₦airaland Forum

9jatriot:
When candidates who are expected to contest the PDP presidential candidates are mentioned, only the likes of Atiku, Kwankwanso, Tambuwa and Saraki come up.

Yet, Ayo Fayose has never missed any opportunity before now to tell anyone who cares to listen that he would be contesting for the presidential election in 2019. He has even boasted on more than one occasion that he would be replacing President Buhari. On all of these occasions he was ignored by the media team of APC.

In an attempt to achieve his aim, he tried to hijack the PDP in connivance with Wike by installing Sheriff who turned out to be a bone in the neck.

Since he lost the gubernatorial election in Ekiti State where he was effectively the candidate as against the real candidate, his party the PDP seems to have completely ignored him. PDP is now more preoccupied with courting the likes of Saraki, Tambuwa and Kwankwanso these days, leaving the man who took it upon himself to continually insult Buhari to stand on his own.

He has become so irrelevant that even when Wike went to convince Saraki to join PDP, Fayose was not invited.

Power truly is transient, even the wise struggle to use it properly. It's worse for the unwise.

But I thought PDP zoned the position to the North? Why should he have been taken serious?

Nogodye:
Many politician will retire in 2019 as far as politics is concern.Let see how it unfold...PMB till 2023

Forget about all those retirement crap you guys keep regurgitating. Buhari lost in 2003, 2007 and 2011 and even retired, yet he came back to win in 2015. Even if they lose next year, it will be a different ball game in 2023. Hope you remember there won't be any chanting of Sai Baba by that time.

frowland:
Accidents happen everywhere mate.. In China it's like every 5 minutes. In UK, it's there as well.

WHO：260,000 die in China as a result of road accidents. Approximately 260,000 people die in China as a result of road accidents each year and around 6 in 10 of the total estimated deaths are vulnerable road users such as pedestrians, cyclists, and people on motorcycles, according to the latest WHO estimates.

Oga, many of these accidents in Nigeria are very preventable. The truth is that there are many careless drivers on d roads, and there aren't much consequences of traffic offences. Many commercial drivers drink before setting out and there isn't any check. Dangote truck drivers are the worst. Most of them are not fit to drive in developed countries.
I don't know about China, but such accidents like this one are very uncommon in the UK. It's actually very hard for such an accident that will claim lives like this to happen on UK roads.

Alexis11:
Na twitter be dis one constituency.

Trump nko?

babyfaceafrica:
but this is unfair to people who have been gunning for this post in the state...people can't just defect and get positions like that......they are not encouraging loyalty

The NEC said they will have equal chance. Let the delegates be the ones to decide that the decampees don't deserve the ticket. If NEC provides a level playing ground for all of them, nobody will feel cheated at the end. Those who will end up losing the ticket will then be willing to mobilize all they have to support the candidature of winner. Remember that without these decampees, PDP stands no chance of winning at all.
But deep down in my heart, I know it will be difficult for any of them to win Buhari. A major upset beyond what has happened already needs to happen in APC for the candidate of PDP to stand a chance.

otuekong1:
yhu think so, hmm another suicide bomber in waiting

Nah! Most Saudi's aren't Islamic fundamentalists like our northern brothers. Even though they have strict Islamic laws, some of them still flex in secret

otuekong1:
Nigerian Footballers Needs lot of mentoring, how can a player of musa standard move to saudi arabia,wrong move n d mumu rohr go still invite am,money is not everything he should consider life of his wife n kids

He's a Muslim, and Saudi Arabia will give him the opportunity to raise a pure Islamic family while making his money. Win win for him.

apolonius:
They have always come out for Buhari this way since 2002 that he joined politics. It is the same everywhere in the north.

Go and look at his performances in Bauchi and other states in the north since 2003.

Truth is that nobody can defeat this guy unless he dies or withdraws due to health challenges.

Go and check the number of votes he polled in 2007 when he contested against Yar'Adua and get back to me.

Humchi:
that's my point.

Removing buhari from that office is my primary goal. I understand removing him we need a strong candidate for that because an average northerner would still vote for buhari even if buhari has reduce this country to zero level...

If everyone has the same school of thought as mine, buhari would still be kicked out.

But hell no, even during this kind plight been on us, people will still give buhari millions of votes. I believe that is why the system is like this and why you are talking so.

Okay, I get you. I agree with you 100%. It's a sorry state Nigerians have found themselves in.

Humchi:
doing this, it is honourable considering the fate of the mass.

Would your decision help the mass or worsen their plights?

Having Buhari remain in power will worsen the state of the masses especially the poor and ordinary people of the Middle Belt and the other Christian minorities in the North. You can disagree with me, but Buhari doesn't genuinely care for the masses except the Fulanis.

Humchi:
i am not saying buhari has done something worth commendable.

My point is why should we let people who have done alot of damages and are being hypocrites rule us again by going under another group?

Don't you think the presence of these hypocrites would deter the true focus of let me say pdp?

But that is the only way Buhari stands a chance of losing. Without these decampees, Buhari will definitely win again. Even with them, it's still not certain that Buhari will lose.
I will rather have them back in PDP and give Buhari a run for his money, than for him to win the next election on a platter of gold.

Tolexander:
*yinmu*

These politicians think they are playing on our intelligence.

Which country are they fighting for?
They are all fighting for there personal interest.

You're right, I don't trust those PDP guys, sincerely speaking. However, they just have to succeed, at least to restore Nigeria's democracy. It will be a disaster to have Buhari for another 4 years from next year. If APC is ready for real democracy in the future, they can be voted back (if PDP fails again).

idealogical:
Poor Ekwerenmadu/SE got shoved to the side again. When it's all said and done, I see the SE ending up with nothing as usual.

They are celebrating and applauding, but their own region, brother and son of the soil just lost a valuable position.

Oga, you have no point. Under Jonathan, who was the highest ranking SE person in PDP? Yet the Igbos were supporting the party. To us, it isn't about position really. It's about being carried along. That s why most Igbos don't care about presidency, cos even the regions that have had it the most cannot match up the South East in all indices of development.
Ekweremadu cannot remain the leader when the Senate President is in PDP now. It has nothing to do with being Igbo.

Butterflyle0:
Dasuki staying in detention is due to your very corrupt judiciary.

The man is as guilty as sin.

All those he gave monies to have all confessed to it.

Even he confessed to it but said Jonathan was the one who instructed him.

Based on the above why would he even be bailed?

If this was China by now he would be dead. Zero tolerance for corruption there but here we eulogize them and even encourage the judiciary to contravene damning evidence.

It's alright. The shame will be that of Buhari if after keeping Dasuki all these while, the man ends up going free. He has engaged in a fight he will never win. I feel sorry for him.

Let me also remind you that whenever his tenure comes to an end, the files of all his accomplices would be opened. What is good for the goose...

And talking about corruption, has corrupt Buhari told us how much of our commonwealth he used to treat himself in London for over 3 months last year? So much stealing going on in NNPC, yet he's d petroleum minister. Don't worry, shebi his tenure will end someday. His corrupt practices will equally be made open.

Butterflyle0:
Is BUHARI your corrupt judiciary?

If he interferes you will still call him a tyrant if he refused to interfere you will call him slow

So Dasuki should be detained for the rest of his life?

You see why you cannot build a government around one man. Now the judiciary has proven to you that "one man mopol" cannot work in a democracy. So what is Buhari going to do next? If Dasuki remains in detention all through Buhari's government, the next government will definitely free him.

Buhari is this and that, so what happens when his tenure ends? What policies and structures has he put in place to ensure that a strong and sustainable system is maintained even after his tenure (whether 2019 or 2023)?

[quote author= post=69925450]Arguably the most high-profile detainee is Sambo Dasuki, once a security adviser to Buhari’s predecessor Goodluck Jonathan. Charged with offenses related to money laundering and diverting money supposed to be used to buy arms to fight Islamist militant group Boko Haram, Dasuki has been held for three years as bail orders, including from an Economic Community of West African States court, have been ignored.

You even said high profile-detainee.
Anybody that wants this cruel rogue released without the country knowing the main root of the matter is nothing but a fellow rogue and devil.
A man who hundreds of soldiers died on the battlefield because the money for artilleries was shared to some thieves.
A man that was sharing money like father Christmas.
A man who whispered on whose order he was sharing the cake but the man that gave the order denied.
A man that lots of people who collected this billions of dollars named him as the facilitators....and You want him released?
There was a nation!

The sane ones here can read this....

1. I acted based on Jonathan's instruction - Dasuki

2. I didn't give order - Jonathan

3. I collected 350M from Dasuki for consultation - Iyorchia Ayu

4. I only collected $30,000 from Dasuki not N100m - Bode George

5. I got N4.6b from Dasuki for spiritual purposes - Bafarawa

6. I got N650M from Dasuki for my Abuja burnt office - Thisday Obaigbena.

7. I got N2.1b from Dasuki for publicity - Dokpesi

8. I got another N100m from Yuguda he didn't tell me from where - Bafarawa.

9. I gave N100m each to Odili, Jim Nwobodo Bode George and others - Yuguda

10. The president asked me to change N10B to foreign currency for PDP delegates - Dasuki

11. My boss asked me to get $11M from the CBN - Dasuki's account officer.

12. I got order from above to pay Tompolo N13B for Maritime university land. - Nimasa DG.

13. 950m was shared in my house -- Shekarau

With all this looting and many more revealed, some people are still shouting no sign of change yet, they even say it's political persecution.
But we believe, it is the right thing to do. 
If you believe too, send this to other people to garner more support for the fight against corruption and looting in our nation. There must be consequences for such crimes otherwise Nigeria will not develop.[/quote]Okay, Dasuki is that bad yet the government cannot conclude his arraignment and get him sentenced at once? So Buhari needs more than a tenure to conclude a case of embezzlement? What if he loses the next election? Is he then going to ensure Dasuki gets sentenced from Daura?

Humchi:
not that i am on the receiving end.

I have never supported apc.

It is just the way i am seeing what is going on.

I can't cast my vote for pdp because they are the same people from apc.

It is just like a a man on different uniform at different time.

All the past PDP governments set up structures, institutions, initiated policies and programmes to enhance nation building.
Even in his 5 year reign, Jonathan initiated IPPIS (which eliminated a lot of ghost workers), TSA (which reduced embezzlement in the public sector), PVC (which improved the quality of our elections) etc.
Ask yourself, what has Buhari and APC done in almost 4 years? People keep saying Buhari is not corrupt. Let us even assume that is true. Then, is government built around one person? So after his tenure, what next? Back to square 1?

Butterflyleo:
Why not go and get a job in First bank and while in first bank go ahead and be promoting Zenith bank and know if you would still retain your job when found out.

You are asking if it is a valid reason. Mtcheew

Does the state education board belong to a political party? Is the board meant to serve only the members of one political party?
Why compare private establishments created and meant to serve only their customers to government institutions and parastatals? Are First Bank and Zenith funded by tax payers' money? Is the education board funded with money generated by APC as a party?

Sarkin:
this is why I dislike the jobless aggressive Biafrans.
You keep chasing your tail and amounting to absurdity.
Go and reread why I firstly posted and stop being a child of hate.
You don't need to tell me what corruption is.
You that didn't know ran to dictionaries to aid you intellectually.
Corruption is broad; and I mentioned a part of what corruption is and I clarified Buhari as not being corrupt in that as he isn't corrupt in any form

You are absolutely clueless and arrogant even in your cluelessness. It's a shame!

awelekiti:
yea, I'm still correct. I only extrapolated. Anything said to be OVER means BEYOND. So, you're also right

Okay, so Nigeria has a population of over 200,000.

Well, the point is that when using 'over' to estimate figures, the closer you are to the actual figure, the better it is in terms of avoiding confusion. Some people won't even notice the 'over' and just assume it's whatever figure you wrote that is implied.
India has been over a billion for some decades now, so the least figure you should have used is 1 billion. Anything less means you never had a real idea of the country's population.

awelekiti:
you just spoke my mind. I wonder why some people would see the truth but deviate from same. Like I've always said, apc or pdp, they're same of the same but that doesn't mean we shouldn't compare the 2 and say which fared better. Especially between buhari and Jonathan. Our economy was better managed despite the huge corruption that greeted the pdp-led govt. How I wish they operated with a reasonable level of sanity that time, we've have gone far in development by now but unfortunately, they messed things up. Apc got there and worsened the situation. Nigeria is now said to be the poorest country in the world. India that's over 600 million in population is now placed ahead of us. So sad.

India is over 1.3 billion

Printerscanner:
10 million Northern voters that have been voting Buhari since 2003. 5 million imported voters from Mali, Cameroon, Niger, Chad and Benin Republic. 4 million South West voters and 2 million South East and South
South any government in power (AGIP) lovers who cannot live without government money hence they cannot be in opposition. 2019 is going to be interesting.

Go and confirm how many votes Buhari polled in 2007 when he contested against Yar'Adua a fellow northerner, and get back to me.

Unblockable:
When these decampees finally sink the PDP after the Presidential Primaries, those wailers would start blaming Buhari, Tinubu and APC as usual.

As it stands now, Ike Ekweremadu would support Saraki for the PDP's ticket hoping to be rewarded with the running mate slot. In the same vein, Wike would support Tambuwal during the primaries hoping the he would be made his running mate after he wins the ticket. Likewise Fayose, who would support Atiku hoping to get the running mate ticket. Hope you guys have seen where the problem lies?

You guys would expect Wike to waste his (Rivers State) money on a Saraki/Ekweremadu joint ticket IF Tambuwal loses the primaries right? Or Ekweremadu mobilizing the Southeast voters for Tambuwal after he must have felt shortchanged IF Saraki loses the primaries? What about "the Oga kpatakpata of them all" Atiku? He should waste his money on a PDP candidate other than him? Funny peeps.

I've not even mentioned the likes of Dankwambo, Makarfi and Lamido who haven't really left the PDP since it was formed. They should watch as a decampee snatches the party's ticket from them which they believe is rightly theirs? Oh. I almost forgot Kwankwaso too. Wahala!

Some differences between this year's defection and that of 2014 are:

•Most of them knew before decamping that the APC ticket belonged to Buhari.

•They weren't too ambitious then as they are now. Et al.

Now Atiku is in his 70's and would be 75 in 2023 so he knows this is his last shot at the Presidency. Tambuwal knows he would lose his governorship seat should he lose the PDP Presidential ticket. Kwankwaso knows he cannot win a Senatorial reelection in Kano State if he loses the PDP Presidential Primaries. So it shall surely be a fight to finish during the PDP primaries.

Na so PDP go take explode after the primaries o...

Don't worry, that's how PDP said APC would implode after their National Convention in 2014. The ruling party then didn't believe APC leaders from the different blocs could agree and work together, but they did cos it was all about taking power from Jonathan.
In the same vein, these guys will also have to agree together just to defeat Buhari. The truth is that if they remained in APC, they had a zero chance. Now in PDP, they have some chance of being the flag bearer and the flag bearer also has some chance of winning the presidency. Even for those who never decamped and returned, they would have stood no chance without these decampings.
They will surely work together to send Buhari home, whatever it will take.

Ngasky:
This is expected
By 2019 a lot of current politicians will be permanently retired for life. This is an opportunity for the so called ideological youth to start preparing for 2023.
Buhari's second tenure is going to be very aggressive in terms of fighting corruption. Many politicians will be victims of the campaign.
By 2023 political office will be less attractive because the criminally funds will be severely cut and monitored by respective security apparatus.

Which of presidency budgets has Buhari cut since 2016? If he didn't do it in his first tenure despite that it would have been a plus to his reelection campaign, why will he do it in 2nd tenure?

cana882:
RIP.. After saving the 13th person, you were already a hero, why further the risk??

Now you just rendered these cute children fatherless, depriving them of the feeling of growing up having a father. . You just made this beautiful lady a widow.

He didn't do it for heroism. He just couldn't watch that last person die.

seunmsg:
Ninety five percent of the people in the pictures will still vote for Buhari come 2019. Fayose mobilized a larger crowd than this for Eleka's final rally and still lost the election woefully. Trust me, Tambuwal is finished politically.

95% indeed. Even in 2015 when Buhari contested against a Christian Southerner that was hated in the north, he didn't pull 90% of Sokoto votes.
Fayose's candidate lost only marginally, and you and I know it's partly because it wasn't Fayose himself that was contesting. Fayemi on the other hand is a former governor, yet his win was only marginal.
Even if Buhari wins in Sokoto, his margin of win will be very narrow. That's what we want.

westerk:
These are men with no single ideology or philosophy same as saraki only after their selfish political ambitions. Men with no sense of shame or purpose running back to the same party they helped pull down in 2015. Don't be surprised if you see all of them returning back to apc in 2023. To think that any right thinking youth still supports these kind of politicians makes me shudder. I would rather vote of those PDP politicians that stood with the party through thick and thin not these prostitutes.

As long as the tyrant in power will be incapacitated, it's alright.

diegwu02:
Anambra votes for PDP indeed, The PDP just mass out votes for themselves in those states during the woeful elections in 2003, 2007 and 2011 even partly in 2015 scoring over 1.8 million votes in states where truly registered votes were less than 800,000 and popular governorship elections recorded less than 500k voters. Partly in 2015 because of the ficticious 2 million votes GEJ scored in Rivers even with all the massive violence and voter apathy recorded, same happened in Delta State. You should also know the RECs in those states are currently being prosecuted after huge sums where recovered from this families and friends after the elections.. The era of PDP rigging elections is gone, the era of the PVC and online voters accreditation is here ..and please you need to read more and follow more the event of the APC in the South south states i mentioned

Oh,the same way votes were inflated in Rivers is the same way it happened in Kano and many other northern states. Now that Buhari will contest against a fellow northerner, let's see Kano votes inflated again for him.
South Eastern voters were technically disenfranchised in 2015, and that accounted for the poor turn out in Anambra. Remember that Anambra is one of the 10 most populous states, so when you say Anambra has 800k registered voters, I wonder where you got that from.
Anyway, don't be in a hurry, okay. Let the recent trend of political realignment across both parties die out, then we can see how things truly stand. Even Buhari is jittery now yet you sound as if nothing has happened.

diegwu02:
And exactly what's happening in the South East and South South gives you this confidence, i will really like to know cuz if you ask me, his popularity in Delta, Akwa Ibom, Ebonyi, Enugu and Cross river is sky rocketing if you really folllow events. Edo can never go to PDP with Oshiobaba and Obaseki there... Meanwhile Kwankwaso who performed woefully in the senate cant even freely move in his state and has been absent for almost 2 years after he lost all his support to Ganduje

Looking at the point in bold, I can only

No wahala, we will watch and see.

diegwu02:
Where was Shekarau when PDP gave GEJ only 100k votes in 2015 out of 2.5 milllion ..You will be surprised, Kwankwaso has lost his grasp in Kano and can hardly even return to Senate .... mind you APC was 2nd in Anambra governprship Votes well ahead of PDP, Delta and Akwa Ibom and gradually losing grip to the APC, Edo will easily be delivered, Ayade is PMB right hand man hoping to switch allegiance soon, PMB would secure his 30% easily in Ebonyi. Nnamani, Sullivan, Nwobodo and others will give APC a huge boost in Enugu

Oga, you can't compare Buhari's outing in 2015 and what will happen next year. In 2015,he was seen as the one with the magic wand that would restore hope to Nigeria. People actually believed he would make $1=₦1, reduce petrol price to ₦40, pay youth 5k monthly, create millions of jobs, totally annihilate Boko Haram, increase power generation to 20000MW and so on. Those were the premise on which he was voted. Today, he has proven himself as not having the capacity to lead an ethnically diverse nation like Nigeria. Some Northerners especially almajiris still support him but most sane southerners won't vote for him.

See, you can't judge how south east and south south will respond to Buhari with the voting pattern of their states. PDP came third in Anambra cos their candidate didn't stand a chance, and most anti-APC voters voted for APGA. Hope you know that Anambrarians often vote for APGA in local elections and PDP at presidential election. At the national level, it's APC and PDP, but at the state level, PDP votes are shared between APGA and PDP with APGA taking the bulk.

Jonathan lost massively in Kano because he was a southerner, and it was ideally supposed to be the turn of the North to rule. You don't expect him to have garnered any reasonable amount of votes. Buhari on the other hand will contest with a fellow northerner.
Remember that in 2003 and 2011 when Buhari contested against southerners, he got over 12 million votes. In 2007 when contested against a fellow Northerner, he got only over 6 million votes.
You will be clearly deceiving yourself to think Buhari will get any reasonable amount of votes in Delta, Cross River and Enugu etc.

oyb:
Igbos loved yardua

Please spare us. Between you and northerners I do not know who is more ethnocentric. Are you not the same ones posting Yoruba Muslim, fulani slave everyday?

Well, saying 'loved' may simply be taking it too far, but Igbos were okay with Yar'Adua. If Yar'Adua was d one in power under APC, there wouldn't have been much agitation.
See, Buhari had the opportunity of winning the South East and South South to himself and crushing PDP forever. He just needed to treat all Nigerians equally, and PDP would never have had hope again.
Some of us even though openly supported PDP, wished for a change from PDP. I personally was tired of PDP. I wanted a decent government that will turn Nigeria around. That hope was still alive until APC fielded Buhari. Imagine that it was someone with Tambuwal's mentality that is ruling Nigeria under APC, PDP would have been worse off now.
Buhari messed everything up. He did.

Igbos are not ethnocentric. We may still have some paranoia as a result of the effect of the civil war, but we are not ethnocentric. An ethnocentric man won't go to another man's land and make the kind of investments he hasn't made in his own land. Only Igbos do that in Nigeria. It's only Igbos that take anywhere they find themselves in Nigeria as home. A Yoruba or Hausa man cannot do that. Igbos are the only ones actually practising One Nigeria, yet they are the ones most marginalised.

diegwu02:
Fact is, It wouldnt.
The major impact might be in Kwara where Saraki holds a firm grip on the People but then, PMB would get more than his required 25% easily

With Kwankwaso and Shekarau in PDP, can Buhari still get 2 million votes in Kano?
You see, the issue is not so much about winning the Northern states. It's about the margin of win. Buhari's margin of win in the North West and North East will be very narrow in 2019, but his margin of loss in the South South and South East will be much wider. Also, he will most likely lose in most of the states in the South West and North Central.

In all, Buhari is going to struggle in 2019. He's more likely to lose, except he rigs the election.