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elated177:
It is the glamorization of sex by the media that has given people such mindset. The minds of people have been conditioned - and are being conditioned - to see sex the way that you described, Reed? It is the same mindset, which is orchestrated by the media, that is responsible for sexual promiscuity. The same mindset is the reason for the outrage whenever the issues of virginity and sexual purity are raised. There are so many things to do with the energy, Reed.

When one deeply considers it, one will realize that sex without procreation is even meaningless --- a waste of energy.


Reed, before the invention of condom, how did our ancestors live? Any ideas?

LMAO! So before the invention of media people did not feel like having sex? Was it media that made Judah sleep with his daughter in law or is it media that made Lot sleep with his daughters? Bwahahahahaha! Guy we are talking of natural inclinations you are talking of media.

Kai guy why exposing your ignorance like this na. There are several methods to prevent pregnancy that don't involve condom or even modern inventions, ever heard of the withdrawal method? What about female ovulation cycle monitoring? You have the whole Internet at your disposal don't remain so ignorant.

elated177:
Not about the missing "seal" or whatever. You raised other issues in your last paragraph. I think such were dealt with on that thread.

Then tell me about the "missing seal", is your god incompetent? Do you know that 1 in 1000 girls need to have their hymen surgically opened because it creates a problem for them when their period starts? Is your god wicked or incompetent or both?

WTF didn't she disable the card? SMH.

jesusjnr2020:
By the way, don't mind those trying to dissociate her faith from her feats. They are not wise.

God bless.

It's you who isn't wise. I mean people of all types have done incredible things yet you want to believe only your religion confers special powers to a person, isn't that foolishness. The Andoid or iPhone or Windows OS you are using to post was not made by Christians yet somehow you need to believe only Christians have any kind of impact on the world.

doggedfighter:
It's even very RISKY staying close to anyone who believes that ritual works.

...

Seriously. Such a person can be tempted to do it.

AlphaStyles:
Please can any of the moderators or admin help and change my faith? Because I am a Christian and my signature is showing the Muslim quote please I want it to be removed

It will go after a while.

Speaklove:
You lied .
The movie is full of demonic inspiration in the name of entertainment.
One could learn some elementary principles of witchcraft by merely watching that movie.

I was a fan of the movie but got to a stage where it became clearer to me that sorcery,witchcraft ,and different sort of demonic activities actually took place in that movie .
Even though you might want to argue that it was a mere acting ,and casting but still spiritual impartations ,inspirations,and activations do take or could take place if the soul of those who were acting it has it in mind to do so .

Our environment is constantly imparted with various energy that comes out of pictures sounds and vibrations and in turn influences the souls of individuals to gear towards a certain direction which is intended by the inspire of such energies.

You might not be spiritual but your non spirituality isn't an excuse of such realities .

Education blinded the hearts of many though it was said to open their eyes.

It did opened it torwards carnality

So why didn't you lot pray and stop the movie from being made since magic exists. LoLz.

DSC7:
The producer dey use dem renew his otumokpo ...

Yeah because the only way old people die is when people use them for rituals.

Hismasterpiece:
Mr Reed i rest my case.

Actually you rest my case. LoL

spartan117:
Lol was that the point of my post?
Now that you mention maybe I'll write a book about distinguishing what God's deeds from that of man. Stay tuned.

Did I say it was the point of your post? I asked a question you said the answer was there when it clearly was not and now you say it wasn't the point of your post. You shouldn't attempt writing a book just yet, you still have to learn how English works a bit more.

elated177:
Sex is not food. Sex is for procreation.

Wrong. Sex satisfies a natural appetite. If it was for only procreation you would only have a sexual urge when you want to procreate. Instead what we have is a continuous desire for sex that generally abates with age and only because functional rigour abates not because the desire has disappeared.

elated177:
Did you go through the thread?



https://www.nairaland.com/6929795/sexual-purity#109186760

elated177:
Go through the thread, Reed.

Where in the thread did you deal with missing hymen or hymen that isn't present by other means than sex.

1Sharon:
Yes I know that. She didn't use Christian beliefs to stop the killing of twins, she used her sense.

Your conscience should tell you killing people is wrong, you don't need Christianity.


Then again if you want to take credit for the good Christians have done, you must take credit for the bad they've done.

Abi o! If it was about Christianity then why is Nigeria the way it is, why isn't it a world superpower like the Great Britain Slessor came from?

walkbrazil4k:
Mary Mitchell Slessor (2 December 1848 – 13 January 1915) was a Scottish Presbyterian missionary to Nigeria. Once in Nigeria, Slessor learned Efik, one of the numerous local languages, then began teaching. Because of her understanding of the native language and her bold personality


Slessor gained the trust and acceptance of the locals and was able to spread Christianity while promoting women's rights and protecting native children. She is most famous for having stopped the common practice of infanticide of twins in Okoyong, an area of Cross River State, Nigeria.

I choose to look at it as good sense stopped the killing of twins. There were many Christians that came to Africa before Mary Slessor why didn't they stop the killing if it was the religion that had something to do with it?

This is one of the problems of religion, it attempts to contract good sense to external otherworldly forces and inadvertently robs people of their motivation towards reasoning because it makes them satisfied with crystallised thoughts. It's the same cause why Africa is backwards or was even backwards when these Europeans came. We are too quick to yield up the reasoning process to reach for soothing platitudes.

Steep:
Op is confused, thought atheism is not religion
Or a belief.
A martyr is someone who is killed for their belief, so when has atheism become a belief?

That is not the only definition of martyr.

: a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle
a martyr to the cause of freedom
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/martyr

Basically anyone who dies for the sake of any cause is a martyr religious cause or not. Ken Saro Wiwa was a martyr for the Niger Delta cause.

Atheism is copying religion a concept it claims to oppose, confusing confusion?

There is no copying rather you are attempting to appropriate general terms to make them exclusively religious. Not every regular gathering of people constitutes a religious service for instance.

How a self claim intelligent person could believe the well structured universe, life itself is a product of nothingness or cosmic accident is the highest form of stupidity that can ever exist.

When will you become reasonable and stop saying something you've have been corrected on several times. Atheists don't say life is a product of nothingness or a cosmic accident.

The proof of God is the everything you see around you.
Life can only come from life, life can never come from non living thing.

Then this also proof that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Sango, Osun, etc. are real.

ifyken:
This virginity stuff is overrated like I wouldn't sleep with you if you were a virgin. Am I a vampire that I want to see blood? Most virgins are inexperienced in sexual activities which means you will not even enjoy well.

There are advantages to being a virgin but it is absurd to claim that a god decided to place a seal on the woman's pùssy but left the man's dick alone.

spartan117:
Go through the statement you qouted again, the answer to these questions is there already.

Could have just said I don't know how to answer your question, it would have been more understandable because nowhere in that post did you tell us how to distinguish between what a human would be capable of and what your unevidenced gods would be able to do.

TheElated177:
I think it should be an abomination for a man to marry a woman whose virginity can't be ascertained.

The promiscuity is too much. Sexual purity for unmarried people is now like an abomination in the sight of many out there.

The issue of the female folks keeping their virginity can be likened to two equations, A and B, where the solution to equation B depends wholly on the result of equation A.

The male folks will have no other choice than to abstain from sexual immorality the moment the female folks start preserving their virginity till marriage and for their husbands.

It is that simple.

LMAO! So the men that sleep with women had their penis just fall into the women's vagina? Bwahahahahaha!

elated177:
Is there a way of ascertaining the virginity of a male. And who is being castigated? Unlike the male, the female has a "seal" on her vagina placed there by her Maker. Such "seal" is supposed to be broken by her husband.


You may want to see this thread:


https://www.nairaland.com/6929795/sexual-purity#109186760

Yes because the only way a hymen can be missing is through sex. LoL. You should look up the various ways a hymen can be missing that is not caused by sex, in fact some ladies are not even born with a hymen so your god is incompetent? LMFAO

BTW are you implying your god gave the males free range not to be virgins before marriage? Who exactly are men going to sleep with, other men? Your god wanted men to be homosexual until marriage? Bwahahahahaha!

DeepSight:
The differences are primarily (1) that scientists describe their spacetime as being material - actually being a "fabric" of sorts, whereas we say that time is absolutely intangible. (2) that scientists say that time was created at the moment of the big bang, whereas we say that time could not possibly be created at all - much less by the big bang, which, being an event, could only occur in already extant time (3) that scientists describe time as a dimension of motion, whereas we say that motion occurs in time, time being always existent, permanent and eternal regardless of any particular motion.

And all the other differences which derive from the foregoing.

So going by what you said about the universe expanding and this now, it could be taken together to mean that the universe is expanding into time?

DeepSight:
The infinite immaterial continuum into which events are interpolated. That much is stated on that thread. I stated so and so did Justcool.

Almost seems like you are defining space-time. Not seeing the difference.

DeepSight:
A long time ago, a wonderful poster on this forum, Justcool, helped me out explaining what I was laboring to put across in this regard.
Please take a look at the way he put it -

https://www.nairaland.com/775552/speed-light-time-einstein-extra-universal#9318086

- in that, as well as his two succeeding posts.

I cant do better than that.

It only seems to define what "real time" is not which is it's not the scientific concept of time. Ok so what is it? You've shown what it's not but not what it is.

DeepSight:
Real time does not move anywhere, only things move in it.

What is real time?

Hismasterpiece:
By others do you mean your family? Besides you haven't even made any effort to seek God and find out the truth for yourself. Have you ever since you started to doubt God's existence tried to at least read the Bible to know the truth for yourself? Have you fasted, prayed, had Christian fellowship? You aren't being just and fair to yourself.

Not only family, friends and pastors.

Why would I do those things when they are the very things that indicate you have faith in the first place? I should fast, for what exactly? You mean the god won't respond until I starve myself and potentially put myself in a vulnerable state? LoLz. Don't you see how suspicious it is that your god only seems to respond to those already susceptible to belief?

DeepSight:
Because whatever is self-existent is also therefore immutable. Matter and the universe are mutable and as such cannot be self-existent.



I generally say I dont know. So I dont know what you are on about here. Whatever I put forward is just the limited bit that logic can afford from my humble point of view. I'm generally agnostic.

If time is self existent then how is it immutable since time is progression?

SWATMan:
Malaria is treated with antimalarial tablet. Spiritual ignorance is treated by enlightenment.

You should treat your delusional self first.

waldigit:
To start with let me let you be informed that God is no longer idea in the like of empirical evidence domain. I don't know wether you are familiar with science but if you are, please pay attention to works of inventors such as Necolas Tesla, Rodin and Gerald.
Surveillance cameras these days have captured evidences beyond reasonable doubt that non physical reality exist. NDE testimonies from humans who were clinically certified dead by credible medical records provided us with proofs. Many of them were renowned physicists, surgeons, and Atheist.
Space and aerospace technologies are providing shocking details of our universe confirming biblical truths. Get online and listen to testimonies of experts who were once unbelivers. One of them was an inventor of microchips.
Bible says and I agree that: Heavens declare the glory of God and firmament shows his handiwork. Day until day utters speach, night until night shows knowledge.
God is outside space and time, so He is not exactly like man, even though he created man in his own his image and likeness.
I am a science student and it has helped me to appreciate and love to know more about phenomenon of God.
The present age of AI has greatly helped by providing empirical confirmation of existence of God.
I appeal to you to give Jesus a trial and let him reveal God to you. This has nothing to do with religion.

Yet another god believer will come and declare that there is no empirical evidence for a god. Meanwhile please show us the video surveillance cameras caught of non-physical reality and what are the scientific discoveries out in space that confirm the bible?

SWATMan:
The universe has never and would never be in choas. It's creator is a Supreme Intelligence Who's wisdom surpasses Human understanding. If it is in choas as you mentioned, how many times have you gone to bed and the sun did not rise in the morning. All the issues you listed above Black Hole etc are part of the complex system in our universe helping it to function. Just as science has not been able to pin down the actual function(s) of the appendix in the human body does not make it useless.
Helinues this is not politics or Nigeria contemporary issues that you are well known for in nairaland this is a case of a man who was born into a religion or belief coming out to tell us he has arrived. Religion they say "evolved out of man's fear of the unknown" Every civilisation even before the rise of the 3 Abrahamic religion believes in the existence of a god or God. There are many religion in the world today hence, that chap should not come here and expose his ignorance. Atheism is usually found among people who are spiritually sick that requires an inner healing of the soul. Just as a psychotic individual needs help before his actions betray his personality so does an atheist.

What does spiritually sick mean? When we ask how you know you'll start chewing both sides of your mouth spewing gibberish.

spartan117:
The idea that microscopic organisms existed was a big fallacy before a microscope was discovered. But did that negate their existence?

The device with which you used to type this, the software that powers this forum, the Lamborghini's, Bugattis and Rolls Royce of this world were designed by someone right?
So why do you assume that the sun, the moon, the earth, the trees, the continents and the oceans as perfect as they seem don't have a designer?

Looking at the precision in the design of nature itself, the programming of the earth to revolve around the the sun and rotate around it's axis bringing day and night and seasonal changes at a specific period of time is enough to tell you that it was designed by someone. Something can never come from nothing, everything made was made by someone.

I belief it's because of all this that the Bible concluded that it will take a fool to say there is no God

I see people design cars, software, houses, etc all the time so I have evidence that someone indeed designed those things but I have yet to see anyone designing suns, moons, seasonal changes and all that so what evidence do you now present that they are designed? Not only that we can see suns forming out in space and there is nobody there with giant vehicles putting a sun together so again where is the evidence of a designer? All we see are natural processes occuring so is nature a designer? If humans by advances in technology become able to start a sun would they be gods then?

Might be pregnant with the size of it's torso.

DeepSight:
Je ne comprens pas.

The nothing we usually think about describes space with an absence of material but this is also absent of space, it has no properties. We could say it is nothing but that is kinda misleading given the former.

DeepSight:
I am used to all that. I am not bamboozled by highfalutin scientific jargon, I am not moved by the illogical. The seeming magic of the quantum realm notwithstanding, I stand with logic. There is no magic anywhere, there are only things that are not yet understood. No quantum magic anywhere will miraculously make something emerge from nothing, grant properties to nothingness, make things expand into nothingness and the like. Some of these things really should be better interrogated and in the future I have no doubt that many of these suggestions would be rested. Sadly we live in an age whereby scientists have donned a priestly garb and there is now such a thing as heresy in the scientific world - it consists of disagreeing with anything agreed upon by most mainstream scientists. In this regard, modern academia is not very different from the Roman curia of old, and its witch hunts and burnings for heresy.

Its not nothing that's the point, at least not one that can be assigned any properties.