naira on Nairaland,and I was amazed at the wonderful suggestions made by some patriotic Nigerians.
I was suprised there are still very very intelligent people on this platform,God bless you,I really hope we keep proffering Solutions to the Problem of Nigeria instead of this unending complains,I know there's hardship but Now is the time to offer solutions and not join the bandwagon.
Nigeria must be great again, Asiwaju will be there for the next 3 years, we owe it to Nigeria to make sure it comes out better not worse under him.

The real cause of our problem is the exchange rate of naira to dollar. And why is naira falling? Nigeria is not a producing country. We import over 90% of what we consume. So the sure way forward is an industrial revolution. China started it about there decades ago. Now, they are among the economic power in the world.

We have talented Nigerians showcasing what they can do from time to time. But the government turn blind eyes to them.

Who say government cannot be directly involved in industries? Malaysia government came to Nigeria to get our Palm carnel seeds. Now, they are the biggest exporter of Palm oil.

Our leaders are mentally lazy. All they think is how to initiate project that can give them money.

I can go on and on.

In the mid seventies, naira value was higher than dollar. And our revenue was majorly from agricultural products. What happened? They abandoned it to focus on fast revenue that oil brings.

To make things worse, they are not open to ideas or suggestions. Because there needs are met. What is happening does not affect them.

I hope he doesn't have heart attack? There are too many cases of heart attack while watching football unheard of before now.

MaxInDHouse:
Quote where the Bible said "Jonah died"

Where did he cry from? From hell. You can't go to hell unless you are dead.

Who will be thrown into the ocean and survive for one hour talk more of there days?

Can you breathe under water. Maybe we should use you as an experiment. If you can stay under water for 30 minutes, I will give you 100k.

MaxInDHouse:
So Jonah was miraculously preserved alive in the belly of the fish he never went to your fairy Hell. For him to say Hell (Grave) he simply means that place would have become his grave had it been that God didn't intervene.

Jonah died. His soul went to hell and not you physical grave. Notice he said he was in affliction. Jonah 2:2

There is no affliction in physical grave since the dead knows nothing according to you.

He also said that his soul fainted. That is the immortal soul. It fainted by reason of the affliction.

Souls do not faint in the physical grave.

So, he was conscious of what happened to him after death. It was his prayer in hell that God heard and brought him back to life.

No one prays in the physical grave.

Meanwhile, you are avoiding my post in Revelation 6 which proves that the immortal soul are conscious after death.

On top of the hardship, our federal roads are bad, no regular power supply and insecurity is on the rise. And they keep stealing money meant for the masses.

MaxInDHouse:
Shadrach, Meshak and Abednego were thrown into a burning furnace which killed those that threw them there yet King Nebuchadnezzar called them out from the fire.
Jump into a burning furnace and see if you won't burn to aches.
God changed the burning furnace that could have been hell (grave) for the three Hebrews into a parlour of air conditioner the same way He turned the belly of a fish into a room where Jonah could still continue breathing and praying.
They were never dead!

That was a miracle from God. Physical fire will of course burn your body but it cannot destroy the immortal soul. This is why souls that were dead could cry out even after they have been slain and buried;

Revelation 6:9-11.
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar THE SOULS of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And THEY CRIED with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And WHITE ROBES were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Notice the passage above said that;

1. The souls of them that was slain cried out for vengeance. They were already dead and buried but their souls are still alive and they could cry.

2. They were even given White robes to put on. This is the spiritual clothing of the souls or spirit of saints who died. They still have all their shape and body parts intact. The only thing is that they can't make contact with the physical world.

So, erase those doctrines that teaches you that the dead are not conscious. They are even more conscious than you like it is clearly stated in the story of the Rich man and Lazarus.

AntiChristian:
We can see from the above "and from that day on the spirit of Yahweh came powerfully on David (Just like Samson in Judges 14)".

But in 2 Samuel

David saw Bathsheba taking her bath and was attracted!
He sent his husband Uriah to death in battle to have her!

So where was the holy Spirit in David?
What was the holy Spirit doing in David?

FxMasterz
TenQ
Sirtee15

It seems only the New Testament Holy Spirit is perfect!
That in OT no get joy at all!

Man is a free moral agents and he is subject to temptations. And God has made provisions for our shortcomings.

As far as we are living in this sinful flesh, we will still make errors from time to time.

So, you didn't say anything.