Politics › Re: Igbo Walka Walka: A Blessing Or A Curse? by lawani(m): 6:00pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Salym: 3 million Igbos in Kano? Do you know that the population of Kano city, where the Igbos are mostly found is not more than 3 million. What kind of statistics is this? Igbos in Kano State are not up to two hundred thousand please. (Check the population of Fagge LGA where Sabon gari is located; its not more than 400 thousand and Igbos are definitely not the majority there. In other northern states their population will be in the range of 10 to 20 thousand or less with the exception of Kaduna where they may be above 50 thousand. All in all there aren't more than 500 thousand Igbos in the whole North. Are you sure?. I find this hard to believe. |
Politics › Re: What's The Purpose Of A Committee? by lawani(m): 4:48pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Two heads are always better than one and the report of a committee will always be more reliable than that of a single person. No matter who you are or how wise you are, submit yourself to be peer reviewed by a committee because anybody can run mad anytime |
Politics › Re: Drop The Name Nigeria, It's Demeaning: Wole Olanipekun Advocates Restructuring by lawani(m): 4:30pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
MrSly: There may be wrong decisions taken during the war but the fact remain that these people have said no to one Nigeria that is obviously not working and neo colonialism and wants to self determination. Is there anything wrong with that? There is nothing wrong in that and I am in support of that as well because the groups competing in Nigeria are contemporaries by population and the competition is not healthy at all. I only responded to correct the idea that all Nigerians were against Biafra from the onset. The war started as a struggle between the East and the North and may have been avoided easily |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Definitely Graduated From Chicago State University By Farooq A. Kperogi by lawani(m): 4:23pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
The university only confirmed that Bola A Tinubu (female) graduated from there. |
Politics › Re: Drop The Name Nigeria, It's Demeaning: Wole Olanipekun Advocates Restructuring by lawani(m): 12:33pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
MrSly: They begged and there was still a fight? Oga are you kidding? Even now Nnamdi Kanu is in prison to beg for Biafra reintegration. Younare not a historian and you are given to reading too. They would have preferred to win of course but they opened too many warfronts and if they bring war to your land you are obliged to fight which was how the west and Midwest were dragged into the war. The war would not have happened at all if the Eastern region government had insisted on a referendum before any new state can be created anywhere in the country and everybody would have succumbed to the argument including the people of all the newly created states and that would have set a precedent and maybe we would not be here discussing this matter today but other matters like how to launch a Jupiter probe |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 12:24pm On Sep 02, 2023*. Modified: 4:38pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: leave your shell my brother, Osun state is a backlog of water, don’t call those villages towns, Osun state has nothing on Delta state.
If you believe that Kano state (is the most populous state aside Lagos, then your education is wasted)that was adjudged more populous than Lagos, when jigawa was one with Kano, then Jigawa was taken from it, it was still adjudged more populous. then your education is wasted.
Kano state is only more populous on paper, in real life,-this is the order - Lagos,then Rivers, Delta, Oyo in no particular order before Kano. Leave your comfort zone so that you can also objectively give opinions, “nor be tell me say” We are all learning and I get more educated every day. You have to admit that mere speculation is not adequate and valid data is what can give a fair judgement of population Active GSM lines Waec stats number of active personal bank accounts or bank branches number of common entrance candidates and etc I would not touch official population figures and voter registration figures with a long pole These data are available online for different years. If you analyse them and submit a report, it can qualify as a PhD thesis but mere emotional outbursts don't cut it but Delta has a slightly higher population than Osun but it is not more urbanized, Osun is more urbanized by far meaning it is more organized and advanced. Delta advantage is because of oil money. Osun advantage is in agro allied but it is being neglected |
Politics › Re: Drop The Name Nigeria, It's Demeaning: Wole Olanipekun Advocates Restructuring by lawani(m): 6:46am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Middleborn: Without the British, there would be no Nigeria...this is true. I agree with the SAN for the change of name because now we understand so clearly the reason for the British invasion, amalgamation, exploration and further neocolonialism of the indigenous peoples of this locality. It was for profits, it was pure business otherwise why would they kill so many people, why would they brainwash us with false ideologies, why would they loot our cultural edifices, why would they loot our resources?. it has been said that in the British museum are documents which clearly states that crude oil was officially discovered in Nigeria in 1881. They used the Nigerian oil to fight and win the first world war, they haven't told us this. Nigeria is simply a British company and like they say, the foundation of an institution determines its success or failure. The way Nigeria is run right now has a bearing on its foundation, why it was formed, how it was formed and who formed it.
So if we realize this at this time and we believe we can move past all this, we have to first dismantle the house from its foundations. By this i mean disintegrating the country Nigeria. Allow the indigenous people to decide who they would like to form unions with, create a new foundation that represents the people concerned...the blind spot is that we have already been corrupted by the British Nigeria and might just continue going downhill, but we can try for once without the influence of western powers.
All i have just said is possible, but its almost a utopia because the people holding Nigeria together are too strong. They are the most heartless humans on the planet. This country at this stage has no business being one country, and only a disintegration will allow people to have the best quality of life. What exactly are you blaming the British for?. Is it wrong for one nation to rule another nation?. It has been happening for millennia. Romance languages are legacies of the Roman empire. The Yoruba language is basically Egyptian. They speak Arabic in North Africa because of colonisation by Muslims. In West Africa here, nations built empires and reduced others to vassal status. Are you blaming the British because they gave independence? Or for their white skin?. If you could not have done better, then it would be wrong to blame anybody. The British left a workable system and maybe the only thing missing was state police and there was an orderly procedure of state creation which was used to create the Midwest. It was the military that scattered everything and made state creation to stand still. On state of infrastructure and corruption, it is because of dependence on oil money. Many other former British colonies are successful. If nobody is ready to volunteer then the international community can not do more than what they are doing already for which they are being villified |
Politics › Re: Coups: The Two Anglophone Countries Immuned From This Scourge - Femi Fani-Kayode by lawani(m): 6:14am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Ghana is a modern country that is different from Europe only because they are not organised to take personal income tax. Is Nigeria like that?. FFK's opinions are often never academic. Almost always a joke. The Nigerian President used the id of a US educated woman to gain ascendancy in politics. Is Ghana like that?. Huge nations are trapped in Nigeria competing with each other in a way that stalls progress for the whole country. Is Ghana like that?. The people who want progress but have no idea how to bring it are quiet instead of misyarning |
Politics › Re: Drop The Name Nigeria, It's Demeaning: Wole Olanipekun Advocates Restructuring by lawani(m): 6:00am On Sep 02, 2023 |
gaby: While I agree with part of your submissions, it is imperative to make a correction to one of your points.
The British never created Nigeria as a country.
The British created Nigeria as a business enterprise to be headed by an indigenous CEO/President while the British Royals kept the majority shareholding and control of the board.
If in doubt, ask yourself why is it that anyone who seeks to preside over Nigeria must first go to 10 Downing street to make their intentions known while also submitting their CVs for a possible interview and assurances secured from the applicants on how they intend to make the business enterprise more beneficial and profitable to them (the board of directors/majority shareholders)?.
To pass their interview and to be deemed as fit for the top job, of course, you will have to give them assurances of a prosperous Nigeria under your leadership.
However, it is pertinent to note that "A Prosperous Nigeria" in this context is hugely different for "Prosperous Nigerians".
While the former is what concerns and benefits them as the real owners of the business enterprise "Nigeria", the possibility of the latter goes against their dividends and hell no way you will be getting their support for the top job.
In conclusion:
If you set out to work for the prosperity and betterment of Nigerians, it would mean you starving the shareholders of their premium payouts. No serious business person dey put hand for that kind kalo kalo business.
If you say you get coconut head and want be hero by force to care for your people, them know how to take care of you. Dem get agents for even your household.
You go "chop imaginary apple" by force.
Una doooooh...
Just something to ponder upon... If you can not volunteer even your brains and sincerity for your community, who will?. You are waiting for someone else?. One person is enough. With one person even eight billion people will become ten times better off. More intelligent, more prosperous, more beautiful and more successful but if you are running after small change like a prostitute, you won't get ahead, so also your people |
Politics › Re: Drop The Name Nigeria, It's Demeaning: Wole Olanipekun Advocates Restructuring by lawani(m): 5:49am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Flora Shaw thought very hard to arrive at the name. United States of west Africa might be another name but it was only three states at first. However Nigeria can only work as an EU like arrangement and that is what is already in place in ECOWAS meaning that Nigeria is not necessary. It only gives opportunity for people to be President over people they see as competitors. Disintegration is the only way out |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:46am On Sep 01, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: leave your shell my brother, Osun state is a backlog of water, don’t call those villages towns, Osun state has nothing on Delta state.
If you believe that Kano state (is the most populous state aside Lagos, then your education is wasted)that was adjudged more populous than Lagos, when jigawa was one with Kano, then Jigawa was taken from it, it was still adjudged more populous. then your education is wasted.
Kano state is only more populous on paper, in real life,-this is the order - Lagos,then Rivers, Delta, Oyo in no particular order before Kano. Leave your comfort zone so that you can also objectively give opinions, “nor be tell me say” If I am travelling to know things, then what I can know in one year will not be knowable in ten life times. You have to agree that if Oyo has more waec registration than Rivers it clearly means it has a higher population. Isn't it?. They are at the same level of exposure to western education and Rivers is more exposed. There are certainly more Oyo indigenes in Rivers than vice versa. It is only Kano's case that can be argued. Oyo also have more than Kano but Kano might be less exposed to western education a bit but Oyo has similar problems too to an extent and since other stats show Oyo leading Kano then probably the waec stats is not misleading. Ogun and Kaduna are also ahead of Rivers in waec stats and some other metrics also Kaduna etc Rivers by waec stats is less than half of Lagos and there is no reason to disbelieve that. Kaduna by waec stats is like 75 percent of Lagos but some stats put Kano and Ogun ahead of Kaduna and Ogun is just above 50 percent of Lagos by waec stats. The contradiction is a mystery. It is pointing to many children in Kaduna and many adults in Kano, Ogun, Oyo by comparison Believe what you want but no state has the combination of Osogbo Ilesa Ile Ife Iwo, Ede, Ila Orangun Ejigbo and etc that have been sprawling urban centers for centuries if not thousands of years but some states have higher population but not more urban centers than Osun |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 10:55pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
No state in Nigeria has the number of urban centers of Osun but they may have more population. No state in Nigeria has two major African cities ranked as top urban centers in Africa apart from Oyo state. Highest populated states are Lagos, Kaduna,Oyo,Kano, Rivers Ogun others rank after them. No group in Nigeria is more widely travelled than Yoruba both within Nigeria in Africa and globally. Yoruba in US are three times Igbo in population, UK may be more not to talk of Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire etc. Yoruba have been travelling in the modern era five hundred years before others, I wonder where you got the idea that Yoruba don't travel |
Phones › Re: Nigerian States By Number Of Registered Phone And Internet Connections lines by lawani(m): 9:35pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Okada691: Vehicle importations, electronics, London used phones and computers even pharmaceuticals are dominated by the Igbos.
The economy of Lagos is largely under Igbo control, From importation to the entertainment industry and businesses in Lagos. It is someone that does not have any idea of Lagos that you can decieve.
Yorubas in Portharcourt are at most 500k, i don’t act on them say, I have been there. They are the third migrant group there, after the Igbos and the Akwa cross groups.
Whether the Urhobos are per capita basis are more, That is in comparison to their population, i did not dispute that, but Igbos cannot be less than 4 million in Lagos and over seven million in the entire south west. That’s largely a safe guess.
Whether nollywood exist in the east or not, Lagos is the market. It is from Lagos that is where they have marketed it to the world and it is now a global brand. The third largest after Hollywood and Bollywood. It has contributed greatly to the economy of Lagos. And It has drawn people from far and wide into Lagos.
Lagos is far more cosmopolitan than ph, kaduna and Abuja, they are not even in the same league. Lagos is many things to Nigerians which those places are not.
Yorubas are not headed to the east in the same measure, majority of them go there to work and return, majority of them can’t even afford such high cost of land in Igbo land. Those of them that can afford it would not want to try it, especially when they think of how many plot such amount can get them in their land
In Lagos where i am very familiar with, they have up to 35 at the very least of asset and properties in Lagos, we are talking those face me i face you in ikorodu and badagry areas, we are talking about worthy assets and properties in the high brow areas and their worth as compared to the numerous face me i face you everywhere else that are owned by yorubas Are you saying Igbos are slaving in Yoruba land if they are doing so much and are not even in government?. Not even a local government chairman in Lagos or a commissioner?. It is not correct at all. Tokunbo car market is mainly in western Nigeria and it is only Lagos you find Igbos in the business maybe thirty percent if up to that but hinterland SW, it is only Yoruba and people come even to Ilesa from all over the country to buy Tokunbo. Therefore Tokunbo sales is more than eighty percent Yoruba controlled. There are people whose job is to travel and buy clothes, all their working capital maybe around ten million naira and they are not retailing, they sell to retailers and majority of such people are Yoruba who sell to any retailer including Igbos There are many imported things in the country and it should be easy for you to see that a pharmaceutical company in Osun dealing with India and USA is not using Igbo importers nor is a vehicle assembly plant in Kaduna owned by foreigners. So what makes you think Igbo is controlling all importation?. It is only what you sell you can import and not what others sell. Film making can be anywhere and the market is global but once Nigeria breaks up, the industry will be separated as part of different GDPs obviously and of course Igbo films will sell in Yoruba land abd vice versa as well as all over the world and Lagos will continue to host shows just as London etc do. It changes nothing or what do you think can change?. Kannywood already has a distinct identity despite being a segment of Nollywood. After Nigeria breaks up more people are still going to enter the industry in the new countries. I might invest in it as I have many stories and only one good story can gross any amount which does not stop the same thing in Biafra, so I don't know why you are like how you are. No matter the number of non Yoruba in the SW, it is still Yoruba land but I am just pointing out to you the errors in your assertions because false statements can become true in the brains of those constantly being bombarded by it. Though you have no real identity but your attitude can affect good Igbo people. If you are Igbo you are not a very likeable one because you make insultive statements the proof of which you don't have. IAgain, Igbos in Yoruba land are producing for the Yoruba land and Yoruba in Igbo land are producing for that land and Igbo owned houses in any Yoruba city is not up to 2 out of 1000 but the land under it is still communally owned. If you say Yoruba can not afford land in the East you would be wrong, if you live there you will buy land and people who are there are buying, if Yoruba cant buy then Igbo in the same place who have even less purchàsing power will not also be able to buy but that economics is difficult for you to understand. If land is expensive as you said then, the average Igbo man in the East will not be able to even afford rent but family men with 50k salary in the East can afford rent and that should tell you the average value of real estate in the East. If I go there tomorrow with cash, I will buy property. Churches like RCCG, Deeper life etc are littering the place and they sell land to them and you come here to say Igbo land is expensive?. |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 7:51pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: i served there, i am from the south there is nothing you can tell me, they don’t go to school my brother, It is a very rubbish statistics, you can’t compare it. Majority of the yams they bring to the south are farmed by these people. They do not believe in education that much. If you use the waec stats, you get it so wrong well,
How will Lagos be up to four times of rivers state. Lagos is 20 million. Rivers with Portharcourt as its capital city cannot be less than 10 million. Lagos Lagos is at most two times of rivers and Delta.
I can name 10 towns that are largely urbanized. Delta probably has the most urbanized towns in southern Nigeria. There is sapele, Warri, Agbor, Asaba, Oghara, Ughelli, Abraka, Uvwie, Owa. etc Delta is just about 9-10 million. I did not mean Rivers. Lagos is around 2.2 times of Rivers state if WAEC stats is used and Oyo is more than Rivers with the same stats and Oyo is likely to have more out of school kids than Rivers. Delta is behind Oyo in population even behind Osun in urbanisation. Delta towns are smaller. Osun has more urban spread than most other states. Delta will be highest six to seven million in population not nine to ten million which will put it above Rivers and Edo state. Even if we don't use waec stats, and use airtime loaded and other metrics like igr you are going to have similar results, so the effect of those who don't go to school is everywhere tangential. Nigerian population is in descending order SW, SS, NW, NC, NE, SE from all real stats and this is why poverty is not as prevalent in the North as claimed because population is not right in some states. Kaduna had 100k waec registration when Kano had 66k and Oyo had like 71k but some other stats still show Kano leading Kaduna but never Lagos in any stats. Only a large volume of data can assist in arriving at an educated conclusion but the fact that SS is second only to the SW can not be denied. NW has no real answer to SS cities. |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 3:33pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: i know there is under age registration, that is why i will never use the statistics for the core north,
Beside, Benue people do not think like the core north, they do not have the same ideas with them, so their voter’s registration process is almost like that of the south. They do not register children there.
Voter apathy will only hold sway in coming out to actually vote, but many people do go out to collect their voters card, majority of households has it,just that they will not go out to vote. You can’t have it without registering for it. Many have it as a means of identification outside the voting need for it.
What is wrong with your waec stats is that majority of students in Benue state actually go to farm from Class and many do not even write waec as they are great farmers.
Voter’s registration gives an idea of the total number of adults in a state, when the you add the number of children and some adults who did not register, you should have an idea of the population of the state. Most times just double, the population of the voter’s registration or double two times and half, you should have an idea of the population of that state
Little wonder, it’s very certain that more populous states always have more voter’s registration, excepts for the north where child registration is prevalent. It’s largely true for southern states and north central states with southern mentality.
That is why Lagos has seven million registered voters and rivers, delta , oyo which are just about half of Lagos has between 3.3 to 3.5 million voter’s registration. All states have kids who don't go to school, it maybe more though in some places but waec registration is a good tracker than voters registration by far. Lagos is up to four times of those states you mentioned apart from Oyo and voters registration is saying otherwise, it is therefore not a good metric. I think you can use waec stats to compare states like Benue, Osun and Lagos among themselves but maybe with Kano, there will be issues, even in the East there will be issues because of their apprenticeship system which is similar to Almajri of the Hausa. However, I will ignore the issues to have something to work with |
Health › Re: Nigerian Doctors Relocating To Sierra Leone, Gambia To Earn $4,000 Wages, CMDs by lawani(m): 3:24pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
They can't pay that much in those countries |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 3:06pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: how can waec registration tell better of the population of a state than voter’s registration, please help me understand your logic, Many of these people do not go to school, remember we are not talking about the financial strength of these people, but their numerical strength, it is one pvc per person, you cannot register twice There is under age registration as well as registration apathy but waec registration is an indication of the population of school age kids which is an indication of the total population. NIN registration can also be okay as you need NIN to have a bank account. BVN is also good but voter registration can not be trusted |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:56pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: It is not true o, Tivs are many o, they are even indigenous to plateau state, they have two local government there, shedam and one other one. Their migratory population in Kano and Laduna is really high, it is not what we can wish away Anywhere they are indigenous with traditional rulership and territory not contested with them is Tiv land and should be in one state |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:54pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: this one is not tenable as many people do not go to school in those places, the Voters registration figures is more tenable, Benue has 2.8 million, that is about 3 million voter’s registration already. Waec registration which is paid for is more tenable than voter registration which is free. |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:13pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
This will show you the relative population and IGR potential of each state
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Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 1:29pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: Ijaws from a fair perspective are not more than Tivs, Bayelsa is the least populated state in the country and would not pass for a senatorial district in some states.
Alongside with that, In delta state, where they are also present, the Urhobos are the largest controlling about 35 % of the population of Delta state. Aniomas are next and they have about 30% of the population of the state. Then you have the Isokos and the Itsekiris with about ten percent each. You see at most even in delta state, Ijaws would be left with 15%.
In rivers state, you have ikwerre and ogoni which would be together about 4 million combined. Then you have Ekpeyes, Ogbas, Etche, Omuma, Ndoki, Ndoni, Oyigbo, Egbema,
When you check the population of these groups together mentioned above, you will see the combined population of these groups cannot be less than 2.5 million.
Then when you put these Igbo groups together with Ikwerre, alongside with Ikwerre, you have some solid 4 million people. When you pit them alongside with Ogoni, you will be looking at six million already.
Benue state is over six million people and when you put the about 800 to 1 million Ijaws in delta at most(i am exaggerating this now to cover for their population in Edo state and Akwa Ibom. Then when you add the population of Ijaws in Rivers state which would not be more than 1.5 million . You have about 2.5 million in Delta and Rivers.
When you put their population in Rivers and delta state together, which would be at most 2.5,when you add that to the 2 million Ijaws in Bayelsa state. That will give you at most a figure of 4.5 million in the south south. Arogbo Ijaws in Ondo state are at most 200,000 people. That is a combined population of about 4.7 million people. That will just be about 80 of the population of Benue state, which the Tivs are already 80% of .
The Tivs also have population of about twenty percent in Nassarawa. As they control one senatorial district there. Even in Taraba, they have a population of about fifteen percent, and they also have very high migratory populations in Kano and kaduna states.
Where else can you find the Ijaws in large numbers outside the niger delta they are already indigenous, it is a clear win for the Tivs. The total population of Tivs in Nigeria are in excess of 8million. The population of Ijaws in Nigeria are no more than 5.5 million Population on Tiv land is actually the only property of Tiv nation because if you count your population in other places, what about other people on your land too?. I have people in Makurdi as my brother in law's Aunty is married there. So when estimating population of Tiv, it is only the cities and towns under their control that can be used but if they start controlling their land, they will return and the true weight of their population will be known. However Tiv is a heavy weight because their post independence leader J S Tarka is almost as well known as any other national figure. |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 10:45am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: i thought you are talking about the present population of the Yoruba communities in the south south and not what they will be in future. They have people is my point and everybody should look back home as much as possible |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 10:38am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: tiv is among first six largest group in Nigeria,
The first five largest groups are Hausas, Igbos, Yorubas in no particular order . Then Fulani, kanuri, then Tiv before Ibibios, then Ijaws, nupes etc Fulani and Hausa are same or which city is under Fulani control?. Gwari people are also a lot but figures can only be reliable in a working country. If Yoruba is one country in west Africa, it will surpass even 120 million because Togo and Benin can join as they are and that is the way meaningful progress can be guaranteed. Most Beninoise and a large percentage of Togolese already speak Yoruba even up to over 50 communities in Eastern Ghana but breaking up Nigeria is the first step. |
Politics › Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by lawani(m): 5:53am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Government Revenue profile is the number one determinant of if or not a country will be successful and not democracy. A country of 70 percent farmers should have seventy percent revenue from farming |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:57am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: who left that is returning? There is no town without a diaspora population and one illustrious citizen with means can establish one industry in conjunction with others where up to one thousand people will directly work. Those people will need many services including food production, school for kids and many others and the population will keep growing. A population of 20k can become 200k in two decades or even one and the land owners will still remain in their position of privilege |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:52am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: what i meant especially for the Idomas is that 70 percent of them do not stay in their state giving the tivs position of overwhelming majority in their state.
Igedes might be more than 500,000 . I meant they can’t have more than 500,000 in their land. Since you said they are many in your place, It would suggest they travel alot, and their population all over Nigeria might pit the combined population of Igedes to 800,000 or more That five hundred thousand is like the population of Barbados. The money exchanging hands per day is up to one billion naira. They can start from there easily. Igedes are many here and many of them speak Yoruba well but they still go home to return later. It is the same with Ijesa too and all of humanity. Once in a while, new ones come that are fresh and speak no Yoruba. Even Tiv, Idoma must be like that too |
Phones › Re: Nigerian States By Number Of Registered Phone And Internet Connections lines by lawani(m): 2:46am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Okada691: Yorubas are not up to 1 million in the south east, it is not even close to. The east is the most homogeneous region in Nigeria. Anybody that bears or calls on Chukwu or chi cannot be less than 4 million. Igbos from whatever divide cannot be less than 4 million. And that is a very okay figure In today’s world. Igbos in the entire west are more than northerners and south southerners . In the entire west, they are over 7 million. They have very sizeable populations in Ogun state and Ibadan too.
many Igbos can boast of 1 million Naira, in fact they have the largest middle class in Nigeria. They have more okay citizens than any other tribe in Nigeria. If they tell you how much they make in their shops daily. You will want to be an apprentice under them.
Who said produce buying in the east is controlled by the Yorubas, where is the reports?
Who told you Yorubas have more in everything. There are more poor Yorubas than there are Igbos. Igbo enterprise system is one of the mightiest in the world and it is a blessing to that tribe. If you doubt the financial strength of the Igbos, go to the east and see high rise buildings everywhere from Awka to Onitsha to Nnewi, to Abiriba even in their thick villages, but when you compare to Yoruba towns and cities not heavily inhabited by foreigners, you see a village like building and brown roof’s everywhere.
The densest part of Lagos are settled by the Igbos, even in badagry, epe and ikorodu, you will still find them in substantial numbers. Igbos control more than 50 percent of the total trading in Lagos state. Up to 60 percent of the total shipped goods come through the Igbos.
Post a link where numbers of students were counted. Not students associations as many persons might not want to associate with their students community. In my school uniben, up till i graduated I was never a member of my ethnic association.
Igbos are not mainly in trading, as much as they are in trading, they are also in movies, music and the comedy industry. Both as producers, editors, directors, writers, etc in my opinion, that is the biggest employer of labor in Lagos.
They also have a sizeable population among artisans and even in the corporate world. As ceos, as civil servants, workers, teachers, etc. It is not about being dominated by Igbos, they have their sizeable population in every of the craft you call out there. You also have the Akwa cross groups- Ibibios, Oron,Annang, Efik, would not be less than a million. You also have the combination of Urhobos, Binis, Isokos, itsekiris,Esans, Etsakos, Ijaws, which would have a combined population of about 2 million. The Hausas and other northern groups are also there, where is the eighty percent coming from? Yorubas will staggeringly make up 40 percent of lagos as a single majority.
There is a super big deal in Lagos entertainment, it is the largest in Africa, and the third largest in the word. I mean the nollywood now so it’s a big deal. And it’s largely fueled by non Yorubas. And It has dragged a lot and lot of people to Lagos. Mention any kannywood actor or actress, i don’t know of anyone, but i know over 50 nollywood actors and actresses. And they are respected in every parts of the globe in the world.
Lagos is far more than cosmopolitan than ph or Abuja. Tell me the value of Portharcourt aside being an oil city. I watched several countless interviews, whereby people who would have hitherto not come to Lagos came to Lagos because they wanted to become something in the comedy, movies and the music industry. The number of Igbos in Lagos would fill up the entire city of port harcourt and its suburbs and add Yenagoa to it. It is not even a close arrangement, the number of Igbos and Akwa cross groups in Portharcourt are larger than Yorubas in port harcourt.
If there is proper census where state of origin would feature, i am very sure you would be shocked at the number of Igbos in Nigeria.
0.1 bawo ?up to 30 percent of investment in Lagos are Igbo owned.
Igbos are at least twice the population of Yorubas in the north. Aside kaduna main town, where the Yorubas might upscale the Igbos a little, everywhere i went to in Kano and kaduna, the Igbos were clearly more People can not be dominated on their land unless conquered then they will gradually lose their language and identity over time. There is therefore no possibility of Yoruba dominating Igbos vice versa and etc. Even as a majority, domination will be impossible without conquering the natives. Igbos are not controlling all importation because what is being imported can be listed and we know who controls what. 70 percent of vehicle importation is Yoruba controlled. Thirty percent of electronics too. Igbos control spare parts. Clothes is shared. Jewellery is probably Yoruba and Hausa, Fuel nko?. London used phones?. Computers?. Brewery feed?. Fiish feed?. Imported wines? Stock for pharmaceuticals?. Do the calculations by yourself and you will see that Igbo is not certain of 20 percent. There is no area in Lagos under Igbo control. They live in the midst of Yorubas. Rivers is around 45 percent of Lagos and that is huge. If it were up to Lagos, then Yorubas inside would be like the population of a state. Therefore everybody is more or less equally dispersed and not only Igbos. If on a per Capita basis then Urhobos in the SW are more than Igbos. Igbos only beat them with gross. Then Nollywood exists in the East as well. Upper Iweka road Onitsha is Nollywood and films can be shot anywhere. Market is all over the world. Size of the film industry of each nation after Nigeria will be roughly proportional to the population. Lagos will remain the way it is. Nollywood is comprised of Kannywood, Yorubawood and Upper Iweka road Onitsha and other segments. It will just disintegrate. I don't really watch even Yoruba not to talk of Kannywood as I don't understand Hausa but they have the market which they serve that makes them an industry. Lagos is not more cosmopolitan than PH, Abuja or Kaduna by any means. As Igbos are coming to Lagos and Yoruba land, Yoruba are also headed East. It cancels out but SW is more than double the SE in population. Igbo owned assets in Yoruba land may be below ten percent of 0.1 percent. You will agree if you really understand what asset means. Is it buildings you want to count?. Of which they don't have up to five out of 1000 before we go to farms and other means of production. |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:02am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: what do you mean? Many of these towns you say are small can host even the Capital of Nigeria. In a normal country they will develop themselves if they have autonomy. Their people will return |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 1:59am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: Igedes are not more than 500,000 bros , don’t let anyone deceive you, they have presence in just two local government, Oju and Obi, their population in 2006 census was about 300,000. Idoma cannot be more than 1.5 million and most of them do not reside in the state Igedes are plenty in Ijesa here is why I know them. Urhobo are also plenty. Igede is a nation from the way they are here. If 500k, they are still a nation and if Idoma is 1.5 million, it means the two are close to forty percent of Benue state. Both groups in a normal settings will have states and governors. They surpass many UN member nations |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 1:47am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: The only tribe that are Yoruboid speaking in delta state is itsekiris. And Ugbodu but they largely speak Igbo alongside their native tongue and identify as Anioma. In Edo, the Yorubas there are not more than 100k Really the land is all that matters. With freedom, the people will return to build their land |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 1:45am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: they are more my brother, they also have Gboko and Several other settlements. Besides Benue is far bigger than Kwara, Benue has almost 2.8 million voter’s registration while Kwara has just a little over one.five million Benue is more than Kwara actually but they have Idoma, Igede and many others as well. Those people especially Igede are very plenty too. They will be over one million on their land. They are comparable to if not more than Urhobo. Kwara too is big. It is as big as many states put together. I don't know which of Kwara and Benue is bigger but Benue is more populated |
Politics › Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 1:34am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: Are you counting the entire Delta and Edo state as part of south west? No. Just the small towns that are Yoruba speaking. There are a number of them. |