₦airaland Forum

sukkot:
thank you , much appreciated, but I seriously don't think the solution is money. Europeans are not money obsessed like that however you mentioned what the solution is which is WE BLACKS NEED TO IMPROVE OUR HOME COUNTRIES. That's the only way we would get any kind of respect and of course like you said HAVE SOMETHING OF OUR OWN

Yes what is owned as a nation by way of organisation technology know how etc are what a nation can be proud of, not individual achievements by nationals in foreign countries. However it is not a black thing as they are a number of very wealthy black majority countries and the average African country is like Eastern Europe, China, India etc only smaller by population and with a higher dependency ratio because of an exploding population. Nigeria is the black majority country that is the odd one out though it is not necessarily the most corrupt in the world but it is at least among the most challenged with dearth of infrastructure, lack of strong and inspirational leadership and etc

Jashub:
That is a lie . Where were the weapons of mass destruction that Iraq was harboring? Or what about Libya? What about Afganistan...? All those countries are in shambles all because of American imperialism. I just thank God for Russia and China who are standing up to the nonsense of America

It was not a matter of WMDs but Saddam thinking he is sovereign to do anyhow. Nobody is sovereign to do anyhow. Pakistan is a Muslim country more fundamental than Iraq and they have wmds however they are under control and are not sovereign to do anyhow. If you say a mad man should be free to do what he pleases with his mother's corpse, be reminded that he may opt to roast and eat it! And that would be an eyesore. Nobody is sovereign to do anyhow

Jashub:
Three thousand words is not basically the same language oga , because that is like saying German is English . And besides, Jesus spoke only aramic, because Israel at that time was in captivity . As for the words which are in Hebrew , look for the book called : The Efiks and her neighbors: a historical perspective. You will get the answers to your questions there .

English can be said to be a German dialect which has taken a lot of loan words from French and etc and yet German and English can not share up to that number of words because that is almost all the words in the dictionary

Jashub:
The war monger . I hope he ages in pain

If not for his invasion of Iraq after the bombing of the WTC to show that no nation is sovereign to harbor or support terrorists, I believe the world today would have been destroyed by Islamic jihadists

Jashub:
There is no proof that the yorubas are anywhere close to the Israelites , and from research , the only tribe in Nigeria that may probably have claims to this are the Cross Riverians and some eastern tribes that have similar cultural practices.

In fact, it has been recorded that the Efiks in particular , have over 3000 words that have the exact same meaning in Hebrew

3000 words is basically the same language. Which of the Hebrew languages is Efik similar to?. We have ancient Egyptian, Phoenician, Aramaic which Jesus spoke, Yiddish etc.

Happy 77th birthday to President George W Bush who entered my life to become the chief manager by the direction of his late Dad in 2000 and after his first daughter Barbara Bush started corresponding with me in the same 2000 using different assumed identities starting with Tola Ekunsanmi then several others on Yahoo messenger, Pinky Smith on Facebook and etc before I got wise to the real her in 2012. President Bush has been most active as my Dad starting from 2000, fixed all my industrial trainings, read all my writings as an undergraduate posting articles on notice boards as a member of the RCF JTC under Toyin Lamikanra then, read my poems criticizing religion and dogma that I felt back then could only be for posterity. The poems were published by Professor Lamikanra of OAU in his yearly anthology and etc etc. For the past twenty three years many people starting with Barbara Bush has been totally involved in my life and one main person that has always been there is President George W Bush whose 77th birthday is today. He has been there along with his parents and wife and today he is the leader of the forces that have ensured that the people that want to behead me can only succeed in removing my cap!.
Many more years to him in excellent health and prosperity. Congratulations to him and the Bush family as a whole. May two hundred years of life for him be like one year. Amen.

Gerrard59:
While that is largely true, when you are in a place with few people as a black African, subconsciously you will associate with someone from Gambia instead of the Brits or Germans. I say black African because we are not used to living in a multi-racial societies unlike African Americans. It does change later tho depending on how old the person is and age s/he emigrated from Africa and how well the person has assimilated into the host's society.

Anywhere you are, so far you bow to the dominant culture, you will succeed without much hitch, it is never about skin colour.

adebayo987:
When you mention Hausas, it simply means that you're still thinking in one direction. The Hausas are the farmers, workers, slaves, etc. serving the Fulanis. The Fulanis make up 99.99% of the Northern political class (one of the reasons I supported Peter Obi was that Datti his deputy was an indigenous Hausa and not Fulani. It would have given the Hausas some leverage of gradually breaking out of the Fulani cobwebs which would have bettered Nigeria (because the Fulanis are the major problem Nigeria has) but of course, the cabals didn't let it happen). The Fulanis are the only tribe entitled to become Sultan. They're still the Northern politicians, religious priests, owners of farmlands, etc. while the Hausas are been suppressed and manipulated to remain as servants to them. The Hausas are the best tribes in Nigeria. When the Fulanis got a false notion that the federal government paid the ex-militants of the Niger Deltans during amnesty for carrying arms (without looking at what the militants were agitating for), they device a means to do the same which resulted to Fulani Boko haram and bandits. Now, how do they benefit from subsidy? The northern leaders who are mostly politicians are in some kind of conspiracy to be feeding all Fulanis existing in all parts of West Africa. Nigeria would pay for subsidy, while they will channel the subsidised petroleum to their brothers in neighbouring countries to sell at exorbitant prices in order to enrich and feed other Fulanis. They added the bandits in order to collect very huge sums from Nigeria. How did you think they were sponsoring bandits? It was via subsidy. Ones the subsidised petrol is sold, they channel the proceedings via a Fulani in either Niger Republic or Chad, to their militant Fulanis doing a dirty job for them. When Yar'Adua died and Goodluck became president, the Islamic Fulanis thought that Nigeria (their only POS machine) has been taking over by Christians. So, they started a war against Christians in the North via Boko haram. And during the election in 2015, they imported many Fulanis into Nigeria to elect Buhari on a common ground that Buhari would give them lands so that they will dominate Nigeria and in the future rule all of Nigeria. Buhari then brought the RUGA project that would give 1000 hectares of land to Fulani herders in all 36 states of Nigeria, which didn't work as planned and they (Fulani herders) started killing people as a protest but it failed. Then they turned to bandits and be attacking Hausas (not Fulanis) in the North in order to dominate the entire North since the plan for entire Nigeria didn't work.

So, the northern politicians who are flooding the entire northern leadership space channel all Nigeria's allocations from oil money for the Northern development to their Fulani brethren in neighbouring countries and forests.

As for fossil fuels belonging to everybody which includes foreigners. You're wrong. The fossil fuels in Niger Delta belongs to all Nigerians and the Niger Deltans are not sharing it with the German, Japanese, etc. Instead, it is managed by NNPC and any person sharing it with another country without the approval of NNPC is doing so illegally and if caught would be prosecuted. No country can come to Nigeria and legally share fossil fuels with Nigeria without paying for it, or buy it from Nigeria. So, you clearly don't understand the belongs to everybody notion. If it belonged to just anyone, it means nobody would buy or sell it, anyone can just go and get it and go away.

Mentioning Emefiele. The thing is, when you hear cabals you think they have a face. Hell, no! They steal money via government officials and they were all over Buhari's administration. They used the ₦100 million ticket fee excuse to steal from Nigeria because Tinubu still ended up using his own money for his campaigns while the party didn't contribute that much. To stop Tinubu's campaign expenses, they even used Emefiele to implement the Naira redesign policy and reduced bank transaction limits. But Buhari's sudden support for Tinubu made them think that Tinubu would be like Buhari their senior brother. They (Fulani cabals) take advantage of anything. Buhari even invested trillions of Nigeria's allocations in Niger Republic and ignored Nigeria (maybe they've planned to take over Niger Republic {who knows!} or both Nigeria and Niger Republic) The Fulanis are the ones who decide who becomes president in most West African countries. People even think that NDDC is meant to develop Niger Delta but the truth is, the name is just there but the main benefactors are cabals. These cabals cut across all the 6 Geo political zones, the Igbos, Yorubas, Ijaws, Fulanis, etc. But the majority are the Fulanis and other tribes (Ijaw, Igbo, Yoruba, etc.) present in the cabals are just people who they settle in order to get their way through.

As for the Hausas benefiting from farm proceeds. It's actually the Fulanis who owns the business while the Hausas serve them and at the end of the day, they would promise to take care of the Hausas' families by cutting peanuts for them. The question is, why is the North still very poor despite all the oil and farm money flooding their economy? It's because they're not fully in control, rather there's a big conspiracy plan drying up their money. Why did you think Tinubu chose a Fulani vice? The answer is, in order to win. If you go to any state, you'll see both Hausa and Fulani (usually termed Aboki) people doing business (shoe mending, herding, hawking, selling, etc.), those people have one Fulani Alhaji in charge of them that at any big occasion or end of year would charter a big truck that will transport them to the North for one celebration or the other. Whatever business they're doing, they pay 90% to the Alhaji in charge. Amongst them, you'd see some Fulanis who live in rented apartment while others (the Hausas) sleep on one part of the streets, the Fulanis among them are spies and observers as well as the Alhaji's money collector. Abeg, let me stop here before I spill every every. The thing is, if you understand what is going on, you may just japa.

In all, the belong to everyone notion isn't what you think it is, my brother.

You got it all wrong. The Fulani dynasty ruling Hausas have now become Hausas and that is why they call themselves Hausa Fulani. They can only succeed as Hausas. They represent Hausa people and it is the ones chosen by the Hausa that can ascend the throne. Therefore the king is also a slave and that is why the Kano government can remove any Emir of Kano at will, twice in a day if that is what they want. The Sultan or Emir is merely a custodian of culture and tradition. They reign but don't rule. In Yoruba land and other places, the leader of Hausa is always different from leader of Fulani and most town Fulani identify as Hausa. Then the Fulani are not the founder of Boko Haram. The Kanuri are. Hausa founded Maitatsene, Yoruba founded Nasfat etc etc. Maiduguri is not under Fulani jurisdiction and Sokoto that is directly under Fulani is known to be a peaceful place but however there are many Fulani even Yoruba Islamic extremists. Fulanis don't control 99 percent of the North as Kano is firmly under the control of Hausa politicians. Let me stop here. All your positions are wrong

Homo sapiens started in North Africa and that is where the majority of our ancestors came from apart from Neanderthal, Denisovans and the ghost human ancestors of subsaharan Africans. Majority of Nigerians had ancestors that lived in the Sahara desert when it was a rainforest. Ife of the Yoruba have been moving southwards for thousands of years. We know for sure it was in Wadai CAR etc etc. Like Germanic origin people changed the language of Britain to English, some Egyptians moved south and changed the language of the Yoruba to what they now speak which is over 50 percent Egyptians. They were not Jews since their leader was definitely an Egyptian aristocrat descended from Nimrod of Sumeria like Cleopatra was an Egyptian aristocrat descended from Greeks. Germanic people turned Celtic Britain into English speakers and because the British are thirty percent Germanic by DNA, it may be assumed that the Yoruba are up to thirty percent Egyptian as well. My first name Akin is shared with an Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten. The only connection of Yoruba with ancient Israel is that the Yoruba speak a language today which Moses the founder of Judaism would be able to understand to a reasonable extent because he was an Egyptian. The original Jews were Egyptians. David is Dawodu and it is a modern Yoruba name brought by Egyptians just like my name Akin. All human groups are related one way or the other but there is no other relation between Israel and Yoruba that can be traceable or logically proved than what I have shown. Thank you.

demmie1:
From the first points this op laid down I knew he's half intelligent about what he was trying to say.
First, British has no right to come and colonize us and lump all sorts of nations that are not compatible in culture and tradition together, that's a recipe for disaster.
Secondly, non of all the nations that you call tribes in Nigeria had any say in how Nigeria was created and run. Issue of self determination is not about resources.
Thirdly, there are many countries all over the world that are less than one million in population and almost all minorities in Nigeria have more population than that.

All of you who are against dividing Nigeria are just half intelligent people throwing unintelligent argument to defend evils done against black Africans

Colonisation of Nigeria started from the colonisation of the Yoruba. The Yoruba fought civil war for seventeen years and the British did not intervene despite that they are better armed and we're in Lagos since 1861. When the Yoruba traditional rulers and elite got tired of the war, they wrote to the British to intervene and the British came to the warfront in Igbajo to appeal to the combatants. They set fire to the forests and the soldiers hailed them Oyibo adanasungbo!. They successfully stopped the war and put the Yoruba states under protection with Ibadan as capital. The war ended in 1893 or so but The Egba a Yoruba nation remained independent until 1914 when North and South Nigeria were amalgamated because the British decided there was no reason to disturb them. It was the invitation by the Yoruba that led to the colonisation of the rest of Nigeria. All these things should be taught in schools.

When we are dividing people into black, white, yellow, brown and etc the Yoruba for instance must realize that we have known Europeans five hundred years before meeting the first Igbo, Ibibio and etc. Not to talk of Kenyas, Ethiopians, Cameroonians and etc. The Yoruba culture is more similar to the British, French or German than it is to the Igbo or even the Hausa. Yoruba is spoken like French for instance because of the observance of pronouns of rank and the only similar institution to the Ogboni on Earth is Freemasonry that originated in Britain. The Yoruba need their people together in West Africa like the Germans need their people together in Europe under one authority. We are therefore facing similar problems as human beings or as nations. In today's Yoruba land, the highest employers of labor at single locations are the Chinese, the Indians, Lebanese and etc are also there. A successful Yoruba tech company Proforce is incorporated in partnership with Germans. A large number of ethnic Yoruba people are phenotypically white Latinos and they may outnumber West African Yorubas in population. Those Chinese, Europeans, Indians and etc are more important to Yorubas than any non Nigerian African group and they are as important as the large Nigerian groups like Hausas and Igbos. Of what use then is an African Union without these people?. A regional ECOWAS may be understandable. Therefore the age of classifying people by skin color is over. What you are is the ethnicity you are raised as. Africa after all is not one skin color but several shades. Would you say a white man with inherited clothes from West African Yoruba land passed down from father to son for five hundred years is not a Yoruba man?. Today, there are black people with no other identity other than British and almost half of men like that in the US are actually paternally descended from Britain. Therefore it is no longer rational to divide people by color. You are a person, member of a family and member of an ethnicity, member of a nation and member of the world in that order. Nations and ethnicities should see themselves as brethren regardless of skin color while trying to make themselves and their habitats better and better. Igbos, Hausas etc should not see the Yoruba as a closer relative than Germans, French, Chinese, Italians, Japanese and etc because culturally and in other ways they are not. They are only adjacent to each other. All relationships between categories of individuals from person up should start at the same level. Several nations or ethnicities can be in one federation and it does not mean they are not distinct from each other. Nigeria afterall is not a nation, it is just a federation or a geographical expression with no common language apart from the colonial English. Yoruba are not anymore a Negroid people just like the British or American people are not any more a Caucasoid people and actually all ethnicities are like that to varying degrees. The rule is people that join you in your living space and take up your culture are your people and as a group, do not discriminate against others based on skin colour and etc.

Gerrard59:
The hilarious thing with the bold is that these people don't often visit Black Africa. Rather, they go to Turkey, Egypt and Morocco.

To be fair, though, if it is for touristic purposes, I would not visit a place where black people are not welcomed even after spending money or where the discrimination is done overtly. Making money is different, and I don't mind. When it comes to money, I am very rational about it.

I do agree with you about the rest of your posts. African Americans don't see themselves in the same way as Black Africans. None of the so-called BLM protests concerns ordinary Africans. Heck, even Africans don't like themselves, especially Nigerians. Sometimes, I think black people force themselves to be accepted. You go online reading how folks complain that white people stepped out of the swimming pool after the person (black man or woman) stepped in. In the first place, why would you spend money in such a place when Ghana and Senegal dey? Must you enter the same swimming pool as they do? Now, dem don step out, making it obvious they don't like your presence.

There is nothing like black people, what you are is your ethnicity. I choose Germans, Japanese, Chinese etc as a Yoruba man before any African. They are more useful and more supportive to the Yoruba than any African group. British are more similar to Yoruba than Hausa are similar to Yoruba. We have known French, Germans, British longer than we knew Igbos, Ibibios and etc. The colour of skin should not deceive anybody

adebayo987:
You're very funny. The phrase, "does not belong to anyone" is a political statement and don't fall for it. If you want to follow it literally, it means that not even land belongs to anyone. It's a term used by the political class to gain access to resources in order to boost national prosperity. The term even appear in constitutions but if you follow it literally, a land and its resources belongs to its early settlers otherwise there wouldn't be anything like "Kings🏙️ Queens, Kingdoms, Nations, Countries, Tribes, etc." anywhere on earth, we would just be humans existing as individuals. This is the reason why Russia is attacking Ukraine, they believe strongly that Ukraine (a sovereign state) belongs to them (Russians).

The oil in the Niger Delta belongs to the Niger Deltans. They're still the ones to suffer from the aftermath of its exploitation. They can suffer from earthquake, land, air and water pollutions, untimely deaths, and loss their lands and habitats (all their belongings and livelihoods) because of oil mining. So, don't fall for the political terms. If they don't do that in Nigeria, the North will suffer.

The North and Southeast do have their economy as you've mentioned but not enough to sustain them as an independent nation for a long time. The Northern economy is a sham, don't fall for the lies. Remove the sharing formula for oil revenues and see what happens to the North in just one week. As for the southeast, they have strong spirit of endurance and adaptation, they'll survive and can scale through. But the northern fellow will come begging. Buhari regime really opened the yash of the North that they're nothing without Niger Delta's oil revenue as their farm products were not enough to sustain Nigeria otherwise, it would have been sold very cheaply despite inflation because it would have been in abundance but that's not what we saw. Who did you think subsidy was benefitting? The short answer is "the North". Who did you think fixed exchange rate of Naira-Dollar was benefitting? Still the North. Most Buhari's policies including closing of borders, embargo on crypto currency, etc. were targeted at enriching the Northern farmers (marketers) especially the Fulanis. You clearly don't know what's going on. I'm in the system and I'm telling you the truth.

The number of Hausas depending on government is less than five hundred thousand. They depend on maize, groundnut, tomatoes, pepper, onions, trading, manufacturing, leather, dye, industries and hundreds of other economic activities. They are not depending on oil money and maybe fifty million people in the North west are like that. Fossil fuel twenty miles offshore does not belong to only the people on the coast, that is not anybody's farmland and if Ijaw, Yoruba, Calabar can share it with Hausa and etc, then they can as well share it with Indians Chinese Japanese Germans etc. It belongs to everybody. Then how is subsidy, dual exchange rate benefitting Hausas?. Is Emefiele an Hausa man?. I mean it was reported he paid 100 million naira to buy nomination form!. All kinds of people are benefitting from the scam and not only Hausas, the most hard-working people in this country are Hausas

adebayo987:
The Niger Deltans will benefit very well if at all they become a nation. The South West would be second to the South South, while the entire north will suffer, suffocate and die very rapidly. There's something about wealth, when you have enough, it will be impossible for your nation to suffer no matter how much is stolen. The issue of NDDC is a scam because the organisation says Niger Delta Development but the people that end up looting the funds are Senators (includes Northern, Western, Eastern and even foreign thieves) and Fulani cabals, the Niger Deltans in NDDC are not in control, it's like Buhari as president but cabals in control. The northern Fulani cabals who channel Nigeria's money to their Fulani brethren in the forest and other parts of West Africa cannot sit dumb and allow Niger Delta to benefit from their wealth. Also, the entire country (Nigeria) depends solely on Niger Delta's wealth, so imagine when it's only them on their resources, it will be like Rivers State's former governor Wike who built flyovers and heavy projects in space of months and still looted billions without trace. Niger Delta as a nation would develop in space of months if they become a nation, we'll be going there like Dubai of West Africa. The cabals span across the 6 Geo political zones of the nation. It will be difficult for Niger Deltans seeing money to channel it to development because they're seeing peanuts and it's not enough that will be left after all the looters (cabals) have taken their shares.

So, a divided Nigeria will send some sects (the majority) to the grave while others (especially the Southwest and South-souths and a fragment of the Southeast) will be smiling.

Hausas have their own economy and don't need anybody's money to survive likewise the SE. The economy is huge. An economy of 200 million people is huge and they can easily support a government comprising of a few million civil and public servants. Then the oil on the seas and underground does not belong to anybody. The oceans cover over seventy percent of Earth and the contents including fossil fuel, fish etc is the common wealth of all in the world. When nations like Russia give up their fossil fuel to be shared, I will like to hear the opinion of Nigerians on the so called oil. It does not belong to you.

If Nigeria will ever work then it will be by building on what Britain left behind and forming an EU like union with common currency and common market and any group that wants a state given a state, state and LG police as well as regional military. Then states should be able to break or merge as they wish, states use their local languages to preserve them and representation at federal level be according to financial contribution from part of internally generated revenue meaning the percentage you contribute to federal budget will be your percentage of seats in the federal parliament. It can work like that.

This issue is the biggest issue militating against the actualization of Biafra. I have often wondered how it can even be possible and why the owners of those properties can not reclaim them in court because even in the North and west, Igbos got back their properties. The issue must be resolved. Any land appropriately sold should be returned to the buyer or the buyer paid back the value of his estate. I think some of the lands in question were not bought from natives because if they were, then the community will not allow the property to be declared abandoned. Any Igbo man that bought property should take the person they bought from to court but if it was the Eastern state government that allocated it, then they should find other ways to amicably settle the matter. In Ilesa, if Ibadan people allocate land to themselves illegally, then Ijesas will seize those lands back at the first opportunity. I guess that is the kind of thing that happened but it should be settled amicably and I believe SE Igbos own post war properties in those lands that nobody is contesting with them but the ones in contention should be settled amicably so that the whole country can close that chapter.

IbeOkehie:
The bolded is EXACTLY the point, you've completely rubbished your own thesis with the truth. These places were at DIFFERENT levels of development, as in they were UNEQUAL.

And within each country or tribe or village, the individuals therein were also UNEQUAL, even if only physically as in different height and weight and intelligence.

There's NEVER been a time where any two individuals or nations or races or tribes were equal....and it will NEVER happen. Inequality is the basis for progress.

Have a good day.

Pre industrial Yoruba land or Hausa land was not behind anywhere in level of economic development. Igbo land would be a bit behind. Shortly after Rome declined, Britain and most of Europe relapsed into feudalism and they also had to be fighting off Viking raids but when they settled within a few centuries, they had upper classes that were knowledgeable in different fields. At that point, the globe was even, nations were equal and there was nobody buying second passports of another nation but nations were still fighting over land. Economic prosperity was even and only exotic things were traded. In Yoruba land, we made all our clothes, metals, potteries, beads, jeweleries, shoes, weapons, staple food and etc and that was true for all parts of the world. You only buy the very few things you can't produce and the disparity in standard of living within a nation was negligible, everybody had jobs and income but of course everybody can not be high net worth individuals. Societies that did not have much material prosperity relative to the rest of the world were those closed to the rest of the world like maybe the Nri Igbo but were they poor people?. Definitely not!. They were content with what they had and were not bothered about what other people think about them. They produced more or less everything they consumed and their society was more socially equal. Isolated tribes today are not poor even if they don't have much material prosperity but they are happy and their society is more socially equal and whatever they have is more evenly shared. Development is not more than good infrastructure, industrialization, good organisation with government depending on taxes and if you have no technology, you can still have all that, foreign companies with tech know how will invest in your country and your people will contribute. Many countries without any technology are more developed than those with know how. They just join hands together and capitalize on whatever they have while seeking help from others in the sectors in which they are lacking and any country can do that. Once you do that, then you are equal with other nations. You don't need to be technologically advanced to drive out poverty from your country, you don't even need that to be an immigrant worker destination. Take Ghana for example, how is any country better than Ghana apart from the fact that there is a high dependency ratio in the country due to a ballooning population from births?.

gforce5:
You are right. The issue is that majority of founders in this country like to have 100% control of their businesses. They don't even give their own children autonomy to run the business as they see fit or give their own input on how the business should be run. Only Dangote, Elumelu and a few others are enlightened enough to allow shareholders to purchase shares in their companies.

Elumelu does not have any huge business he is controlling with majority stake while using bank loans and not having any expert knowledge about the business but that is what Dangote, BUA do but they are still better than Globacom. What is the rationale in controlling 90 percent of a public company even when you collect hundreds of billions of naira dividends only to pay bank debts?. It is just an ego thing as it can not be for the progress of the business since no one lives for ever. See his refinery, he did not add anything more than the idea but he wants to own it one hundred percent and use the oil demand to pay bank loans. If you start or found anything, the life of that thing must be separate from your own because it will or is expected to outlive you

davidnazee:
If you are consulting oracle and using native doctor stones to solve your problems I sorry for you. Your problems are spiritual.. village people dey after you..

It is why I said you are uncouth and without a proper upbringing.

davidnazee:
How many of your problems have you solved using Ifa?
You have to live by example not just talk..

Which problem did I tell you I have which Ifa is not able to solve?. I routinely use Ifa to solve any problem I wish to solve. Do you know me from anywhere or why did you ask that I live by example?. You are very uncouth.

Kenn55:
Your last sentence is wrong in my opinion. There is no genuinely patriotic Nigerian. If there are, they aren't more than 1%.
The masses appear patriotic because they have no option not because they are genuinely patriotic. Once they have they same opportunity they elites have, their behavior will change instantly.
As a people, our mentality and character is fatally flawed. I have studied a lot of other countries to arrive at this conclusion. That is why it will be almost impossible to get a better country than we already have, unfortunately. I wish I could be wrong on this.

Only one patriot can be enough and that is what is meant when they say leadership is crucial.

The way to sustain anything is to let it have a life of it's own separate from the founder by having a lot of stakeholders and investors without being tied to any one person

RedboneSmith:
Ifa is spreading to the Americas as a religion. The papers written on Ifa are religious papers. The same way theologians write paper about theology and publish them in theology journals. They are not scientific papers in the way a physics paper is.

Most papers on Ifa focus on its literary value as poetry or on its binary method. The Bible contains rich literary passages and chapters of great philosophical value, but no one is making the argument that the Bible or Christianity is a science. Except for nutters.

Point me to one peer-reviewed paper that explains how ifa can be used to predict anything. The paper must have a methodology, and I should be able to get palm nuts or cowries, follow the methodology and get statistically significant results.

An oracle anywhere is used to predict things. Tarot cards, Ouija boards and etc are used to predict things. An octopus was used to predict things to a high degree of accuracy during a football tournament. I am surprised you don't know that oracles are used to mine information much like google. If you are proficient in using any oracle, it is not different from having a degree in any science discipline. IFA is poetry but those poetries are grouped under 256 signs and you can use them to solve basically any problem based on your level of proficiency. A rose by any other name will smell as sweet, therefore those calling Ifa a religion are wrong. It is an academic theology, a science based theology. The religions are those that are rigid, ridiculous and antagonistic to reason, debate, innovation and change. You can not group Ifa, Hinduism, Buddhism, Maiguzuwa, Shintoism, Dibia and etc under the same heading as Christianity and Islam. Christianity and Islam are the only religions for being resistant to innovation, debate and change. If Ifa is a religion then science also is religion.

RedboneSmith:
Leave am. 😂

Oga Lawani, until the people practising all these arts begin to publish their methodologies and results in papers and journals for people to follow their processes. And until people around the world have read their methodologies and been able to independently replicate the results many times over and proven that statistically they work, these things remain outside the domain of science, no matter how you choose to see them.

That's what separates science from magic. If a scientist in Spain does ABC in the lab and gets XYZ result. He should be able to publish his methodology and findings. And other scientists in Japan, Australia, Sweden, Argentina, Mexico, South Africa...all around the world...should be able to follow the methodology and arrive at the same results. That's how science works.

Horoscope readings that are wrong more than half the time is what you're calling a science. Lmao.

But that is what they have been doing with Ifa in Brazil, Cuba and recently the USA, it is the national theology of Cuba, in Brazil, they are most proficient, search online and you see Harvard and other universities having Ifa journals, it only remains to be issuing formal degrees in conventional universities and that will start happening very soon as it becomes a sort of chartered profession

saifryzwi:
You are right to point out that the overvalued naira is a major reason why Nigeria does not process its raw materials. When the naira is overvalued, it makes imported goods cheaper than locally produced goods. This makes it more profitable for businesses to import processed goods than to process raw materials locally.

The cashew nut example you gave is a perfect illustration of this problem. Cashew nuts are a major export crop for Nigeria, but most of the processing is done in other countries. This is because the naira is overvalued, making it cheaper to import processed cashew nuts than to process them locally.

Currency control can also be destructive. When the government controls the exchange rate of the currency, it can make it difficult for businesses to import the goods and services they need to operate. This can also make it difficult for businesses to export their products, as they may not be able to get a fair price for their goods in foreign markets.

The government of Nigeria has taken some steps to address the problem of overvalued naira. In 2016, the government floated the naira, which means that the exchange rate is now determined by market forces. This has made the naira more competitive, but it has also led to higher inflation.

The government is also trying to promote the processing of raw materials in Nigeria. In 2019, the government launched the National Industrial Revolution Plan (NIRP), which includes a number of initiatives aimed at promoting industrialization. The NIRP includes a focus on processing raw materials, as well as other measures such as improving infrastructure and providing tax incentives for businesses.

It will take time for these measures to have an impact, but they are a step in the right direction. If the government can successfully address the problem of overvalued naira and promote the processing of raw materials, it will help to create jobs and boost economic growth in Nigeria.

Here is a link to allexamnotes.com: https://www.allexamnotes.com/tag/business/ for more information on this topic.

Currently the naira is under valued. However the main power a government has over the currency is to print more, the other power of withdrawing it from circulation is rarely used for obvious reasons. The challenge against economic development in Nigeria is not currency manipulation, it is infrastructure. To produce you need machines, power, transport and labour, if all that is in place, then foreigners will struggle with Nigerians to produce in Nigeria as it used to be. Exchange rate, floatation of currency has little to do with economic prosperity but the idea of selling dollars indoor at 450 and outdoor at 750 is profoundly barbaric.

RedboneSmith:
Lol. Like I said, no actual scientist worth his salt will call these things science. None. These things are no different from the ancient Chinese using hot metals to make cracks on tortoise shells and trying to read the will of the ancestors from the burn cracks.

Yes they can do that. Anyone can do that if they have a blue print for receiving such messages and pray first to the ancestors for guidance and such an approach is academic. Religion however, most of them were founded by people hearing voices in their head.

RedboneSmith:
Oh. There's nothing scienitfic about this sort of thing, sir. It's the same age-old clairvoyance, divination and fortune telling that is found in every culture since the beginning of human history. Only 'liberal arts' people who use the word 'science' very loosely will call this science. "Science" is a very different thing.

If whatever you are doing does not have a methodology which is clearly explainable and which can be replicated with the same results by other people, you're not doing science.

Anything done with methodology that can be taught other people is using the scientific method. Astrology, numerology, ouija board reading, horoscope reading, Ifa and etc. All these things have to be learnt like a university degree before you become proficient and all is magic. They are different from people who claim to hear voices in their head but can not show people how. If you teach people skill, that is not a religion, it is an academic theology

RedboneSmith:
What exactly does "Scientific theology" mean? Isn't that term even paradoxical?

For example, if you cast Ifa to ask what is this person thinking?, what is best for me to do?. What will happen to the world in 2030?, what is the prospect of this marriage? etc etc, you don't have to read it yourself, someone else who is proficient in Ifa can come and read it, other people can also offer perspectives etc etc. That is scientific theism. Totally different from Christianity and Islam.

IbeOkehie:
There will NEVER be a time when all countries, races, tribes or whatever grouping are evenly developed, neither will all humans EVER be equal. It's IMPOSSIBLE, there's no time in history when equality existed. That being the case, the premise is flawed.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Well you are wrong because there was a time when everywhere was stable and the only wars were over ownership of land. During the middle ages, Europe was stable even if poor and if they had to be driving off Vikings but they had nowhere to run to and in their space they were stable, 500 years ago, West Africa was stable and the only issue was states trying to suppress each other, otherwise they were all prosperous producing things in West Africa that was consumed in Europe and vice versa. China was stable, India was stable, Aztec, Maya all were stable even if at different levels of material prosperity and economic development. They all had ranking men, merchants, craftsmen, farmers, musicians, artists and etc. The only issue was security and sovereignty over your land. Now that the issue of sovereignty is solved, explain to me why there can not be even development?.

LionInZion:
Well, people pursue second passport not necessarily because their country isn't developed. China is among the most developed countries, yet its many citizens line up are after US citizenship. People from the UK, US, EU are still obtaining other countries passports for different reasons. You see, that you don't believe in something doesn't make it useless. Even polygamy is some people's way of life and that some people may vilify the practice doesn't make it useless, at least to them. 2nd passport has opened doors of opportunities to several people and can never be useless to those who know how to leverage it.

Yes I agree with you that others don't have to toe that line but if citizenship were really what it should be, I don't think you would need two, you won't need more than one and that would be the case if the globe were evenly developed but everybody can not have the same opinion. India shares my opinion. I believe there might be people who have more than two.

I would say the first true post industrial revolution free market communist state on Earth was the defunct Western state of Nigeria. Government was the number one investor in profit seeking enterprise in the economy with the WNDC which later was changed to Oodua group but the government did not fully control any major sector or any major company. The government was just an investor. The government had minority stakes or sundry holdings in more or less all blue chip companies back then in Nigeria and there was no unemployment to speak of, definitely no graduate unemployment at least. Universal health care, universal basic education, generous scholarships for indigent scholars to study in local universities as well as in the USA, Britain, USSR and etc. My Dad studied in the UK, his younger brother in the USA and one of his cousins in the USSR. The ideal system definitely can be best described as free market communism and that is what is being practiced currently in Norway.

What are the most important technological developments in the world leaving out weapons?. The Internal combustion engine, satellite communications, binary computing, vaccines, renewable energy (solar, hydro and wind), the internet, electric vehicles, smart phones, social media etc. Apart from satellite communications derived from Russia's groundbreaking ICBM, the rest came from Britain or the USA. Britain started in stages as fusions of German, Celtic, French, Scandinavia as the main components but Britain is also a Celtic nation that is distinct with its own identity and is not the same as any of the nations that contributed it's founders. It is a Celtic nation with a Germanic derived language as lingua franca. From Britain came the USA. The industrial revolution started there but now the US is leading. The US now leads disproportionately in innovation and where other nations have surpassed the USA is development and organisation. The only way to explain it is that it is part of God's plan because the British and Americans definitely are not smarter than other people because if they were, why didn't it show in their achievements in say AD 1000 or even the 15th century. The Magna Carta is the traceable starting point but it can not fully explain why others are yet to catch up in innovation. The explanation is in God's magic. The best innovations of other Europeans happened in the USA, the only Nigerian to receive the US equivalent of Nobel prize for research occurred in the USA and etc etc.