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Politics › Re: Chief Obafemi Awolowo: National Hero Or Villain? by laudate: 1:10pm On Aug 21, 2007
babasin:
where is the most developed region of Nigeria? Yorubaland.

If each region has its tribal leader for 10yrs each; Nigeria would be well developed

Nigeria does not exist in air; it is made of regions

You focus on what will bring most postivie impact.

grin cool
I beg to disagree. What makes you think that Yoruba land is the most developed part of Nigeria?? Please Yoruba land is not more developed or less developed than other parts of Naija o! Don't use Lagos and Ibadan soleley as your yardstick for assessing development in Yoruba land. Go to each state & each local govt. area in the entire south-West, before you jump to conclusions. Nigerian leaders and their cohorts have jointly under-developed ALL parts of this country, including Yoruba land.

Take a journey from Ila Orangun, to Gbogan, Aiyetoro, Ikare, Efon Alaye, Ijede, Omuo-Ekiti, Sapati, Ife, Ilaje Ese-Odo etc. before you draw any conclusions. Some communities do not have drinking water or electricity, till today, even as we speak.
Travel › Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian! by laudate: 3:55pm On Aug 20, 2007
k0be:
Those who visit foreign nations, but associate only with their own country-men, change their climate, but not their customs. They see new meridians, but the same men; and with heads as empty as their pockets, return home with traveled bodies, but untravelled minds.
Charles Caleb Colton
WORD!!! Pre-ee-each it, bro'. wink
Politics › Re: Igbos! What To Do With Laudate, Dimka, Batu And Other Knaves Of Like Minds by laudate: 3:41pm On Aug 20, 2007
k0be:
laudate no mind them, na jealousy. they understand the dull nature of the stereotypical threads they create, and they know you won't allow them the chance to flaunt their hypocrisy, so they've decided to stop at nothing until they make you miserable. Not to worry though, them no go succeed. Thunda faya them!
Hehehehe. . . . . . . no take laughter kill me for here, biko! grin I beg na which church you dey go??!
Family › Re: Why Would A Man Go For A Second Wife? by laudate: 3:09pm On Aug 20, 2007
@olanajim,

olanajim:
Laudate,
you would have noticed something about me. I hardly generalize on contentious issues especially when I know that it is based on circumstance. My exposure to Islam and christainity make me more liberal and highly tolerant and my relationships with either side of the devide give me more understanding of their doctrine. You can hardly know where I stand unless I tell you.

While it may be right that polygamy sometimes doesn't work. It is equally a fact that monogamy is in itself not free of the sawe problem associated with polygamy. I am not here to propagate polygamy even though I am not into it. I just want to let you know it may in fact be better than monogamy in some instances.
A lot of us are also highly liberal and tolerant. Nobody ever said monogamy is free of problems. What I stated was that it is easier for monogamy to work, due to the lack of a third party (i.e. another wife). Having another woman in the picture, compounds the problem. Two's company, three is a crowd. lipsrsealed

olanajim:
Your judgement of Islam position on polygamy is faulty, and technically defective. I went all the way to read the true position of Islam on this subject, and I was surprised to see how much misinformation is being dissipated even among muslims folks.

My mentor case remain as I put it. Your conclusion is wrong. I had asked more than you even demanded and saw with my own eyes.
Please cite how my interpretation of the Qu'aran on multiple wives is wrong. I stated that the man must love them equally. Is that wrong?

wikipedia: In Islam, polygyny (i.e. polygamy) is allowed, with the specific limitation that men can only have up to four wives at any one time. However, the Qur'an specifically states that men who choose this route must deal with their wives as fairly as possible, doing everything that they can to spend equal amounts of time, money on each one of them. Although many Muslim countries still retain traditional Islamic law which permits polygyny, certain elements within Islam challenge its acceptability.
Please what is so wrong about what I wrote on the view of multiple marriages in Islam? Please read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy. You can also read: ."  Surah 4:3.

Another point of view was expressed here: http://members.aol.com/MercStG/MarIslamPage1.html
Mercian Order: In the Moslem World a man may marry more than one wife, indeed Muhammad had thirteen wives after the death of his beloved Khadijah. Moslem men are allowed four wives at any one time, but only on certain strict conditions. The first wife must always give her consent, and later wives must never be the cause of distress. All wives must be treated equally, and the husband must spend his night with each in turn, subject to the wish of the wife concerned. Making love equally is not required, but the equal sharing of time is essential.
please do me a favour and read the quotes cited above. I do not see how these excerpts contradict my view of marrying four wives under Islamic law.

olanajim:
My mentor case remain as I put it. Your conclusion is wrong. I had asked more than you even demanded and saw with my own eyes. 

Take a tour of countries with predominant muslim population that practice polygamy and countries USA where monogamy is a state law. Take note of the followings:

muslims laws allow for divorce; yet divorce rate is not as prevalence as in the west that tighten law on divorce and legalise monogamy.
Also family value in those countries remains higher than than the west. While I am not a pessimist like you, I conceed that the system had loophole which none of the contributors so far had mentioned. What you have been talking about are things that are equally prevalence in monogamy.

We must never allow our personal preference block our view of the reality.
Divorce rates may not be as highly prevalent in those Islamic countries because, in most cases it is NOT the woman that initiates divorce proceedings, it is the man, unlike in the West where either of them can initiate divorce proceedings. sad

Secondly, family values in most cases are based on the culture of the people. Some cultures respect individualism, (i.e. me, myself & I) like you see in many Western societies; others propagate and practice communalism (e.g. Middle Eastern and African societies). Their outlook in both societies affect their attitude to family ties, and consequently divorce. It isn't just a question of religion. Israel is not an Islamic society, yet divorce rates are low in Israel.  undecided

Thirdly, divorce rates may be under-reported, even where it is prevalent. Women in Muslim-dominated societies do not have much freedom to express themselves, unlike their counter parts in the West. They have very little or no access to the media, to tell their stories, unlike their Western counterparts as well. So this may account for the low reportage of divorce rates. Who knows?  undecided

Fourth, women empowerment and career choices also play a huge part, in the decision to go along with a divorce process. As women increasingly bring home the bacon, they feel less inclined to stay in an abusive or unproductive marriage.

Finally, everyone interpretes reality to some degree, based on their personal preferences. But in this case, most of my comments were influenced by the reality I saw around me. Very little of it was coloured by my personal preferences, as you are trying to imply.

Kindly read the following:
http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/Women/Weddings.html
Events › Re: Wedding Receptions Venues In Lagos by laudate: 2:32pm On Aug 20, 2007
Lots of places exist in Lagos, where you can have a nice traditional wedding or reception.

1). MUSON Centre - Onikan: This is an upmarket location in the heart of Lagos. There are two halls with adequate air-conditioning and seats. There is the Shell Nigeria Hall a 1,000 seater conference hall with two adjoining Function Rooms; the Agip Recital Hall with Stall Seats for 298 persons and 14 Boxes seating 78 additional persons etc. There is also parking space within the premises.

2). YORUBA TENNIS CLUB: This is also located in Onikan. Parking space is small, so your guests may have to park on the street. But the grounds are spacious. And you can put up your canopies & arrange your seats any way, you like. But you need to be a member of the club, to use its' facilites.

3). LAWN TENNIS CLUB: Again, it is a stone throw away from Onikan, just opposite the Tafawa Balewa Square. It has a large open space, so you will need to arrange for canopies & chairs. Again, you need to be a member or be recommended by one, to get access to the facilities.

4). EKO HOTEL EXHIBITION HALL/CONFERENCE CENTRE: This is located in Victoria Island, and is part of the Eko Hotel complex. There is adequate parking space, a stand-by generator, chairs etc.

5). XQZ MOI: Off Lekki-Epe Expressway, near Shoprite, close to the Lekki First Roundabout. It is an open space, owned by Ali Baba the comedian, and its' a little off the beaten track. Lots of open air, and enough space to set up canopies and arrange seats. Quite suitable for an Owanbe kind of gathering.

6). VGC RECREATION PARK: Located inside Victoria Garden City on Lekki-Epe Expressway, the place is nice and quiet. The ambience of the Estate makes it quite attractive for anyone that wants to have an exclusive party-Cum-traditional wedding.

7). FEDERAL PALACE HOTEL ATLANTIC GARDENS: Located in Victoria Island, the gardens of the Federal Palace Hotel, are quite popular for those who want an enclosed space, for their parties. you may need to check out other associated costs like corkage etc. The beauty is that the Hotel offers catering services & an in-house band, for those who wish to have a one-stop, all-inclusive service for their parties.

8.) THE CIVIC CENTRE: Located on Ozumba Mbadiwe Avenue, in Victoria Island, this location has about three halls within the complex. Word has it costs about 350,000 per day to hire each hall. Parking is a MAJOR problem, at this location as space is in such short supply within the premises. Most guests park on the road. But the mother of all parties have been held in this location, since it opened. One writer actually described it as the latest entrant in this group, built on prime property facing the water incorporating a boat club with facilities for holding parties, receptions and company events. It is rumoured to have been built by a top banker after his application for the prestigious Boat Club was turned down!

9). PEARL GARDEN is situated in Ocean View, at the beginning of Adetokubo Ademola Street, in Victoria Island, is a complex owned by Eko Hotels consisting of three different restaurants and a large expanse of land facing the Atlantic Ocean where shows and mini concerts are held. This is such a lovely up-market location, and would do fine for a wedding reception or party. Parking space is available.

10). LAGOS MOTOR BOAT CLUB on Awolowo Road, Ikoyi as well as POLO CLUB off Ribadu Road in South-West, Ikoyi are other places where one can hold a traditional wedding or after-wedding party. But you need to be a member to qualify, or get recommendations from a member, in order to get a permit to hold your party, there.

There are so many other places in Lagos, with enough space & facilities, where you can hold a wonderful reception. Just search. But make sure you arrange your own security at these locations, especially the ones in Onikan area. Wish you luck! cool
Politics › Re: Chief Obafemi Awolowo: National Hero Or Villain? by laudate: 1:46pm On Aug 20, 2007
xkape:
. I think he was very tribalistic like most (if not all ) yorubas but i wonder where people got the idea that that was necessarily a bad thing. Anyway that is another topic for another day.
Um. . . . . .how many Yorubas have you met or interacted with, for you to draw this conclusion?
Politics › Re: Chief Obafemi Awolowo: National Hero Or Villain? by laudate:
Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo was many things to many people. But the greatest faux pas he made in his life, was that famous statement about 'using starvation as a weapon of warfare'. It was sad. In one blow, he lost the enormous goodwill and respect that a lot of non-Yoruba folks had for him. If he ever came close to regretting anything in his life, am sure he would have wished he could take back those words. It was said that food drops that were being made in the South-East during the war, contained ammunition along with the expected food rations. So in order to ensure that this source of arms supply was cut off, he ordered a total food blockade. If you ask me, that was a big mistake on his part. It was said that he later rescinded his decision and asked that food should be sent to the East, by road, after it had been checked by the federal forces. The Biafran high command refused and alleged that such food was likely to have been poisoned.

Was he tribalistic? I really do not think so. But I stand to be corrected. He wanted the best for the South-West, and he left no stone untouched to ensure that he made good his promises to them. Did his people appreciate the free education, free medicare, scholarships, first television station etc. that were the hall marks of his administration in the 'sixties. Am sure they did.

All areas that fell under the old Western region benefited from the free education policy, including the Western Igbo. If Awo was tribalistic, couldn't he have denied them of the chance to have an education, or restricted the scholarships to people from his own ethnic group, alone? Chief Michael Ashikodi Agbamuche the former Minister of Justice eloquently puts it this way, in his article on the Anioma:

[quote author=Whither The Anioma? (1) - By M.A. Agbamuche]
What inspired the idea of Anioma is a matter for speculation; however, what is beyond dispute is that at the time of the creation of the then Mid-West Region in 1963, what passed as the political leadership of what is now Delta North Senatorial District had embraced the idea of Anioma. That of course was hardly surprising given the cultural homogeneity and similarity of outlook, consequent upon common history. As a politician and historian, the late Chief D.C. Osadebay did not need convincing about the benefits of creating for his primary constituency a unifying idea/force.

Against that background, it must be remembered that[b] the area in question is a small part of what was then the Western Region of Nigeria which in the circumstances of that time was not a bad government for the Anioma. It did not, for instance, deny the Anioma the benefits of free Primary Education it introduced in the old Western Region. Recruitment into its civil service was largely based on merit and consequently persons of Anioma origin with ability were enabled to begin a career in the public service that led for many to the very top at the Federal level. Anioma indigenes were beneficiaries of Western Region’s overseas scholarships.
[/quote]http://www.thetimesofnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1216&Itemid=78&PHPSESSID=e1f16924491a5c766bfef4e017
Politics › Re: Obj Offered Kalu N5billion? by laudate: 11:53am On Aug 20, 2007
I do not believe any part of this story! undecided
Politics › Re: Igbos! What To Do With Laudate, Dimka, Batu And Other Knaves Of Like Minds by laudate: 11:22am On Aug 20, 2007
[quote author=I-man link=topic=72296.msg1408531#msg1408531 date=1187543886]Don't mind the blithering hermaphrodite.Her reluctance to acknowledge her feminity is indicative of her sexual orientation. grin[/quote]Here comes the attention-seeking, identity-switching, dithering primate called I-man a.k.a 4-play. shocked

Am scratching my head, trying to figure out why you are so obsessed with my gender. Na wa o! You no get beta job? Abi, them send you. . . . . .??!! undecided Tell members of yah cartel say, you dey too small to deliver di message o!
Politics › Re: Igbos! What To Do With Laudate, Dimka, Batu And Other Knaves Of Like Minds by laudate: 11:19am On Aug 20, 2007
BABEELOVE:
Laudate, I think you have appealed to mostly the "registered" females here, We know what you are. Don't mind them jo!

grin grin grin grin grin

Yes it was Donzman that started the rumour! And Laudate tackled him on the matter instantly! It is obvious what Laudate is--so how come na only "registered" females dey challenge am? The guys dare not go there oh!--Except Donzman of course which begs the question?--- huh

We all know that "that Militia" is not a lesbian. So if there was any love game at all, it would not be a lesbian one. So work out the equation. Laudate no mind them jo! grin
Wa'sere! Correct chic!! cool I know say you too dey sharp! As for Donzman, am not suprised that he came up with that rumour. Falsehood seems to be his trademark! wink
Politics › Re: Igbos! What To Do With Laudate, Dimka, Batu And Other Knaves Of Like Minds by laudate: 11:16am On Aug 20, 2007
tpia:
@laudate

laudate what is a.k.a?

I don't catch your drifthuh?

so when i was discussing with militia, i was actually having a discussion with myselfhuh?
My girl. . . . .how body now? When you were discussing with Militia, you were certainly not having a conversation with yourself! wink We were waiting for her to respond, and as usual, she hasn't disappointed anyone. Am sure everyone can read between the lines. So for now, until the real Militia shows up with proof to disprove the fact that she has not adopted a new identity (i.e. Babelove), I shall continue to refer to my dear friend Babelove, as Militia! Oh, by the way a.k.a is an abbreviation for "also known as. . . ."

Hope that helps! grin
Literature › Re: Lest We Forget by laudate: 6:52pm On Aug 17, 2007
You forgot to add Chris Ifekandu Okigbo to your list. His works Labyrinths etc. need to be celebrated and brought to the fore again, for posterity. Am so interested in this writer, and personal information about his life is so scanty. A friend of mine is trying to do a series of articles about him and the women in his life. Its' been 40 years since he passed away in the civil war, fighting on the side of Biafra.

But like I said, very little is known about his personal life and times. Can anyone shed more light on this?
Family › Re: Why Would A Man Go For A Second Wife? by laudate: 5:47pm On Aug 17, 2007
olanajim:
Laudate,

you seem to be passionate about your defence of monogamy. Sentiment apart, our knowledge and experience sometimes determine our views on issues. Personally, I have the habit of looking at every available options before making my decision. All your observations has meriit. But they are not universally acceptable. The case studies I brought up were real. My own experience inclusive. It is therefore an error for you to think otherwise simply because you haven't witnessed similar event. The overall purpose of sharing is to compare and contrast with view to adopt what best suit your aspiration. I have lived in the north and south, just as I have lived the two homes: polygamy and monogamy. I have seen, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the beauty of the two. My personal preference for monogamy is never the same as you all have been advancing. It just surprised me that so far, most of contributions were based on sentiment and not the reality. I would therefore, as a rule, not personalize my contribution.
Olanajim, I never said your case studies were not real. I only questioned the premise from which you drew your conclusions. Like you, I have lived in the North and the South. And like you, I have also lived within a monogamous household (i.e. my parents), as well as a polygamous one (i.e. one of my grand-parents). So I do believe I have some facts at my fingertips.

No matter how much a man may try to deny it, he cannot love two wives equally, not to talk of three. And the Muslim men who rely on the Q'uaran to practise polygamy, will often tell you that their own scriptures say a man is entitled to 4 wives, but he must love them equally and do justice to them, equally. Tell me, in all honesty, how many men can do that? Even among parents, many of them do not love all their children equally, not to now talk of those who are not even related, but are merely husband & wife. undecided

Polygamy and happiness in most cases, do not go together except if the man keeps each wife, in a seperate apartment. Most women who manage to keep the peace in a polygamous home, merely do so because their livelihood is dependent on the man, and they do not have the means to stand on their own two feet. So, they try and suppress their feelings of angst, and pretend as much as they can that things are alright. But are they really alright, in the strict sense of the word?  huh

In a monogamous home, if the man or woman gets fed up, and there is no way to mend fences between them, they may undergo a divorce, and then go ahead to set up a home with different partners. Sometimes, each party finds happiness in this new arrangement with a new partner. At other times, the new arrangements may not work, and they may still end up coming back together again, after spending some time apart. Things may end up working out for them, a 2nd time around, because they have now had time to reflect and realise their mistakes.

olanajim:
Yes, some men marries for humanitarian reasons. But the practice is fading now for many reasons. One of My mentors, who is polygamous once gave me a lecture on marriage. During our discursion, he confided in me why he married the last wife. The man is popular, so people just wonder why he would had a beautiful wife at home and marry an ugly, tribal-marked and poverty striken woman from the village! And that was the last wife. She wasn't even educated! He said, he married her "to give her hope, and give her home. To help her become somebody in life"
That ugly woman who would have remained unmarried is now a grandmother, with a beautiful home and children. There was crisis in the begining, but it is no more.

Muslims, especially those who know the laws do this. It is not just northerners. The south also do it. Like I said, it is fading. Don't call polygamous husbands ignorant. My mentor is educated and hold top position at his work before he retired.
And I keep telling you, there is nothing humanitarian in any man who is considering marriage with a lady, that he wants to be his 2nd wife. There must have been something about the "uneducated, ugly, tribal-marked and poverty striken woman from the village," that attracted that man enough to put his common sense aside, and put her in his bed. Am sure there were so many other uneducated, poor women in that village. Why did he decide to help only that one? If he was motivated strictly by humanitarian reasons, he would have married more women to given them hope, a home and help them become somebody in life, not so? huh

Ask your mentor again. I believe he is being economical with the truth. In Islam, when a man marries a widow or takes a 2nd wife, they do so because they can use religion to cover up their excesses, and because they want a new variety. Sometimes, they also do it because their first wife cannot give them kids, or because they have had girls and are searching for a boy. Hardly, would they cite humanitarian reasons as an excuse to indulge in a clandestine affair, and make it legit by taking on the other woman as a 2nd wife. Are they a refugee centre? shocked

My take on this issue is simple. Any man who cites humanitarian reasons as an excuse for having a 2nd wife, is merely fooling himself, not the rest of the world. God gave everyone common sense. If he is feeling so charitable, he could pay her zakat, rent an apartment for the woman like I said earlier, or ask her to work as a live-in nanny, taking care of kids in his home. That way, she would have food and board, at least. wink

Finally please do not tell me ". . . .it is therefore an error for you to think otherwise simply because you haven't witnessed similar event." I have. Several times, in fact. We can all view the exact same event at different times, and interprete it in many different ways. God in His infinite wisdom, created us all as different individuals, not puppets. grin If He wanted us to engage in Group Think, he would have made clones, instead of human beings. So kindly free your mind.

One last word: Ignorance has very little to do with a person's level of education, or the chain of degrees he has in his kitty. Ignorance has more to do with the condition of one's mind, and the ability to sift grains of truth, from the chaff.
Travel › Re: Nigerians In Nigeria Versus Nigerians In Diaspora! by laudate: 2:48pm On Aug 17, 2007
Chei!! Kobe, you be ba-aa-aa-ad guy!! grin

ROFL and LMAO!!
Travel › Re: Nigerians In Diaspora Carry Sh*t For A Living by laudate: 2:36pm On Aug 17, 2007
[quote author=Imani:Yesterday at 10:51:05 PM]A nation merely reflects the "thinking" capacity or productivity of its people. Not a lot of contries are blessed with the amount of resources we have, but they can probably manage what we have better than ourselves.

Nigeria, however, is a case of some people really working so hard but with nothing to show for it because the system doesnt encourage productivity. Lets be honest, the system is being ruined by corruption, therefore it is hard to differentiate those that make their money through sheer hardwork and those that "stole" their wealth.

Some Nigerians have very poor work ethics and it is manifested sometimes over here as well. Some people don't seem to realise, that it is not only the government that is responsible for the wellbeing of the country, we the citizens are. The government workers, are the worst in this regard. I was in Nigeria recently and visited a government organisation, and saw a lot of so called government workers just time wasting on the job. This attitude is very prevalent. Maybe the government is not motivating them enough enough in terms of pay package. However, this mentality of not giving our best in most things we do, has led to the steady decline the country has witnessed in recent years.

Yes, we should criticize our country constructively, even the so called developed countries do likewise. Why should Nigeria be different?.[/quote]Thank you. Most of the time, (not all) people get the kind of leader they deserve.

Everyone keeps blaming leadership. If the best leader is elected, and his followers are ruthless brigands, devious rogues, lazy drones, unimaginative, unmanageable, sheepish clods etc., tell me what kind of magic can such a leader perform with the calibre of followers he has? Even if he puts in the best kind of laws to sanitise the system, who are those that will implement or administer such laws and make them effective? Are they not his followers?

It also works the other way round, too. A perfect followership with the worst kind of leadership, will not go far. But the only advantage is that - a determined, focused followership that knows what needs to be done, can always take charge of their affairs and hold the leadership accountable, for performing to set standards or even change such leadership, (if they have the means and wherewithal to do so) by installing one that meets their criteria, or can perform to their expectation.

It takes two to tango, people.
Politics › Re: Igbos! What To Do With Laudate, Dimka, Batu And Other Knaves Of Like Minds by laudate: 1:11pm On Aug 17, 2007
Imani, Babelove a.k.a Militia, Tpia, Kobe. . . .how all of una dey??  grin

Abeg, make I laugh well, well. Nothing wey person no go see for this forum. Na jeje I siddon, wey people wake up, come dey halla say I be hater o! Dem come open thread, put my name. Their chief say make members of im cartel ignore me. I beg make all of una help me thank am. Awww. . . sheer joy! grin It means I won't have to listen to their whining any longer. Oh, sheer bliss! Can't get any better than this, surely. Am so delighted! cool

Now, as for the lesbianism or homosexual claims. . .ah, omo I weak o. . . .I don't know what to make of them! tongue Last time I checked, I was strictly heterosexual o! Still am, in fact. So how did questions about my sexual orientation come up, sef?  cheesy Some people get dirty minds, sha. I pray make God use bleach, wash them brain cells, biko.  wink

Hehehehe. . . .Babelove, you sure say no be you start this rumour?
Family › Re: Why Would A Man Go For A Second Wife? by laudate: 9:42pm On Aug 16, 2007
olanajim:
When we look at men who marries second wife, we would notice the second wife or third, whatsoever, is there to fill a vacuum that the old wlfe either created or could not fill. Another reason would be that, the man do it for humanitarian reasons(to help singles get a home). All these talks about lust is just being evasive of the reality. Most of the oppositions naturally come from women folk. .
This one you posted up here, shocked me out of my wits! In what way is a man being humanitarian by becoming a polygamist? Is he Mother Theresa or Pope John Paul? If he wants to be humanitarian, let him visit an orphanage and adopt the motherless kids in there. Or he could put that single woman in a girl's hostel if all she needs is accomodation. Helping singles get a home, is the most ridiculous excuse I have ever heard. I guess the fact that such a single woman is a young, sexy and attractive thing, with looks that stir up his libido, has nothing to do with it. If the second woman was a blind, old, deaf wrinkled bat, would he still be motivated by the same altruistic reasons?  huh

olanajim:
Women make polygamy a reality by consciously entering into relationship with married men. It is not as if single men don't relate with married women. Men had conditioned themselves to reject polyandry. What stop women from doing same? Culture? Force? Women had been forced into marriages. In most cases, they consented to marry a married man.
True!! wink In the South, it is often scheming, greedy, manipulative women that agree to marry a man that already has a wife and kids, still under his roof. Such women do not marry poor men that are still struggling to make ends meet, living in a face-me-I-face-you apartment. They see a succesful man, whose wife probably made sacrifices for him to get to where he is, and next thing they want to cash in on the gravy train! Why?? In the North, one could use the excuse of religion, ignorance and cultural factors to explain why young girls barely in their teens are married off without their consent to married men old enough to be their fathers. But down in the south, it is another ball-game. And unfortunately, men haven't learnt the art of saying NO, loud and clear!. Like my Yoruba boss says: "It is not every type of meat that one is offered, that one should swallow."

olanajim:
Saying there is no peace in polygamy is inaccurate. Though, I am not polygamous, I actually came from a very peaceful polygamous home. I had never withnessed any scufle or open disagreement among the rivals. Yet ours is not a perfect one. I know a couple of peaceful polygamous families. Yet, I have lived in one of the most turbulent monogamous home I ever seen, Providence made me lived with them for 4 years. The home stabilized only after the man get a second wife!

We must realize that the whole things depends on the couple. Many women owe their happiness to polygamy.
In what way do women owe their happiness to polygamy, please?? Is it to the rivalry that often takes centre-stage in most polygamous households, or what? Is it the constant vying for attention? I don't get it o!

Turbulent monogamous homes, can be resolved if both parties learn to work out their differences amicably. But once a third party who wants to reap where she did not sow comes in, ah. . . .na another tory be that! wink
Family › Re: Can You Marry Against Your Parents' Wishes? by laudate: 9:07pm On Aug 16, 2007
Chei! So dis thread still dey. . . huh
Family › Re: Is It Good For Wives To Call Their Husbands By Their Names ? by laudate: 9:04pm On Aug 16, 2007
ThiefOfHearts:
more like Fortunately.
Na for here you come hide! grin Your friend babyosisi has been busy mis-yarning in the politics section. Guess what? The tribalistic cartel even devoted a whole thread to me, trying to decide on what to do next. wink Hehehehe. . . . . .Omo, better gist don waka pass o! Tell me, wetin dey happen for yah end?
Politics › Re: Wallowing In Ignorance by laudate: 8:52pm On Aug 15, 2007
ono:
Well Laudate, it's been said time and again that some people are born leaders, while others are get leadership bestowed on them. . . . . I too can't remember where I read that; I'll read it up later.
Yeah. . . .please read up on that. Kindly read up all those leadership theories from the psychologists' perspective, too.
If there is still time, read The Power of One.

ono:
And by the way, I need to know if I'm dealing with a woman or a man here!
My gender has[i] nothing [/i] to do with the subject being discussed. grin

And you are[i] not[/i] dealing with me, you are dealing with the issues raised on this board! wink
Politics › Re: Two Lies As Biafra Turns 40 9/7/2007 by laudate: 5:40pm On Aug 15, 2007
@Dimka,

Please get the frigging hel' out of here!! Am not going to warn you a second time, you slowpoke! angry
Culture › Re: If You Are From EDO STATE, Represent The HeartBeat of the Nation by laudate: 5:32pm On Aug 15, 2007
@Gamine,

If you are not Ishan, Etsako, Bini, Akoko-Edo, Auchi, Igbanke (Ika) etc., then what part of Edo state are you from?? Can't you just state it simply, and tell people all about the wonderful things that make your people so special? What's your beef??

Frankly, I do not see those distinctions between the sub-groups as huge, major ones. . . . and am sure people from different sub-groups in that state, don't see each other as enemies. There may be some petty rivalry and so on, but it is not as bad as it is in some other parts of the nation.
Politics › Re: Dress Code In Benue,a Rejoinder by laudate: 5:22pm On Aug 15, 2007
Dis Guy:
you are one brave lady o!! apologise? apologisehuhhuhhuh?? i can't believe it !! you are asking for their right eyes lol, ignorant people are too big for themselves you know

try using the following words in any of your sentence and you will see them flocking in here like its Xmas - hausa, Muslims, sharia, wink
Hahahaha. . . . .ohh, Dis Guy mind yahself o!   wink Di last time I laughed this much, I fell off my chair inside di church. They had to kill a cow, before I could agree to get up! Yes, ke! tongue Now you are trying to make me fall off the same chair again. . . . na forty-one cows you go kill this time before I get up.  grin
Politics › Re: Two Lies As Biafra Turns 40 9/7/2007 by laudate: 5:18pm On Aug 15, 2007
willywilly:
If u like load all HAUSA/FULANI inside Truck, go dump them for OXfORD or CAMBRIDGE (University).
when dey come back , them go still be the same. if them no cut your head. them go look for Hand.
God don already give them dey gift of Cut Cut.
As for YORUBA, dey more Education wey them get. Na more (camelion, tortoise and Bank Fraud Master) them go be. God give them that gift, make lies full them mouth. So, please don't take it away from them.
willywilly:
I wonder, how ODUDUWA REPUBLIC , go look.
inside that republic lies go dey fly like bees.
The great Niger Delta people, hope sey una know wetin i mean.
Petty propaganda, ethnic hatred and jingoism masquerading as philosophical platitude. angry

Maybe when you add your own region or ethnic group into the equation, the whole world will take you serious. Anyway, let me allow those who come from those areas, to give you the kind of response, you so richly deserve. *Hiss*
Politics › Re: Dress Code In Benue; Ladies Banned From Wearing Trousers! by laudate: 4:59pm On Aug 15, 2007
Dis Guy:
To be honest we don't even have any evidence that he Benue state government did anything in the first place i think someone or some people just misinterpreted what the governor said according to this
Ohhhh!! angry Dis Guy, why did you have to spoil di fun now??!! The altercations were just beginning to get interesting! grin

Oyb vs. babyosisi is certainly a must watch! wink I go fine you for all the money I could have made from gate-takings o!
Culture › Re: Challenge To All Northerners: Educate Your People by laudate: 4:51pm On Aug 15, 2007
willywilly:
Hey,
You YORUBA /(western). any You HAUSA/FULANI(northern).
I won know. Na loot wey una won share, make una dey quareel who go get lion share?

If YORUBA man sey . Hausa/Fulani dey give naija only(Alemajiri, illiterates and looters)and dey no dey contribute nothing and think of shower only on holidays, when them go put on new clothes.
Wetin that YORUBA MAN talk na 1OO% correct. But
If HAUSA/FULANI man sey , YORUBA dirty. That Hausa/Fulani pass him exam 1oo%.
Hehehe. . . .Willy-willy, dis your analysis never complete o! You have only talked about two ethnic groups. What about all the others? Even your own, you no put am inside the list. Na 'partiality' be dis one o! angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Oh God, Tunde Bakare Again! by laudate: 4:47pm On Aug 15, 2007
bolutito:
he didnt say tb. joshua, i think he meant [b]t[/b]unde [b]b[/b]akare.
Ah, thank you jare. I have seen my mistake! grin
Politics › Re: The Hausas, The Politics Of The Polio Vaccine, And The Monkey In Us All. by laudate: 4:45pm On Aug 15, 2007
PTH:
it still begs the question; why have we had complaints ONLY from northern nigeria? where the vaccines made specially for them? Afterall southern babies got the same vaccines.
I would also urge Nigerians to be wary of unecessary oversensationalisation of issues, WHO and UNICEF have no reason to come out to make a denial when no credible complaints have been made yet.
Haba! shocked No talk this one. How can you say complaints have not been made, when it has been in the press, the northern doctors have publicised the results of the lab tests, and even some news media have carried stories of the North rejecting the vaccines?

In the south, people are much too busy chasing survival strategies that they leave main issues like this on the back burner, until it is too late! sad Afterwards, they run to church seeking for miracles, when a little prevention and caution could have nipped the whole thing in the bud.

No vex o, but I beg to disagree with your stand on this issue.
Politics › Re: Dress Code In Benue,a Rejoinder by laudate: 4:37pm On Aug 15, 2007
@Dranoel, Aisha2, Dis Guy, Big Spif

Una all dey talk like say una no sabi Nairaland. Many folks just put pen to paper (abi, na fingers to their keyboard), without stopping to think long and hard for one second, about the topic under discussion or what they are going to put into print.

They have so much ignorance and hate in their souls that, if they don't vent their spleen on the most innoucous person, they would go bananas from holding it all in. Abeg, make una leave matter for Mathias. Like I always say. . . .God dey!! wink

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