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Abagworo: Here's a public or corporate complex in VI. I would love to see a full stretch 2 to 10km of road dotted with strictly this kind of building in any of our Southeastern cities. We have the money to do it.

VI will be like that because the headquarters of many corporate offices are there.
Move away from Lagos, abuja and maybe port that host headquarter buildings, how many other places have 8-10km stretch of roads dotted with similar buildings?
U can't expect SEners to build these just for residence, do u?
That will increase the Cost of living.
sb correct me if am missing somrthing

all4naija, if u are not posting Yoruba village houses, leave this thread

SLIDE waxie: if the average yoruba man acts like a mad man but works as a chief electrician to google and an average ibo man beats his cheat to won the whole country but seats in his 2ft by 2ft shop in lagos singing for sales or selling chips and yogurt on the highway, what does that tell u abt the fake living standard of both of them?

One of them is definitely a joker

*this is a joke too*

And who told u igbos do not hold such positions in the world even more than yorubas .
how many yorubas are of international recognition?
none.
so what are y saying?
u are so Lazy and poor that those touts in ur land can't sell simple snacks or open 2 by 2 shops.
Aside ur state civil service, does it mean u can't do anything?

[quote author=Chima_Agbalajob]Prof Charles Soludo once raised this critical issue during a South East development Initiative forum. Why is it that any young Anambra or Igbo person of repute that has achieved anything in life has homes in Abuja,Lagos and elsewhere without any in Anambra and the SE? Why is it that there are no standard cities in the SE,that would attract a foreign investor to live in say Aba or Onitsha,instead of Lagos or Kano?

Eventually, that fora determined that part of the problem was the absence of quality residential estates such as Asokoro district estates in Abuja or Victoria garden city,Lekki or banana island of Lagos going on anywhere in most of the SE states.Most of our housing estates are still hyper focussed on mass housing schemes for the poor and civil servants(which is also a good thing), but with none created to cater for the needs of the rich and notable people in the society (Which is also very important to have such areas).Thus these already Igbos are unable to maintain their standard of living anywhere in the SE, thus opt to live in such estates provided in Lagos or Abuja.

The Enugu State government under Sullivan Chime promptly launched the zoo estate and the Independence L/O phase II a.k.a the Enugu centenary city less than 6 months afterwards.Being fair to Rochas, he too tried to launch the "New Owerri" initiative to build a totally modern city around the Imo concorde hotel area.The Ebonyi state government started the "Ochudo city" as a nucleus to create a modern city out of an area of Abakaliki.

The other critical states such as Abia and Anambra as usual, did not launch any new city initiative, until very recently that the greenwood estate Awka have been pondered. However, development of a modern "Anam city project", "GRA phase 2 in the Akpaka forest reserve, around Onitsha have remained nothing but a pipe dream because of lack of government support to put in basic infrastructure to enable such cities takeoff.I support Gov. Peter Obi because he has been visionary in Education,Health and economic sectors, but in Housing? ,Please nobody should start politicizing my observation by mentioning Ngozika,AHOCOL and Udoka housing estate here, which we know who started them.When it became obvious that such estates are full (as they have been for years now), government must open up new estates immediately so that people can continue to build and invest in Anambra, and not wait for 6 or 7 long years before they discover that a new estate is indeed needed.There is simply non-existent modern housing projects for Aba city in Abia state.

If you go to Asaba today, all the areas around the new airport is being developed into an ultra modern city all the way from Asaba to Ogwashi-ukwu by Anambra bourgeoisie looking for a decent place to live! The same situation happens in the outskirts of PH,where many Aba based wealthy men are building themselves decent homes.The biggest problem with states like Anambra and Abia is that since private individuals build multiple storey mass housing unit, the government of those states have completely forgoten that it is their duty to ensure the provision of decent housing units of every cadre in a well planned estate. I don't want to mention Lagos nor Abuja in how government must assist the private sector to provide decent housing. So i will use Kano as another example.The kwankwasiyya city promoted by the Kano state government to provide a decent living area for investors and employers of labour are the types of projects Anambra and Abia state governments believe isn't their concern, which unfortunately they must learn from. With the dearth of such estate in those critical states, it is nearly impossible for a business man living in Abuja or Lagos or even abroad to quickly and easily take his business to those states without first looking for land because he simply cannot find any decent estates where he could buy choice property to live and operate his business. Thus, most businesses you see in the SE are owned by people living outside the region. The young generation have come to learn this practice that you must live outside SE cities unless you are a petty trader and only finally move to your village upon retirement.[/quote]they must be deceiving themselves thinking there are no standard cities and. estates in the east.
the estates in the Enugu for eg are not in any way meant for the poor!
Is it golf, liberty,zoo, loma Linda.?
they have not said their reasons for their low investments.
Thank God. the bulk of igbos don't think like most of those self serving politicians if not, Onitsha, nnewi and Aba. wouldn't have hosted the level of investments from igbos of the non political class.
all those places needed just roads the type they have in Enugu and town planning. and the rest of the job could be left for individuals to handle .
Simple .

[quote author=biafrandream][/quote]I think those pics were taken when there was less traffic.
I saw ogui road/ stadium in the pics and I tell u its a very busy place.

I saw otigba junction and I tell u, if u find urself there by 7:30 in the morn, then u will be very late for work.the traffic jam there is too much.
Moreover, in Enugu esp around independence layout, GRA, trans ekulu, u might not see much traffic in these abodes and their breath taking roads because they are not planned for heavy traffic.
If I post pics of garriki, awkwunanaw, agbani road, ogui n otigba jxns, abakpa, ogbette, u will start begging for traffic reduction instantly.

musiwa is one Yoruba that tells the truth albeit incoherently.
The rest of the yorubas deceive themselves doing tinubu's biddings

berem: Misleading headline just to cause an ethnic slur. Smh

can u imagine

agbameta: How ignorant and dullard of you to think we are ashamed of our past and historical advancement?

When you post such pictures, you just highlight our advancement and great sense of preservation which we are very very happy to claim.


Funny enough when we built those, you people domiciled in caves and huts and this is what you expose every time you post that pic...


The joke is always on you jokers...

No sir.
The joke is rather on u.
For the fact that easterners started building cities rather late but the finest cities in the south are in both SE and SS.

And u built slums.
Ur wealth distribution is Like what u have in societies with few elites and populous destitutes.
How many fasholas, politicians and oil thief live in those slums?
Where is the evidence of the heritage?
Y is omo onile, and govt sponsored toutship growing strength to strength in Yoruba land?
So much for progressive govt!

[quote author=madam_oringo]Your comment is an example is where this no let up for Ibos in Nigeria, even when they have been beaten down! Which slums are in Ibadan that there are no WORSE in Iboland? If you show pictures of ancient buildings, guess what? We are SO PROUD OF IT! It shows you when we say that Yorubaland was civilized and already building habitable structures since the 1400s (as far as contemporary history has recorded), we are not bluffing. Those buildings were built at least in the 1600s - 1700s, maybe some 1800s. Can you show me any houses in Iboland built in the 1600s? No, because at that time Ibos still lived on trees, eating leaves and themselves for food. FACT! (Please let no useless person tell me nonsense about this pungent issue)[/quote]hahahaha.
my friend, they don't build cement houses in the 1600s in Nigeria.
Don't cover the ineptitude of your govt who has poor wealth distribution abilities.
They loot ur resources to build better houses and they leave u in the slums.
This is supposes to be ur regional capital city and its just slums everywhere, riddled with poverty.
If those buildings were built in 1600, show me the ones built in the modern era or are u just stuck in the 1600 civilization.
No Yoruba I have met in real life is proud of Ibadan esp.
So, what exactly did u spend decades to build?
Are Zaria, Kaduna, kano, Lagos, Benin not ancient cities?
Come off that ur poverty driven post biko,
... Ibadan is the largest slum in west Africa, the largest slums in Lagos are inhabited by yorubas too.

[quote author=OPC.NAIRALAND]Its pathetic to see what has happened to this community. Do the children have to cross this bridge to get to school or market?

A part of this bridge story is sad, plenty of it is amusing and the rest is just plain ignorance.

To my Ibo brothers, please, please, stop branding yourself industrious; you are not. Follow this link and see what industry is about.



This is what Yorubas have done for over 40yrs, they dont wait for useless govt. What you see in this linked story, this is industry! This is the story all over Yorubaland where such bridges exist for commuter transit.

This bridge in Mr Mpuke's village has brought out some hard lessons.

1. When you hear that bridges are tolled in Yorubaland, now you know why; respect it!

2. If the bridge was tolled, the danger of the cement truck weight would have been spotted and he would be diverted elsewhere.

3. A percentage of the toll goes towards repair and upgrade as well salary for the operations staff. This is called self-funded project. Tolling the bridge also create reserves from which the community can draw for small scale self-development and not be totally dependent on LG money. This revenue self-generation is what we call IGR, a popular concept in West.

4. How does Mr Mkupe know who is entering their communities? The toll point also serve as a sentry post for sharing information and collecting news about other nearby communities as well strangers in transit.

To wrap up, we have people in Yorubaland that are specialized in this venture and would be more than happy to serve as consultants and get this village started on a proper footing; and by extension teach Iboland how to be industrious. [/quote]We are talking of building brand new bridges, u are talking about towing a dilapidated one.
Which if ur states have been developed from bridge money.
Definitely not ur regional capital,Ibadan which is the biggest slum in WA.
Who knows how ur interior villages look like.

TribalEAST: Isi ewu governers are lazy

and this is ur regional capital. The product of the handiwork of Yoruba leaders.

all4naija: Maybe! As most of you said they are wealthy people who can afford expensive things! I still think there are more mud houses in Igbo villages than brick's.


Thank you.

Its even worse in SW and north.
Even the brick houses in Yoruba villages are pathetic

eaglechild: pls those handling the construction of college road and environs should speed up the project.
I passed thru there and the place is a dusty mess, the houses there are coated with dust.
The road was scraped and abandoned, the residents are crying in pain.
Went to photocopy something there and the owner of the business has been coughing from the past few months.

Can someone explain why the project has been abandoned?

That's how our side was before it got constructed.
if u wear white then, u are on ur own

Afam4eva: I was right afterall

Right how?
u shd have written it in Igbo because ur write up was wrong and it will only be used against u in mere tribal lashing, nothing else.
.
U can't be washed by fake media hyping from opposition states and use it as a standard; i mean projects on paper.
do u think if Akwa ibom with its global transformation were in SW, we go hear word for here?
But where are akwaibom peeps to showcase akwa ibom? Am sure its other easterners that create threads for them.
Where are Ebonyi ppl to showcase the devtal projects in their hinterlands with advancement in agriculture esp rice prod?
If not that Enugu thread was created by. spyder for non political reasons o, do u think Enugu would have been rated high by non igbos that don't travel?
.
Now venture into your supposedly doing-well states and u wl cry .
Thats y i saw your thread and got tired.
I want to know ur definition of devt and the last tym u visited SE including the cities u have gone to.

all4naija: I am patiently waiting to see the beautiful pictures. I mean Arial-view images that can be supported with facts. Not the bogus single-house owned by a wealthy Igbo person in a secluded area.

Thank you.

Many Igbo ppl are wealthy and have fine houses.
let's make it more fun, post the ones in ur village while we post ours, at Xmas .
deal?

Y are some ppl here hailing chime?

Afam4eva: Not really. I've just decided to start telling the truth. The truth may hurt but it's a catalyst for change. We shouldn't keep deluding ourselves that everything is alright when it's actually not. The only reason why some people won't want me to make such assertions is the fact that the enemies will use it as a tool. Everybody wants their supposed foes to see them as being superior in some sense. I wish there was a way i could pour out those assertions of mine in an Igbo only meeting because they're the raw truth. It's just that our people have refused to accept it.

There is no truth in that thread of yours.
I chogodiri ide udi ihe ahu, idee ya na Igbo.

Afam4eva: Does that make them the best? Do you even know what that means? Don't other group have positives as well. Some of you just come here to make daft statements.

did she in any way say others don't have positive sides?

wellmax: That's why I love my Great Ife! No sale of handouts at all.

If your material is relevant, give to class rep. who makes copy for whole class. And these days sef, lecturers just forward to class rep's e-mail, who then forward to the class' Yahoo group.

Same in Nnamdi Azikiwe Univ, awka and nnewi campuses.
A typical material is copied to a flash and the students collect the info from the course rep.

Oh, I get it.
I used to see that blue and white fence thing but I thought it was just some company or factory.
Thanks for the info.
.
u didn't shed more light on the pilgrimage center thingy again.

[quote author=ubomez2@yahoo.c]It is not the new terminal building. I was in Enugu for a month and passed through the airport twice. The new terminal building being built by the Chinese is on the far left of the airport and cannot be seen by the public as it is completely fenced in and unless you walk into the site itself you can see little, though work is in progress. There is also the Christian pilgrimages terminal which has reached an advanced stage up to roofing level and I am suspecting that this building is being confused as the international terminal. The remodelled airport is a vast improvement over the old one and the departure and arrival lounges are much bigger and accommodating, though there are no shops yet opened only the VIP suite. The baggage hall is much improved with seating. There is still a lot of work to be done on the airport but so far so good. cheers[/quote]Wow.
I was beginning to wonder how this one will be d intl terminal seeing that the remodelled local airport is bigger.

Please elaborate more on this pilgrimage centre thing.
And tell me directions to the airport undergoing construction.
Dat one should not be snapped since the authorities have hid it.
I snapped this one because its just bare for all to see

HappyJoe: Please post the pictures, if you have problems doing that on this forum, you could post them to your Facebook page and give us the link.

Facebook - Benzyl Penicillin.
The profile pix
took it from a very far distance

henrychubayo: Plz I have a question. You mean d new international terminal has been built already and been plastered right now and even reaching to d point of it been roofed? This sounds very interesting. I would be pleased to see the pix. Also we want it to be d exact of wat the pix we saw about the proposed terminal. PIX PLEASE.

yes it has been built up, plastered, roofing skeleton has been done.
Work is serious there

Pix can't upload, larger than 200 kb

kostadinis: I agree with you. ET should have been given a pat on the back. That said, AIIA equally needs the exposure to the wider aviation industry. And there is no better time for it than now.

My thoughts.
Stella Oduah was already processing the documents for the airlines but with this court case here and there, everything ka no godi na stand still.

I visited the airport 3 days ago, they have plastered the international terminal building, done the roofing skeleton; It remains the windows, doors and painting.
They are also doing the landscaping.