₦airaland Forum

Boss13:
Do these people/members really know why they are giving? It is really a choice with the false teaching flowing daily from these fraudulent pastors and their wives? Are these fraudulent pastors preaching the truth about tithe and offerings to their members? Do these fraudulent pastors actually know the truth?

Don’t you think if people are avail the truth about tithe and offerings, their giving behavior would change? Why not offer them the truth that tithe has nothing to do with salvation or prosperity and that giving is merely a choice out of free will and grants you no special condition.

Bros, the truth is that less than 20% of church goers give their tithes faithfully. When it comes to sowing seeds, only a very small percentage of church members do it. Majority do it (sow seeds) as a sacrifice to God, and I agree many also do it cos they have certain needs, and they believe they would get answers thru the sowing. Among Christians that give, only in very few cases people give everything they have. Why is it really a big deal?

If I earn 100k a month and I give 10% as tithe, I settle it in my mind that I earn 90k a month. I plan my life with the 90k. I may decide that I won't be hanging out with friends like my other colleagues may be doing. There are many uther things I can do to manage that amount that remains for me. How then have I been defrauded?

The truth is that money is meant to be spent. We spend money on different things. Those who don't give tithes or sow seeds spend their money in other ways. Maybe instead of renting a finer and more expensive house, I might choose to rent a cheaper one. At the end, I will still have enough for myself.

Do you want to know the real truth about giving? When you get saved, all your money belongs to God. The early Church didn't have to give tithe because they gave their all. People sold off everything they had and gave to the church. How many of us can do that now? I know I may not be able to give EVERYTHING so I give the 10% to God and ask Him to mercifully accept the little I have returned to Him out of the abundance He has given me.

The sad thing with these anti-giving messages is that if it continues like this, the church will be crumbled over the years. When more and more people are discouraged from giving to the church, the church will stand a risk of becoming incapacitated.
Yes, many church leaders are mismanaging funds, but we shouldn't throw away the baby with the bath water.

Biglittlelois:
If you read what was written above which obviously you didnt you will see Osho said the truth, i'm not in support of any stupid party, but once in a while lets put aside our hate for this government,

What he said was Ngige awarded contracts without following due process or getting approval from the board members, we all know clueless Buhari will overlook it as always but Osho is trying put him in check, apc nitwits in government take advantage of the fact that bubu is dull that's why they behave and loot anyhow, pls let's always argue, support and oppose fairly next time.

And yet they still think Buhari is the best we can have as a president... It's a big shame.

fk001:
PDP had failed us they have nothing to offer.


Buhari is our only saviour he is the best presidential candidate for now.



PMB till 2023

Almost 4 years since Buhari's first tenure, he's the only saviour your own Nigeria has. Now, let's assume he stays till 2023, will Nigeria be sold after his tenure? Who then will take over from him whenever this tenure ends?
How come almost 4 years down the line, he hasn't built a system or at least set up one institution that is as strong as himself (assuming he's really as strong as he's touted to be)? Every successful establishment is built on systems that are sustainable, not on individuals. Buhari is a failure.

Bidobado:
I was one of those who signed the petition. They can keep on robbing you guys back home blindly, but we here will not tolerate that crap. It is obscene, immoral and predatory.
No sane government will allow this.

But those that give do that out of choice. They are adults. You can use your money to buy a car or hang out with friends. You can even go for vacation. What if I decide that instead of going for a vacation, I will give that money to a pastor? Don't I have the right as a sane adult? How is it your business how I spend my money as an adult?

midolian:
If the reign of APC ends next year(which will happen only in dreams), I don't have a problem with it. What I have a problem with is youths clamouring for the return of PDP after all the evil umbrella party has done and is still doing..

In summary, the problem of this country is the youths (people like you In particular)..and sadly, the future of these youths are in a cobweb but they don't know

The people that perpetrated the evil under PDP are no longer in PDP. Most of them are in APC now. Why are you still pointing at PDP? Are El Rufai, Amaechi, Saraki, Ngige, Orji Ozor Kalu etc not in APC now? Is Obj still in PDP?

What about the evil this demonic party is doing now? Can Nigeria survive another 4 years under this maladministration?

DontBeStupid:
The north is the reason this country is backward.
Backwardness is in their DNA.

After producing over 95 percent of presidents & heads of state, they still remain a sorry case... Tufiakwa!

GOD FORBID!!!

North East - Boko Haram
North Central - Fulani Herdsmen
North West - Armed Bandits

Same modus operandi, same effect on d affected population.

And yet, some people want us to keep sharing a country with those beasts up north?

NASTYNASOSO:
HMMMMMMM

ONE QUESTION
ARE YOU THE PERSON THAT KILLED ALL THE COWS YOU HAVE BEEN EATING

Oga, stop talking irrationally.

First, when did those cows die? We eat beef from cows that are killed and butchered immediately, not cows that possibly died more than a day ago.

Secondly, we don't even know what killed the cows. What if they were poisoned? The poisons could remain in their flesh and could be toxic to those that eat them.

Ideally, there are abbatoirs in which live cows are inspected by vets before being killed for public consumption. Even if there are no vets to inspect them, the normal beef traders are usually there when the cows are slaughtered before being butchered.
Stop supporting evil, whether you're saying all these with seriousness or you're simply joking.

Donald95:
Her name is Amuuche

In Igbo, Amụ means Pus.sy

Uche means Brain.

In other words, She used her Amụ to twist his Uche. That girl is something else.

BTW Yoruba and Fraud is like...

Amuche = Ama uche = ama uche Chukwu = who knows the mind of God?

BTW, amụ = penís not pússy

Uche doesn't mean brain.

Uche = sense/mind/reasoning

Brain = ụbụrụ

Ejimagift:
Are Muslims not the majority in Nigeria? Are Christians up to Muslims in number? What is bad if Buhari appoints the majority in his cabinet?

Majority with 10 million almajiris, abi?
Majority with the most backward set of Nigerians?
Majority with inflated census figures, abi?
Majority with millions from Chad and Niger, abi?
Majority but when it comes to enrolment into SSCE, JAMB, even primary 6 entrance exams, you won't see them.
You guys are a curse to Nigeria.
I spit on that religion.

jerryadigun:
Baba, use your education and influence to fight for the disintegration of this country. Perhaps we may have a system as similar to the EU commission.

Nigeria is big enough to have up to 8 countries. Moreover, there are countries in EU with population not up to the efik/ibibio tribe e.g Iceland, Finland, Croatia etc.

If you think you have a chance in this highly tribalized country, then you are the most naive politician I know.

Enough said.

P.S it's high time we started talking about the future of this country. Diversity has never helped any country.
No matter who becomes president, the country is doomed to fail under this present arrangement.

You are right.
Yugoslavia was broken into 7 countries thus: Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia (FYROM) and Kosovo. The most populous of these countries – Serbia – has only about 7 million citizens. Some even have less than a million citizens and yet they are countries. Nigeria should tow the path of Yugoslavia.

seunmsg:
I am from Okemesi Ekiti in Ekiti west local government.

It's alright.

seunmsg:
The fact that over 100 people voted for APC in Fayose's ward says a lot about how much goodwill he has lost. Results coming in so far from all parts of Ekiti is really shocking to say the least. APC is currently leading in my hometown, Okemesi Ekiti, hitherto a PDP stronghold. Fayose had really squandered the goodwill he once enjoyed.

I had to highlight your hometown just for emphasis. I hope I don't hear you insult anybody because of Lagos on this forum. You guys are fond of abusing others because of Lagos which isn't even your state of origin.

Guyman02:
Since this Igbo lady came into FFK life, he seems to have found a new strength to carry and a happier man. From being anti Igbo to becoming an advocate for Igbos and promoter of Yoruba values and opening the eyes of Yoruba youths to the expansionist schemes of a certain tribe that is terrorising some states now

Same way an Igbo lady came into the life of Davido and he started becoming responsible. There is something about Igbo women. They are builders of homes.

deomelo:
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The question is, why is PMB commissioning projects that. 16 years of PDP and obj, yaradua, Jona and the largest earnings and wealth in the history of Nigeria couldn't complete?

Funny when lazy, crooked, corrupt and incompetent people litter the country with thousands of abandoned projects and still want to claim credit when they are completed by competent, dedicated and patriotic Nigerians.


You people are just too shameless for your own good.

You really know nothing and you're not aware of it.
The ground work for the Abuja light rail and Abuja to Kaduna standard gauge started in Jonathan's tenure and was nearly completed b4 Buhari took over. Buhari simply built the stations and commissioned the project and you're hailing him. I'm not here to talk about Obj's tenure and Yaradua's. I'm focusing on Jonathan cos you folks like blaming him for all the woes of Nigeria. Even your saviour Buhari said Jonathan didn't do any project, yet he's commissioning projects Jonathan nearly completed.

Now, 2nd Niger Bridge is there. Buhari has spent 3 years and 2 months, and not even up to 10 pillars have been erected in that river for the bridge. Even if Buhari rules for another 4 years, he will still not finish that bridge at the rate he's going. Can you mention any major infrastructural project Buhari initiated which he has carried even up to half way? He promised to deliver 10000MW power in 4 years but hasn't laid the foundation for any power station. What has Buhari really done? What is he doing apart from commissioning projects almost completed by the same administration he claims didn't do anything?
Buhari is a disaster.

deomelo:
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OBJ awarded the contract, Yaradua canceled it and $250 million mobilization fee was paid in 2009, so who paid that mobilization fee? Jona traveled back in time to pay that money in 2009?


Everything Jona commissioned was awarded and paid for by OBJ and Nigerians didn't cry and wail, but not these tantrum throwing and petty ipob villagers, they think we should praise and celebrate their abandoned projects other people are finishing.

You're not smart. Go back and read the article in the link you posted. It was talking about modernization of Lagos to Kano narrow gauge. Does that sound anything like Abuja light rail or Kaduna to Abuja standard gauge?

Also, from what you posted, did Obj pay for the project? Wasn't that what you said initially? Why are you yarning dust?
Okay, Yar' Adua paid $250mn for the project, wasn't Jonathan part of the administration? Wasn't Jonathan the one who held sway from 2009 till he fully took over in 2010 when Yar' Adua died? Can you now see it was Jonathan who paid for it?

Abeg comot, you no know anything.

OgogoroFreak:
You no get sense?

Why enter school if you know you can't graduate? Why start at all, if you know you can't finish it?

I AM NOT A BUHARI OR A JONATHAN SUPPORTER BUT I BELIEVE WHO FINSHED THE JOB SHOULD GET MORE CREDIT.

Oga shut up. You know nothing. Major infrastructural projects cannot be finished in one tenure. A project like 2nd Niger bridge or the coastal rail network will span over more than 4 years irrespective of which government in Nigeria is executing it. Mambila power project is one that has defied several administrations. It's a trans-administration project.
Nigeria will not develop infrastructurally if every administration only starts projects they will finish within their tenure.

deomelo:
OBJ awarded the contract and paid for the same contract back in 2008, yaradua continued and useless and incompetent Jona rewarded and paid for the same project and couldn't even finish the same project that was started by OBJ in 2008



This is the reason why the crooked, corrupt and incompetent PDP left us zero infrastructures, this is why they saddled us with thousands of abandoned projects all over the country and this is the reason why PMB is finishing up projects left and right. but these ipobs and their PDP masters want us to applaud them for not finishing anything after 16 yers in office while PMB is finishing everything in less than 3 years.


Instead of saying we started and finished, the losers are screaming we started and we started, but never can say we finished we finished.

What a bunch of losers

Oga, abeg close your mouth. Which project did Obj pay for? In 2008? Are you for real? Was Obj the president in 2008? Before Jonathan's government, had any ground work commenced on both the Abuja - Kaduna rail and Abuja light rail?
Jonathan paid up for the project. Even Buhari can't do anything about it. It's just like Goodluck Jonathan expressway that cut across Abuja City. Jonathan paid up for the contract and that's why the work is still ongoing now. The only way Buhari can stop it is to revoke the contract.

Talking about projects completed, we remember how many power plants GEJ started and completed. We know how many universities he started and completed. We know how other past administrations set up systems to check curruption including IPPIS and TSA started by Jonathan. Tell us what Buhari has initiated.

lordtosan:
Much as I hate Buhari's administration and the man himself, I think this statement by Ben Bruce is "nationally wrong' and not good for our development. Ben Bruce must be seen as an enemy of the state.

Yes, the past government started it but the project would have been a deserted ruin if this present government had turned it's face away. The man who completes a task deserves the better share of the accolades. And that's what Buhari has done. This statement by Bruce has the potential of discouraging continuity in governance which in turn will stifle development. Lets not allow our party affiliation and political loyalty stagnate our progress.


Goalscorers covert chances created by other players to goals and take much of the glory even though they might not have been involved in the build up play. Yet their names get put in the scorer sheet and they get praised for the goals without which those created chances would have been a total waste.


Thata being said and this notwithstanding,

BUHARI MUST GO!!

The only way it could have been deserted is if Buhari CANCELLED it. Jonathan's government paid up for it. Why are you guys praising Buhari? The project was bound to be finished, even if Shekau became president, except he chose to cancel it.

OgogoroFreak:
Most of the work not all of the work. What stopped them from completing all of the work then? This albino man sef

Which project has Buhari initiated for subsequent governments to complete? Which major project has he initiated and carried up to half way?

GoTV:
Fayose should remember that what goes around comes around. Karma is already lodging in an hotel in Ekiti waiting for Saturday's election. Same thing thou did to Fayemi in 2015 elections will be done to thee this time.Forget the online rascals supporting Fayose all because of the memories of operation python dance. They are not wearing the shoes of ekiti workers so they don't know how working a year without salary pinches. Ekiti must be rescued from clownish and irresponsible system of government. The major achievements of Fayose are propaganda, criticisms of Buhari and a needless fraudulent 1km bridge. If Fayose's candidate cannot campaign and convince electorates with reasons why he deserves their vote, how does he intend to govern without fayose's interference? Ekiti state once revered for its academic prowess has been turned to a laughing stock by this fraud called Fayose. He's downfall is imminent and i celebrate in advance with the people of Ekiti for deciding to break free from Fayose's chain of political slavery

Peter Obi campaigned for Obiano. When he became the governor, he not only broke loose from Peter Obi, but became one of the most effective governors. Eleka is a Prof, so he's not a nobody.

GoTV:
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Absolute bunkum

Muslim guy, go and talk to your Imams. Stop impersonating Christianity.

laydoh:
hear yourself pls.since he is a medical doctor,how many hospital has he built?maybe he thought practising and building a hospital is a waste of time.

The money for the project is mainly donated by church members for the project in particular.
He can still build hospitals with time, but it's one step at a time. Let the convenience of the members be taken care of first.
Let's not forget that it is not the church's responsibility to build factories and hospitals. Politicians are given money to do those societal things. Church members pay money for the church buildings, and they are happy about that.

GoTV:
Christian criminals. Why must everything be church, church, church Why can't we build the world's biggest hospitals? How about building world's biggest factories? Everything must be about religion because we live in a crazy part of the world where people are afraid to use their brains but will rather hope on a sky daddy to come down from heaven and help them. No wonder pulpit criminals called pastors and bishops are investing heavily in building more churches. The higher the buildings, the higher the income generated. God no kukuma get bank account but all church money is said to belong to God. Religious fraud is becoming a norm in the society yet our dumb govt will rather ignore than regulate the Nonsense

Why will Enenche build the largest hospital? Is he a practising medical doctor? Why will he build factories? Will they survive? P&G is closing down it's plants in Nigeria, and you're shouting factories, factories.

Why is he building that kind of auditorium? That's what you should try and find out. Presently, the church runs 5 services every Sunday, and their auditorium which sits nearly 10000 people is overcrowded in each of the services. He needs a bigger auditorium to accommodate the congregants in one roof.
Is it his fault that his church is growing? The man has the word of truth in his mouth and people are going to receive. He didn't cajole people to join his church.

Mind you that Dr Enenche is a medical doctor. He got called into the ministry even as a medical student. In his final year, he was the national president of Nigerian Conference of Christian Medical and Dental Students, in 1991 or so. If he had stuck to medical practice, he would have been a professor of medicine by now. He didn't become a pastor for money. Medicine could feed him.

bettercreature:
Its impossible! Winner of this game will play France so one of them must go home

He meant that whoever wins between France and Belgium will win d World Cup.

Fahrenhite:
You have a point in the " crown of thorns" part. but i assure you the meme wasn't intended to mock Jesus, it was intended to express my reaction on reading the post. Either way, i think you have successfully convince me to the fact that the man portrayed to be crucified with thorns in his heads in the pics or any other pics is a representation of the story of Jesus christ. Well done.

That was a mature response. Thank God there are still sensible and reasonable people on Nairaland. Keep it up.

Fahrenhite:
Jesus is not the only person to be hung in the cross nether is the cross in the pics the cross of Christ.

I don't know of any other person that was hanged on the cross, who wore a crown of thorns. There is no such record in history. Moreover, the meme was made with Jesus in mind. That's even what matters more cos God searches the mind.

1Sharon:
How about this?

Suit yourself

Fahrenhite:
Excuse me first, is it your ancestors that tell you it is Jesus photo? So if Jet li acted passion of the christ part 2 you will say jet li is Jesus?

I can no longer shake my head for people like you.

It's about making a mockery of the Cross of Christ. Forget about whose pic is used.

EternalTruths:
We will apply the German Solution.


All Muslims in the North, Vamut to Far North and all Christians in the Far North, Vamut to the Middle Belt.


Since Fulani people don't want to respect themselves, that is the solution we will apply.

Loool. Impossicant!

ashjay001:
Count everyone of them n their perceived supporters.

Remove that number from 15m.

Use ur brain n arrive at an objective conclusion.


I tot u were'll masturbating over d APC Congress, then nPDP, now, it's rebels, who can't get d party ticket, but want to be at d NASS, at all cost


The same way, APC, surprised us all in 2015, they will do a repeat in 2019!

By this time in 2014, there was a lot of aggression against Jonathan. That was how Buhari got his 15m votes. Do you know the direction of the aggression today?
If you're subtracting from the 15m, remember that the whole Benue, Plateau and Taraba has to be removed.

EternalTruths:
If the Northern Christians join Biafra, the North will be split in a way to accommodate other Christian ethnic groups in the far North while Muslim groups in the Middle Belt will be pushed out to the far North.


Time has come to erect barriers to separate Christians & Muslims in the name of peace.

The issue is that they are scattered in different communities in different northern states. Even in those communities, they still have Muslims and Christians living together in some families. How can you separate them? Imagine trying to separate Yorubas along religious lines.

damickey:
make them give us 5 players in exchange

If they will give Messi and Suarez in exchange, then they can take him.