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PropertiesRe: . by kunlekunle: 7:49am On Feb 18, 2013
where can i get concrete paint and pigments, and exernal wood paint in lagos?
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 7:47am On Feb 18, 2013
obayaya: the fool took his time 2 make research on some other persons work and call him a liar. i have read many review on that book. better reviews with better points. the writer is obviously still deep in d ethnicity shit he is accusing achebe of. anyway, i recommend chimamanda adichie's review. achebe is and old man that witnessed d biafra war. the pains and sorrows of d war affected his writing. but he has every right to do that. this novel is just chinua achebe's view just like this trashy review is ur own view. except that u stooped so low as to slander the good old prof. i have my own view on d war too. you wanna hear it? here it goes...
that was just d beginning... watch out for civil war part 2.. lol grin
when you research and write history and events, you dont have a view, you tell it as it is.
in your part 2, we dont want fictions or your thoughts, ffffffaaaaccccttttssss please.
PoliticsRe: PHOTONEWS: Patience Jonathan's N500 Million "Resurrection" Thanksgiving Party by kunlekunle: 7:40am On Feb 18, 2013
MMotimo: Could somebody please put the young boy on a diet and/ or get him into active sports!! He does not look good!
he's actually on diet
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 6:06pm On Feb 16, 2013
Dede1: One advice I give to Nigerian scholars who navigate to Nairaland for intellectual exercise is not to accept Nowa Omoigui’s conjectural craps as gospel. In your replies to my post and that of hercules07, you seemed to load up on Nowa Omoigui’s junk.

Let me make it clear that Dr Biobaku was not a senior lecturer, associate professor or tenured professor. The only qualifications he had in pursuit of VC were being Omo Yoruba, political love peddler and tribal politics which Yoruba peeps chased unashamedly. I guess you know the reason behind assassination attempt on Dr Biobaku.

Now, let me call your attention to the responses you gave to hercules07 posts where you the laid the rope you used to hang your political credibility.

In one instance, you stated that “Chief Okotie-Eboh as the only non-Igbo N.C.N.C. Minister in the cabinet”. In another instance, there were Chief J.M. Johnson, Chief Olu Akinfosile and Ola Balogun as ministers. The last time I checked though, Chiefs J.M. Johnson, Olu Akinfosile and Ola Balogun were not Igbo.

It is very laughable how you narrated Akintola’s niche to run to his master, Ahmadu Bello, to plead for peanuts. In addition, it is equally nice to read from you that Yoruba sought tribalism over merit in Nigeria. When Yoruba longed for any position in Nigeria, the process is codenamed fairness but when it is the turn for Igbo the process becomes Igbo domination.

I have consistently reminded Igbo people, especially the deluded jackasses, that an apple does not fall far from the tree. The Yoruba of yesteryears are the Yoruba of tomorrow.
You are mixing issues up,
the first coalition was NPC and NCNC, the second was NPC, NCNC, NNDP.
the southern ministerial positions were occupied by NCNC with some positions for yourube NCNC.
Akintola's arguement was those NCNC yoruba guys wont reflect anything SW, so the southern positions were shared between NCNC and NNDP which created political acrimony that akintole hated the ibos.

take it or leave it.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 11:45am On Feb 16, 2013
hercules07: That was in name only, the NPC had the west through Akintola someone who hated Awo the same, hated the Igbos too, they could continue to use the NCNC as a front while Akintola's party checkmated NCNC in the west.
As you rightly agreed, it was a coalition govt of three parties.
eight ministerial positions were given to the south and NCNC took all posts.
Akintolas arguement was that the western seats can not be allocated to the yorubas of NCNC, it should be allocated to the NNDP of yorubas in the west.
when the cabinet was reshoveled you guy shouted Alkintola hated ibos.


'On the other hand, we had the Southern Ministers
Chief K.O. Mbadiwe, Hon. R.A. Njoku, Chief Aja
Nwachukwu, Chief Festus Okotie-Eboh, Chief T.O.S.
Benson, Chief J.M. Johnson and Chief Olu Akinfosile;
all of them with the exception of Hon. Aja Nwachukwu
who took great pains to keep you alive to the fact
that they were ministers

the N.C.N.C had appropriated
the Yoruba share. Chief T.O.S. Benson, Chief Olu
Akinfosile and Chief J.M. Johnson in charge of the
portfolios that rightfully belonged to Western Nigeria
were not true and legitimate representatives of the
people of that region."
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 11:38am On Feb 16, 2013
hercules07: That was in name only, the NPC had the west through Akintola someone who hated Awo the same, hated the Igbos too, they could continue to use the NCNC as a front while Akintola's party checkmated NCNC in the west.
It was these acts to give the Yorubas their fair share
of federal patronage that made the Ibos block Chief
Akinjide's nomination into Alhaji Shehu Shagari's
cabinet and he had to be presented a second time
before he got the approval of the Senate.

At the time when negotiations were going on to form
the government that would usher in independence, Dr.
Nnamdi Azikiwe described himself and his party the
N.C.N.C. as the beautiful bride being wooed by the
other political parties

The N.C.N.C. accepted the suit of the N.P.C. and
received as dowry the right to consume Western
Nigeria's share of the national cake even though it
did not represent the people of Western Nigeria in the
federal parliament. The N.C.N.C. discovered after
Awolowo's political incapacitation that Chief S.L.
Akintola was a tougher nut to crack than Chief Awolowo
and decided to make the West ungovernable for him.

The assassination attempt on Professor Biobaku was in
line with the operation wetie" mayhem going on all
over Western Nigeria in which human beings were being
doused with petrol and set ablaze. Those dastardly
acts were being perpetrated by Yorubas, but the
perpetrators, their organizers and co-ordinators were
being funded by the government of Eastern Nigeria
under Dr. Michael Okpara, according to intelligence
reports available to the Western Nigerian government.

I was also given a story to surreptitiously leak to
the Press. It concerned the attempt to remove Chief
Festus Okotie-Eboh as Federal Minister of Finance and
replace him with Chief K.O. Mbadiwe. When the Western
Nigeria share of the Federal cabinet was allocated to
the N.N.D.P., the number of N.C.N.C. Ministers was
reduced from eight to five with Chief Okotie-Eboh as
the only non-Tho N.C.N.C. Minister in the cabinet. The
N.C.N.C. had believed that with its representation in
the federal cabinet reduced, to place the important
Finance Ministry in an Igbo hand was a desideratum; in
other words, Chief Festus Okotie Eboh not being an
Igbo man was a second class N.C.N.Cer.

The N.C.N.C. requested Sir Abubakar to reshuffle the
cabinet so that Chief Okotie-Eboh and Dr Mbadiwe
could swap places. An enraged Chief Okotie-Eboh with
the solid backing of N.N.D.P. ministers strongly
opposed that move. Chief Akintola took it upon himself
to go up North and appeal to Sir Ahmadu Bello to
prevail on Sir Abubakar to reject the N.C.N.C.
request. The refusal of Chief Okotie-Eboh to surrender
the Ministry of Finance to Dr K.O. Mbadiwe was a sin
so grievious in the opinion of the N.C.N.C. that he
was killed alongside Yoruba and Northern leaders in
January 1966.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 11:37am On Feb 16, 2013
Dede1: I hope you understood how the parliamentary government operates. There was no party with outright majority and the two high earners of the votes were NPC and NCNC hence the coalition government. NCNC retained its number of ministerial appointments and also held the position of ranking minister. House was full of members with different party affiliations.
At that time, there was a profusion of eminent
scholars and educationists of Southern Nigerian
origin. There were two federal government universities
in Ibadan and Lagos. Professor Kenneth Dike was Vice
Chancellor at Ibadan while Eni Njoku held court in
Lagos.

An equitable sharing of the national cake would have
prevented a situation where these two federal
universities were manned by persons of the same tribe,
moreso as Professor Saburi Biobaku was as good if not
better than the incumbents at Lagos and Ibadan
universities.

It was not as if Chief Biobaku's appointment would
have made Eni-Njoku jobless. Professor Biobaku had
been released by the Federal Government to go and head
a university in East Africa and Chief Eni Njoku was
only being redeployed to take up the East African job
so as to give meaning to the principle of federal
character which is still in our constitution as I
write.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 5:23am On Feb 15, 2013
lagcity: The indefatigable Mr Dede grin grin I like this man, he never shies away from a fight. The one and only energizer bunny of Nairaland grin He must have been very troublesome during his youth. cheesy Give em hell, Dede! cheesy
no mind am, soon he'll do an ojukwu aka HUSEIN BOLT
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 8:33pm On Feb 14, 2013
Dede1: Ojukwu was always magnanimous and equally sarcastic in every statement he altered to the press during and after the war. Typical example was a statement such as “president Nigeria never had”. When I said a coward will die 10 miserable deaths before the actual death, I meant every word.

Awolowo displayed the inherent niche for cowardice and total ignorance on military issues when he allegedly claimed that western region was occupied by 35,000 soldiers. This is ridiculously laughable. I doff my heart for loudmouth antics of Yoruba peep. In 1966, Nigeria had two considerable less in strength Brigades and other formations such Recce and Garrison Organization.

A standard battalion takes at least 500 men. The 2nd brigade in the southern Nigeria comprised three battalions namely 1st battalion in Enugu, 2nd Battalion Ikeja and 4th Battalion Abeokwuta. There were small formations such as Recce and Garrison organization at Lagos and Ibadan. It takes at least 500 men to form a battalion. In case of Nigeria in 1966, the battalions were considerable undermanned.

For posterity sake, let me allot the number of full battalion to 2nd and 4th which sum up to 1000 men. Since both the Recce and two Garrisons are smaller formations than battalion, I shall be generous in granting 1000 men to the combined formations. Now those of you who studied mathematics, can 2000 men translate into 35,000 armed men? Bear in mind also that another battalion that made up the 2nd Brigade was 1st Battalion at Enugu with at least 500 men.
since you are a better Igbo fictional historian, kindly assist me to confirm how authentic this piece is

As part of the exclusive revelations from the 21,000 pages of US documents on the Nigeria-Biafra war, Richard Akinjide the Ibadan lawyer and Nnamdi Azikiwe, the former president of Nigeria told the American consul Mr Strong in Ibadan what that they thought of Ojukwu: Akinjide said: “Ojukwu suffers from Hitler-like megalomania.” He explained that Ojukwu was rejected as a child because he was an offspring of a mistress his father Sir Louis Ojukwu acquired in one of his business trips to the North. The father, a devout catholic, refused to accept the pregnancy that led to Ojukwu was his alone; other mysterious forces may have been at work. So he did not recognise Ojukwu nor took him into his home. Instead he sent the mother and the baby back to the North where the mother made her living as a trader and where the boy was born. Ojukwu like Nnamdi Azikiwe, was born in Zungeru. As the boy grew up, friends of the business mogul prevailed on him to recognise the boy as his own son. He then agreed to do so but the boy was something of an embarrassment so he sent him off to school in England where the boy eventually made it into Oxford University.

Akinjide, the former NNDP politician said “he knew Ojukwu well” when he was a federal minister under Tafawa Balewa. He continued: “When Ojukwu returned back to Nigeria he tried to get a job with the Nigerian Tobacco Company (NTC) but was turned down. Akinjide speculated on how Nigerian history might have been different if NTC had given Ojukwu a job. “Instead he drifted into civil service and was given a post as Assistant District Officer at a bush post in the East. He was unhappy in this position,” Akinjide said because he felt his talents were not recognised. Seeking a better road to power and influence he joined the Nigerian army and because of his good educational background, he was soon sent to the elite Royal Academy Sandhurst in the UK.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 6:19pm On Feb 14, 2013
Dede1: These are pure nonsensical conjures that have no place in history. It is funny a coward is acting like a coward and still insists he\she is not a coward. There was one military governor in western region. A military governor does not have a battalion of orderlies. Again, it was an act of inherent loudmouth employed by turncoats.
culled from the last meeting between Awolow and ojukwu.

Ikemba: I started off this struggle in July with 120 rifles to defend
the entirety of the East. I took my stand knowing fully well
that by doing so, whilst carving my name in history, I was
signing also my death warrant.


what sane person would start a war with 120 rifles.
To me he sacrificed the biafrans.

Another person said, my land is occupied bt 35,000 armed soldiers, i need to apply wisdom, his decision saved the yorubas and you saw the brave one that did HUSEIN BOLT.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 2:32pm On Feb 14, 2013
Dede1: I do not know any Biafran who is clamoring for the healing of civil war wounds. The war has been fought, lost and indelible enemies made. I do not care how anybody tries to slice the civil war it shall remain a mirror before us and reflects the scars from the war. The intellectual tonic surrounding the civil war has been adulterated by tribalism. The only way to bury the hatchet is to disintegrate the Nigeria so that citizens of different nation states out of dismembered Nigeria can channel the brazen hatred for each other into productive energy geared towards mutual competition.

Those who cherished Awolowo’s crafted policies of starvation and 20 naira can build a park for his remembrance. The followers of Gowon will erect life-size statue to memorialize Go-On-With-One -Nigeria. In the other hand, those who cherished the efforts of Biafrans could build parks and monuments for the fallen Biafrans and dedicate a week to mourn and remember them. In so doing, nobody shall give hoot what the others are doing across the border.
Awolowo's reponse to ojukwus question about the west joining the course

[size=14pt]if this is cowardice kudos to the president nigeria never had[/size][

Well, I must say
that a number of factors have been overlooked in this regard.
I would be quite willing to attend any meeting convened by the
leaders of the South in the South, but it must be realized
that we in the West are in a very difficult position. All the
members of the bodyguard of the Military Governor of the Western
Region were Northerners; there were over 36,000 soldiers in
the whole of the West, most of whom were Northerners, and all of
them carry arms


You are remote from the
West; you have advantages which we do not possess. We cannot
rush without rushing to our death at the same time. We are not
cowards in the West but we have to move cautiously
, because if
we do not do that you might not have us alive; you would only
have monuments all over the place.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 2:23pm On Feb 14, 2013
Dede1: The above post is one of the series of conjectural craps cull from Nowa Omoigiu's figments of imagination. Is it not inherently moronic to term anything that mainly consisted of imaginary figures from western, midwestern and eastern regions without even a doorman from northern region as “National Conciliation Committee”?
you are another fictional historian like Achebe.
my advice stop distorting history.
PoliticsRe: Prof Achebe's "There Was A Country" Is Meticulously Torn Apart & Shredded by kunlekunle: 3:36pm On Feb 13, 2013
[size=14pt]a word is enough for the wise......
minutes of the meeting between Awo and Ojukwu[/size]

Here is the true account of what took place as taken from scripts
of the discussion between Papa and Chief Ojukwu (the Ikemba). The
discussion was taped by the Ikemba and the recorder was captured after
Enugu fell.

On Saturday, May 6, 1967, at 5.15 pm, a meeting began to take place,
at the State House, Enugu, between the then Excellency, Lt. Col.
Odumegwu Ojukwu (the Ikemba) and a delegation of the National
Conciliation Committee (Committee) led by the most Honorable Chief
Obafemi Awolowo. The Committee was represented by Professor Samuel
Aluko, Chief Mariere, Chief J.I. Onyia, while the Eastern Region was
represented by Lt. Col Imo, Lt. Col Effiong, Lt. Col. Kurubo, Mr. C.O
Mojekwu, Mr. N.U. Akpan, Professor Eni Njoku, Dr. Nwakanma Okoro,
Dr. P.N.C. Okigbo, Mr. C.A. Onyegbale and Mr. Ndem with the Ikemba
presiding over the meeting. The names are listed for the purpose
of verification of facts presented herein below with those of them who
may still be alive..............
.......
Papa: The main concern of these delegates is to ensure that Nigeria
does not disintegrate, and I would like to see Nigeria bound
together by any bond because it is better than breaking the
whole place up because each unit will be the loser for it.
The economy of the country is so integrated that it is too late
in the day to try and sever them without risking the death of
one or both of them. So we have come, therefore, to appeal
to you to let Eastern representatives attend the meeting of
the Committee (ON-GOING NATIONAL CONCILIATION MEETING)
I do not want to put myself in a position where I will be treated
as an advocate of the Eastern cause. Let the Eastern delegates
go there, make their case and then as a member of the Committee
I will get up and say I support this entirely. If at the meeting
the East and West present what they want for a new Nigeria
whether temporarily or permanently, and the North says "no,
we are not going to have it", I will go out and address a
World Press Conference and send our case to that body and say
this is what we have done and the North has turned it down.
I will then take any step that is necessary to bring into effect
what we want. The North needed to be in a position of being
presented with the United front of the South.

Ikemba: I started off this struggle in July with 120 rifles to defend
the entirety of the East. I took my stand knowing fully well
that by doing so, whilst carving my name in history, I was
signing also my death warrant. But I took it because I believe
that this stand is vital to the survival of the South. I
appealed for settlement quietly because I understood that
this was a Unclad struggle for power and that the only time
we can sit down and decide the future of Nigeria on basis
of equality will always be equality of arms. Quietly, I
built up. If you do not know it, I am proud, and my officers
are proud, that here in the East we possess the biggest
army in Black Africa. I am no longer speaking as an underdog,
I am speaking from a position of power. The only
way for the
South to present a united front is for the South to meet and
hammer out that united front. It is a point which must be
cleared first before proceeding to make a statement of whatever
it is. That is why to my mind, at the present stage of the
crisis the ideal thing is for the Southern people to meet
in any platform and discuss and hammer out any difference
they might have because I will have nothing to do with the North.
Then going further, it would then mean that to do this the South
to meet; because if we wait for their permission, we will
wait for ever. On the specific question of whether there is
a possibility of contract with the North, the answer is at the
battle field.

Papa: I do appreciate the points you have made, especially the suggestion
the South could take the bull by the horns, convene a meeting
of its leaders and work out its salvation. Well, I must say
that a number of factors have been overlooked in this regard.
I would be quite willing to attend any meeting convened by the
leaders of the South in the South, but it must be realized
that we in the West are in a very difficult position. All the
members of the bodyguard of the Military Governor of the Western
Region were Northerners; there were over 36,000 soldiers in
the whole of the West, most of whom were Northerners, and all of
them carry arms..... I led a delegation to Lt. Col. Gowon on the
7th and at that interview I made it clear on behalf of the West
that if the soldiers of Northern origin were not removed from
the West we would not attend any further meetings of the Ad Hoc
Committee. He said he would do something, of course he did not.
We passed our resolution (THAT THE NORTHERN SOLDIERS SHOULD BE
REMOVED FROM THE WEST) and Col. Adebayo did very well and give
us certain Yoruba officers with whom to go and deliver the
petition to Lt. Col. Gowon. I did give him an ultimatum up
to the 15th of May to remove these Northern soldiers from the
West. Of course, he agreed to remove them by the 31st of May
but the time we returned to Ibadan Northern soldiers had taken
up arms and wanted to kill me, to kill Adebayo and all others.
Just now Adebayo does not sleep in his house. Somebody told
me that he has not been sleeping in his house. I know why they
put two policemen with two rifles in front of my house the other
day. Of course, I rang up and said I wanted them removed. There
were policemen in front of Sardauna's house but they did not save
him. The populace, of course, turned against the Northern
soldiers. I don't know why Adebayo should issue the release
that soldiers should not be taunted. But this is the way we
have been doing our quiet fighting. You are remote from the
West; you have advantages which we do not possess. We cannot
rush without rushing to our death at the same time. We are not
cowards in the West but we have to move cautiously, because if
we do not do that you might not have us alive; you would only
have monuments all over the place.
And I may say in this connection of Southern solidarity -- I am
sorry to go into what has happened in the past -- in 1953 there
was an understanding between the banned NCNC and the banned
Action Group; we entered into an agreement, which I hope we will
use sometime, to the effect that if the North remained intransigent
we would declare a Southern Dominion. This was signed by myself
and Zik and I still stand by it; but we prefer that you should
send your delegates to this meeting, so that we should, known
to everyone, enter into negotiations among ourselves and present
a common front to the North. Then nobody can accuse us of
conspiracy or trying to divide the country into two parts. I
want you to look at it from our point of view. If there were
no Northern soldiers in the West the position would be different.
And even if by the time I return home the Northern soldiers have
gone I still do not want to be accused of perfidy. The issue
at hand is not enough for us to say that we do not like the North.
That is a negative approach. I think a positive approach will
be for us to meet. Unity will last only if it is based on common
understanding among us and the basis will start at this meeting.
As I said before, I want you to give me a chance of meeting
your people regularly. Let us reolve our differences and
get what we want and quickly too.

Ikemba: If the reason is to get a platform for a meeting between the
Southern leaders, I agree very much that we should try and find
a platform and here we seem to be presented with a fait accompli.
The Southern leaders are here now, so the main thing is to go
on and discuss.

Papa: It will be something near fraud for us to sit down here and
discuss in terms of the South especially as this delegation was
sent here by a body consisting of the Northern delegation....

Ikemba: Now coming to the wider question of the East attending, if it
is a Reconciliation COmmittee then it must be reconciling warring
parties. A Reconciliation Committee can not have the parties
within, somehow, it does not work, unless, of course, they have
already agreed on the major issues, because reconciliation
is to stay in the middle of the warring parties. And one thing
is so clear in the Nigerian situation: certainly the North
and the East are warring. For any Reconciliation Committee to
do justice to the East, it should not have Easterners and
Northerners
in it. That is one point. How does the Reconciliation Committee
expect us to go to Lagos ? Can you, Sir, imagine Sir Kashim
Ibrahim coming to the East to meet and discuss ? The critical
point of the Eastern stand is that the East cannot go to any place
where there are Northern troops. That tells his own story.
The North has made it abundantly clear that no association
if they are not controlling the central machinery, is acceptable
to them. Even in the face of the resolutions of the South,
the Emirs, feudalist Emirs, had the audacity to dictate to the
South; first that they will not allow the Northern troops to leave
the West until they are satisfied that the West has got sufficient
troops.

Papa: You have talked about Easterners and Northerners trying to go to
the same meeting and bringing about reconciliation because they
are the two warring parties. I do not think the fight is between
the East and the North alone. It affects all other parts of the
country save that there is no quarrel between the East and the
West and Mid-West. The fight involves all of us. The West
at this moment, has its own complaints against the North. The fact
that we went there particularly so soon after my withdrawal
from the Ad Hoc Constitutional Committee, which I observed was
set up by the Federal Government to wage war against the East
instead of trying to put things in check, must assure you that
we are resolved to find a solution to this.
You have also spoken about Lagos or anywhere in the West as
unsafe for the Easterners to hold a meeting. Nobody can
tell when life will be lost, but I think, speaking the minds of
entire people of Western Nigeria and Mid-Western Nigeria, that if
anybody can at this stage take the life of an Ibo man or an
Easterner, or if any outstanding Eastern loses his life by the
act of someone else, the whole of the Western Region and the
Mid-Western Region will take it as the end of Nigeria. I
can give that assurance on behalf of Western Nigeria and Lagos."

[End of all the Awo-Ojukwu quotations in the excerpt - Mr. Lanre
Banjo continues:]

This meeting was concluded on Sunday, 7th of May at about 2.15 pm with the
hope to reconvene and with the Ikemba maintaining that the South must
first meet. Before I go further, it would be noted that the Ikemba's view
was maintained due to hindsight (sic: LACK OF FORESIGHT). First, Papa
has just been released from prison for a charge of treasonable felony.
Secondly, he was in Enugu representing the Nigerian National Conciliation
Committee. How could Ikemba expect him to chage and focus on Southern
plan of pulling out of Nigeria ? Papa was more principled than that.
Even prior to his meeting with the Ikemba, he had been falsely accused
of having teamed up with the Ikemba in his campaign against the Federal
Military Government by being in regular touch with him by phone calls
and personal visits to Enugu, to perfect their joint plans. That he had
been sending Professor Aluko and others to Enugu for illegal guerrilla
training. Given this situation, a sudden change to discuss how the South
will unite against the North will definitely confirm the dreadful
and blatant accusations already levelled against him............."
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[size=14pt]PDP Vs NIGERIANS[/size]

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still thinking

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US president better
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were the 3 million offered to aro chukwu just like the 50 in the river 2 weeks back?
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france
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GEJ was not responsible for naija problems, he should know what he went into before contesting that the system needs fixing.
if he doesnt give a damn, you judge him
He's better off as a trainee which you omitted.
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not a personal issue simply political.

politics 101
you are not my friend, i can work with you
you are my friend, i cant work with you.
PoliticsRe: All Progressive Congress (APC) Party: ANPP, CPC, ACN And APGA Finally Merged by kunlekunle: 5:44am On Feb 07, 2013
goodluck to them
they need patience to work together
PoliticsRe: Fashola Opposes Geo-political Zones, Autonomy For Councils by kunlekunle: 12:28pm On Feb 05, 2013
Tony Spike: What I can see in this map is the entity called Lagos colony and protectorate, which later became the Western Region. Did you look at the map properly before posting it at all? By the way, Lagos in pre-1900 likely refers to the enclaves of Lagos-Island, and by extension Victoria Island and other adjacent coastal territories. I very much doubt that Lagos Mainland was part of the Lagos colony back then, I may be wrong though...
lagos was a colony because it was conquered by the british,
the rest of the western region was called protectorate (to protect from outside invaders) so an agreement was signed to effect this.

western region started from jibowu ---- why that bridge from jibowu linking abati barracks to ojuelegba was called western avenue.
SportsRe: Caption This Photo by kunlekunle: 10:02am On Feb 05, 2013
i dey get old, make we swap leg
SportsRe: Emmanuel Eboue Apologises and Congratulates Nigerians by kunlekunle: 10:01am On Feb 05, 2013
u can have an elephant BBQ, no gragra
PoliticsRe: Fashola Opposes Geo-political Zones, Autonomy For Councils by kunlekunle: 4:58am On Feb 05, 2013
Prof Corruption: There is nothing like autonomy for local governments. There is a clear difference between tiers of government and recognized federating units. Let each state/region be a true federating unit and based on their individual separate constitutions design the LG system suitable for them. State A may prefer a parliamentary LG while B a presidential. State C may even make traditional ruler automatic head of its councils. Let each state determines the structure that best suits its idiosyncrasies.
how do we define nigeria politically?
if states practices 4-5 political systems, na ojuelegba democracy.
(confusion)
SportsRe: Caption This Picture Of Ivorian Players by kunlekunle: 7:08pm On Feb 04, 2013
missed super fried eagles with chips and drinks
PoliticsRe: "Is The Amalgamation Of Northern And Southern Nigeria A Mistake" by kunlekunle: 10:43am On Feb 02, 2013
dumjoshua: ENAHORO said in early 50"s that the almagamation of north and south is a mistake,my fellow nigerians after so many years can we prove him wrong or right
if you realise you have a problem 50 yrs back and it still persists for another 50yrs, you have a problem.
Foreign AffairsRe: Blacks Are Educated To Feel Inferior - Dr Bedford Umez by kunlekunle: 10:27am On Feb 02, 2013
iebelieve: @braine, this is No theories....its so really..and i totally agree with d school of thought....
Dr. Umez's thoughts have historical proves.there is a document called d mandate dat was supposedly given to all d first african missionaries of the 1890s..and it was carelessly misplaved by one of d misionaries in kenya.........: d document in synopsis states:
1.teach them(africans) to read and not to reason.
2.teach them to focus and keep lookng unto the sky and neva into d ground
3. Teach them to believe in a supreme God and not their gods...
ETC etc
Inother words, d whites or colonial masters used religion to tactically get into d blackman land, they just taught our grand fore fathers to read, and dat was mainly the bible.they taught d 3Rs ...Read, Write and aRithmetics.....while our grandfore fathers exerted all their energies studyng the bible, d whites excerted all their energies developing scientifically.if u observe careful, most of the worlds invention were in d 1890 to the 1900s....
Til today, our schl curricum is built by them, evaluated by their methods and so on...and this is why there is a great difference bwteen our schls and theirs.

I 've d copy of the mandate in my inbox...i can send it to u if u're interested.....

@caps: if u 've any means of linking to Dr, umes, pls let me knw..i did like to follow and contribute my tots on hw to reshape d brainwashed minds of africans.
google ARISTOTLE essay on knowledge, study it, you'll be ok.
Foreign AffairsRe: Blacks Are Educated To Feel Inferior - Dr Bedford Umez by kunlekunle: 10:24am On Feb 02, 2013
iebelieve: @braine, this is No theories....its so really..and i totally agree with d school of thought....
Dr. Umez's thoughts have historical proves.there is a document called d mandate dat was supposedly given to all d first african missionaries of the 1890s..and it was carelessly misplaved by one of d misionaries in kenya.........: d document in synopsis states:
1.teach them(africans) to read and not to reason.
2.teach them to focus and keep lookng unto the sky and neva into d ground
3. Teach them to believe in a supreme God and not their gods...
ETC etc
Inother words, d whites or colonial masters used religion to tactically get into d blackman land, they just taught our grand fore fathers to read, and dat was mainly the bible.they taught d 3Rs ...Read, Write and aRithmetics.....while our grandfore fathers exerted all their energies studyng the bible, d whites excerted all their energies developing scientifically.if u observe careful, most of the worlds invention were in d 1890 to the 1900s....
Til today, our schl curricum is built by them, evaluated by their methods and so on...and this is why there is a great difference bwteen our schls and theirs.



try and google ARISTOTLE essay on knowlegde.
you understand better.

I 've d copy of the mandate in my inbox...i can send it to u if u're interested.....

@caps: if u 've any means of linking to Dr, umes, pls let me knw..i did like to follow and contribute my tots on hw to reshape d brainwashed minds of africans.
PoliticsRe: Panic In Presidency Over Mounting Tension In Military - Talk Of Mutiny? by kunlekunle: 5:08am On Feb 01, 2013
Negro_Ntns: i didnt want to post on this thread but i have to now.

@onlytruth,

as a nation we've been here before. what holds the military together and unique from other facets of our nationalism is the espirit de corps of the soldiers and their discipline and fraternity across ethnic line. tthat bond is expected and it happens naturally because they have privileges and spoils that are not available to the civilian. that chain of brotherhood broke in 66.

the spirit was further damaged and completely soiled by actions and inactions of ironsi., followed by the tipped promotions in favor of igbo and the subsequent loss of trust in military and politics.

fast forward to today...similar settings!

1. civilian president of eastern origin and vp of northern origin
2. coas of eastern origin
3. promotions tipping towards igbo
4. recruitment and positioning of igbos in civil service and agencies
5. turmoil and state of emergency in wild wild NORTH, instead of wild wild WEST
6. we are deployed in MALI instead of CONGO

....i believe you got the picture!

when these guys come home from Mali, fresh from confrontation they will test the government. grievances and perceptions need to be clean, not pregnant with accusations against igbo.

....wath your steps!
the list of ironsi newly appointed officers

Yakubu Chinwa Gowon, the most senior surviving northern officer, who was in the process of assuming command of the 2nd Battalion at Ikeja on January 14/15, a unit which proved critical to restoration of order in Lagos, was made Chief of Staff (Army).


Other early military appointments include:


Chief of Staff (NAF),Lt. Col.George Kurubo (East, non-Igbo)


Commanding Officer, 2 Bde, Lt. Col. H. Njoku (East, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, 2 Bn, Major H. Igboba (Midwest, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, Abeokuta Garrison, Major G. Okonweze (Midwest, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, 4 Bn, Major Nzefili (Midwest, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, Federal Guards, Major Ochei (Midwest, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, 1 Bn, Major D. Ogunewe (East, Igbo)


Commanding Officer, 1 Bde, Lt. ColW. Bassey (East, non-Igbo)

Commanding Officer, 3 Bn, Major Okoro (East, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, Depot, Major F. Akagha (East, Igbo)

Commanding Officer, 5 Bn,Major M. Shuwa (North)
PoliticsRe: Innoson Vehicles Complains Of Low Govt Patronage! by kunlekunle: 1:25pm On Jan 30, 2013
Sincere 9gerian: Ethnic sentiments cannot be ruled out. For instance has the Lagos state govt ever patronised Innoson?
you should ask GEJ why he chose to buy transport vehicles meant for the subsidy abroad.

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