₦airaland Forum

MarieSucre:
" Women in America receive 79% of pay men receive. And that's the average. In state like Louisiana, it is 61% of what men receive. "

I have answered this before. Even your graphs prove what I say. If you're going to act retarded about the semantics of "pay" and "earnings", by all means indulge yourself.

" b]Marie, Did women in Nigeria voted before women in Switzerland and Greece?"

Women in Southern Nigeria. Except you're saying there are no women in Northern Nigeria and it's just a gay festival year round from Kaduna to Sokoto.
Since then Switzerland and Greece has passed gender and marriage equality. Revamped divorce laws so women are no longer discriminated. Require by that at least a substantial percentage of every board of trustee in a company be women. Abolish the last name law(for women) in families. Criminalize marital rape(whether the woman reports it or not.

What has Nigerian done since then?
BRAGGED ABOUT HOW ONE SMALL PORTION OF IT GRANTED SUFFRAGE(NOT EVEN UNIVERSAL ONE AT THAT) TO WOMEN BEFORE 3 COUNTRIES THAT AS AT 2016 ARE WELL AHEAD IT N HUMAN RIGHTS.

Clap for yourself my friend!

MarieSucre:
You have not answered my point. Are men's lives more expendable than women's lives? Look up the meaning in a dictionary if you don't. And known that I will hold you to your answer anywhere on nairaland.

patches689:
Blah blah

Your lies got exposed now you try to pivot and change the argument.

Come back and talk to us in 20 years

mimzy:
cc: le.zz

patches689:
So you are saying.

The ammount of money we can spend (in real terms) is irrelevant

But the ammount of money in our economy (in hypothetical terms) is relevant?

My knowledge of international politics is this:

South Africa = G20, BRICS
Nigeria = ..... *Crickets chirping*....

You are a buffoon if you think that your underdeveloped nation has suddenly become relevant because you can wave around a hypothetical number.

patches689:
Cherry picking data proves nothing henry

Fact is that your """huge""" GDP doesnt count for sh1t - especially considering our government budget is 4X yours.

His argument stands as valid.

patches689:
So i post actual world bank data

And you respond with newspaper clippings?

According to world bank data: 1 out of 2 Nigerians live in poverty and 1 out of 10 South Africans live in poverty.

World bank confirms. Argument over.

Another hukom from Patrick.

Statistics say more than 1 in every 4 south African is jobless!!! That's the facts form World bank and your own country.

That's more than 25% of south Africans without jobs.

Your comments here can't change the facts on ground in your country.

South Africa is Zimbabwe bound. You know it's certain.

We're watching. Just 20 years it took south African economy, security, politics, health, to melt away like pastries before an oven.

In the next 20years, another Detroit.

The hype and false publicity has been buried with Mandela.

Everyone sees you for what you are; Living in a past that never truly was.

patches689:
And yet the data tells a different story. And our membership of G20 and BRICS tells a completely different story.

Remember Nigeria has to grow its GDP by 80% to be on the same per ratia as us.

Tell me - are you part of the 50% of migerians that lives in poverty?

With the rate of decline and free falling, south Africa will soon become a political spittoon in the committee of nations.

BRICs, G20? How has that shielded you from being so irrelevant now?

How has that increased your geopolitical tentacles and influence?

Dead man citing redundant certificate as evidence of life

Keep your G20, will always bleep you with our GDP, that's what counts and matters in geopolitics, dunce!!

Tell me, are you amongst those hungry looters who rob and plunder foreigners in cold blood and steal their belongings?

patches689:
A professional analyst for the FW De Klerk foundation is insane because he said something that hurts your feelings?

This is why your country will never ammount to anything, you are blinded by nationalism, as a people you have very low standards.

patches689:
World bank data:

53% of Nigerians live in poverty
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/NGA

16% of South Africans live in poverty
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/ZAF

Do you actually beleive your own lies?

Patrick, will you stop this nonsense!!!

You live in deceit and thrive in controversy!!! That's your only means of escape from your miserable geopolitical realities.

Only 33% of Nigerians are poor:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/only-a-third-of-nigerians-are-poor-says-world-bank/184323/

Take south African's own data in JPEG below:

I'm sitting here watching Patrick sweating feverishly hard to refute the submissions of someone whom he says no one takes seriously.

Sweat on, dummy!!!

patches689:
Tears? I see only facts.

And the facts tell us that everything you have said is untrue and frankly ridiculous.

You are truly a sad human being - no one here takes you seriously after you tried to tell us South AfRica is not a member of BRICS

The only tears here are yours... tell me are you one of the over 60% of nigerians who live in poverty??

Patrick, my delusionary friend. You never cease repeating these redundantly stale lines of yours!
Seems I always manage to seat on your nerves each time I leave a comment

Since World bank has given us irrefutable statistics that only 33% of Nigerians are poor, data from your own country says 45% South Africans live below the poverty line.

As of yesterday, the BBC was trending south Africans crowding the streets with billboards begging for jobs like the physically handicapped

You keep consoling yourself and attempting to rewrite your history in the pages of Nairaland but it won't fly.

I'm sorry you have to be born to witness the Darkest moments of South Africa's history. Not even in apartheid were things this bad.

Once again live with your frustrations and keep it within your borders.

Welcome to the slide to irrelevance

Political minion.

OohLalah:
Perfect description of yourself. Actually Nigerians at large!
Now phuck-off!

Rape-conformist!!!

Aren't you that naija pïmp's courier?

OohLalah:
hit a nerve! Story time!

OohLalah:
I tell ya! Frankly we dont give a dammmn but if they are nursing funky ideas of getting visa free agreements with us? They are on a long thing as they say.

We are already up to our neck with their influx without a free visa, imagine with one? Never!

OohLalah:
Lol! Someone's feeling funky! Nigerians and their feelings of self importance.

Ugosample:
You have made some points,, but Africa MUST not go the China way. Africa should go the AFRICAN way.
The problems we always have is that we use western economic models which does not help us much.
Developing home grown models is the only way out.

And besides, your talk of World Bank/IMF is not entirely correct too.
IMF imposes the same conditions worldwide.
You cannot borrow money from IMF to pay subsidy or something like that. You have to use the money for productive stuff, and that is why Greece is in hot soup today. Greece is a European country, but go and see the conditions and austerity they have to swallow.
If not that Greece used Euro, they would have been told to devalue as well.
So don't make it look like it's only Africa that they target.
Also look at south Korea too

Makamuanwuo:
33. South Africans will kick down a statue of a dead white man but won’t even attempt to slap a live one. Yet they can stone to death a black man simply because he’s a foreigner.

Thiza:
FACTS AND OPINIONS

AFRICA DAY - WHO REALLY HAS THE BIGGEST ECONOMY?

Much has recently been made of reports that Egypt has overtaken South Africa as Africa’s second largest economy and that we have now slipped to third place - with Nigeria in first place. All this has added to South Africa’s sense of national decline - after having prided ourselves for so long as being in an unassailable position as the continent’s largest economy. Commentators must now console South Africans with the reassurance that we are still the most “highly industrialised” economy in Africa.

The relative size of economies is generally measured by assessing their Gross Domestic Products on a PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) basis - which irons out kinks caused by the differences between official exchange rates and the actual purchasing power of the currencies involved.

In terms of PPP GDP China in 2015 already had the largest economy in the world - US$ 19,392 billion, (17% of global PPP GDP) compared with the EU at US$ 19,205 billion and the United States at US$ 17,947 billion. India was next with US$ 7,965 billion.

The largest economy in Africa was Nigeria at 22nd position in the world with a PPP GDP of US$ 1 092 billion. Egypt, at 23rd place, had a slightly smaller PPP GDP of US$ of 1 048 billion. South Africa limped in at third place in Africa and 30th place in the world with a PPP GDP of US$ 724 billion.

But it was not always thus. Nigeria suddenly assumed the leading position in 2014 after recalculating the basis on which its GDP was assessed, increasing it overnight by 89%.

The new figures were apparently verified by the IMF and the World Bank. However, if one considers other core factors relating to the Nigerian and South African economies, some of the statistics just don’t seem to add up. So, for example, the Nigerian Federal budget in 2014 was US$ 30,4 billion compared with South Africa’s budget the same year of US$ 115 billion.

Consider also the fact that South Africa with its 54 million people consumes more than 10 times as much electricity as Nigeria with its 177 million people. South Africa’s consumption of 234 million MW hours/year was the 15th highest in the world. We have over 2 000 shopping malls (the 6th highest number in the world) compared with 12 - 15 in the whole of Nigeria. Our exports and imports in 2013 amounted to US$ 198 billion compared with Nigeria’s total trade of US$ 135 billion. 90% of Nigeria’s exports were oil and oil products - which have fallen by more than 40% in the past two years.

In 2015 South Africa produced 615 000 motor vehicles and we had 165 cars per 1000 people. Nigeria had 31 cars per 1000 people. Nor is it a question of Nigeria having a prosperous rural farming sector. 62% of the population live below the international poverty datum line of US$ 1,25 per day - compared with 9.4% of South Africa’s population.

Also, in terms of financial services South Africa appears to be far in the lead. The value of shares on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange is US$ 790 billion, compared with the US$ 47 billion on the Lagos Exchange. South Africa’s banks and financial services are also rated amongst the best in the world by the World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report.

Egypt probably has a better claim to being the continent’s largest economy. Its budget is US$ 85 billion and its foreign trade was US$ 97 billion. It has 28 Cars per 1000 people. However, only 1.2% of its population live below the US$ 1,25 poverty line - which means that there is a much higher general level of prosperity among its people than there is in South Africa.

What it comes down to is the need to be skeptical about statistics. As one commentator observed, they are like bikinis - more important for what they conceal than what they reveal. Nevertheless, whatever South Africa’s real economic ranking in Africa may be, we are slipping with each year that passes. During the past three years the Sub-Saharan economy has grown by an average of 4.5% compared with South Africa’s growth of only 1.3% in 2015 - and projected growth of 0.4% this year.

Dave Steward is Executive Director of the FW de Klerk Foundation.

http://politicsweb.co.za/opinion/does-nigeria-really-have-the-largest-economy-in-af

postmann:
[b]
And I wonder what stock of a woman you are:
A low-cut, hypoactive-testosterone, ball grabbing, graceless hermaphrodite. A love-less and lonely half-wit.
A mental degenerate reeking with a false sense of pride. A mis-educated, contagious ignoramus.

What better ways could you have described your life these past few days? What do I have to argue with a fellow who didn't know Dubai is a city and not a country? Or that westernisation is different from science and technology?

You greedy she-monster that has sold out her soul to the glossy screens of Hollywood, what do we have in common?

You're an intellectual nuisance. A disgrace to womanhood. A spiritually compromised devil's lab project. A neurodegenerate specimen of the whiteman's mental slave project.

Why would I want to have an enlightened convo with you? The gathering of enlightened sensibilities reject your kind. You have no place amongst her fold. You're a floating jetsam with no place to call home. A worthless traitor banished by her father's people and a laughing stock of the whiteman who saw through your fakery and lack of distinction --a plastic toy of the real deal. That's the sum total of your miserable life.

#ComeBackHome #DearVagabondo[/b]

CSTR6:
The west is not your problem. Look at how the west developed japan and korea. Is it a crime if Nigeria becomes another korea?
Your leaders hide their uselessness under the toga of anti western rhetorics and people like you gobble it up.
I can assure you that in a million years, you would not be able to confront or challenge the west, so you better learn how to elect leaders that are smart enough to leverage western developmental technologies and policies for african development.
Japan and korea for example has handed over their national defences to the control of the united states in return for large american investments. The US gets allies and a sure foothold in south-east asia against communist china, while the japanese and koreans gets western aided economic development and western level prosperity in return, and i am sure their well-fed, prosperous citizens have not regretted it ever since.
Hating the west is madness. The most prosperous nations in the world are either western nations or proped up by the west.

iAmCharis:
Haven cooked with firewood, gas and kerosene stove, I can authoritatively say that food cooked with firewood tastes way better!! There's just something about it.