₦airaland Forum

KingSatan:
He spoke the truth in regards to the accelerated proscription of IPOB. But he was wrong for saying "BIAFRA" is the only thing that will save his kinsmen from herdsmen invasion.

We should think outside the box. The call for secesion was a viable option in the 70's but I can tell you that it is no longer viable. The world has progressed beyond sticks and stones. It's time Nigerians think outside the box.

What do you mean it's not viable? Is there any section in the south of Nigeria that cannot exist on it's own?

solidifi:
The questions are,

1. Before 2015 when Buhari assumed office as the president of Nigeria, where there fulani herdsmen in Nigeria?

Yes

2. Why are these fulani herdsmen terrorizing the whole Nigeria, most especially the southern part of Nigeria?

Because the South has something in abundance the herdsmen need which the North no longer had, green vegetation. The herdsmen are know to terrorise people who dont give them land to graze on. That's their modus operandi

3. Why is the federal government spending our money in billions of naira to take care of these herdsmen? Money that can be channeled to
infrastructure, education or health sectors.

Ehat did you expect with a Fulani tribal bigot as president?

4. Is cattle rearing the ONLY type of farming in Nigeria?

Of course not but it is the only way of life the Herdsmen know

5. Why are cattle more respected and cared for than human lives and other people's crops?

It is that way in any country controlled by Fulani such as Nigeria

6. Is it because Buhari a cattle rearer is the president of Nigeria?

Please well meaning Nigerians, how did we get ourselves into this zoo of a country, that somebody cannot get into his house in his village and sleep with his two eyes closed because of the troubles from the north.

When Lugard brought together people with different life styles in 1914 and called Nigeria. Fulani are known to dominate people wherever they go, by hook or AK47. It will only get worse under the Fulani president called Buhari

The leader of the separatist group, indigenous People of Biafra( IPOB) Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, has made a startling revelation while talking to Biafrans at a town hall meeting in New Jearsy, USA, where he stated that Boko Haram has not been officially proscribed.

Kanu said -

'Do you know that Boko Haram and Fulani Herdsmen kill thousands of people in Nigeria every year but neither of them has been proscribed?'

'But the government rushed to proscribe IPOB even though we have never killed anybody. Do you know why?'

'So that they can scare the people away from supporting us. But our support has only grown'

'Support Biafra for it is the only thing that can save you from the invading herdsmen'

Enugupikin:
why did umahi exactly didn't include SW in rejection of RUGA and yet spoke for SS which isn't his primary region...

what's actually happening that no one in the south want to align with SW

That's the old Eastern Region that are politically united to this day. Naturally, Umahi would not mention the SW

That's Nigeria, a country where being a Christian in the North can lead to your untimely death

And they wonder why Igbos want Biafra

This is in response to the story that the Enugu Police command refuted the video making rounds that Fulani herdsmen were driven out of Nenwe community by the indigenes

Nenwe is a community in Nkanu is about a 15 minute drive away from the city of Enugu in Enugu state. The people know what the herdsmen are capable of. A few years ago, Herdsmen descended on the neighbouring community of Awgu and destroyed their farmlands.

In the video, the herdsmen and their cattle can be seen moving out of the main road that leads into Nenwe, hotly followed by men, women and children who had sticks in their hand. People could be heard in Igbo congratulating the crowd for chasing the herdsmen out.

The Fulani herdsmen have been declared the fourth deadliest terrorist group in the world. In Nigeria, the armed Fulani herdsmen kill thousands of Nigerians and destroy billions worth of property and agricultural products every year. The government of Nigeria has refused to proscribe them and attempts are being made to appropriate lands to them.

Congratulations to the people of Nenwe for driving out the invaders!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kcbi4eLHLQ

This is barbaric. Only barbarians still burn people in this day and age

Well it's good that people like him are talking so that some ignorant Igbos can understand that Nigeria is all about slavery to the North

gwarotango:
Your people's turn will soon come and September 1966 will be child's play compared. Continue persecuting and demonizing the fulani, your comeuppance Will come

Demonising the people that are slaughtering people all over Nigeria and beyond?

So you would have compensated Nenwe people if those cows had destroyed their farmlands?

You people should be happy that Nenwe even allowed herdsmen idiots to leave peacefully with their cattle

Nenwe, be vigilant! Fulani are known to return armed to wherever they have been chased out. Be ready to defend your selves with anything possible!

I commend Nenwe for chasing the invaders and their cattle out!

Guestlander:
I've seen the video much earlier but I decided not to post it.
The slowpoke shouting in the background was going on as if he had never seen cows or a Fulani before.
The image of Ibos chasing people out of their communities is a bad omen for what is to come. The real criminals doesn't go around with cows.

The image of Igbos chasing people out of their community is bad omen of what is to come?

What is it will come that Igbos haven't seen or experienced in the past?

Quit notice?

Threats?

Massacre?

Mtcheew!

Nenwe community have done well by removing the herdsmen

Just look at the amount of cattle these evil Fulani brought into the community to cause havoc! They are lucky Igbos are generally peaceful people.

Next time they come to Nenwe, their removal will not be this peaceful

One thing I'm happy about is that 50 years on, people like Obasanjo and Gowon are still alive to see the Nigeria they fought for become hell on earth

wirinet:
It was termed am igbo coup because the masterminds were igbo, the officers that carried out most of the murders were igbo, all igbo military officers and politicians were spared in the murders and the beneficiaries of the coup were igbos. It was the perception that it was an igbo coup and the killings of their military, spiritual and political leaders that lead to anger and animosity by the northerners.

People waited six months to start killing because prior to that time, the military was in the hands of an igbo man. Any killings before the military changed hands would have been difficult. They took advantage of the counter coup, because they reason that Gowan would not cracking down on them. And true to their calculations, Gowon failed to handle the situation.

You can't compare igbo republican sentiment with feudal northern sentiments. Killing of an igbo governor is not the same thing as killing the spiritual and political leaders of a feudal society. It's like an Irishman (with cheers from the Irish people) killing the Queen of England, the prime minister and the most senior English general at a go.

Finally, you should wonder, why do you think other people generally do not like igbo people? Is it problem with all other tribes and people or with the igbos themselves?

As I said before, the reason they dont want to teach Nigerian history is because they dont want people like you to be enlightened. I used an extreme example that even if it was an Igbo coup, why would anybody go and start killing men, women and children?

Their was a time that mostly middle belt officers under the leadership of Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North. The coup was crushed but a massacre of people from the middle belt did not happen. If Dimka had been Igbo, they will start looking for Igbos to kill.

The truth of the matter is that the massacre of Igbos was not about if it was an Igbo coup or not, there was no 'Igbo coup' in 1945 or 1953 but they still found reason to massacre Igbos

Nigerians are prejudiced against Igbos, that's why they will move against Igbos in a way they will not against others.

What most Igbos dont understand is why Nigeria wont let Igbos go their way? When an Igbo man says he is tired of Nigeria and wants his own country where he can look after himself, the same Nigerian who does not like the Igbo man will say no.

When IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu say they dont want to be part of Nigeria, they will order Soldiers to go and kill them despite the fact that they dont have weapons and didn't kill anyone. But if Fulani with their AK47 murder people, they start looking for land to accommodate them

It is time for this madness called Nigeria to end by granting Igbo their own separate country

Well at least somebody understands why IPOB does not want Nigeria

Yyeske:
No justification for the pogrom that followed after the coup in the north but there is a 'but' somewhere.

A coup executed by mostly Igbo officers and mostly leaders from other regions were killed but none from the old eastern region. The coup was said to been carried out to remove corrupt leaders, does it mean there was no corrupt politician from the old Eastern region?

If you were to be from the old Northern or Western region, how would you feel?
I repeat, no justification for the pogrom in the north but put yourself in their position.

We've had reprisal attacks in the SE after some killings of Igbos in the north, why didn't our people just let it go? I remembered that of 2006 in Onitsha vividly.

You killed their leaders and even made fun of it in their faces in '66 and you weren't expecting a backlash?

There is a level you can push someone and he must react.
Still, no justification for any killing of innocent people

Jos 1945, Igbo were slaughtered in their hundreds by Notherners. Igbos did not kill any Northerner in the Eastern Region

Kano 1953, the same thing, Igbos did not retaliate

Even as they slaughtered thousands of Igbos in 1966 over the so called "Igbo coup", no Northerners lost their life in the East.

Since then, there has been a long list of incidents where Northerners have killed Igbos in the North for no justifiable reason other than being Igbo. Yet, there has been little or no attack on Northerners in Igbo land

To this day, many Igbos are still apprehensive about being in the North because nobody knows when they will rise up again

What this shows anybody who reasons with his brain is that Igbos should not be in the same country as Northern Nigeria.

Rolings:
yet people like you were agitating for the bringing back of history in our schools, do you think in the 'history of biafra war' the cause of disaffecction against the igbos will not be taught? it will be not because they are trying to justify the massacre of ibos but because that was what happened, other nigerians didnt just wake up one day and start killing igbos, it was as a result of the 'igbo coup' that killed leaders of other tribes while sparing their own leaders to rule over the rest of Nigerians....IGBONIZATION was the precursor to FULANIZATION & ISLAMIZATION

This is one of the reasons they dont want to teach history, they know that if they do, it will expose the long held lies that the first coup was an "Igbo coup".

Somebody who reads history will like to know the yardstick used to call it an Igbo when Yoruba coup plotters like Ademoyega, Adeleke, Oyewole. What about Nothern participants like Captain Gibson Jalo, Captain Egbiko and Lieutenant Kpera?

By what percentage was the coup Igbo? Youruba? And Hausa? The only time a coup can be called an "Igbo coup" is if it was 100% carried out by Igbos. In this case, it was not.

Nigerians waking up to kill Igbos has been happening long before the so called Igbo coup. It happend in Jos in 1945 and Kano in 1953.


But let us look at an extreme situation. Let take that it was 100% and Igbo coup that killed the leaders of other Regions and spared that from the east. The coup was in January, the massacre of Igbos started about 6 months later

Doesnt it sound strange to you that people will start killing other people for what happend 6 months before?

Assuming a few Yorubas go and kill Governor Ugwuanyi of Enugu state, should Enugu people kill any Yoruba they serve because of what a few did?

Also, doesnt it look suspicious to you Igbos would wait 6 months to to revenge this?

The massacre was not about the coup, it was just because some people dont like the face of Igbos

oyatz:
This your last post clearly showed that your understanding of the issues at stake is very shallow.

1) Nigeria did not seceed from Britian in 1960. British Colonialism was a period of Foreign rule of indigenous people sustained by military might of the colonialists.

It was a foreign occupation which naturally is bound to be resented by the natives and couldn't have lasted forever. The British knew this from the onset.

The Nigeria we are talking about was created by the British. If it were not for them, nobody would be a Nigerian today. Be that as it may, the British recognised the right of indigenous ethnic nations that make up Nigeria, to determine if they want to remain part of the British empire or become an independent country. But when you ask a Nigerian to recognise the right of the Igbo nation to be an independent country, the same Nigerian will start calling for python dance and proscription. Nnamdi Kanu and his group want referendum, which is the direct opposite of secession

[b]2) The opposition to British rule started almost immediately after the advent of colonial rule with Dr Obasa and prominent educated Yoruba elites forming the first Political party , The Peoples's Union in 1909 to galvanized the natives to demand to self rule.[/quote]Which is what Nnamdi Kanu and his group are doing. They are galvanising the people to agitate for referendum where they can choose to be independent of Nigeria.

3) Herbert Macaulay and Dr Azikiwe weren't just leaders of pressure groups organizing protests against British rule, they metamorphosed to Political leaders.
They formed Political parties (NNDP in 1922 by Macaulay, NCNC in 1946 by Macaulay, Zik, Adewoyin, Olorunnimbe, Michael Imodu &others), contested and won elections to legitimize their aspirations.

Unlike Herbert Macaulay and Zik who wanted political power as well as independence, Kanu and his group only care about independence and not political power

3) They sought mandates from the peoples (Conference of ethnic groups in 1950 at Ibadan) where demands for self rule was made loud and clear.

Anybody can convene some people from various ethnic groups an make demands of independence, but this means nothing compared to getting millions out on the streets

4) Between 1952-1959, several constitutional conferences were held by the Traditional, elected and Political leaders of all the peoples in Nigeria to reach an agreement on independence.

And some day, IPOB hope's that the political leaders of Nigeria and the national assembly will one day meet and decide to grant the area once known as "The Eastern Region" a referendum that will allow those of them who are tired of Nigeria to go their way

5) The elected Representatives of the colonized peoples became the most vocal campaigners of independence.

In 1953, Hon Tony Enahoro of the Action Group (AG) moved on the floor of the House of REPRESENTATIVES the first motion for the independence of Nigeria by 1956. This didn't go down well with the Northern People's Congress (NPC) members who strongly opposed the motion.

Hon Remilekun Fani-Kayode (the father of FFK) of the Action Group in 1956 moved another motion for independence which again was thwarted by the NPC leadership.

It was after much persuation, horse trading and negotiation with the leaders of the North and the minorities that every body agreed on independence by 1960, hence

Hon SL Akintola of the Action Group finally moved the successful motion for independence in 1959. This was successful.

The Biafran agitators do not want to make the mistake of Nigeria. They dont want to take anyone against their will. Rather than for one or two people to move a motion that will give an area independence, they want the people to directly choose what they want through a referendum. This is far more democratic than what Enahoro did

oyatz:
The old Eastern Region was an administrative area consisting of many tribes created by the British colonial Masters in the same way Nigeria was created.

When did Kanu seek their consent to determine that they want a referendum? Who gave Kanu the mandate to ask for referendum?

Do the Governors and Houses of Assemblies of these States ask for referendum or Kanu and his group have greater legitimacy than their States' Governments?

Kanu does not need to seek the mandate of of anybody just as the British did not seek anybody's mandate before they lumped everybody into Nigeria

What matters is that everybody, including Kanu, has the right of self determination which is codified in international law and ratified by Nigeria. So Kanu and his group have the right to call for referendum of anywhere. Whether Kanu gets a referendum is another issue but he is well in his rights to call for one.

Besides, what type of person or people doesnt want the right to decide where they want to be or what country they belong to? Only a complete idiot or slave will deny himself the right to choose

oyatz:
I also want referendum in Onitsha to determine whether, they should be carved into Kogi State or remain in Anambra State.

That's why you should support Kanu so we can all get referendum and choose where we want to be

oalandAgents2:
Please my Igbo family why is Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB agitating for freedom? Is he not free?

Of course Kanu and IPOB are not free. Freedom is when you can choose where you want to be. If Kanu and his people are not free to choose if the want to be in Nigeria or not, then they are not free

Somebody else mentioned IPOB is seeking a referendum, but did not state who he is seeking that referendum from.

Is it possible to achieve referendum whilst remaining outside of the politics of the country and existing democratic structures?

Nnamdi Kanu said he wants referendum in the area that comprised of the former Eastern Region that was once declared Biafra.

It is possible to get referendum without being involved in the politics of the country. Referendum is something that is conducted on the order of the national assembly.

Unik3030:
bro,u are being emotional here, don't forget to every action there is an equal n opposite reaction. so kindly tell us what led to the massacre instead of trying to make us believe that they just woke up someday n started killing the igbos for no reason

Do you care why Boko haram is massacaring people? It can never be justified so there is no point.

When herdsmen go out and massacre communities, nobody cares about the reason because massacre is never justified

Nothing on earth ever justifies the killing of unarmed and defenceless men, women and children. Only a fool will be looking for a reason to justify the mass-murder of people.

food4tot:
My people, before you get too far into deliberations on Nnamdi Kanu. I know you all want to be independent people.
But the the question is this: Independent from what?

From the day we are born to the day we die, we'll always have people we don't agree with.

Even a little kid without money wants to be independent and move out of the house.

When will consider yourself to have achieved your goal?

When you are independent from Nigeria?
When you are independent from other ethnic groups in Biafra?
When you are independent from other igbo groups that speak a different dialect?
When you are independent from members of your village?
When you are independent from your family?
When you are dead and gone?

My opinion is this, don't fight for independence, there is no such thing in this world. Rather fight for peace and a good life for your generations and those after you.

This is how a slave reasons

oalandAgents2:
Family please assist me with some answers to these questions:
What do we know about Nnamdi Kanu?
What qualifications or leadership experience does he have?

There is a difference between Nnamdi Kanu and Ojukwu. Ojukwu was a political leader, head of state and freedom fighter

Nnamdi Kanu neither seeks political power nor does he want to lead any nation. He is simply a freedom agitator. So asking what leadership experience Kanu has is of no use.

Anybody or group is allowed to agitate for freedom or self determination, it is codified in international law.

It was the same international law that people like Zik and Awolowo used to agitate for Nigerias independence from Britain

So asking about Kanu, his background or what type of boxers he wears is not what matters. What matters is if he represents the majority view of his people

Afospecialk:
Nigeria just started massacre of our people for no reason ?

am I missing something here ?

Yes you missing something, you miss the fact that you are asking a stupid question

No massacre of people is justified. So looking for the reason behind the massacre is a waste of time

Jmk9292:
There is always a solution to this herdsmen saga... But the government is only adamant and playing to the gallery....

So they go about killing people, raping women and you Nigerians give them farm settlements?

Yyeske:
They don't want an Igbo domination, they prefer other bigger ethnic groups checkmating the Igbos, if you don't like their decision, report to the nearest police station.
They don't like or want Igbo domination, simple.

Very funny. They want other bigger ethnic groups to be checkmating Igbos but it is the bigger ones than have been running things since the end of the war and marginalising them for 50 years.

80% of their Oil wealth is already in the hands of the Notherners. Even the restructuring they want is not possible because the North dont care about it. It's like the story of the person who thought mosquitoes were his problem until he opened his eyes and realised that the room was full of reptiles

zibya:
The 3 ethnic groups counterbalance each other, besides the Niger delta is by far better off in Nigeria then they would have ever been under Biafra. They made the right choice

And how has this counter balancing helped any of the minorities? They are still poor despite the huge oil and gas wealth coming from their lands.

At least in Biafra, the minorities would have had only Igbos to contend with. In Nigeria the have Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa-Fulani to contend with.

I have never heard of anyone who solved a problem by making it triple.

Yyeske:
The minorities in the SS have always dreaded the Igbo dominance

Well if they dreaded Igbo domination then it must be a living nightmare for them in Nigeria where they now have Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa-Fulani domination to contend with. I used to think it was better to have one master than 3

and Gowon gave them what they wanted by granting them their States, old South Eastern state and old Rivers state.

They got their states and lost control of their resources. The states turned to be what impoverished them despite all the oil and gas wealth coming from their land

They have never loved the Igbos

Same as they never loved Yorubas or Hausas but everyone is stuck inside Nigeria together

zibya:
That's exactly what happened and you know it. The fear of Ibo domination in a Biafra drove the southern minorities into supporting the federal cause. It's documented history

Well that made things much worse for them because now they are dominated by 3 groups instead of one. Somebody says he is afraid of one ethnic group dominating him then helps a situation that make three ethnic group to dominate him. I laugh in Spanish

Efewestern:
Minorities both in the Western, Eastern and Northern region were all dominated and subdued. it's not actually an Igbo thing but a human trait to always want to lord over small or minor groups. it's just so unfortunate that the Northern minorities haven't got a voice till this day.

My only ish is people trying to drag the minorities into a union we all know will favor a single ethnic group, while I can't speak for the entire southern minorities, never will I support my ethnic group being dragged into a union with a SINGLE ethnic group, it's a recipe for disaster. I don't want my kids Fighting for FREEDOM.

It has nothing to do with enemy but INTEREST.

Everybody was dragged into a they didn't want, a union of Nigera, by the white man.