₦airaland Forum

desiji:
We need to start discussing about alternative energy and how it can be cost effective than this Generators, Thinking about Solar array or a solar farm with the other Landlords a Solar farm would be ideal

I believe this is what we should be talking about

igwedehxy:
Pls somebody should help me out oo.... The omo Nile in my area said I should pay 100,000 to them for roofing a 2flat of 3 bedroom. Pls is this not too much. And if it is what should I do. Answer needed ASAP

where is you location, find out if those new laws that was just put in place to take care of those issues. Test the law, take advantage of it.

AngelicBeing:
Hajj Mufutau55, EgunMogaji, Lastpage, FastShipping, erico2k2, 3strikes, NL1960, Mavverick, kopell, Empiree and others l failed to mention, it is time to go acquire this apartment in the Middle East UAE - Dubai, it cost 30 Million Dollars / apartment, l watched it on the link below, it was fantastic it is mere 30 Million Dollars x 520 (black market rate ) = 1.56 Billion Naira.

Rotating skyscrapper


http://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai-in-line-for-worlds-first-rotating-skyscraper

I beg. many of us here are working class people with our kobo kobo project that take us couple of years to get to the stage they are. Na only Naija people they load those kind of money in bank and bury some of them in their houses without job or any business

dejavus:
Re: Whistle blowing, I am actually putting finishing touches to the details I have been collating regarding blowing the whistle on an ex-NNPC employee that I know, Good thing is, I will not pass the information to the government myself but rather through a proxy, I don't care if any incentives comes back to me because I can say the person to be whistle blown on is a family member so this is not a malicious effort but just angry at how everyone is complacent to this and we expect Nigeria to get better.

We all know these "Civil" servants who have multiple houses around the country with children in expensive schools abroad and even houses abroad. We all know their salaries are not adequate enough for this but no one speak about this but rather blame the government.

I just pray for Good Health for PMB to be able to better implement this initiative. Nigeria is completely rotten and no one seems to care.

PS: I don't live in naija but hope to do so full time at some point and it would be good to come back to a sane society at some point.

This is very interesting, just like family friend civil servant make just N85k monthly. These persons visit us in US during the last regime 6- 7 times yearly for 4 years straight, every time these person came around take taxi for over $200 on daily bases to get around city for shopping spending average of $600 a day. Its way so disturbing I have to stop her, visiting us anymore. I can believe since these new regime came aboard it's always complain when she call, she was not one of those big short in her ministry oh. Since this new government came in she's as not came down. Its seems something as change. Imagine what her general manager, directors, permanent secretary could be spending when the travel out of the country.

mufutau55:
Good info. But the Legendary Mr. Trumpcoat who happens to be a friend has been dead for over one year now. The family did not want it broadcasted then.
But Gbadexy is still here and have been supplying a lot of Nairalanders including myself.

Hajji M.

Inlilahi wainailehi rojiun, may almighty Allah forgive him and place him among the faithful, Amin. Hajji I though that was the guy that was painting one event center somewhere in Ikorodu some years back.

FastShipping:
I need a loan. How do I apply? Whoever building $100M house should Holla at your boy.

My brother you no need application for the loan, just get someone to take you to Engineer Yakubu county home in sabo tasha Kaduna south not far from NNPC Kaduna . A lot of dollars still dey there, with very low interest rate. You no need collateral, just tell them you're from EFCC office. I am sure you will walk out with bag full of dollar.

EgunMogaji:
I purposefully traveled mid-week, I had my truck delivered to Lagos on the way in and I drove down and there was zero traffic jams.

Construction is actively ongoing, workers are actually there doing work. I didn't take any pictures because it was rather uneventful.

That being said, I wouldn't drive it at night. So many construction dangers, lane switches, open pits all abound so on the way back I opted for a car hire.

Thank you, many times we are told work is on going in that axis. I drove through the road January last year on my way to Kwara state, second time in 25 years. I was surprised the road was better 25 years earlier. I ask myself where was the projects that we're told is on going all these years. Except some area that was done, some stretch left, continue again in other stretch's. I keep wondering why? Another big surprise to me was another road somewhere around Oshogbo, that we cut through from Ilobu to hit that short road. I saw another new road that I was told it constructed half way abandoned since Obasejo regime around Oyo that suppose to link Kwara State. Pls don't get me wrong oh. I'm not saying everywhere is bad, it's just my road trip experience to that end. I also saw some nice highway somewhere around Ibadan to Oshogbo and other places to Ilorin. May God help us Amin.

KolaShangOne:
Photo of the day...

what is that?

EgunMogaji:
Would have loved to meet you but I'm back in California to make more dollars. I'll be back soon in sha allah as I miss Ibadan die.

Ok now
Welcome back. Can you tell us some work progress U witnesse along lagos- Ibadan expressway reconstruction.

rotecch77:
@all, we thank God that some of nigeria made product are now acceptable by our people, range from, iron rod,doors, windows, paint, aluminum material, tiles etc.
But don't be deceived Nigeria made tiles are far difff from Spanish and any others European tiles but nearly close to China or almost same as China made in quality.but not all Nigeria made tiles that are OK,, don't be deceived that most Nigeria tiles are repack as Italy or Spanish tiles

Pls stop, people can buy what ever they like Spanish, China, Italy, America, Oshodi, Orile coker, Aba, if that is what they like good luck. No one is deceiving anybody here ok. What ever quality you are talking about, can never be more than what we see here everyday. I've seen 1single piece of 12 by12 inch tile selling for $85 each. All I am saying is we need to be proud of what we produced, and stop downgrading the Nigeria made products. We need to encourage them and patronized our products.

EgunMogaji:
Some will ridicule, some will grade/rate, etc, but the intent of postings this stuff is to share back to the group.

I decided to tile the garage apartment as opposed to continue to wait for an outfit that will agree to do a stained concrete floor for me. Incidentally when we finished the tiling my tiler then informed me that he also does stained concrete - aaarrrrggghhhhhhh

I bought tiles that are manufactured by the Chinese in Nigeria. I could have spent days lamenting on finding Italian, Sicillian tiles or whatever and at the end of the day finding out that they were made in Nigeria. My tiler, a Togolese, recommend these tiles, they call them Boko Haram, they are super thick comparable (a few still broke). The tiles are covered with a thin plastic film that is peeled off after install.

They are N4,500 per box of 4 (heard they were N3,000 a few weeks back )

If you are a disporian you can go to this facebook page https://www.facebook.com/nicemadeservices/photos/pcb.1207256662698198/1207255289365002/?type=3&theater to pick a design, note the model number (I chose G66025) and then shop online with vendors.

Of note is that at N4,500 they were not the cheapest, there're tiles of N2,000 per box out there even in this Buhari period

Also of note, there is a clear difference between plans made in the comfort of my air-conditioned home office in California versus the reality of having sweaty balls in Iwo Road Ibadan while arguing vehemently on price with Chucks

"GOODWILL CERAMIC COMPANY

GOODWILL Holding Group’s headquarters is located in Linhai city, Zhejiang provice; the Group’s business covers chemicals, with total assets of nearly 500 million yuan and annual sales of nearly 10 billion yuan. In Nigeria, GOODWILL ceramics factory is located in Guangdong free trade area, Ogun State. The scale of investment is 30 million USD; foreign employees is 500-1000, and daily production of ceramic tiles is 35,000 m2 making it Nigeria’s largest single production line."

Thank you Egun. When I wrote last week that my tiller hints me last year, that most of so called Spanish, Italy, tiles are actually made in Nigeria and repackaged as imported. Many may be daunting. Here is another one with headquarters in Ilorin. Pls see the quality for yourself http://padsonindustries.com/our-products/floor-tiles-for-sale-in-nigeria/

NL1960:
please can you post a closer shot of this fence. Iam interested in the block or type of block used. Is the block the normal 5inch or 6inch block.

I thought that was just a design on regular block.

back2sender:
Please has anyone bought spanish tiles of recent within last half of last year and this year so far? The tiles of which a carton contains 3pieces.
I need to know the amount at which it was bought back then, its for a projection am working on.
Thanks all in advance for your responses

Yes I did specifically last year October, there are to many tricks in tiles market. the tiles are sold by sizes. they will always try to sale to you with number of boxes or calculate more then you needed. Most of time the numbers of pies in the boxes are not accurate. make sure you calculate your total area multiply it with the size of your choice, always add 10% of your total required for brokerage. the prices depend on quality of what you want, the ones I bought were : 40 by 40cm, 8 pieces per box then is 3k. another one :40 by 40cm,12 pieces per box is 3800 the sizes per box I believe should be 12 pieces per box for 40by40, the others are 25by50 by 10mm thickness 15pieces. Pls pay attention to the thickness don't make them sale you 5mm thickness as the same price as 10mm and above. All above are of 10mm thickness, do your research about calculations all the information you need is in this forum. Sorry I don't care where it came from, I was told most of the tiles are made in Najia and repack as imported.

Flaghouse1:
True2home,

We cannot afford the luxury of wasting foreign exchange now, whether euro or dollar irrespective of the conversion factor or indices, to be candid with you despite the societal constraints we still have artisans that will give something close or better than the imported items we so crave for.

The attached picture is my sitting room furniture ,done by some guy in lagos since 2008, I doubt you will believe it's not imported, we have the manpower capacity to deliver quality goods and services but the government over the years has not provided the enabling environment to elevate us from the present state of under development we are in

my brother I beg get better camera, the picture no clear.

Flaghouse1:
True2home,

We cannot afford the luxury of wasting foreign exchange now, whether euro or dollar irrespective of the conversion factor or indices, to be candid with you despite the societal constraints we still have artisans that will give something close or better than the imported items we so crave for.

The attached picture is my sitting room furniture ,done by some guy in lagos since 2008, I doubt you will believe it's not imported, we have the manpower capacity to deliver quality goods and services but the government over the years has not provided the enabling environment to elevate us from the present state of under development we are in

my brother I beg get better camera, the picture no clear.

EgunMogaji:
The first specimen is N18,000 and the second is N5,000

The first one has tactile clicks that makes my knees weak.

Men you are doing good job, many of these guys will not show us those quality at those price. I find it difficulty to believe you actually buying all those in Ibadan.

EgunMogaji:
They make more

http://www.cdkindustriesng.com/sanitary-wares.html

Thanks Egun. The first time I had hint about locally made products was from my tiller. He said must of the tiles we used in Nigeria are locally made, packed them as imported. I was looking through this company product catalog couldn't believe their tiles are locally made. We need more of these locally made products webs links here.

EgunMogaji:
N70k for the set including drain and faucet.

An unarguably splurge.

Good job, is that the only WC design the company made locally

mufutau55:
Thank you very much sir. How much for the 3ft and 4ft?

Hajji M.

Hajji morning, like you're reading my mind. That is going to be my next question to him, I'm just waiting to save enough money one day I will honestly need his Service, these guy is good..

lafolabi:
Made in Nigeria door

Afo this is great, I love the combination of your tile design. This country is great if government can put things together for people to show there creativity, can anyone tell me why do we need to import doors and other little things that can easily made by road side welder. Imagine that door with other many little things like it. Imagine NNPC GMD hiding that huge amount of money is slum of Kaduna, while people are dying. Honestly we're our problem, when they try to prosecute him now. The same people that he stole there common wealth will start all kinds of stories about tribe and party affiliation. Thieves don't have tribe of affiliation they just thieves.

AngelicBeing:
My friends house was robbed in a similar pattern, they climbed his huge fence, entered the compound, removed the protector via the window, entered his flat, he was at work, his wife & 2 kids alone when the ugly incident happened, the wife was asked to lie down and should not shout, they robbed them, opened the front door / the main gate (both has burglary proof) and took all their loot and went away.

Nigeria is not safe at the moment, hunger, frustration, desperation, hopelessness has driven bad boys into crime, having all manner of security gadgets is good, but it does not dissuade determined criminals from robbing you, we have the 1 million robbery gang in lagos, they go in groups, well armed and they have wrecked havoc in several homes and sometimes they also rape women during their operation / carry soup & food items from your fridge during operation, effective neighborhood security / Opc guys + Police patrol might help to curtail crime + God Almighty if you subscribe to his protection or juju if that is what you believe in. Lol

Juju ke, short Gun, or semi automatic is better oh, automatic pump action gun 1click 15 bullets will do better job. Many of those guns are sold on street here like mama way the sale Akara on street there, if you know how to get one. Lol

diordaves:
To start with, is it a storey building? which I guess it is, please do a 40ft tower. You may have water pressure problem for upper flat(s) with 30ft.

The cost depends on the height and the carrying capacity of the tower. What is the size of "water containers" (tanks) and how many will be balanced on the tower?

With the current price increases N550K may just cut it.

I did over 40ft tower for 4 water tanks for N480K. See pic.

Guys pls let start doing things differently, these 40 to 80 tail thing is just to crazy in my opinion. Why can't us used portable pressurized pump tank, that one can regulate to what ever pressure as needed. Many of the pressure pumps are automatic that can came up anytime boot up pressure as needed.

gateleo:
Work still on going...we give God all the praises....

So far you've managed the cost efficiently good job, almighty will help you through Amin.
For those who are afraid to start, you can see for yourselves how the money is been managed. Put your mind to it. It's not that hard, cut off unnecessary things you don't need to focus your attention on it. It's can be done with time.

desiji:
Tiles for the BQ

How much those floor tiles cost now, how many pcs in the pack. I love those metal door
Designs. Where the locally made?

gateleo:
Front view of the building....3d ....this is what we are trying to achieve at the end though we have done some modifications due to the size of the land....

Very good nice design. Bold step, may almighty help you through good luck.

gateleo:
Also, want to say a big THANK YOU to our amicable Engineers in property section Spyder, Abdulwastecx, Rotecch, Segcymoor, Segzy14, Skimanski, architect Ihebrooke ,ohh my able Chairman Hajji Mufutau and others too numerous to list here. Im very much inspired by your work as they have guided me in this project. thus saving me cost. I appreciate you all.....

Welcome aboard, good job. If you don't mind, can you show us the 3D plan of the house?

allCopacetic:
stunning
very limited stock

Are these colorful bulbs LED, what was there wax, how much do the cost?

lastpage:
It appears you are mixing "Mr Buhari, a person who is the President of Nigeria"....... and 'The Federal govt of Nigeria" with Buhari as President.

Both are not the same thing!

The economic stagnation was actually caused by our over dependence on a mono-product economy which runs on Crude Oil.
Unfortunately, the price of that mono-product CRASHED to less than 20% of its value (from $110 to $23 per barrel) when Mr. Buhari assumed leadership.
Loosing 80% of our forex income (fall in Oil price) means we dont have money to finance/pay-for our "over-dependence" on IMPORTS.
There is NOTHING he could have done, no magic he could have wand, to prevent the slide into poverty.

But being the lazy bums we are, we still want to continue like "all is well" and everyone who is a trader/importer was shouting Buhari is not releasing Dollar, like Buhari kept the Dollar under his bed!
In actual fact, there was No Dollar to use in buying our frivolous imports!

Yes, the best way to get out of recession is to "spend your way out" but anyone can say that because it is actually Economics 101.
What seasoned Economist would tell you is that "You cant spend money you dont have"!
So, if you are broke, (No more money from receipts and income due to the crash in our source of income), where is the money you will use to "spend yourself out of recession", .........come from? You see, its easier said than done!

- You said he should have "gone borrowing immediately he assumed office!
This is very naive, to put it mildly!
No Sir, to borrow, Mr. President needs the APPROVAL of the National Assembly to approve such international borrowing.
On those dates you quoted, the NASS has not been constituted or at the very least will not have granted him any approval at such early stage of his administration.

Again, you just dont raise-up your hand and say "I need loan" and countries/bodies start bringing the money!
They will look at your economic road-map, so as to be sure they are either getting their money back or that you are spending the money on projects they can also gain from (Look at China: President made a trip to China, signed bilateral agreements and highlighted projects like rail and Roads that he wants to partner with China to do in Nigeria...... then he FINALLY asked China for a $30billion loan!
Which the NASS REFUSED to approve!
That is how it works..... in the real world!

- You said Buhari is one capital project per region and Budget was under-funded!
Do you even think these projects are free-funded.... or needs to be paid for?
Where is the money to pay for "many-project in many-regions simultaneously going to come from?
Do you not understand that a country is ran on MONEY (from exports, which Nigeria rarely does; from Receipts, which is down by 80%) and the money is just not there?
How do you fully fund your Budget when the money to do so is NOT AVAILABLE?
Does he go borrow to fund the budget also? Do you know the implication of this at all? Do oyu know how these loans affect the value of the National currency (we are not talking about an America that "manufactures its own currency and the rest of the world "buy" it nor are we talking of a China that "manufactures everything very cheaply" and sells it to everyone, including America!
We are talking about a Nigeria that manufactures nothing, exports nothing and imports everything.... at a time when its source of money has gone comatose!

- Let me also add that "when you "borrow externally", you are devaluing your currency".
Naira was already "self-devaluing" due to our dwindling Foreign Reserve (as a result of an over 80% decline in forex receipts, due to the fall in oil price!)

On the issue of trust:
This is one of the reason it took him time to find a finance Minister.
When you are faced with a Govt where people are callous enough to loot Money meant to prosecute a war, a war where your soldiers are being killed daily, a war where you are losing territory to terrorists..... yet those who are in-charge at the highest level of Govt think the best thing to do is to "share the money ala Dasuki-gate........... and you think there is no serious "trust deficit"?

I dont have to tell you that CORRUPTION is ingrained in our DNA and it is our greatest problem.
I dont have to tell you that if you put 10 Nigerians in a room, their greatest problem will be "How to trust each other".
How can "fantastically corrupt" people TRUST themselves? (We have Cameron for that statement because it is insulting but let us agree that there is a lot of truth in it)
Even YOU, have had very bitter experience about TRUST, on a small level, from the various people you entrust your project to! (I wont recant the tales here)
What l am saying is that Buhari was faced with a big problem of who he can trust, as to do the interest of the people, rather than serve their own pocket. Infact, if he was not "too trusting", he wont face some of the problems he is facing right now.

He trusted the CBN Governor to "mind the monetary policies" (I dont expect a retired Army General to be talking economics but l expect a trusted assistant like the CBN Governor to do it well.) ,,, but the guy was a somersault of a Governor.
Meanwhile, there is a law that prevents the Executive for sacking the CBN Governor willy-nilly. That was why Sanusi could get away with many things under Jonathan.
Same thing with the NNPC Director cum Oil Minister. These two personalities where the ones who produced most of the uncertainties in the system but we are quick to blame Buhari, either out of ignorance or outright mischief!

Let me add that l am just sorry that we Nigerians did not have to "experience the alternative" if for example Jonathan had continued in government or another looter was elected and it was "business as usual".
Most of us here have built a house in the last one-two years or still building, despite the very high inflation rate but l wish we were faced with the alternative like in Zimbabwe (when their currency was completely worthless and no one would accept it) or with a Somalia situation when the country became a failed state and it was "all man for himself".
I said "sorry" because we seems not to appreciate that God had just saved us from a major disaster which some of us might not have lived through! You can only build form Diaspora or locally, when there is a country.

*Buhari has and is gradually revitalising Agriculture through massive incentives (Never seen so many young people diverting to farming as of today!), loans in form of cash, farm inputs, e.t.c.
The results are beginning to show in areas like Rice Production (falling price from an all-time high that was caused by lack of Dollars to import as used to be the case). Tomato-scare has abated. The high price of food stuff we have as of today (when price should be gradually coming down) is as a result of sheer EXPLOITATION by hiking price (foodstuff sellers say they have to hike their own price too so as to compete with and justify the way other sellers hike their price! That is "the Nigerian" for you, irrespective of the "real cost" of the product/goods.).
With time, we will all see the benefits of this Govts Agric policies. Some Crops take a year just to mature!

*The Govt has been able to inject sanity and a bit of transparency into Governance.
You have Ministries now returning "unspent Budget", back into the National coffers (via TSA Account) whereas before now, You must finish any Unspent allocation/budget, by looting it!

*The Govt has shown 'balls' in tackling terrorism but for a big country like Nigeria, it is challenging.
Also, Terrorism does not disappear overnight, it is an ideology and can only be beaten down to a manageable level.
Even in America today, we still have pockets of terrorism but it is manageable.

*Gradually, the Govt is rehabilitating Roads that have been left undone for years (Lagos-Ibadan is one), at a pace we have not seen for decades.
*Our Armed Forces are begining to face what they are paid for: Protect the Nation's interest and we have seen their level of professionalism on the rise.
No more "Politicians-Armed Forces Officers". Discipline is being instigated in the Forces, equipment are being bought and deployed at a rate that has been alien in recent times.
* The Govt has systematically "dabbled-into and tackled corruption" in places that are "very dirty but hitherto, considered untouchable", like the Judiciary.
Now, we all have a feeling that if a Judge misbehaves or gets corrupted, (and they do so most times, in a very corrupt manner that nauseates the mind!), a common man can seek redress and the Judge can be punished. The 'idea' alone cannot be quantified in terms of what it means for the masses who dont have millions to swing a case the way they want

Let me stop here on what the Govt has done, as l am not their mouth-piece.

Finally, to say we are in a worse situation than we are in 2015, is reminiscent of thinking of a "single planar thought process" .... in terms of prices alone.

In the "Hierarchy of Pyramids", these sort of 'need' are said to be premordial and at the 'base-level' of human wants.

There are times when you dont have "cash" in your pocket but you are actually feeling very rich because of "what you have done with money".
Vice-versa, there are times when you can stuff a million in your Wallet and yet you know you are just living above the border-line!

Look at things from with a "long term perspective" - beyond how much things cost today - but at how much things will cost tomorrow (based on what the Govt is doing TODAY, that will have a bearing on TOMORROW" and How much it would have cost, if this Govt was not in-place.
Most of you have no clue at how bad our situation was, in 2015 and How miserable it would have gotten if we Nigerians have not made the "bold choice".
Most people who voted for Buhari dont really like him as a person but what they love about him is "What the country needs, at this trying times".

Infact, let us just thank God that we never experienced "How it would have been", if we did not change that Govt and vote a man that though "old-schooled, fragile and not overly exuberant", is a symbol of integrity for others to follow, commands the respect of the Armed Forces, have people that still believe in his long term vision .....and that he means and acts-well for this country.

How can we still compare Buhari's Govt to that of Jonathan, who presided over a Govt that earned the highest revenue on record, for five years, met the highest Foreign reserve on the kitty when taking over, yet left the highest debt profile, lowest foreign reserve and decayed infrastructures and a time-bomb of an economy, with the only earner for the country nose-diving and being sabotaged at every opportunity by militants ........... .


It is okay to just lament like the common (ignorant) man on the street because honestly prices are very high, but that is where it should end.


And that is why l said "except these comments were made hyperbolically"




Lastpage!

Some Editions done

Mr lastpage. I believe you have educate some of them enough. Mr A lay his argument the way he saw it, Mr B doesn't make any since in his argument or mind up his mind. Its could be ignorance of knowledge. very simple question I need to ask, if one loss 80% of his income, with commitment of 150% of his income. will he still be spending as if he as 180% income? with noting in savings.

earthrealm:
so big dilenmna,
hv a plot of land i hv been planning to develop in ph, but the rains last yr made me decide to wait till this ye/dry season.
now this wahala has started..i mean increase in price. really confused on what to do

delay the project and hope things will come down, and commence..believeing that things will get worse.
deep inside me...i feel it will get worse, as oil being our only source of forex
comments/advice needed pls

journey of million miles start with a step, now or later cycle of life remains unchanged. The houses our fathers build those days when cement was 25 kobo per bag, some of them then can't afford it. Imagine now that same comment was 2,500 people are building massive mansions. If cement go to 5k per bag, people will still be building. Think about it, make up your mind.

Demainman1:
I never insulted anyone abeg. Politics is the reason for current economic hardship which is evident in the daily rise in cost of materials.

will you please take your political view to politics section for God sake. We only discuss properties issue here, as you can see most people here are very humble in there opinions and exchange ideas. We're all gentle men and ladies of high intelligence.

Demainman1:
I remember that a lot of folks here supported this wonderful change from buhari and his APC people
Thank God we are all enjoying the change today.

By the time they finish with us ehn even to buy one block will be wahala.

take your political comment to politics section, you forget the oil was $130 per barrel them, today the same oil is less then $50. What do they do with the money then? sharing its between them self. that is the price you're paying today.

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It's getting scary by the minute. I called the same dealer who sold to me for N4,800 on Saturday and he swore he will sell for only N5,200 this morning. Na wahala be this ooo

Maybe we need to carry placards, but remember the government love for shooting unarmed protesters [/quote]Turn things around to what it used to be, Stop importing all those little things. I remember very well, in 90s all those little things where made in Nigeria. Fix the power issue every others thing will follow.