₦airaland Forum

Gajagojo:
Lagos economy is growing. It is now over $100 billion
That is double what it was 10 years ago
Can you tell us how many countries in the world have achieved that?
your premise that they have been unable to drive growth is untrue

Real economy size is proportional to population size and the other determinant is the level of economic development which implies the variety of goods and services you can produce or are able to produce. Any other type of growth is fake growth

Isn't the normal practice to blame the IMF and world bank for the falling value of the naira?

davidtuzy:
They are not Evil, it all depends on The Value ur adding to the Company ...

A Cleaner and an Accountant do not have Same Value ∆∆∆
Likewise A Security Guard and A Graphics Designer of the same Company are of Different Value

°°° Moral Lesson: Give Value to Urself, Become Valuable .... { People Value You When u Possess Value }

It is also dependent on the capitalization of the company, the organisation too as well as if or not minimum wage laws exist in the country.

Ttipsy:
Okay let your SW stop receiving the one Nigeria oil allocation coming from SS and SE

The allocations are not helping anybody since all neighboring countries have higher wages and are better developed

9japride:
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Buhari that try to defend those boko haram people in addition to programmes created for repented BH guys was still respected. What are boko haram really fighting for?
The present security challenges in south is just political motivated. An average Igbo man will always prefer to have he's own country. Peter was the better candidate among all other contestants. Though, he's not a saint but he relates well with the common man and he's a business man. Majority of those our politicians eating from government money. Such people can never never make a good leader. Lagos is well positioned in a way that even a dummy will perform well.
Everyone should continue with their selfish goals, such acts can never make a country great. Anywhere that has a high percentage of injustice is never always peaceful or progressive. That's just the truth. People still carry grudges of 1966 coup and the war too in their mind, such unsettled matters can negatively affect the peace and unity among the people. We all should all learn to apologize and also forgive one another. I am patiently waiting for the north to criticize Tinubu government. They never made any statement when Buhari was just ruling the country anyhow.
No one should listen to them, since the mindset of 'we can take everything and others can go to hell' is what everyone likes.

Even this Peter Obi you are talking about was asked on Arise tv by Reuben Abati how he became a billionaire and he was not able to say anything! Can such a man make a good leader? Can such a man rise in any serious society?. The only advantage Lagos have is population and if you have a quarter of Lagos population which many states have and you use your advantage of land which Lagos does not have then you will beat Lagos. After all all foods consumed in Lagos are imported from other states. For me any governor of five million population state that is waiting for allocation can not be the President that will change Nigeria. States have power over income tax and that is all they need to change their state. Kaduna's economy is almost as big as Lagos because they registered 100k WAEC students when Lagos did 140k and the next was around 70k or over. If a governor of Kaduna can't change Kaduna then how can the person inspire others to change Nigeria?. Once again I am not in support of Tinubu for personal reasons but only quota system can put Peter Obi ahead of him.

If you have a bigger population then you will have a bigger economy. By my estimates, SW is highest populated followed by SS and all stats show this to be true. If you weigh their cities against others you will reach the same conclusion. It is therefore about population nothing more than that. All cities are equal apart from a few that are a bit more costlier to live in including Lagos, Abuja and PH

9japride:
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Though, I have already said my own. Nobody should be deceived by statement that the envy and hate is not real. The enemy usually creates a sense of calm then he/she will attack the victim unaware.
The present times in this our generation is full of funny characters and politics gives a lot of people opportunities to carry out their personal or group bad intentions towards those they hate.
Those people from south east who do create funny topics too, I believe is mostly in response to those attacking them with mischievous posts.
For example, a northern will prefer to associate with those from Chad, Niger republic etc rather than a fellow southern Nigerian. Is that nice?
Or is it the west that will rather work for the north rather than it's fellow southern brother?
Oppression, insincerity and injustice usually create bad blood among people. If we let those greedy politicians from all regions to use the people for the own selfish gains, then no one is to blame.
For example, what the south west did by having the president doesn't show good brotherly love. They where once in the seat of the president, it could have been morally right to support the south east especially to have it this time. But due to normal 'chancing' ways of the average man, they can take everything and others can go to hell.
That's not how to build a nation. Same thing usually happens in the education institutes regarding SUG elections and also oppression from cultist.
They eventually carry such oppressive mindset to the national level.
Our society needs serious brain resetting.

Problem is who are they going to support among Igbos is the issue and if you check all indices then most successful politician in this 4th republic is Tinubu though I have my own reservations against him but Lagos is the most successful and numbers don't lie and if your state is depending on allocations then you are not a successful governor. Then if you are Yoruba or Hausa can you vote for Peter Obi who is hobnobbing with Nnamdi Kanu given what Nnamdi Kanu broadcasts on his radio Biafra?. If any Igbo politician distinguishes self then the person will be irresistible but no one so far. Then if every group is in charge of their security and economy who cares who is President but if not, you have to watch it carefully. If they want Nigeria to work then free all minorites from oppression, give state on demand, allow state police and let there be a proper federation with states remitting to the center and representation allocated by tax contribution to the center. Any other thing is oppression.

9japride:
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The issue of envy is real. The country needs to come to a round table and everyone should voice out their mind. Nigeria could have been a very powerful country if not for tribalism and religious influences. You need to go to other social medias and see what fellow countrymen are posting about Igbos. The young Igbo people should be cautious when dealing with people who don't wish them well.
Those always saying Igbos will never be president are capable of causing bodily harm to a south Easterner if given the opportunity. Such evil minded people if given political power can create policies to limit the growth of Eastern Nigeria. You should understand that we are all humans and every human is capable of anything especially wickedness.
The constant attack of south east in nairaland is not normal. Must it always be about the Igbos? Envy is the driving force.
Go to Abuja and Lagos especially on Sundays and see the beautiful Igbos and their nice cars going their normal business, but such sight creates resentment.
I really wonder what goes in the mind of those creating hateful topics in nairaland everyday? If they are not getting paid for such childish acts, then it should be a normal wicked and hateful behaviour.
Some will say they are just joking and no one should take it to heart, that's a big lie. Why can't nairaland be a place where we all can relate with each in a positive manner?

The envy is in your mind. Most Igbos are struggling both in Lagos and in the SE. What do Igbos have for people to envy them? and nobody has ever attacked them in Lagos but the ones that feel people don't like them should relocate to other places where people like them. Even if they have which they don't, not every body is moved by material things. On this naira land, what you will find are Igbos creating threads and making statements to cause non existent division among Yorubas far more than Yorubas doing the same thing to Igbos. What you accuse others of is what you are guilty of.

9japride:
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I don't want to argue with you. You think south is happy being with people who don't value hard work rather benefiting from quota system?
The oil/gas, human resources, tourists sites, agricultural Lands, solid minerals etc are enough for the south eastern part of Nigeria.
The hatred most regions have towards south east is mainly out of envy. Na Africa we dey and we all understand the mindset of majority of people. So forgot this long talk. I am very sure in future things will work out fine. It will be nice you guys control your zones and south east controls theirs.
Normally, south eastern politicians are taking advantage of Abuja connection obstruct to south east having their own country. The political structure is so messed and it will be very difficult for the country to catch up with developed countries.

Why are you saying people envy you when nothing shows you are better than them? It is insultive if you don't know. All groups control their land and over seventy percent of real estate therein as well as SMEs, industries and etc. As a person you can be better through self development and as a group it is only by developing the land under your control so there is no reason to say any group is envying another but all group should continue improving themselves as there is always room for improvement. Why should Hausa envy Igbo or vice versa? And etc

Odibembem:
I completely disagree with u. The FG is yet to scratch d surface on d taxes it can take. Nigeria has over 3m registered companies, yes maybe just 500k of them are functional but govt stimulate 1m coys to become functional by tying lots of activities only to corporate bodies. If 1m coys file annual returns per year at 10k, that's N100b. We ha e not talked yet of coy taxes. What is our VAT penetration? About d least in d world. Name one transaction u do where u voluntarily pay VAT apart from when u buy from big supermarkets. U fix ur car without paying VAT, u even buy a car without paying VAT. Those are huge opportunities. Not to talk of Capital Gains Tax we have never paid though most CGT of individuals are for states except in d FCT and corporate organisation. Are we to talk of wiholding tax? Do u know when u pay ur rent on any property, there is an attendant WHT?

You fail to see the point. How much is 100 billion a year for a country like Nigeria of 200 million people?. It is just like 200 million dollars. Corporate tax will always be insignificant because it is only declared profit that can be taxed and VAT is positive and negative and you can actually bill government as owing you VAT. The most viable form of taxation is personal income tax with the taxable minimum wage imposed on all employers of labor. Once you do this you become a developed country

Odibembem:
Even if a coy declares a loss, it must file it's annual returns and annual returns are not free. FG can make it flat rate of 10k to file your annual return and without it u can't operate a bank account. That forces everyone to pay d 10k for annual returns. Also coys bidding for govt contracts must show evidence of payment of coy tax, govt can say they can't give any contract to a loss making coy cos it means they are not being well run. Also at d point of doing change of ownership for any vehicle, govt should demand for VAT and Capital Gains Tax which should be on fair mkt value of d car. If d person claims he didn't buy and that it was a gift, then a form of inheritance tax applies. Lots of tax govt is not taking, both FG, state and local

10k per annum is still too insignificant and it would be better to give the corporate tax to states and then states pay up a percentage of total revenue and that would be more orderly. No country base revenue on company income tax because it is easy for them to dodge . The FG has exhausted it's revenue opportunities and the onus is on the LGs and the states. Lagos can generate 150 billion naira per month if they capture everybody and the rest of the states can generate over one trillion per month, if they pay ten percent up they can sustain the FG easily even without oil money

The idea that Igbos are most dispersed in Nigeria is wrong but they may be the ones to feel more relaxed in other places. Here that I am in Ilesa the two non Yorubas with shops on this street are two ladies. One from Akwa Ibom and one from Nassarawa. Before you see Igbos you will get to center of the town but I have also met a bus driver and an okada rider. Oba Yoruba say 500k Yorubas are in Anambra alone which is almost ten percent of the population and he might be right. Not to talk of PH. Aside all that the break-up of Nigeria does not mean that anybody will relocate or even lose their jobs at all. They will continue working or doing business wherever they are. Break up is mainly for security reasons to be more orderly promote your culture and etc. There can even be an arrangement to share the oil money but I think the oil should be taken by the UN

Odibembem:
You think so? How many people operate corporate bank accounts yet have never paid coy tax or filed annual returns? The govt can make it mandatory that to operate ur bank account every year, u must file your annual returns. And annual returns would mean u pay some tax. How many of us have ever paid BAT when we buy electronics at d mkt or paid capital gains tax when we sell our second hand cars. And u say there is no avenue for FH to further raise tax? My brother this govt if it really wants to will double it's current revenue in less than four years.

Most companies declare loss or very little profit. It is easy to dodge corporate tax. In most organized nations it is more or less negligible, the normal way is fix minimum wage and impose it on all employer of labor then take personal income tax from source and in Nigeria only states have the constitutional right to do that and only Lagos does it with seriousness. Local governments too can make money from tenement, advert rates, radio/tv licenses and produce tax. All are gold mines

Itsekiri should have a state to preserve their heritage, so also Urhobo etc. Then any Edoid component of Itsekiri was gotten from Urhobo their neighbor and not Benin. The Benin capital was a metropolis that spoke the same language in the past as Itsekiri. History should always be recanted correctly. Benin city was a Yoruba city of around 50,000 population but in the suburbs today's Benin language was spoken. It was when the empire ceased to be an empire that the present Benin people entered the capital. However they are owners of the land and we're the one that accepted a Yoruba monarchy who named the city Benin and brought tens of thousands of Yoruba people who built the Benin empire. Portuguese and Spanish records show Yoruba being spoken in Benin and one of them described how the Imale okun was venerated by saying Mo be o mo be o imale okun mo be o which is a Yoruba language. Therefore the Benin that came to Iwere spoke the same language as the Itsekiri. The same is true for the Benin that went to every other place but the Benin of today are Edoid people. The Oba is Edo with Yoruba ancestry. That is the only correction I can make to your thesis. For having 256 Ifa signs Itsekiri are clearly more culturally related to modern Yoruba than the Igala who have only 16. The Igala system is like that of a non Orunmila diviner in Yoruba land

Faiththatworks:
Hmmmmmmm........
For those of us who supported Asiwaju 100% I'm not suprised he's acting this way,but I'm very suprised he's playing his hand this early as they say in poker.
Asiwaju is a leopard that will never change his skin colours. His style of leadership is very very predictable.
1)
I'm sure Asiwaju will work with not less 3 party chairman before the end of his tenure,his obsession with being in charge of the party structure will lead to regular change of leadership at the party level.
2)
I'm sure Asiwaju will bring in private tax collectors through the back door to increase revenue,that should happen within the next 12 months.
3)
I expect some kind of arrangement with the oil producing communities that will allow them have a % of their oil revenue,expect to see a lot of non state players e.g Asari,tompolo and other ex combatants being very visible in the next 4 years.
4)
Surely Asiwaju will go after his adversaries with the power of the state,I always wonder why El-Rufai feels he can be in the inner circle of power in Asiwaju regime,I'm definitely sure Alh Ganduje will feature more prominently than EL-Rufai.
Asiwaju has never liked men or women who are too ambitious, El-Rufai is the complete package of people He dreads, Intelligent and ambitious people.
Finally my advise to Asiwaju and his handlers,Lagos is not Nigeria,he should drop his vindictive nature and start being a statesman.
Going after your party men just 6 weeks into your tenure will end up starting fires he will end up battling throughout his 4 years.
God bless Asiwaju
God bless Nigeria

There is no avenue for the FG to raise more revenue than they already have and the only thing possible is for states and LG to raise their own revenue and be like Lagos state. Any state with five million people can raise one quarter of Lagos revenue, attract investors with venture capital and etc as Lagos is doing. Any state can do it but the FG can not be able to increase their revenue anymore

seanwilliam:
bro, stop twisting reality just to appear smart.
99.99% chances are that he can’t meet women with money while earning 25k in naija… stop watching nollywood movies. To catch quality women who have things going on for them, you need to be doing well and position yourself in a viable location .. bro reality is different from what you read online or watch from movies.. share your experience let’s hear you !

Of course who you meet depends on where you are, where you mix and etc and that includes the internet and etc we are not in the nineteenth century and even in the nineteenth century, a well cultured and intelligent slave can marry a princess free of charge. However what you can achieve depends majorly on what you think you can achieve but to think you must be financially well off as a man to marry is not a good policy to carry about in your head

Vickho:
if I package well but tell them the truth that I'm job hunting and starting life, can they help?
I'm referring to the rich babes

If they like something about you in your character, they certainly will, some will even get you a job

Phylmode:
You manage it by staying single.

What can really help him is a financially well off lady. Will you advise he refuses a greenlight from a lady like that?

Alternative Universes

Alternative universes are different paths things could have taken to occur. We however know that the most beneficial thing for the majority always happen at the end and this is conceptualized in Adam Smith's theory of the invisible hand. The idea that we live in a matrix is also conceptualized in the Yoruba saying Aye o le pa kadara da, won kan Le fa owo ago sehin ni. The world can not change your destiny but they can delay it. Regarding your destiny, you are the main decider even if you can not remember when you unconsciously made the decision. The other minor decider is your community. For example, if you want to kill yourself, it will be almost impossible for someone to stop you successfully, if you love someone who hates you, then you have already aligned yourself against yourself. Therefore even on a personal scale, things are predetermined.
According to that Yoruba saying things are predetermined even on a personal scale while Adam Smith's theory shows that it is also so on any scale including the global scale.
If we now go back to alternative universes, we are talking about different paths that things could have taken.

For example, if four people are contesting for the post of King, the oracle will predict how the reign of each will be to the Kingmakers if they are chosen as the substantive monarch and these predictions rank as alternative universes for that nation and it is up to the kingmakers to use their God given thinking faculties to decide what is best for the nation. God will never help them to do that. One monarch might bring war due to his or her lack of diplomatic skills while another might be capable of attracting investors because of his or her charisma. It can not be denied that the character of a leader is a major determinant of the well being of the led and of the nation at large.
Take my own life for instance, I was destined to meet people on the internet and the best people in my life were met on the internet, I therefore would have met Barbara Bush on the internet who was frantically looking for the African man in her marriage prediction. However she found me before the internet because my parents reported me to a human ritualist pastor in the person of Enoch Adeboye and her granddad knew the implication of that. He then joined us together with her under a veil using a pseudo name. My mother especially served to make sure Barbara found me in 2000 when she was eighteen in January of that year and I was nineteen. The existence of my Mum and Enoch Adeboye therefore served to hasten things up but Barbara would have found me on social media herself in 2007 as did other people but seven years late. If my mother did not report me to Enoch Adeboye, he too would have found me on social media and he attacked me because he found me on social media, not because of my parents' report. This can not be denied because David Oyedepo who I was not reported to also took it upon himself to send hired assassins after me and the assassins were massacred as triggered by onlookers. That is therefore how it works. Things that God wants to happen can be delayed but they can ultimately not be denied. Without Enoch Adeboye in the picture, I would have crossed to the USA for my postgraduate studies after substantially growing my business as did someone like Barrister Jimoh Ibrahim and due to my online publications, I would have met Barbara Bush and today I would be married but the kids made by the Chinese with my DNA would not have existed unless with other DNA.
Why did Enoch Adeboye and David Oyedepo attack me?. Because they saw that my onslaught against religion is irresistible and that it would succeed within a short time!.It was an intellectual assault. I pointed out in my poem 'I will rather burn in hell!' that religionists are not fanatical because of the fear of hell but rather because they have been brainwashed!. The poem was a ruthless satire. I then followed with another poem 'Blown by bias' to show that we are all susceptible and under the same sort of influence. There were other sarcastic comments and poems by me online and being evil, they decided (independently) that they must sponsor my elimination as they have done to many others that did not bow to them before me.
Without their existence, I would have been married today and the globe would be prosperous and without religion in an alternate universe.

That can't be possible in PH at all or anywhere else sef unless the person is being fed.

franchasofficia:
Anybody earning less than 1million naira a month in Nigeria is poor, even though the person might not know that he or she is poor.



But some of those girls earning 50k salary a month which gives 600k naira a year are not poor due to their gender that gives them an edge to earn extra income from prospective lovers, toasters, sugardaddies, boyfriends, hookups, etc. Such that at the end of the year if you check their total income, it may even be up to 5million or more a year depending on how hot and free the girl is in mingling with men

You people just like to talk anyhow. So Profs, doctors, army generals are poor?. You better shut up

OperationalVehi:
it is small and hardly takes care of anything but then again, no one will dash me 32k.

you may not understand if you haven't stayed a whole year unemployed starving and broke.

You can manage if no transport costs and you are single,you can even save and that is what is most important

Wainey:
rent in banana island is 20m above.
Two months salary can cover that, so yes you can live in BI with N10m

To stay in banana island you must earn salary as if you are in western Europe but all that will soon be corrected as it was not like that in the past

As soon as the Earth became habitable, there was an Olofin Aye at Ode Ife which became Otu Ife and the first Olofin Aye was Oduduwa. That is what is in Yoruba theology and history as handed down orally over millennia. There was no time there were no Yoruba Kings and there was no time the Yoruba were full time hunter gatherers. However hunters used to go on long term hunting expeditions and some still do so today but in the past when population was smaller and game plentiful, it was more common, it was a profession and those hunters were as nature savvy and aligned as any other people anywhere in the world. They were also as wild as any nomad. They used to live as nomads in the wild for lengthy periods before returning home. The traditional Oyo/Ijesa settlement pattern is a capital city surrounded by smaller towns and villages under the capital but with each one having Ogboni lodges and local administration reporting to the capital. Since the Yoruba have been living like this for over ten thousand years then it can be assumed that the ancestors of Nri Igbos used to live like this in the past since there is clear evidence of language similarity with the Yoruba and it is only words like Eze for King and many others that we have no idea from where it entered their lexicon and we also have our own words not shared with them as well. Those unshared words were gotten from extant groups that mixed independently with the new groups formed after the parent stock of YEAI separated maybe five thousand years ago. YEAI is Yoruba Edo Akoko Igboid. It is obvious that the Nri Igbo deliberately made it a policy not to build cities so that they will not need to have Kings and their policy was break up a village to found a new one immediately the population shoots over like two thousand people. They multiplied rapidly in the forests over centuries as a result of establishing village after village. However they soon started encountering people with a more complex and hierarchical social organisation from all directions including from the Benin empire the Igala the Ibibio, the Idioma, the Edoid and etc. Overtime these people adopted the Igbo language not by force but because they had to deal with the Igbos and the Igbos were many. I mean the Igbos with the Nri culture. The Nri Igbo do not need to be more than thirty percent of total population to be able to effect this language change. The Anglo Saxons that stamped the English language on Britain were not more than thirty percent of the total population at the time according to DNA tests. The Egyptians that brought Kemitic Egyptian component of Yoruba may not be up to that percentage of total population when they arrived West Africa. There are many such examples. Therefore Igbo speaking people can possibly align into traditional states that does not reckon with present borders within Nigeria and there will be a workable unity if there is mutual respect. Any federating unit should have its own security and should also be able to pull out of the union at any time. People who are not Nri should not be compelled to observe the Nri culture as that is not their culture and the ones practicing Edoid, Ibibioid or Yoruboid cultures too should not impose it on the Nri groups. It is also possible that non Igboid groups in the SE are practicing the Nri culture because there are Yoruboid and Idomoid ethnic groups in some SE states where the Nri culture is predominant. There is no reason for people who already speak Igbo not to join an Igbo country if they remain in control of their land.

emmaodet:
There are a sizeable middle class in Nigeria.

Any household earning $1,000 equivalent in Nigeria is in the middle class. Middle middle class.
Aside the 3 big cities in Nigeria - Lagos, PH, Abuja, any household of 500k per month is middle class on other towns and cities.
My area as an example, average decent 3 bedroom goes for 300-400k.
Average good primary school is 50k per term upward, land is 1.5m upward.
So a household of 6m per year should be able to manage their life very well.
To the best of my knowledge, the bulk of Nigeria's middle class are in the informal sector and not formal.
The percentage of salary earners earning 500k and above won't be more than 100k people max cutting across all sectors - oil and gas, maritime, aviation, IT, telecommunications, banking etc

Intelligent submission but salary earners earning 500k per month are higher in number than that

sylve11:
You can't call a person earning 500k as a middle class.

The cost of living is very expensive these days. especially when you have mouths to cater for.

Except you produce some of the foods you eat and still earn 500k, that's when you can call yourself a middle class.

Times are hard and if you're not favored, you will keep asking yourself what's the essence of living.

So if you are staying in Ilorin, Enugu, Ilesa, Owerri or Ibadan and earning that, you are a poor person? Is a Prof or medical doctor poor?

potent5:
Con artist.

Con artist is too mild for a serial murderer.

The governor of Kwara state too must do the same thing because majority of the state is isese enclave and Ilorin the emirate will be disestablished before next Yoruba new year. Infact religion will end globally this year. Practice barbarism only in your private space

Freedom of religion does not include freedom to publicly change humans into terrorists. Freedom to practice Islam and Christianity should be restricted to private and not public spaces.

computer0810:
Mention the community in SS that will join biafra 😂😂😂 there's no tribe that will prefer to be with ibos than yoruba's, u sef if u no be igbo and u r to chose where to stay through out ur life between ibos and yoruba's where u go chose?😂😂

Nobody will join ibos to become minority or osu😂 ibo land is landlocked without access to sea, hw will ur land survive, at d mercy of Nigeria

If you speak the same language with Igbos and you have a constitution vesting land never to be sold but only used and each group have their own police then unity will work. There will only be a problem if borders are not recognized. Even between husband and wife borders should be recognized. If Nigeria breaks and some Igboid people don't join Biafra immediately, there is a likelihood they will join in the future. Then the idea that Igbos are the only one dispersed in the country is wrong. Igbos are visible because they are mainly in the markets. Oba Yoruba in Anambra say 500k Yoruba are living there meaning almost ten percent of the population. They will be traders, artisans, federal civil servants, bank workers and etc