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waldigit:
Apology for error in to the use of " round" instead of "flat"
Then you said "scientific progress" I hope the idea is not that science has never been wrong! That would be very shocking!
Again, you claim judge is not omniscient being, glad to hear that, because it's the same with all human beings.
This is why man would perpetually search for the truth which can only be obtained from personal relationship with God.
With all the glory of science, it took only tiny Covid 19 to bring the best health institution to its knees.
Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

That the Earth is a sphere has been known since antiquity so which scientist was teaching that the Earth is flat?

We are talking of the difference between fact and truth which I said functional doesn't exist while you are point ing to scientific facts as a claim that facts are not essential truths so go ahead and point out scientific facts that were not true. The Earth being flat is not one of them since that assertion has no connection with science.

If those who claim to be god believers or hear from god were infallible I would say you have something but as it turns out they are no more infallible than non-believers or non-hearers.

The fear of god is the beginning of being hoodwinked.

ZALA64:
Good evening dear Nairalanders, I have a story to share with you and I will appreciate your candid advice

I have a junior sister of about 21 years of age, finished secondary school in 2019, tried gaining admission but didn't get eventually, also did A level but at the end, there was nothing to show for, this isn't cause she is a dullard but something Sha must end up something, she applied for another A level at Unilag, and was pushing through not until the news of her pregnancy came in, she was two months gone when I got to know, I really tried to persuade her to abort because I was concerned about her Education and our parent feeling but she insisted and I allowed her take her decision, we informed my dad and mum then the big issue starts, right now my dad does not want to have anything to do with her, she is currently living at my dad's junior brother house

The most annoying part to my dad was that she got pregnant to a Christian which my dad would not approve of, even when they tried to talk to him multiple, right now, he does not care if she exist or not, all he knows is she can't live under his roof anymore

I am the elder sister and my consign goes beyond the religion issue, the boys mother is some sort of hell, didn't like my sister and she looks really fetish, the whole family looked cursed to me, the guy is the only one that managed to finish ND and he is currently learning Mechanic after his ND Program, I have tried to persuade my sister to not have the intention of getting married to the guy now, because first she's young, second how would she feed and third that family is a no no, the red flags are just too glaring, Her strong head is just too much which is why I'm putting it out, if she's reading comments from another person maybe she'd pick something, I have invited her as a guest to Nairaland and she would be seeing all your advices. Kindly help us.

Thank you.

Your sister is being foolish. She wants to sell her future for what we can't even tell. This isn't about religion but her survival which you rightly pointed out but she wants to go to where even angels fear to thread. Just let her know that if she goes she only has herself to blame for whatever outcome she gets. Your dad is not reacting well to this issue as well. This not the time to disown her. She has already made one mistake the way he is acting is only going to compound the issue because she is obviously missing parental guidance.

petra1:
[https://ohafia-tv.com/boris-johnson-abolishes-all-covid-19-restrictions-in-u-k-as-research-prove-vaccines-useless

This is how you people spread misinformation about. Search The Lancet and there is no such study published on December 30 nor is the British Government taking a cue from any such study. Also the British Government did not "Throws Away Vaccines As Useless", this one is an outright lie. So you are just full of lies and misinformation, is this now the Christian way? LoLz.

HardMirror:
Resumed working out after some years of not.
Feeling my body and improved fitness

Pix or it didn't happen.

Tetehjewels:
He actually thinks the Multiverse is a theory??

Leeeeemmaaaaooo

The height of clutching at straws and hoping you don't sink

Dude does not even know what a theory is and what a hypothesis is.

Eehweeh

LMAO! Pot calling kettle black. The multiverse is not a theory, it's a hypothesis but the one trying to point out the log in my eye has a massive forest in theirs. Bwahahahahaha!

PastorMIsBack:
Lol You have good friends.

Yep and I am grateful for them.

Meanwhile one of the characters from my favourite video game has PastorMisback's hairstyle. LoLz

Neither. When I am down my friends send me money to solve my issues.

waldigit:
There is a whole lot sir. The difference is human limitation. Our limitation made us taught Earth was round for centuries. In those period that was scientific fact, but alas the Earth is spherical, that is the "truth"

Huh? What do mean by round versus spherical? Do you mean scientists taught that the earth was a round flat disc?

What we celebrate today as scientific fact may become illusion tomorrow.
My Bible teaches" trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding.
In my profession, I am used to a lot human and instrument error.

I don't think you understand how scientific progress works. Take gravity as an example, gravity was thought to be an attraction between bodies but with Einstein's theories it was discovered that gravity is not an attraction but rather it is disturbance in the space time continuum by energy or matter. Those who previously described gravity were not wrong because they described the relationship between masses mathematically correctly but they were not correct in their general description. That did not mean they had a wrong fact, one doesn't call a description a fact. The facts don't change, like the mathematical description of gravity remains accurate even though we have a better understanding of what it is. Nor is instrumental inaccuracy mean facts have changed.

That is why we Christians rely on Holy Spirit for the truth.

You rely on an untestable and an unreliable method and you have the gall to castigate scientific change? LMAO.

Even human judicial system relies on judgement which is based on what appears to be event to independent reasonable observer. This is why its not authoritative truth but what is humanly possible to be admitted as truth.

You are mixing subjective judgement with established facts. Judicial systems are not arbiters of truth or else their judgements would be impossible to over turn. They are arbiters of law and how it applies to society. A judge is not an omniscient being and so cannot stay in his chambers and know what the truth of a matter is, what they do is determine how a case presented to them is affected by the law. If you think a judge is an arbiter of truth you are sorely mistaken.

elated177:
You ain't getting from me any response on this issue.

Not surprised, you'd rather wallow in ignorance than accept facts.

Ah so the parents contributed to his demise. How sad.

paxonel:
check the screen shot below.

Agnostic is the position characterized by uncertainty about the existence of God.
Unlike Atheists who are certain that God do not exist as if they are very sure
Einstein probably was an atheist initially and claimed to be very sure. But as the man was becoming more knowledgeable, at some point he changed his position about the existence of God and landed at a final conclusion which was "I DON'T KNOW WHETHER GOD EXIST OR NOT ". That was a very sincere and a better position than atheism. Hence, Wikipedia wrote that he was agnostic.

Not all atheists declare that they are certain there is no God. I for one describe myself as an agnostic-atheist because while do not have any belief in a god or gods I am not certain that God's exist or not so you are wrong to say that because Einstein described himself as agnostic he therefore couldn't have been an atheist.

Now, for the op to come here and start affirming that Eintern was intelligent because he was an atheist, is a grade 1 fallacy he committed there.
Because, there are no intelligence affirming what you don't know about in the first place.

Wrong again. The OP never made such a declaration, perhaps your prejudice against atheists is what is giving you that impression.

PastorMIsBack:
Yes my lord Congratulations.

Sent a PM. Thanks for your kindhearted gesture. Now I can buy daughters that giant pizza they've been dreaming of. LoLz

Hanks0000:
Congratulations

Thanks!

hupernikao:
@LordReed we once discussed this. That so called atheist always claim to be higher in intelligence but you said you never read that before on NL. Now you have it. Prof Workch has done it again.

I had to go searching for the previous discussion in other to respond to this. Turns out what you said was "I thought they said atheists were full of knowledge" so please relate it to the OP.

HardMirror:
There are many proves that christians in particular don't trust the prayers they make even though they would defend their belief with a lot of noise (and violence).

HERE IS THE CHALLENGE

Imagine Armed robbers enter a christian home- your home. After beating the living day light out of you and your family, they got blood thirsty and decide to kill all of you.

Now they confirmed you are all christian and believe in God so they decide to be fair to u guys.

YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE PRIVELEDGE OF PRAYING TO GOD FOR PROTECTION

BUT

YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN

A GUN SHOT TO YOUR HEADS

OR

THEY SHOULD COMMAND ESU to strike you all dead using the charms they came in with.


WHICH WILL YOU CHOOSE and WHY?


We all know the obvious Answer.

NO believer will choose a gun shot to the head. NONE. Not even if you pour all the anointing oil on yourself.
Somehow, your subconscious knows your prayers can never protect you from certain death.
You know your brains would be splattered on the floor once the trigger is pulled.

You will rather choose ESU killing u while you pray because you subconsciously know that both ESU and YOUR GOD aint real.

Think about this.

Why do we excuse God when real challenges surface. Why do we choose scientifically proven things over believe in God when it matters?

So why do christians pray?

*they pray JUST IN CASE there is God and he answers them

*they pray because it makes them feel good. The feeling that u are talking to an almighty being can be pleasurable.

*they pray because they are expected to.


The subject of prayer is not something we can fully deal dissect. It is a broad topic.
Prayer has it's benefits, but does not matter when it matters.

LMAO @ Esu kill me. Of course they'll pick that option, everybody wan go heaven nobody wan die. Bwahahahahaha!

Ayo081:
As at today? This is strange to me.

It is strange to you that the religious and conservatives don't want abortion to be legal?

PastorMIsBack:
Happy New Month family.

If you’ve been following the news in the UK, the Govt made it mandatory for all NHS staff to receive the COVID vaccination by 1st April. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the mandate has been scrapped today so 70,000 plus NHS staff, including moi, will not be losing our jobs or forced to take a vaccine we don’t want. Body autonomy. My body, My choice etc.

To celebrate this victory (there were protests etc), I will give 5 of my followers £10 each.

READ CAREFULLY
These are all my followers (in the order I was followed):
@ isaiah4life
@ Miracood2
@ Ayo081
@ Zee0007
@ Healthrelatedjo
@ Itachi23
@ STARKENNETH
@ Hanks0000
@ Wanbissaka
@ SurvivorM
@ OjNafisat
@ ColddIce
@ LordReed
@ Corbin

I will put all these names into a hat and draw out 5 names. Watch the clip to see if your name is drawn out. If it is, drop your account details. You have 24 hours. If your details are not received, I will draw out another name until I get 5 winners.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOmbNqzaGAc

Yippee I won!

PastorMIsBack:
Happy New Month family.

If you’ve been following the news in the UK, the Govt made it mandatory for all NHS staff to receive the COVID vaccination by 1st April. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the mandate has been scrapped today so 70,000 plus NHS staff, including moi, will not be losing our jobs or forced to take a vaccine we don’t want. Body autonomy. My body, My choice etc.

To celebrate this victory (there were protests etc), I will give 5 of my followers £10 each.

READ CAREFULLY
These are all my followers (in the order I was followed):
@ isaiah4life
@ Miracood2
@ Ayo081
@ Zee0007
@ Healthrelatedjo
@ Itachi23
@ STARKENNETH
@ Hanks0000
@ Wanbissaka
@ SurvivorM
@ OjNafisat
@ ColddIce
@ LordReed
@ Corbin

I will put all these names into a hat and draw out 5 names. Watch the clip to see if your name is drawn out. If it is, drop your account details. You have 24 hours. If your details are not received, I will draw out another name until I get 5 winners.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOmbNqzaGAc

LoL! I love how the religious and conservatives claim body autonomy when it comes to vaccines but want to force women to have babies they don't want. Bwahahahahaha!

paxonel:
Google search of Wikipedia account says he was Agnostic, not and atheist.
It follows that though he may be an atheist at some point, but he never ended as an atheist but as agnostist

Agnostic about what? What is the definition of agnostic and how does it apply to Einstein?

paxonel:
thank you.

This one is much better.

But still, there are no indication in the letter that he actually died as an atheist, right?

Was there indication he died as a Christian or as an adherent of any other religion?

elated177:
It is hilarious that you chose to imply sexual promiscuity thousands of years ago. I thought you didn't believe the Scriptures?

I don't but you do so the onus is on you to explain how what you believe in fits into your narrative.

The glamorization of sex by the media is for sexual promiscuity today. Don't you know what sexual promiscuity means?
Did Lot deliberately sleep with his daughters?

You said my view of sex as a natural appetite was because of media, I didn't say anything about sexual promiscuity. Did Judah not delibrately sleep with a woman who was clearly not his wife?

Hey, just simmer down. Do not be too quick to label anything "ignorance". I knew you would mention them. Are you saying that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, and the prophets of the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty all practised the withdrawal method?

Are there documents to show that such knowledge was available to women thousands or hundreds of years ago?

There are many things to do with energy, Reed. Wasting them on meaningless sex is not one of them.

It is ignorance to claim that there were no methods of family planning in ancient times. Google it and find out yourself if the ancients had no methods.

LoL @ meaningless sex. Not unexpected from a person forming celibacy or are you a eunuch? Have you ever had sex before to know if it was meaningless or not?

elated177:
Be reasonable, Reed.

You be reasonable, you are the one calling the hymen a god given seal so tell me is your god wicked to make some ladies with hymens that require surgical removal? Or is he incompetent that some ladies have no hymen at all?

waldigit:
On that note I submit that "fact" may not be the "truth" . Do you agree?

There is no functional difference between fact and truth.

waldigit:
Teach me pls.

Evidence are facts that taken together point to an exclusive conclusion. You cannot point at something open ended and claim it is evidence for your god. The facts you present need to point to the exclusive conclusion that a god exists and is the creator of the universe.

waldigit:
I have given enough evidences. If you don't like them, well that's not my problem. One day you will understand.

LoL. You have not given evidence, you gave analogies. Analogies are not evidence. It looks designed is not evidence.

Beautifulearth:
Met my girl 2yrs ago and we apparently love each other but I’m worried due to some factors I noticed…..

She’s from a dysfunctional family (Mother is a single mom who left her home because her husband married another wife and Her Sister is currently in her third marriage with 3 kids from 3diff men).

She’s insisting on doing things we agreed she wouldn’t do, she was using leg chain when we met and she stopped it because I told her I don’t like it(I don’t like ashawo vibez like 2-3neckchains, leg chains and piercing) now she’s insisting on doing some of them which led to a great misunderstanding between us which we still trying to resolve.

And lastly we do have little quarrels a lot even tho most would be settled because we both have anger issues and sometimes get physical with each other because she will lash out and will try to want to stand up and fight you like a man and my mom really doesn’t like her because of her quarrelsome attitude and only support me because I love her……..we stayed this long because I never suspect or caught her guilty of infidelity(I go through her phone unaware and she never gave me a reason to suspect her) which is a trait I always wanted above others in a woman.

If you are thinking of getting married then both of you need to reign in your anger issues or else your marriage won't last a day. Marriage will provide you many more opportunities to be angry so if you don't want to be angry every day of your marriage you better start working on yourselves now.

yomi007k:
Please let us be logical in this situation.


The health worker is trying to prevent an outbreak of polio which if it happens will cause so much problems than we already have in this country.

I think the school should be closed down.

Rubbish. The school cannot be closed because they didn't give the school the chance to seek parental consent, it is standard practice to have the parents give consent, it's not by force.

Mrshape:
When health workers come to a school, will they not allow the school to contact the parents before they vaccinate their children?
Some health workers came to my school and started disturbing the peace of the school because we told her we will contact the parents and seek their consent before they can vaccinate the children, she started shouting they will close down the school, this that, torn the visitors book, we have to tell her to go. We contacted our parents some refused most said we go ahead then told the local health center to come and vaccinate the children tommorow.

I want to know do they have right to force vaccine on children without parents consent?

They do not. She probably had a quota to reach that's why she acted unhinged. You have the right to hold off and seek parental approval and any parents has the right to reject the vaccination though its a good idea to take it anyway.

paxonel:
upload a link to any of the reference you claim you wrote in the op if you are not lying.
Who cares about reading through your lies?

Meanwhile, check a Wikipedia report about him contrary to your deluded op that he was an atheist

Read this:

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/fine-books-and-manuscripts-including-the-eric-c-caren-collection/einstein-albert-typed-letter-signed-a-einstein-to

Mystic969:
He believed in the supernatural

He did not.

killyaselfie:
And European tribes were killing one another and everybody else before and after christianity. What’s your point?

The two world wars were centered in the "Christian Europe" with a death toll that would have wiped out the population of an African nation at that time. Let them keep deceiving themselves.