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GlobalWay:
It is well known that bones of Whales, etc have been found in those Deserts, and only one Truth is sensible explanation for these, that Noah's Floor was real! Our CREATOR once Judged the World and HE would soon Judge again. All the Deceptions of the agents of the Devil to hide HIM from majority has failed for those that truly Seek HIM. Exactly as written in Genesis, Scientists have recently confirmed that their is Ocean above is that is several Times more massive than all the Oceans of the World. Nothing like Moon-Landing or outer Space, the Firmament that Holds the Water above can Never be penetrated.

We're talking evidence based facts, this one's bringing baseless ancient mythology and conspiracy theories. 🤡

22jumpstreet:
Those so called scholars were all paid to keep the lying and deception going. They know the truth. If you decide to block your ears to the truth, it is your problem, not mine. And don't come here claiming he existed with no concrete proof. I will continue to debunk it.

"Those so called scholars were all paid to keep the lying" 🤣 Typical conspiracy nutjob, what did they pay them with? Milk and honey?! Who paid em? A talking snake i guess. What a joke. Funniest part is you citing those same scholars when you thought they agreed with your agenda, like how closeminded can one be(I don't forget that hilarious and embarrassing thread). Like I said empty noise backed by empty claims that would never change facts. You should check your dictionary to know the meaning of "debunk". Empty baseless noise is never debunking, anyways goodluck " debunking"😁

logicalhumour:
Nooo. How will someone prefer their traditional ways over Christianity and the way of our lord Jesus?

Even though God is a white man, it doesn't mean anything. We should all abandon our traditions and follow completely the ways of the white man. That is the only way to salvation, hear me now!

Can't you see that the white men that brought Christianity to us still uphold it's core values, and have in no way deviated from the rules of God? Do you see them supporting or doing satanic things? No! We must bow to them and their God I tell you.

Christainity/religion is totally not a means to make us complacent. Hallelujah!

Hallelujah amen brother. I can feel the spirit that is holy flowing through you.

22jumpstreet:
I don't deal with believes or emotion.
The Jesus portrayed in the gospel never never existed. For once, the Jews don't have the idea of god mating with women. It is a Greek/Roman theology. The Jewish Messiah is a man from the line of David, through Solomon. The two contradictory genealogies in Mathew and Luke can never produce a Messiah. The real Messiah is not coming to die for sins, God already gave them a solution to the problem of sin. He is coming to bring peace....

And I couldn't care less for your theological gish gallop, they're all nonsense and baseless mythology as far as I'm concerned, Jewish and Christain alike. Non of that speaks to the FACT he existed, believing or denying it wouldn't change a general and academic consensus older than 80yrs. You might want to get to writing your paper backed by evidence to change it, so we adopt yours as the new consensus and fact. No?! Till then you're just another noisy person on the Internet spouting baseless claims.

22jumpstreet:
I am denying the historicity of Jesus.....hẹ never existed. There is nọ mention of hin till the 2nd century CE. Hẹ wae written into existence, by the greeks........
When the jews later later saw the gospel, they laughed their heada off.....

Deny all you want, don't think anyone cares, it literally wouldn't change the fact and luckily facts & truths don't care about belief or denial.

Steep:
even historians who anti Christianity cannot deny the historicity of Christ. The writers of the gospels are not unknown they are Mathew mark Luke and John.
So Jesus is not a myth after all, right? You guys are in deep trouble.

No one is arguing Jesus didn't exist, it's basically a fact and consensus about 80yrs old, what is also a fact is my previous statement, there's zero evidence for any of the supernatural claims about him and like other historical figures - see Alexander who was claimed to be the son of Zeus - all of the supernatural claims are basically mythlogical which is a fact. If they're not provide evidence they happened which obviously you can't.

As for your gospel claim that the writers are known, if they're known it wouldn't be difficult to identify the names of the authors within the texts as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John right. So pls show us where within the texts the authors Matthew, Mark, Luke & John, identify themselves or any evidence they wrote it. Again, obviously you can't. End of story.

And to properly kill off that baseless assertion of known writers, how did poor stark illiterate peasants who spoke Aramaic in a time period where the literacy rate was less than 2% somehow manage to write in sophisticated greek and chose not to write in Aramaic or say Hebrew, more than 50 years after. Empty claims lol!

Steep:
Jesus is a real historical figure and the books of the gospel are reliable historical narrativ of the life and death of Jesus. Your calender were dated base on this historical figure Jesus.

"and the books of the gospel are reliable historical narrativ of the life and death of Jesus."

This is an outright lie, this is 2025 please let's ease off on peddling outright disingenuous claims as facts. How can the narrative be historical when it was written decades after by anonymous non - eyewitnesses with inconsistent narratives that contradicts not just itself but what we know from the available historical data. Yes the gospel are historical sources but when they're analyzed they fall apart.

The only events considered plausible from the gospels about Jesus' life was that he was baptized and he was crucified nothing more. Everything else especially the supernatural claims have zero evidence or data to support them and on analysis some are even influenced by older existing motifs from nearby cultures and religions.

"Why did god create us"

One would first have to ask which of the gods, for they're quite many laying claim to been the one(s) who 'created' everything. Then one would then have to assertain as factual, one of these gods out of the many is indeed the one who created everything. As it stands, there's zero evidence or data for any of these so called gods nor any evidence or data that suggests the universe and it's contents were 'created'. So asking that question would not give any objective factual answer, just the typical subjective and baseless fluff disguised and asserted as facts.

bewildered:
Yet some people will be saying they want to be Muslim. Religion of peace is spreading violence and destruction but Christians are providing relief. It's not strange though,it's a sign of the end times.

Christainity is just a different side of the same coin as Islam. One's just hypocritical to pretend it's violence free when it's obviously not. They've both left so much violence and destruction in their wake.

Obviously there's none, zero, nada, zilch. Even the bible that makes the claim can't harmonize said claim and is contradictory af. It is factual to say he never resurrected, crucified like a common criminal, and remained dead as one.

Timblogga:
I never know Lions observe empathy but that aside, how did people know that stealing or murder was wrong without any form of indoctrination, in the context of the Human mind being a tabula rasa? What made right right and what makes wrong wrong?

Now you know. Seems comprehension is an issue, cause i already addressed that and ur other comment. How did those doing the indoctrinating know?.

Timblogga:
what makes right, right if there were no form of rules and control? I'm curious. Also, when responding remember how kings were buried in the olden days, the rituals your forefathers did, and respond in context of how it's a crime in this modern age. Oya, let's hear from you.

Because morality is subjective and grows with reason and thought and exists without religion or superstition. Same "rules" don't apply everywhere. It's rooted in empathy, social co-operation, thought and reason. Even in societies without formal religion, people still knew stealing or murder was wrong, not because of fear of divine punishment, but because it destroyed trust and harmed others, harm which they didn't like to happen to themselves.

Even in animals that don't have a rule book to follow, empathy is usually observed even across species. That's why those practices are abandoned just like the practices in the so called morality rule book whose recommendations for almost everything amoral is to stone to death and burn alive. Why don't you stone people to death and burn them alive if your rule book is valid and objective. It's quite simple common sense really.

Lol! I would never not find it funny when delusional people who believe in a different brand of delusion, scoff at others for having a brand of delusion different from theirs like it's not all delusion. Quite ironic.

triplechoice:
But still,her decision not to marry a Yahoo boy is commendable . Don't you think so?

Yes absolutely. The right thing is still the right thing at the end of the day regardless of intentions.

"...because i do not want to bring curses upon them..."

This is the problem with religious and superstitious people, you would not do it beacuse it's the right thing to do but for the fear of punishment or the promise of a reward. Half baked morality.

🤣 Dafuq is this. Severally i've been told not to make a "mockery" of xtainity and like i always say you don't need me to do that, you guys do a great job yourselves. Just look at this circus show. Clowns.

Kingray10:
Queen & slim
If you are no emotional strong, I recommend you don't watch it.

Wanted to mention this movie myself. I normally watch movies i enjoy more than once, not this one. Quite sad man.

Everyday247:
doesn't the bolded also apply to this god?

All you'd get is the tired cliche of special pleading.

Joshthefirst:
How does the above mean God proofed into existence?

Is this a joke. You assert your god just exists, what's that if not what it is.

Joshthefirst:
No one said God poofed into existence.
How can you create your own adversary and be arguing against it?

"God is timeless and hence doesn't have a beginning."

Joshthefirst:
Why are you talking nonsense?

How is his post contradictory or baseless?

Give me one single example of life coming from non life. Just one.

Quite obvious you're the one talking nonsense. Only you opened your mouth to say life can't come from non life then turned around to claim your god just poofed into existence out of thin air like a magic trick, then also poofed life from non life out of thin air, again like a magic trick. If that's not the poster boy for baseless and contradictory, i don't know what is. Got any evidence for your assertions?! Bjg fat no, ergo baseless.

Steep:
your question does not make sense, God is timeless and hence doesn't have a beginning.

Neither does your contradictory nd baseless assertion which is why you have to resort to special pleading.

Steep:
Intelligence cannot come from non Intelligence, life cannot come from non life. This is the delima of naturalists.
The order and design of the universe plus the existence of life shows there is a living immaterial, spaceless and timeless personal being called God.

If intelligence cannot come from non intelligence and life cannot come from non life whence comes your god? (sp)

BibleInterpreta:
They are usually the loudest. I began to recognize them, the same characters, over and over. Not names. Types. Archetypes. Personas wearing human faces but driven by algorithms of ego, ignorance, and contrarian fuel.
They were everywhere.
They weren’t just wrong. They were confidently wrong.
And disturbingly… they were convincing to many.
But let’s rewind. Let’s take them one by one.
Know Your Goal: Influence the Bystanders, Not Win the Argument
You're not trying to "win" the troll over, you’re modeling clarity for the truth-seekers watching.

🤡

BibleInterpreta:
You can’t out-comment them.
You can’t out-volume them.
You can out-think them.

Tactical Suggestions:

Spot the Archetype Early: Notice their patterns.
Does someone dismiss facts outright (belief perseverance)?
Are they overly confident yet very ignorant (Dunning-Kruger)?
Are they arguing just to argue (contrarian)?
They thrive on reactions. Starve them by focusing on substantive points.
And if you don’t speak up, the silent majority hears only one side.
Refuse emotional baiting.
And most importantly: don’t let the noise break your own clarity.

😄 Guess i brought out the kuKu 🤡

BibleInterpreta:
Social Media Comment Section Is Where Intelligence Goes To Die
Have you encountered any of these personas on social media?" - especially to provoke thought or spark replies:
Dunning-Kruger Disciple
Belief Perseverance Poster
Contrarian Disorder Commenter
Drop your most unforgettable encounter 👇

Its funny how fast the patronizing nice guy act turns into snarky condescending ad hominems once the baseless assertions are shown up for the absolute undemonstrable nonsense they are. Predictable yet never fails to make me laugh. At least there was one demonstration for the so called "quiet ones" watching. 😅

P.S He even had to edit and change the comment to make it more snarky. Dude was like this one aint mean enough.😄

BibleInterpreta:
Your demand for ‘objective evidence’ ignores the fact that objectivity itself is a construct of the observer’s development - Einstein
You are wrong to assume evidence is only what your current perception can grasp.

Ever spent time on Nairaland or social media and felt like the same types of people show up in every argument? That’s because they do.
Dunning-Kruger Disciple: The super confident guy who talks like an expert but clearly doesn’t understand what he’s saying.
Then there’s the Belief Perseverance Poster: One who sticks to false info no matter how many facts you show them, and the Contrarian Disorder Commenter: The always-opposite dude who disagrees just to stand out. These kinds of people aren’t just annoying, they confuse others, spread lies, and make real conversations harder. The best thing you can do? Spot them early, don’t fall for the bait, and always speak clearly so others, the quiet ones watching, can see what makes sense.

The irony is just too frigging loud and funny, like quoting Einstein while denying the very objectivity that made his work revolutionary. Objectivity isn’t a vibe you “develop,” it’s the standard by which claims/assertions are tested regardless of who's observing. Your method isn’t reproducible, unless you count repeating vague feelings and calling them data. Even your fellow religious peope all over this thread have called you out for spouting nonsense confidently and yet you stuck with it. Talk about irony.

And funny how you pivot to diagnosing me with internet personality disorders, as if projection counts as argument. I'm not here to impress the “quiet ones watching”, I’m here to call out nonsense for what it is. Nonsense asserted as facts by lieing, dishonest, disngenious and confused people Who claim to know what they're saying by spouting absolute dross like the "bible precedes religion". Someone who isn't thinking wouldn't even say something that dumb but yet... Frigging irony.

Still waiting on one just one claim that's testable beyond your own imagination. Even the schizophrenic have a vivid imagination to come up with undemonstratable and unerifiable nonsense. You ain't special. There's a reason u've got nothing but vague empty noise. It's undemonstrable nonsense 😌.

Ogamysamo:
I use WhatsApp AI to generate idea and prompts to come up with something, sometimes go to AI chat for elaboration and then I do the final editing and fine tooning

IMO it's the one of the worst.

BibleInterpreta:
I am not giving you riddles, I am handing you the entrance to a method that will train your perception to see the universal laws governing soul, society, and creation itself.

In science, we don’t ask the microscope to explain itself, we learn to use it. You are not asked to believe. You are asked to apply the method and measure the result:
Do you experience increased connection, clarity, inner cohesion, perception of the universal system?
If yes, continue.
If no, discard it.

That is the only honest methodology, and it is what the bible meant by 'Taste and see that the Creator is good,' not believe, but taste. Experience. Test.

Objectivity Itself Evolves

Your demand for ‘objective evidence’ ignores the fact that objectivity itself is a construct of the observer’s development - Einstein

You are in the dream. I’m showing you the method to wake up, not to argue inside the dream.

The ‘testable claim’ you seek is you yourself. The method develops a person’s ability to perceive the higher forces that operate desire, not philosophically, but in a repeatable, observable way within the person’s corrected vessels of perception. That is the methodology. It is ancient (since 5,785 years ago), tested, documented, and reproducible, but it requires using you egoistic desire with the intention to bestow toward people, just as a microscope requires calibration before it reveals microorganisms.


Noteworthy

You are not wrong to ask for evidence.

You are wrong to assume evidence is only what your current perception can grasp.

I offer a reproducible methodology to expand perception.

If you apply it, the evidence will emerge within you - not as belief, but as transformation.

Don’t believe me, try it. If it’s false, you’ll know. If it’s true, you’ll know even more.

What you actually need is a dictionary. Your so called “reproducible methodology” is entirely subjective, personal experience isn't and is never a substitute for objective evidence when dealing with truth. Truth isn’t whatever you feel after meditating hard enough. It’s objective. Look it up.