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RoyalRoy:
[color=#000033] is Kimoni an insomniac or just on a different time zone?

We may be compatible along some lines
*winks



#team3310 [/color]

TV01:
Kimoni,

how far? Couldn't respond earlier - normally don't visit weekends. I'll try and summarise;

of the 3 topics I can only touch on NHS;
1. Inefficiencies, possibly due to size - crazy amounts paid to locums and for outsourced services
2. Bloated middle and senior management, who as well as being costly exacerbate innefficency
3. Settlements for malpractice, negligence and ridiculous payoffs
4. Politicisation - by all parties
5. Recession & cuts.
6. Health tourism - not sure, like benefit fraud - which is only 1% of the welfare bill - I feel it's probably minor and unlike benefit fraud, feel it could be easily dealt with.

TV

TV01:
Kimoni,

to sum-up on some other points;

I am all for equality, just not blind to the facts; to wit;

1. Outcomes for actions - even if jointly taken - are not always the same - even if responsibility is.
2. There are real differences - at every level - between the sexes, and we flourish when we understand, appreciate and work to harmonise the complimentarity of our differences.
3. If a critical mass within society eschew traditional norms (particularly around marriage and morality), the consequences will be very damaging.


Single Mothers;
Society has traditionally stigmatised single mothers for obvious reasons;
1. It hinders a womans chance of learning and marrying.
2. It typically means a poorer outcome for any children
3. Not least because 60% of single parent homes are in poverty.

Stigma and shame serve useful purposes in society. Now, I am here as an advocate of marriage. I want all to marry - and marry well - including single mothers. Funnily enough, marriage is a prosperity builder - I can personally testify to that.

No gainsaying, apart form the societal cost, single-motherhood does not increase any womans eligibility. I advise women to avoid it and the things that could lead to it.

I advise men to avoid divorcees and single mothers for good reason. Divorcees is mostly scriptural, a woman is bound to her husband until he dies. Widows fine - but not black ones ! Single mums due to the obvious disadvantages and typical make-up of men.

Now I could hail single mothers, tell them they are precious, they are great, they will marry just as if they had no offspring and even that they are "hot-cakes" and spread the gospel of single-motherhood. One thing for sure, It would greatly increase the pool of cheap hits for promiscuous men - only it wouldn't increase the number and quality of marriages + it's not true.


I mentioned feminism, as unbeknown to even it's ignorant adherents, it has percolated to colour pretty much all engagements between men and women. It's why most arguments - including yours - are predicated on "equality", and in such a way as to ignore, instead of appreciate difference.

Hope your paper goes well. I expect credit 0 !


TV

ritayoung:
Am. 40week+4days and labour has refuse to start , pls house iS there anything I can do to help start it? because my doc has fixed a date to induced me which am scared of,pls mamas I nid ur advice,am also a FTM tnx

MGeey:
I'm having same and tomorrow is my EDD too. May God see us through. Amen.

samsoft00:
Not make-up alone, Naa Photoshop make-up!

coogar:
but...but we need their oyel

coogar:
labour got fractured too.
all the votes SNP got would have normally gone to the labour party but scotland formed their own national bloc. when a house is divided against itself, failure is imminent!

cococandy:
Did someone hack your account?

coogar:
the other candidates were poorer. labour should have had that victory but many brits don't trust their policy on immigration. ed miliband backstabbed his own brother to become the leader of labour, i think that might have also worked against him.

coogar:
i can confidently answer this one? witchcraft is the major problem of the teaching hospitals here



poor leadership & inadequate management.

Agree, my first point

the spending cuts of cameron & clegg put paid to BSF in 2010. conservatives & cuts are like siamese twins.

And y'all still voted for them

Obiagelli:
Please move this to the joke section

coogar:
NHS?
from my hut in ituku ozalla? i only know of our local teaching hospital here.

coogar:
brothers in arms!



he advises them to steer clear because majority of single mothers are bitter & they mostly have nothing but horrible advice for young women. their previous experience with men often beclouds their reasoning.



that was what i thought too until i found this section & i saw how single motherhood is glorified. the latent message they pass is a woman is better off without a husband & if she needs a child, she can adopt or find a spërm dönor somewhere to put her in the family way.


embracing her situation is a different thing altogether to glorifying it. simply put....single motherhood is like a driver with a busted tyre and using his spare tyre. yes, the spare tyre would serve its purpose but then it shouldn't be the ideal situation.


i also repeat, you haven't seen some comments on this section where women confidently said men are of no use at all.....as far as they are concerned, a woman on her own can raise her kids better than most happily married couples.

before you say a word, they had already mentioned ben carson or barack obama.......completely forgetting for every ben carson, there are hundreds of thousands of such kids languishing in american prisons or in a morgue!

pickabeau1:
Don't know much about the first two

NHS

Medical tourists
Exorbitant pay for administrators
Low birth rate and aging population
Economic recession

pickabeau1:
Kimoni
Are u the queen of empirical land?

coogar:
TV never stigmatises single mothers - he just puts them in check when it seems they are being glorified. we get it that there would always be marital issues that lead to separation but then it shouldn't be the ideal setting or the default. however, you see some women beating their chests & feigning happiness that single motherhood is the best option.

pickabeau1:
No wahala

How is your assignment going

If u don't mind...what's it on

pickabeau1:
Yes he is able to make himself clear
The message which is not only his but most of us's is that single motherhood is not ideal and should not be encouraged

As a single mom you are not able to command the full spectrum of desirable men but have To settle


This is against what you and your fellow femmes say up n down

That they are as if not more desirable than unmarried girls as they have shown they are fertile...

That is laughable to say the least and borders on the aburd


Is that the stigma you accuse us of doing

pickabeau1:
Now you are making things personal
I fail to see any stigma by him or anyone else

Saying the truth is now stigma?

Saying that single mom's are not better than unmarried girls is now stigma?


Why do u women hate to hear the truth...

joyousf:
thanks for responding. was wondering if no one will reply me.

Emdee590:
Please enlight me on wich one b fresh or not ? And which one dae intoxicate ?

stellx:
my dinner

coogar:
you would find out that women are mostly responsible for the stigmatisation of single mothers.

coogar:
i mean the education of wooing, not formal education o!



I for fear naa


exactly!
and this is why men are compelled to do try-outs till they are perfect at it. have you ever wondered how some guys are great conversationalists around women & some other guys are dirt-boring you want to hang up the phone after 20 seconds.....the education is the difference.


Brings us back to square one, men do try-outs, with who naa? Women! Coogar does try-out with Ngozi, them no jel, they part. TV does try-out with Ngozi, it didn't work so they part, Gbenga, Sule, Adamu, Nnamdi all take their turns with her. Eventually, Pickabeau marries Ngozi. Now who is to blame and who should be shamed? My answer - all of them



of course, men are still at risk but the degree of the damage it can cause in women is higher. besides that, men tend to notice the symptoms almost immediately as there's no hiding place in the body of the man.

a woman can harbour gonorrhoea in her body of ages and not notice. she would only know until she infects her partner. if the partner keeps mum about it.....if she gets pregnant, her baby would become blind.

coogar:
i mean the education of wooing, not formal education o!



exactly!
and this is why men are compelled to do try-outs till they are perfect at it. have you ever wondered how some guys are great conversationalists around women & some other guys are dirt-boring you want to hang up the phone after 20 seconds.....the education is the difference.



of course, men are still at risk but the degree of the damage it can cause in women is higher. besides that, men tend to notice the symptoms almost immediately as there's no hiding place in the body of the man.

a woman can harbour gonorrhoea in her body of ages and not notice. she would only know until she infects her partner. if the partner keeps mum about it.....if she gets pregnant, her baby would become blind.

Timbuktou:
What's turning the world upside down is people not knowing their place and acting out of turn.

When God judges, He'll judge according to your place and assignment.

pickabeau1:
1. why?..why would u not want to be ...your words....it is trending and 'normal' nowadays
2. Its an interesting film... first hand experience of single moms... not the crap you see being spewed around on family section about them being more desirable than spinsters
3. Google is your friend but i will help you


http://www.iiz-dvv.de/index.php?article_id=393&clang=1



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820057/

coogar:
there's no double standard anywhere.....
men need the education, women do not. before a man can confidently walk up to a woman and chat her up, there must have been several try-outs. so many rough edges until he becomes smooth & sleek with his game. a man is usually the chaser, the woman is his target.

nature designed it that way, it's not our fault!


it's a sin for both genders but the consequences are much more graver for the woman. she's the only one who can get pregnant & the one more susceptible to STDs. this is why the attention is much more focused on the woman than the man.

TV01:
Feminism and it's precepts colour how many - male and female, feminists and non-feminists - approach the issue

I honestly don't know too much about feminism. But I'll share my views on my perception of it some other day.

Please search it out for yourself. Ask specifically and I'll try and provide links.

Ok but highlighted a few already

Shame or not, stigmatised or not, there is a societal cost as the outcomes for the children are typically poorer - do you need proof of this? It's one of the ways people these days miss it. It's about the greater good, not simply individual desire and satisfaction.

Typically poorer? One of the sweeping statements. We judge single mothers like it takes one person to tango, did she impregnate herself? Where is the single father in all of this? Why is he being let off the hook? should we continue to live like this cuz that's how it has always been? I don't think so. The consequences will hit us all alike


Not empirical I hope ! The rate of transmission between the parties if either is infected. Please read again.

The rate of transmission is greater in women, I agree, not 7 times though, 2ce is more like it. But ultimately, these women sleep with men right, and so on the long run, I believe it evens out. My point is this, yeah the woman gets it faster than the man, but eventually, the man gets it also. So, on the long run, the risk becomes the same

You'd do well to search this one out. One abortion increases a womans chances of a serious pathology later in life by up to 40%. And I mean pathologies like breast cancer etc. Oral/chemical contraceptives are also dangerous as these can have dangerous side effects on some women - and for many induce unpleasant day-to-day side effects.

I need to search this

Nope. It's true widely known and ApexTitan provided a link. Women tend to embed physical/emotinal experiences and are prone to romanticising them. It doesn't bode well for hubby, especially at times things are hard, he's struggling or there is a down in the marriage. It engenders "dissatisfaction" in women.

Myth. I need empirical evidence. You tend to underestimate women a lot. I'll check the link though

I sure everyone has spotted the not so sublte shifting of responsibility onto men !
Women adopting the pathological traits of men will backfire on us all - but mostly on women.

Wrong!! Mostly on the children, and consequently, equally on the parents (man and woman)

It's mens fault in as much as they fell for the equality ruse and shed age-old traditions for odd notions like equality, freedom and autonomy.

Pray tell, why does equality bother you guys so much?? A woman wants to share your responsibilities with you and you don't like it? I surely don't understand feminism.


I never said or championed any of those things. They are natural outworkings of the male female dynamic - and hence embedded into culture.

Nothing natural about it, cultural yes but culture evolves. We need to evolve pass this already


Agreed. But a male won't have to drop out of school when he gets a woman pregnant Niether will he face the risk of childbirth, single parent stigma or l/t consequences of an abortion.

Risk of childbirth applies to every woman. Doesn't apply
A woman does not have to drop out of school cuz she is pregnant.
Single mother stigma? Back then, yes but fast becoming a thing of the past. Ask Sunbo Ajaba(hope I got the name right)


It doesn't actually sound like you read it. Otherwise it would be gospel to you . In fact, your moderation is regressive as
1. I clearly stated "both parties".
2. It's not at "some point", but when marriage is in view or a distinct possibility.



I maintain "at some point" - the best time to tell is not cast in stone. Both parties will decide on the best time to spill. One cap does not fit all in relationships/marriage


If one settles for an immature man, that doesn't in any way negate my advice.

Well, the reality of life is - there is no perfect man anywhere. If that is your man's weakness, apply wisdom.


As above. All you are doing is making excuses for non-disclosure. It is not necessarily a bad thing to discuss your intended with at least one family elder. I took something about my wife to a trusted family member/condfidante for advice.

You say one, somebody else say two, some three, some ten yet others say none. Where is the yardstick?
Bottom line, no one cap fits all in relationships/marriage

Good attempt, but you have rebutted nothing. Neither have you presented more telling arguments. !



Judge TV, defendant TV, Plaintiff TV

TV

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10552-013-0325-7
http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/new-evidence-suggests-a-link-between-abortion-and-breast-cancer/16234

coogar:
her point is - what a man can do, women should also do.......which is quite funny.