₦airaland Forum

OROSUNBOLB:
Lol ! Your analysis is funny. In actual fact,It is close to being called childish ! Perhaps, if you put emotions aside,you will realise that your analogy of three pieces of meat for three people is quite laughable. Bro,it is called politics ! A very delicate game that requires tactical manoeuvering, bridge building, currying favours ,reaching out even to your known enemies,projecting your image positively, forming alliance,selling yourself and your ideas etc.

What are you talking about ? In a democracy, nobody gives any meat to anybody ! You have to work very hard and demonstrate to others that you are deserving of having "the meat" ! Have you people genuinely demonstrated that you're deserving of being entrusted with the highest political office in Nigeria ? Who would vote for any candidate from a region whose inhabitants call other Nigerians animals and the country zoo ? It is either Biafra today and tomorrow you want to become the president of "zoo" ! Come on guy,figure it out !

Talking about 2023 and your empty blackmail,the entire votes from the SE can't stop the SW from producing the next president if the push comes to shove. You need to understand that the political dynamics of the SS are entirely different from that of the SE. South east is homogenous ; south south is not - it is a complex composition of diverse ethnic groups ! South south and South east do not share the same political agenda,stop deceiving yourself bro. Even at that, there are some very powerful Yoruba politicians with strong and unbreakable alliances all over the country. Politicians operate on the principle of "common interest" ; they don't care about any common man !

Igbo are good business oriented people who are equally gifted in craftsmanship. Use your talents to get your dream country, Biafra as that seems the only way out of your current political mess in Nigeria. By nature,you'll always be at loggerhead with politics and democracy. You ain't democratic in nature !

Stop talking like a kid. In 1999, Nigeria conceded the Presidency of Nigeria to the South West because of equity, justice and fairness. Everybody knew of the injustice of June 12th. The South West had its 8 years with Obasanjo.

So what moral justification has the South West got to seek another term in office when the South South has had only one term and the South East has had none? Only the South West is good to have 8 years?

If in 2023, the South West insists that they will go for the Presidency, rather than support either the South South to complete their 8 years, or the South East to have 4 years, then it is only fair that all 6 geopolitical zones should aspire to the Presidency, no more zoning. Whoever wins, carries the day.

If people in Nigeria dont like they fact that the South East calks Nigeria a zoo, they should feel free to allow the South East become an independent country. Why would anyone want to be in the same country with those who call the country a zoo if not mischief or ulterior motive?

TheCork:
Bro am from London. I no nada about apc, plc, ppc, KFC, or jjc. U tribalistic ibo people & boko garam seem to have the same goal to destroy Nigeria. That's all u people talk about; brakkng up Nigeria as if u people r gods choosen people. What u people dont understand is that the more u people become more aggressive with yor shbamgrakolick tribalistic views..they more every suspect u people..
Again if u do no like the beautiful Nigeria..then u are free to move to another planet...juss make sure u buy one way ticket!!(no oofense)


I hate tribalistic scums & I mean that in a nice way sir..Real talk!!

Well if Nigerians feel that way then you people should let Igbos go their way, after all, there was a time before the British created Nigeria that we were not together but we all survived

TheCork:
Kingzizzy definitely another tribalistic phakoramgratic ibo. ..all they do is want to divide Nigeria, acting like boko graram. If they dont like Nigeria as one then they should bloody move to Mars!!(no oofense)

We have been divided long tome ago and we have never been one. I said that anyone is entitled to support who ever they like but any Igbo who chooses to support a devilish party like APC is not worth respecting as far as Im concerned

How you are granted amnesty if you are Fulani.......

Chimok:
A country where nothing works - No electricity. When there is a little agitation, the politicians will try to fix the power issue for a while and eventually it will go back to zero.
No roads, No well functioning healthcare.
In Anambra where they introduced health insurance scheme that is not working because when you go to the registered hospital, the treatment you get will advise you never to ever come back with the health insurance card.
Poor education system where the politicians' children study abroad.
A deceitful party system where the political parties have no ideology. where one do not know the difference between PDP & APC.
A country where the youth can only survive through crime and the obedient ones are continually subjugated and ignored by the leaders.
A country where politicians create and sponsor violence.
A country where an honest man cannot contest and win elections.
A country that needs restructuring to survive but the politicians will sit on it.
A country where honesty does not pay.
A country the poor masses will be fighting one another in the name ethnicity to the clear advantage of the oppressors the politicians
A country where the citizens will continue dying and smiling.
A country where someone will rise to fight the system for the poor masses and the same poor masses will be crying 'crucify him'.
Things continue to get worse and There is no ease (solution) in sight.
The citizen continue living in endless hope created by the politicians that never become reality.
A country where one ethnic group is lording it over others.
These present leaders wrestled powers from their fathers in their 20s and are still there in their 80s
If u hope for things to get better with these present leadership, u can endlessly hope but it will never materialize because this is their only style and system of leadership.
It's time we respect those who have the balls to question the system - The Sowores, Nnamdi Kanus
The poor masses can only survive when their is major shake up. Buhari can never help u. Tinubu cannot, PDP or APC cannot

Now some people are beginning to understand why Ojukwu fought to get his people out of the hopelessly unworkable disaster called Nigeria

OROSUNBOLB:
You can't subtract M K O Abiola's factor from 1999 political equation and that's exactly what brought about the reason why all political parties fielded Yoruba as their presidential candidates. Abiola paid supreme political sacrifice with his life for all Nigerians and for Yoruba in particular.

Believe it or not, Nigeria was on the verge of certain disintegration and the world powers knew it. The effect of such disintegration would have destroyed the entire west African economy irreparably and the whole of Africa would never have remained same again. Therefore, the world powers had to find a political solution to appease the aggrieved Yorubas and that's what Obasanjo benefitted from. Trust me,Obasanjo was more of the world super powers candidate than he was of the caliphate's as most of you ignorantly assume.

Now,I want to ask you,given your knowledge of Abiola's political saga and the scenario above ,why should we,all Nigerians,elect an Igbo as the next President in 2023 putting aside the unreasonable sentiment of "it is our turn" ? You can't possibly reap where you have not sown and more so that you have made yourselves political orphans in Nigeria.

The only way out for Nd'igbo,like I always say, is to pursue Biafra rigorously and with all your resources. It is easier for a Sudanese to become president of Nigeria than an Igbo !

Pursue Biafra and forget about 2023 or any other time soon.

There is something called equity. If there are 3 of pieces of meat in a plate of food that 3 people are eating, one person cannot eat one meat and reach for another when the other 2 have not had their own.

The South West have had their 8 years with Obasanjo. The South South have had one term with Jonathan while the South East has had nothing. Both the South East and South South are yet to equal the South West's 8 years.

Now that power is expected to come South in 2023, the South West is coming for another piece of meat again

In 2023, if the Presidency is not going to the SS to enable them complete their 8 years, or to the SE, to enable have at least 4 years, then it is better that power stays in the North.

yarimo:
security should deal with anyone ruthlessly that attempts to disturb the peace of others.

Yeah, you mean the way the security forces and Governor Masari went to beg the armed terrorists below to lay down his arms because he is Fulani?

The rate at which Nigerians support the Nigerian Army to commit extra judicial killings is truly shocking

There is a section of Nigeria who are only for "one Nigeria" until Oil finishes or ceases to be a serious revenue earner. "One Nigeria" has always been about Oil, nothing more

ThatFairGuy1:
I expected this before I open the thread.
BUT YOU ALL WANT KALU TO FLAG APC'S TICKET! HOW SENSIBLE?

Whiteangel1234, with this, you still want APC'S ticket for Kalu?

As I said, anyone is entitled to support who they like but any Igbo man who is supporting this current failed APC government that has marginalised Igbos is misguided. However, if everyone agrees that it is the turn of the Igbos to produce the President, then the major political parties should zone the Presidency to the South East. This is not about Orji Uzo Kalu, this is about equity that all 6 geopolitical zones should produce the President

In 1999, Yorubas did not support PDP, but PDP, AD and APP all fielded Yorubas to ensure that someone from the South West became President

In 2023, even if Igbos dont support APC, APC and PDP should field someone from the South East to ensure power moves there

Unless we are trying to say that it is one rule for the South West, and another for the South East?

I just lost all respect for him. Theres a way I see any Igbo man who supports the devilish party called APC, although everyone is entitled to support who they like.

bigtt76:
My thoughts

1. The military wouldn't have killed him unprovoked
2. Why didn't the governor invite the military to the event at Katina-Àla where he first surrendered and also get them to escorts him to Makurdi or coordinate the entire process?
3. We're the military fully carried along?
4. How come all of sudden a proclaimed criminal is being hailed and mourned?
5. If he were innocent, what has he been doing in the Bush armed?

I think the government is playing real politics here

Governor Ortom has already said that the Nigerian Army were fully briefed on the Amnesty programme. Besides, the Army were at the stadium where Gana surrendered. In the picture below, you can see a Soldier standing behind Gana.

What I think happened was that the Nigerian Army just wanted to kill him, by hook or crook. They couldn't kill him at the stadium due to the large crowd and dignitaries there so they waited until he left in the convoy, then they stopped the convoy at a safe location, dragged him out, executed him, then ran to issue a ridiculous statement that he was killed in a shootout. I dont really care about Gana, what I care about is the extra-judicial killing of unarmed people by the Nigerian Army, which is a crime against humanity.

helinues:
Why are some people this shallow now.

Gana was a wanted criminal with bounty placed on his head...

The same person that Benue state place bounty on his head the same state alleging of giving amnesty to Gana.

Why didn't Benue state government inform FG about the amnesty when same FG placed bounty on Gana's head.

So Benue state was planning of giving second amnesty to Gana when he bluntly blew off this first one

There are lots of questions that nobody is interested in answering.

Anyone that is pained with the killing of Gana should take up his position and let security deal with him

Does this justify grabbing an unarmed man out of a car and executing him? If you think it does then better know that by doing so, the Nigerian Army broke sections 33, 34 and 36 of the Nigerian constitution

If your own Army does not care about the law, is it me that should care about it?

blazesam:
am still thinking, is it all about aboki?

What did you think its always been about?

Extra-judicial execution by the Nigerian Army should be condemned by all because not doing do so will give them the power of life and death. This is not military rule.

Going about killing unarmed people from IPOB to Shiites to Terwase Akwaza is a crime against humanity

Whatever one has done, only the law courts have the right to take ones life away legally

NaijirianKing:
It actually makes more sense for Igbo to embrace the tribe of "Anioma" as a different tribe, the reason for this is that the major coup plotter Kaduna Nzeogwu came from this ethnic group.

So when historical revisionists try to say an "Igbo man" played a major role in killing the leaders of the North, you can call them on their bluff as that man was an "Anioma man" from the Niger Delta.

Play the game all the way.

Oh really? So because of Nzeogwu that died over 50 years ago, Igbos should deny fellow Igbos like Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Austin 'Jay Jay' Okocha, Ned Nwoko, Tony Elumelu, Sunny Odogwu and many more of its illustrious son's and daughters?

Let others who conducted coups after Nzeogwu such as Babangida, Gowon, Danjuma deny their people first.

Rich4god:
Where is the Nig Army?
Where is the Air Force?
Where is the Police?
Where is DSS?

They are chasing after unarmed IPOB

My dream is for the Igbo nation to have its own separate independent country and anyone who is trying to convince me to drop that dream and accept this Nigeria that has long failed, may thunder fire that persons left ynash

Simplyleo:
Rear Admiral Ndubuisi Kanu?

I thought there is no single high ranking igbo officer in the military.

He retired more than 20 years ago

MightySparrow:
Since presidency is by killing and violence, let brave igbo start their own.

Of course not, Igbos are not going to do that. Yorubas and Fulani's have nothing to show for the 8 years each of them had power for Igbos to start killing people, like they did, over a worthless position

Im actually sad for whoever takes over from Buhari. That person is going to spend his 8 years paying back debt.

Its human history. Whenever a group rises up for freedom, another group will rise up to suppress them.

But no matter what, Biafrans will eventually be free

Ojiofor:
Nnamdi Kanu started by attacking Uwazuruike and still attacking him as we speak,same game same people just different format.

May be but it is not attacking Uwazurike that made IPOB the main agitation for Biafra. If Nnamdi Kanu was just about attacking Uwazurike, nobody would have taken him seriously since anyone can do that

Only a complete idiot and barbarian will be commending the Nigerian Army for grabbing an unarmed repentant man from his car and executing him extra-judicially, thereby violating sections 33,34 and 36 of the Nigerian constitution

How can anyone commend the Nigerian Army for being unprofessional, gun wielding assassins who have no regard for the constitution, the rule of law or fundamental human rights?

Terrible

Goodmarlian:
An average Nigerian will tell you I cannot vote an Igbo man as president God forbid igbos are greedy, igbos like domination ,the will break Nigeria into pieces,but he will vote a Fulani man over and over again knowing very well that the Fulani tribe has murdered millions of Nigerians of all tribes since amalgamation now a murderer and a greedy person who is better to lead?.If hypocrisy is a person he will a Nigerian .

In the 1990's, OPC were a reign of terror in the South West, killing, destroying, shooting and burning. Yet that did not stop Nigerians electing a Yoruba man called Olusegun Obasanjo in 1999 and 2003.

Since 2010, armed Fulani herdsmen have been slaughtering people in almost every state Nigeria, but that did not stop Nigerians electing a Fulani man called Muhammadu Buhari President in 2015 and 2019

But as 2023 approaches and the talk of Igbo Presidency comes, you will hear "the first coup was Igbo", "they fought a civil war", "IPOB and Biafra"

Nigerians and double standards are like 5 and 6

goodnessme1:
Am not your son nor your brother.

All you do is to insult Kanu without making any reasonable point.

If Kanu is not doing it right,then start yours we all will support you.



for now we hate KANU and love your one Nigeria

Thats the only thing them and their LNC is good for. All they do is attack Kanu and IPOB. Rather than for them to go and sell their LNC ideology to the people the way Kanu sold IPOB ideology, the LNC is just about trying to discredit Kanu and IPOB.

martyns303:
I support the military on this one, don’t negotiate with terrorist.

Modified:
To those who think he shouldn’t have been killed, this was not the first time the guy would have embraced “peace” and still go back to his old ways. Moreover the people of the community he has been terrorizing will be grateful that he’s gone.

That means you support the military to break the law, disregard the constitution and commit murder. What you are actually supporting is state sponsored terrorism

If the security forces cannot uphold the law, who do you expect will uphold it?

Only a barbarian will support his own security forces to break the law by murdering an unarmed man who had already surrendered

dignity33:
The reason is that NK have made it impossible to any individual to take up the struggle of Biafra because IPOB will attacked the person both spiritual and physical and tag him saboteur of Igbos. NK is only in a mission to bury Biafra struggle that is the truth of the matter.

This is stupid excuse. There was a time Uwazurike of MASSOB thought his struggle for Biafra was everything. Some of his followers like Kanu disagreed with him and went and started their own agitation with IPOB. IPOB later overtook MASSOB. If anyone feels that they disagree with Kanu, they should go and start their own group and overtake Kanu/IPOB with superior agitation

What I hate are those who will come online to seek to destroy Kanu and IPOB when they have nothing on the ground that is better. They wil come and say that Kanu is collecting money in the name of Biafra, forgetting that it is only those who are happy with what Kanu is doing that contribute money to Kanu.

If it were not for IPOB and Kanu, these same people that criticise Kanu would not be talking about Biafra today. Its not everything that comes out of Kanu's mouth I accept, but I cannot do better than him, so I have no business trying to pull him down

Buhari that was busy proscribing unarmed groups like IPOB and IMN and left his fellow Fulani to run around Nigeria with AK47 killing people

Andeze:
Don't be deceived by what Suswam is saying, that man deserves to die, judging by his deeds.

The problem is that it should not be the military that decides if he deserves to die, it should be the court!

There is no justification for the authorities to kill a man who has already surrendered, even for a Soldier to kill an enemy Soldier who has already surrendered in war is a war crime

DeltaFire:
My dear, I was a teenager during the Biafra War. All my life I have dreamed of our own beautiful Biafra. Every Igbo person in this One Nigeria and abroad wants Biafra. We know that separation from Arewa must happen.
What I and others are saying is that Nnamdi Kanu is DECEIVING Igbo people. That is what we are saying.

Plus, we will not allow Igbo to again be isolated from our neighbouring ethnic nationality brothers. Kanu is working to isolate Igbo and he will never set foot again in Nigeria even when this country breaks up. All he wants is your money. Go read my other post describing a cult. IPOB is nothing but a little cult going nowhere. IPOB cult members have been brainwashed but luckily many are leaving that cult.
Kanu will not achieve his planned isolation of Ndi Igbo.

How is Kanu deceiving Igbos? How us Kanu isolating Igbos?