₦airaland Forum

Noneroone: Every part of Igboland umu means umu. It was just changed for political expediency.

Simple.
How can ppl tell me rumu is dialectic?

Afam4eva: The bolded is one of the major problems of Ndigbo. Why the need to always compare yourself to others to look relevant? Are the Northerners as educated and open minded than easterners? Let's learn to tell ourselves the truth cos that's the only way we can move forward.

Anyways, in the music area, Igbo content can still be seen though more work needs to be done but in the movies, it's ZERO. Nothing is hapening there as far as Igbo movies are concerned.

As for your first sentence, my comparison with hausas is not the selling point of my
argument and u know it.
Even though I know that the person I was replying was comparing Igbo to the Yoruba.
He can't stay in Lagos and make that huge conclusion.

ChinenyeN: Even if the original point was made with "classic works" (which for Igbo means books filled with stories and proverbs), it does not mean that the discussion necessarily ends there. Literature is not limited to novels and story books. Literature extends beyond storytelling and encompasses a wide variety of publication "genre". Essentially, if all Igbo has to show, in respect to literature, is storybooks, then we can be sure that it means Igbo literature is not developed.

Am not disputing that literature does not end in novels which u chose to refer as story books.
Am yet to see a novel that is not a story book

I only answered a question sb asked about the presence of classic works in Igbo, hence I didn't say Igbo literature ends in novels.

What am saying is that since u ChinenyeN has not entered any bookshop to ask for any igbo work this year, don't make any conclusion on the state of Igbo lit.

As far as am concerned, the supply for Igbo works is bigger than the demand.

Chino72: Even ordinary Ekwulobia has more banks than Orlu. What is development again? And Nnewi trounces Owerre in all indices of development and equally has more banks. The last we checked no Anambra was resident in Imo state but here in Anambra, the Imolites are resident here in Onitsha in their 100s of 1000s. So what is the concept of development again?

Enugu capital is finer than Owerri, owerri is finer than Awka but Anambra state is the most developed state in the East.
However, this is not due to Peter Obi.

achi4u: Alright.
But ppl will still criticize what is on ground presently.You shouldnt blame anyone who go about describing what is on ground presently, they have their fundamental human right to do so and by doing that those in the government house will pay attention asap.
What Anambra needs now is what is going on in Enugu ...you can call it "cosmetic surgery".

Fact!
Anambra needs it, the money is there

Chino72: Can we do a side by side assessment of Obi and Chime on these areas:

-Health sector in Enugu state and Health sector in Anambra

-Anambra Teaching Hospital and Enugu Teaching hospital

-Education in Anambra and Education in Enugu state

-Employment generation in Anambra and Employment general in Enugu state

-State-wide infrastructural development in Anambra and state-wide infrastructural development in Enugu state

Lets look at development from these perspective rather than looking at few painted and flowered roads.



Lets look at development from these perspective..

Chino, I take God beg u.
Remove that comparison BTW esut teaching hospital and dat of anambra before any other thing.

Chimaroke built Esut teaching hosp, Park lane and ESUT college of medicine, a good site to behold.
The medical college rank the highest in infrastructure nationwide this year and NUC is not coming there for the next 5 years.
Its shameful though that Sullivan didn't improve the infrastructure of the hospital at all and the salary scale of the health workers. He view the Hosp as Chimaroke' s brainchild and he is not willing to do anything for the hospital.
Sullivan alone is the fourth reason resident docs went on strike nationwide..

Anambra State Teaching Hosp on the other hand looks so substandard for a teaching Hosp .
Again peter obi is paying the worst salary scale to the state health workers in d east.
However, I also know that Peter Obi did better than Sullivan in health care and education statewide.
All the health centers in anambra even in the remote villages are being maintained and are functional
As for health and education, Sullivan got that one zero.

Meringe: As a grassroot man, i will tell you without mincing words that his popularity has gone above what it was during Ojukwu's burial.


Do you think T. A. Orji does not know why he stopped the event?


Aba residents will troop to the event just to see Rochas and the media will air it and T. A. Orji camp will be jittery.




Calculate well.

Its not about popularity.

He is going there to win souls for APC and T. A Orji doesn't want that because he knows he is an enemy to the Aba citizens.

What am saying is that Rochas is simply on a political agenda.
All SE politicians in APC are ofekes while T.A Orji is a devil in disguise.

Dreal1247: .
How do u know that it was Chime that they were praying against?
If he in any way oppressed the church, he will surely regret it. I pray he does not do that.

That one is not even a secret.
Btw, Chime abi ESG neva oppressed the church.

Afam4eva: The young listened to those songs back in the days but not today. The young these days are attracted to funkified music and you have to give them that but in Igbo.

I really find it annoying wwhen a big ethnic group as Igbos brandish the list you just brandished as a sign thaat Igbo musicians are singing in Igbo language. How popular is Dekumzy? Apart from his popular hit "I celebrate", which other one has he released that's listended to nationally? Sunny Bobo is a local Igbo musician and it's motly the older people that listen to him. What percentage of Igbo content do you find in J Martin's songs? When last did Nigga raw release a song let alone a popular one? And who is slow dog?

OK. After telling u about Igbo urban musicians, u replied that they are no longer popular.
Well, many went into Recording and Productions which give u more money but less fame.
Otherwise they were popular before.

Meanwhile,
Ndi Hausa ole na agu urban music na enwu enwu na Nigeria, ka o na ha abughi 'a large ethnic group '.

Moreover, I don't think u stay in the east. How can u say young ppl don't listen to Sunny Bobo? Is it the grandfathers that do so.

I agree with u in the area of Igbo movies. They got that one Capital zero.

Afam4eva: The young listened to those songs back in the days but not today. The young these days are attracted to funkified music and you have to give them that but in Igbo.

I really find it annoying wwhen a big ethnic group as Igbos brandish the list you just brandished as a sign thaat Igbo musicians are singing in Igbo language. How popular is Dekumzy? Apart from his popular hit "I celebrate", which other one has he released that's listended to nationally? Sunny Bobo is a local Igbo musician and it's motly the older people that listen to him. What percentage of Igbo content do you find in J Martin's songs? When last did Nigga raw release a song let alone a popular one? And who is slow dog?

OK. After telling u about Igbo urban musicians, u replied that they are no longer popular.
Well, many went into Recording and Productions which give u more money but less fame.
Ot
Ngwa rapu wanu.
Ndi Hausa ole na agu urban music na enwu enwu na Nigeria, ka o na ha abughi 'a large ethnic group '.

Moreover, I don't think u stay in the east.

Afam4eva: If you say Igbo gospel and traditional music then i'll agee with you but the world is moving forward and a lot of our people especially the young don't listen to songs like Osondi Owendi or Akanchawa. They now listen to modern Urban music and we're lacking in this area. Apart from few people like Ill Bliss, Phyno, Flavour that sing modern music in Igbo language, a lot of musicians of Igbo root don't. We have to move with the trend but still maintain the Igbo content.

Better.
But u forgot Dekumzy, Desperate Chicks, sunny bobo, J martins, Nigga Raw, Slow Dog and the unpopular ones.
Anyway, who said the young didn't listen to osondi owendi and Akanchawa when they reigned? I biakwa.

Abagworo: Whichever way you try to put it, "rumu" is a dialect variance of "umu" in Ikwerre language. Some parts still use "umu" and "omu". The "umu" they bore in the past that was later changed to "rumu" is like an Ngwa man bearing "Ifeoma" but later decided to change it to "heoma" which is the real Ngwa name without external modification.

What effected the change?

That's the question

Afam4eva: The problem in Igbo language is in the propagation through the media. There's a dearth of Igbo content in music, movies and other content and even the little that are available are not been promoted.

Ur last clause is what am talking about.
Also, I don't totally agree with u in the area of music

Babasuraju: Just so you know, My mother is from Rivers state, my father's mom is from River state too.

And do u know my own origins?

Babasuraju: De Igbonization of Port Harcourt, i have a feeling it was written by an Igbo man, so i won't waste my time.

The post above, I have a feeling its written by a non Igbo, I won't waste my time

Meringe: It happened to you and I didn't condemn it, tomorrow it will come to me and no body will condemn it.

Let's face the iSsue and condemn it in entirely.
T. A. Orji is so much afraid of Rochas Okorocha because he is very popular in Nigeria, SouthEast and even in Abia State. I was at the Enyimba Stadium during Ojukwu's burial . Rochas was the man of the moment and T. A. Orji was bullied. Aba residents didn't allow T. A. Orji to make his speech but Rochas name was on the lips of the crowd and the chant was 'Rochas , we need you for just 2weeks as Governor of Abia, we know Aba will wear a better look'.
The burial ceremony turned to a rally celebrating Rochas and Regan Ufomba immediately ceased the opportunity to walk round the stadium to cheer the crowd on the back of APGA governorship candidate.

T. A. Orji saw all these and he will not allow Rochas popularity to materialize and root well in Abia state cos it will be hurricane Abia.

This is the not the 1st time the Abia State govt will cAncel his visit to Aba, even in 2012, he was scheduled to attend welcome visit by Imo indigenes in Aba at CKC, the state govt stopped it.

That is just the truth.

Condemn it now or it will happen to you tomorrow.
Cheers!

U are talking abt Ojukwu' s burial of two years ago.
That's when Rochas was a better person.
Abia gov wouldn't have done the same thing to Peter Obi or any other SE gov.
Have u wondered y Rochas has not carried his madness to Enugu?
Everybody has a freedom of Association, quite right but there is this desperation about Rochas that is repulsive even to non partisan ppl.
He is not presenting APC well to the SE.

I also agree with the poster that said that PDP govs shd rather improve on devt strides to gain acceptance other than engaging in this kind of tussle.
If Theodore Orji had done well in Aba( the venue of the event), he wouldn't have been afraid of Rochas.
Because as it stands, anything u tell Aba ppl about politics now will be acceptable to them knowing what they went through in the hands of T.A Orji.

snika: When fashola was 'deporting' mad people to Upper Iweka he didn't know that everyone has a freedom of movement in Nigeria?

Or is it because Peter Obi was lenient enough to allow Rochas and Ngiga to insult a whole Igwe Onitsha on his ovala day.

@T. A. Orji, more gleese to your airbow biko (Prees, prees, PUN intendended before all these Nairaland teachers go use me call-off ASUU strike )

Falls from a palm tree

chidindufrank: There is no justification for what the governor of Abia did. Okorocha is free to host his event wherever he wants.The venue was hired with money and the proceeds goes to Abia State government. People would have sold water,drinks recharge card and other things that very day,but T A Orji's lack of wisdom soiled their market. T.A Orji's was first sworn in as the governor of Abia State in 2007 at the Abia govt lodge in Lagos immediately he left the prison. If Lagos State govt had stopped the swearing in ceremony,what do you think would have been the fate of T.A Orji then? Let's comdemn evil when we see one please

Forget that thing.

U don't know what Rochas is up to.
U are looking at it from an elementary point of view

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ChinenyeN: Igbo may have some literary works (novels, stories), but it lacks an academia. Igbo literature is truly not developed.

Am done with the argument. I thought the original talk was that there are no classic Igbo works.

Just know that those that did not acquaint themselves of the experience should not make statements they can't defend.
The problem is not in the academia, which in my opinion is not lacking, the problem is the fact that many igbos dont read igbo novels- they are two different tnnz.
The latter factor is the one that needs to be addressed.

Many of us saying Igbo Lit is not developed have not even read much or anything themselves and are not even aware of recent Igbo works in the market.
Ochupuru onwe ya n' Igbo asikwana na ugbo eruteghi ya.

@ Customized, are u explaining SW to me?
He he, u just posted the towns, their villages are worse.

Thank God Lagos was a capital and now cosmopolitan, if not, outsiders coming into Nig , seeing the shanties would have elevated the poverty rate of Nig to 96% .

That's y each day, they leave Yoruba lands and flock around in Lagos, playing touts and praying for another event of abandoned properties.

kostadinis: I believe your question was borne out of a genuine quest for information and not mischief, so i will answer it:

The journey does not end in Addis!

Passengers from the Akanu Ibiam International Airport Enugu catch their onward flights from Addis Ababa to their end destinations in the Far East, Europe, North and South America without having to re-check in their luggages at Addis Ababa to these destinations. Luggages are tagged to these end destinations right there at Enugu. Help spread the meassage to your family members and friends.

OK o, thanks

As far as am concerned, Peter Obi did better than Sullivan in the devt of Primary Health Care in all the LGs in Anambra.

The primary health cares in Enugu state ( except the capital) is not optimal hence even trivial cases come to the tertiary health institutions.

Peter Obi invested more in the area of education than Sullivan.

But then, peter obi should have made some small effort in beautifying Awka.

ezeagu: For me, I don't know any classic Igbo novels or novelists outside of classic children's books used for Igbo classes. Is there an Igbo-language equivalent of Achebe or Adichie? If so then I'll take back the comment.

This shows u are not into Igbo literature at all.
By Adichie/Achebe, do u mean those that have won int' l awards? How can that be, its only those that understand Igbo, that will award the writers.

Or by Achbe standards, u mean in terms of being classic?
Some of the classic Igbo novels include:

TONY UBESIE

-Ukwa ruo oge ya....o daa
- Isi Akwu Dara na ala: centered on a typical family in the biafran civil war
- Mmiri oku Eji Egbu Mbe
- Onye OMA Emeka - A phrase that is being used by every Igbo speaker today. It is Tony' s invention.
- Can't remember the rest, Tony doesn't write ' unclassic ' novels.


CHINEDU OFOMATA

- Ihe Onye Metere
- Ihe ojoo gbaa AFO
Can't remember the rest.

-Nwata bulie nna ya elu


Wait, don't tell me u didn't read these books, they are even more interesting than most English novels.
The authors use more proverbs per paragraph than Igbo writers of English literature.
Lota na ilu bu mmanu ndi igbo ji eri okwu
I mentioned these two authors because they are the most prolific.

Reading Igbo works outside the classroom is not common among the Igbo as u said but ppl like my mother and I......we believe Igbo literature is the Literature, dats y I was kujad when u said Igbo doesn't have developed literature.
Asi asi.

Eze Promoe, where are u from?

Abagworo: The parts of Igbo that are clannish seem to preserve their language more than the parts that are indifferent. Check out Abiriba or Ngwa and notice that the dialects are spoken fluently by those born and bred in USA and Japan and some of them don't even know central Igbo. Some of these Igbo dialects have words that lack in central Igbo. Take the Ngwa word "Iko" which means "concubine" and the non-existence of the word in central Igbo.

Very true.

But ikwa iko is being used in central Igbo to mean pros.titution, same as igba akuna

A part of the OP post has it that Igbo literature is not developed, but I say its not true.

Its either some ppl didn't acquaint themselves of that or they don't visit bookshops in the East

I grew up on Igbo literature.
Thanks

Babasuraju: What do u mean its an old story, look Port Harcourt is distinct on its own, stop bringing in the Igbo side as if PH doesn't have it own identity. Must it be linked with the Igbos? Abeg Igbo people, leave our port Harcourt for us ooooo

Y not prove him wrong other than beating abt the bush.

And y are yorubas masquerading as port Harcourt ppl here?

Afam4eva: I believe the whole RUMU stuff is just a dialectic difference from UMU. I don't think it was changed from the latter to the former like people would want us to believe else there will be a historical evidence to that fact.

Its no dialectic difference.

Go and read the ' De igbonization of Port Harcourt.
Its not a hidden fact that the streets of port Harcourt was renamed a after the civil war by the then Rivers state govt - which was headed by I jaws mainly.
All was done to shed off Igbo/ Biafran association so as to attract FG attention.
The ikwerres being Igbo had to deny their igboness so as to be allowed into political and economic spheres of Rivers.

Na so.
A friend of mine told me his father had to use an Ibibio name to own an oil bloc in the Rivers state.

Joavid: what do u mean?
If she had bleached her skin,people like you will still talk...
She has been dark skin from scratch and she still maintains it and people like you is still talking

smh...human beings can never be pleased.

She has a beautiful body you can only dream of so keep hating.

Relax, Genevive and Queen Nwokoye are dark skinned too but nobody can make such remarks abt their skin

okpara ugo: are they responsible for the governors I'll health? God forbid.....

that site is a very wrong one. the popular Albertina Electronics Nigeria ltd(biggest elecrronics dealer in naija)had his fence and gate demolished very close to MFM if not that the owner had taken precautions to remove his building far from the existing road, his plaza would have gone down...

They are rumored to be responsible for his illness because shortly after they started praying against Sullivan last year, the man was flown abroad.

Dat was hilarious