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LordReed:
Therefore Shokolokobamboshe exists and has right to privacy. LoLz.

And KWAM 1 (no, not that one ) is the only true God. Can the house shout Shokolokobamboshe?!

sonmvayina:
You are just a slowpoke..

Abeg sit down make person see road.

Lol, I spoke to the burning bush like Moses and it assures me that I am not a slowpoke and that the virgin was indeed impregnated.

sonmvayina:
Lol..

I can understand the rest, but god impregnating another man's wife.. I can't even fathom it...

But you can fathom other Jewish nonsense. Maybe we need your former Jewish landlord to come tell it you.

sonmvayina:
He is old enough
I just want to hear his opinion..

It is a waste of time explaining to a 9 year old like you..

C'mon!! At least give me 10 years!!!
Anyway, didn't you know that the "universal consciousness" has a dick and likes to f#ck virgins? He even accepted 32 virgins after his chosenites pillaged and murdered the Midianites.

MaxInDHouse:
Anyhow you defined it Sir!
Most of you don't grasp the style of teaching Jesus of Nazareth introduced, you just wake up one day, fabricated an erroneous definition of what someone else believe then expect him or her to agree with you simply because you detest it.
Ọmọ you will forever continue to feel bitter and angry if you don't accept Jesus' style of teaching: allow the worshiper to explain then reason along to prove the concept wrong.

The book said God did so many things that's unimaginable so for a female to get pregnant without sex is nothing compared to greater things recorded about this God. That's why your view doesn't count at all!

lol, my favorite "Jesus style of teaching" is when he was asked to explain himself but instead insulted the people and calls them "children of their father, the devil" or when he spews nonsense about where the wind goes when asked to explain something else.

MaxInDHouse:
“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness" Genesis 1:26

I wonder why he keeps hammering on what all humans do when this God says He created humans in his own image!

And he was so in love with his image that he fuckd it, impregnated it, then killed it. All for his own amusement.

dattaswami1:
When you approach an atheist and try to change the person through logic, leave the atheist to God, after presenting the final logic, which is that there is a 50-50 probability of the existence or non-existence of God. You should say the following to the atheist:

“This space is infinite and neither you nor I can find its boundary. I cannot show you the existence of hell, heaven or God in this infinite space. But you too cannot show me their absence in this infinite space by taking me up to the boundary of space. Hence, hell may exist or it may not exist.

Here is where a 50-50 probability has to be accepted. Suppose, I believe in the existence of hell and hence, I do not commit sins. Even if, after my death, I find out that there is no hell, there is no loss for me. While I am still alive, I have already enjoyed the benefit of living a tension-free life and not having to bother about the police and courts, since I have not committed any sins. On the other hand, if you commit sins believing that hell does not exist and after your death, if you find out that unfortunately, hell does exist, you are totally lost!
So, whenever there is a 50-50 probability, a wise man always errs on the safe side. One must always choose the side with a lower risk. Let us say there is a blind person walking on the road. One person tells him that there is a fire ahead in his path and another person tells him that there is no fire ahead. Whom should the blind man choose to follow?

Certainly, if he is a wise blind man, he will turn back because even if the fire is absent, there would be no loss to him. But if the blind man is foolish, he will choose to disregard the warning and take the risk of going forward. If unfortunately, there is actually a fire ahead, he will get burnt!

Therefore, choose the side of lower risk given the 50-50 probability and believe in the existence of the unimaginable God, heaven and hell. Worship God with devotion and do meritorious deeds without committing any sins. Even if God, heaven and hell are absent, you will get enough benefit of believing in God, heaven and hell, which is a life of happiness, peace and freedom from even a trace of tension of the police and the courts.

After all, whether a person is a theist or an atheist, all the efforts the person makes in life is only to get this benefit of a peaceful and happy life. Apart from this benefit in this world, there is also the possibility of you getting a huge benefit in the upper worlds after your death, which is very clearly stated by several Godmen and divine scriptures.”

If the atheist leads a worldly life following justice and avoids sins (pravṛtti), it is more than sufficient. Devotional life (nivṛtti) is not mandatory for him. But accepting at least the existence of the unimaginable God is essential for everybody because it controls sins by instilling the fear of punishment from God. God and His ways of punishment being unimaginable, one can never escape from them, even though one might be able to escape from the police and the courts in this world. The concept of the Human Incarnation is not necessary for an atheist. The atheist should also have open mind to observe the genuine miracles in this world. The observed genuine miracles are essentially unimaginable events and they prove the existence of their source, who is the unimaginable God. The concept of the Human Incarnation is only essential for nivṛtti, which is the path chosen by devotees who aspire for the extreme grace of God.

The Boundary of Space

Another topic that is controversial for atheists, which is the boundary of the universe or space. If the atheistic scientist says that he will show the boundary of the universe through his research tomorrow, you can also tell him that you too will show the existence of the unimaginable God, heaven and hell, the day after tomorrow!

Space must have a boundary because, if space has no boundary, the boundary of space becomes unknown, even to the omniscient God. Then, God cannot be omniscient due to His ignorance about the boundary of space. Therefore, from the view-point of God, the boundary of space does exist. Beyond that boundary, the unimaginable God alone exists and He is without spatial co-ordinates and hence, without volume. An item without volume cannot be imagined by anybody even after concentrating on it for millions of births and therefore, the God beyond space is unimaginable.

From the view-point of the soul, the existing boundary of the universe can never be reached by the soul because if the soul touches the boundary of space, it touches the unimaginable God existing beyond the boundary of space. Since the unimaginable God can never be touched even by the imagination of the soul, the boundary of the universe or space can never be touched by the soul.

If a ship reaches the boundary of the ocean, it means that it has reached the shore or the land, which exists beyond the boundary of the ocean. Hence, the boundary of the infinite space is untouchable in the sense that it can never be reached by the soul. Assuming that the soul is running to touch the boundary of the universe, the universe appears to continuously expand, so that the soul can never touch the boundary of space. This can be correlated with the scientific concept of the constantly expanding universe. In the Gītā, God Kṛṣṇa has said that His creation is endless, which means that the boundary of His creation can never be touched by the human being or even by the angel (Nā'ntosti mama divyānām…—Gītā). Both the human being and the angel (energetic being) are only souls. God Kṛṣṇa was preaching to Arjuna about the endless creation created by Him (God). So, the universe was said to be endless from the view-point of Arjuna, a human being.

God is the divine Father of all the souls (Ahaṃ bījapradaḥ pitā…–Gītā) and has a lot of affection towards souls. In fact, God’s grace is more on atheists than on theists because the doctor’s attention more necessary for a patient than healthy people. God will never leave any soul, even if he is an atheist! Even if the soul is left by all other souls, who are its brothers and sisters, God, who is the parent, will never leave the atheistic soul. Even if the atheistic soul is thrown by God in to the liquid fire of hell, it is not with vengeance, but only with love, so that the soul may improve (Tānahaṃ dviṣataḥ…—Gītā). Also, the soul is not thrown in to liquid fire forever. It is thrown in to it only until it becomes porous enough to allow the water of spiritual knowledge to enter into it. The word ‘forever’ only means a very long time. If an employee is given a letter which states that he has been made permanent, it means that he is ‘permanent’ only up to the retirement age.

When the soul, losing its rigidity (ego) becomes porous to spiritual learning, the soul is again granted a human rebirth. The liquid fire in hell is the only miracle that can change the atheist making him lose his rigidity. Other miracles will not work with such rigid stones. God Kṛṣṇa exhibited the cosmic vision, but Duryodhana did not change at all. God will exhibit miracles provided God has some hope that the soul will change, be it a theist or an atheist. Miracles are also used by God to help theists or atheists provided there is some hope of their spiritual development. When there is no such hope, the unimaginable God does not exhibit any miracles simply to prove His existence. God is not bothered about proving His existence. He is only bothered about the spiritual development of souls.

-By Shri Datta Swami
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

Mr. Shri..

sonmvayina:
Let him answer..

I have no qualms with him. I’m wondering why you draw the line at the Hebrew god impregnating a virgin when descriptions of him are very human like.
Numbers 31 is my personal favorite. What’s far fetched about “the lord” fucking a virgin?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're an atheist in the making, just the name of your own god and the continent that first know about your god.
I'm not interested in your stories!

Lmao

dattaswami1:
Human incarnation results when unimaginable God merges with imaginable devoted soul selected by God for the sake of some important work to be done in the world for the welfare of the souls. The process of the merge of unimaginable item with an imaginable item is also unimaginable. Only the process between two imaginable items existing in this imaginable creation is imaginable.

This is very imaginative

dattaswami1:
God created human beings in the beginning of the first phase of creation (Kruta Yuga), in which all the human beings were just following the instructions of God like the robots following the programme fed in to the machine heads. In such stage, there is no freedom of soul. All the instructions from God were always exceptionally good and there is no bad information. There is no need of knowing good and bad when the brain is totally surrendered to God (Tameva sharanam gachcha... Gita).

Lol, I love how this narrative goes against what most people on here believe.

sonmvayina:
Why should I believe god impregnated another man's wife to sire a son?

Firstly, they weren’t married yet when the ghost did the deed.
Secondly, why can’t a god impregnate a woman? This Hebrew god is written to have all manner of human attributes and even commands wars and other human activities. But you draw the line at him impregnating a virgin!

Jashub:
Another dead atheist

An atheist doesn’t “believe in god”. I’m not an atheist. Your god is nonsense.

Jashub:
In my view , Christians have nothing to lose if it is discovered that there is no life after death.

But if it turns out Christians were right , it will be the largest gathering of usless prayers in hellfire,

Another wonderful christian.

Tunechi5:
Who will be right at the end

lol

So if atheists are right, there is no harm done, but if christians are right, people will be tortured in molten lava.

Lmao. Somehow, christians their beliefs are the epitome of morality and goodness.

Does T!4goon exist?

sonmvayina:
When a body stops being conscious,
Where does it go?

Lol.

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budaatum:
We say things like "the spirit of the law", so it must have a meaning outside religion we can make known between us if we tried.

This is not about the “aim or purpose” of a law.
We are also not talking about the spirited efforts of someone doing something with eagerness or passion.
We are also not talking about a person in a good or buoyant mood being in good spirits.
We are also not talking about good alcohol or spirit.
We are talking about the entity called “Spirit” as used in religions or metaphysics. The “Holy Spirit” being an example of this type of entity.

budaatum:
Holiness is somewhat more pertaining to religion, I think, so we are perhaps less likely to agree on what it might mean. So let me present Paul Tripp to get this conversation going.

First Definition: qadowsh (To Cut) - To be holy means to be “cut off”, or separate, from everything else. It means to be in a class of your own, distinct from anything that has ever existed or will ever exist.

I guess Pastor Tripp’s example of a qadowsh being is what he calls “God”.
You know who else is “cut off”? Before we even get to God, please know that Goa, Gob, and Goc are all qadowsh!!

Second Definition: Qadowsh - To be holy means to be entirely morally pure, all the time and in every way possible.

Number 1: The last person in this fucking world that will tell me about “morality” is a white American evangelical. That’s a joke.
Number 2: “Entirely morally pure” doesn’t mean anything.
Number 3: The murderous ethnocentric god of the Jews is not a basis for any sound system of morality.
Number 4: Neither is his alleged cult leader son.

Ayietim:
Having unlimited power. An unlimited power that defies the law of nature which every natural being obeys

What is the law of nature?
What is supernatural?

Ayietim:
Is power not used to influence others to behave the way the powerholder (omnipotent) want?

I understand power being used to influence people and events in normal course of human interactions. I have no idea what you mean by “omnipotent”.

Ayietim:
Therefore, it follows that a supernatural power would wield a supernatural influence.

What is the “supernatural”?

Ayietim:
So people right from the beginning of time, have alqays created God according to the supernatural influence they inherit, feel and perceive?

What is a “supernatural influence”?

Wilgrea7:
God is not a person.. or being.. it's a title given to beings that claim to have some sort of supernatural power or influence over certain aspects of the natural world.

And there have literally been thousands of such claims since the beginning of human civilization

Have you ever heard a god make a claim?’
Have you seen a god give instruction?

When they say that “god said”, do you see a god beside them nodding in agreement?

God(s) is nonsense or fiction if I’m being magnanimous.

budaatum:
I figured I'd check. I guess enough time has not passed.

Don’t hold your breath.

budaatum:
Do not ever have faith in buda please. Reserve that privilege for yourself.

You do love to ramble.

budaatum:
"Could" and "both" is a step forward and a vast improvement. You used to be so certain we were one. Soon the unknown will be known.

Otematum/Budaatum/whateveratum is a consummate liar. The freak really does enjoy bamboozling the simpletons around here. A peculiarly duplicitous person. The type to call others’ religious opinions “faith” while calling theirs “understanding”.

The statement is not a lie and you could be one and the same.

budaatum:
The question was not about whateveratum I am, but about whether you still believe I am the Otem you thought I was.

But don't you worry about answering if you don't want to. I'll just keep having faith in you.

You could be. Both Atums share similarities after all. I have no faith in you.

triplechoice:
Please let's behave like adults and no more insults.

That's your problem.

triplechoice:
The experiment may not succeed in achieving its goal and this is why.

Why? Because it's nonsense.

triplechoice:
Majority of people having NDEs or OBEs experience it spontaneously, meaning that they don't have control over the experience.

If majority experience NDE or OBEs spontaneously, there should be a minority who experience OBE willfully. Maybe the OBE started spontaneously with all of them, and a minority can exercise their will after they find themselves outside their body.

triplechoice:
Whatever happens outside the body is controlled by the strongest memories that grabs ones attention and that is what the person will drawn in to experience was consciousness expands outside the body

This statement is bullshit that appears to be a coherent sentence but says absolutely nothing.

triplechoice:
The best subjects for the experiment will be those who can do it at will and have control over what they experience. But such persons are rare to find, and from what I know they may not be willing to participate in what they would regard as a mundane exercise.

No, you won't find them because they don't exist.

triplechoice:
I have bookmarked a study group report that succeeded in using just one person who is able to to OBE at will. I will search and paste the link

Sure.

triplechoice:
For Now, let's wait the report for Aware11 and see if they have achieved more success than the first phase.

You wait, just don't hold your breath.

triplechoice:
This very Simple. The study report you brought claimed that certain neural mechanism is responsible for NDEs experience.. That was the reason you're were masturbating on it that it's lucid dreams,mind tricks.

Yes, neural mechanism( the brain) is responsible for NDEs. Masturbation or no masturbation.

triplechoice:
But new studies done to observe directly what goes on in the brain when people are having the experiemce didn't identify such neural mechanism causing it. .Only electrical charges was observed during this period and rhat is not the same as brain mechanism but effect of something going on that. is yet unknown.

Bla bla bla. When you find an NDE study that doesn’t rely on the brain, post it. Wallow in obscurantism all you want when the answered is right in your face. "yet unknown" my ass

Here's Parnia from 2008. Safe to say, NONE of the NDEs were able to identify the pictures.


"These observations have raised the intriguing – and controversial – possibility that the mind and consciousness may continue functioning after we have reached the point of death and the brain has shut down.
While an absolute impossibility to many scientists, for those who have experienced them and their respective doctors they are real. The key for science is to determine whether these experiences are illusions or whether they are real.
During AWARE, investigators will place images strategically in hospital bays, such that they will only be visible by looking down from the ceiling and nowhere else.
If after 36 months, hundreds of patients report being “out of body” yet no one can report seeing the images, then we must consider these reports to be nothing more than illusions.
If on the other hand there are hundreds of positive reports, then we will have to redefine our understanding of the mind and brain during clinical death.
For now though, only time will tell what the AWARE study will possibly reveal about our beginnings and our inevitable end."