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Gabrielshow24:
You are missing the point. Like they say the best form of view is from above. Because from above you get a perfect outlook of things, a complete view not based on lateral perceptions. God made creation, man included; he wanted all of his handwork to dwell with him. Hence the repetitive emphasis across the bible for the gathering of all creation unto him. Irrespective of this zeal(interest) to have his children be with him. he gave them freewill. This freewill creates branches from the will(ideal) of God, some of these branches are fatal. Now a little thought, if God were to be Life and we are living because we have life(physical life) then if this life were to be taken away what becomes of you, dust!. So is the spiritual Life as many as are not joined or dwell with God will not partake of this Life and hence they die. Wisdom dictates that if you give a person free choice then you must have all the solutions to whatsoever decision that the person will choose. Because the more choices people have the worst they become some of these choices become counterintuitive. That solution is the Son(being joined to the son). That's why he is the tree of Life and we are grafted to it. So it doesn't matter what decisions you make as long as you are joined to this Tree😊 that's the point.

In case it wasn't clear from my comment, maybe you missed the sacarsm. I think your bible is a steaming pile of horse shit, so no need for plenty sermon except you have proof which you obviously dont, only then would i care to listen.

MaxInDHouse:
Typical of an atheist!

You asked a SCIENCE based question but instead of concentrating on science textbooks you're insisting a RELIGIOUS book provide the answer you want!

I'm not even an atheist and even they have common sense enough to have found most of the answers in science. What's very funny though, is a book about fiction saying and insisting the 1 + 1 as found in mathematics textbooks isn't 2 but 3. It'll be properly ridiculed and laughed at. Nevermind the fact that the book about fiction contradicts itself at every turn in its fiction, sometimes even on the same page. Even way funnier is when anyone who reads the book of fiction comes to their own subjective conclusion and interpretation and scoffs at those who reach differing conclusions as wrong. Such a book with just very little logic is rightly laughed at and taken as a big fucking joke that it is, same with those who read and insist on it being true and fact. All a big fucking joke with no recourse and nothing to back it up other than noise and absolute delusion.

Odingo1:
It may not be directly written there, the scientific implications of genetic disease disorders that occur from such inbreeding is what matters. How come the Koran book of god don’t know that.

Same way i'ld ask how come the bible and the god of the bible fail to know the same thing?

MindHacker9009:
Your opinion is not based on critical analysis of the historical information we now have available other than the NT. The point I have been making is that Jesus christ is an invention of the Roman empire and was used as a psychological warfare and later as a political tool within the Roman empire and to the rest of the world where the Europeans have occupied.

Flavius Josephus in order to save his life had to switch to the side of the Roman empire, he was giving a place to stay in the palace of the Roman emperor and was made to write about the invented Jesus christ and the fake resurrection, to make it look like it is true because it's coming from a Jewish first century prophet and historian. But the truth is that Jews see him as a traitor that betrayed his own people.

There were other people called Jesus in the first century but the half man/ half god was an invention of the Roman empire. It was easy to invent a story of a fake virgin birth, a fake resurrection with all four stories contradicting themselves, fake accession. But it is impossible to fake the second coming even though all the prophecies of the invented Jesus christ came to pass in seventy AD when Jerusalem and the Temple in Jerusalem were destroyed. 
    
About the Torah you mentioned you can as well ask which Ifa or which Ogun, or which Shango, or which Olókun.

If you really want to understand how the Roman empire invented Jesus Christ then you need to watch this documentary: CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

At first when writing my previous comment when i said you move from conclusion to evidence i wanted to add that you're like someone who stumbled across some random youtube video but i thought it was condescending so i left it out. Unfortunately you've gone ahead to prove my thought right by actually citing a youtube source which is quite shallow for a source even if based on Atwill's work.

First of like i said earlier my position is not an opinion, its consensus fact, so it doesn't matter what some random online person says. Scholars way more knowledgeable than i'ld ever be, that have dedicated their lives to the study of the subject matter came to this conclusion and not even anytime recently. It's not a debated matter anymore by scholars. So when i hear people with this your theory i know, they haven't got a clue, no offense.

I've talked about this with an atheist on here as well and he too cited youtube sources which was really funny and I'm not even a theist. Reputable scholars like Bart Ehrman, Dale Allison, Maurice Casey and John Meier to name a few have rubbished this claim. Even mythicist scholars like Richard Carrier who don't believe Jesus existed have rubbished this particular roman claim from scholars like Joseph Atwill who i referenced in my prev comment that hold this view. And his case is way more put together than the shallow defense you put up here, sourced from some random youtube video with a similar title to Atwills book and likely based on his work. Like seriously who uses youtube as a source, you're not going to be taken seriously by anyone who knows what they're talking about be it theist/atheist or agnostic, in biblical history terms.

As for my Torah questions, i knew you didn't know what you were talking about ergo dodged giving responses. Like its funny, what original or fake Torah contains absolute differences in the content i mentioned about morals, extermely laughable to then suggest Christians changed it, besides the Torah is just the first five books of the Hebrew bible or Tanakh and not the whole thing like you allude to. That claim is basically nonsense as well. If you would like a reputable source to educate yourself i'll suggest Professor Hayes' "Introduction to the Old testament" course from the University of Yale.

DaddyCoool:
Child, there are no inconsistencies in the Bible about the really important things. You won't see anywhere where it says Moses received 8 Commandments or that Elizabeth was the mother of Christ, or that the Lord said kill your neighbor, etc

Really! So we are making progress then, first we started with no contradictions or inconsistencies, then we moved to no inconsistencies "of the really important things" 😁. Btw who determines what's important and what's not seeing as no 2 christains agree on the interpretation of the bible from cover to cover, despite been divinely inspired. Then again if it was divinely inspired it'll be contradiction and inconsistency free as God is perfect and not an author of confusion right?!

Anyways i'm sure you would say, God saying "Thou shall not kill" and then commanding them to kill severally because "reasons", while claiming to be a god of love is not an inconsistency or contradiction. So a simpler litmus test then, simple question i like asking you guys. Does god change his mind?! Simple Yes or No.

MaxInDHouse:
It does!

If you're asked to use what you experienced in life to teach your child will you go into academics or what the child needed to start his own carrier in life?
It's only when you want your child to practice your profession that you must teach him what has to do with your profession but if not then all the child needs from you is fatherly care.
That's what the Bible is all about it's not a SCIENCE TEXTBOOK!

Dude you really need to give up on the use of analogies cause I'm yet to see any of your analogies that ever make sense, seriously. 😁 Awesome side stepping of the points i raised so as not to address them.

MindHacker9009:
Here are proofs:
The Book of Acts claims Three Thousand souls were added to the Church in just one day, and that daily the Church grew, this was around 33 CE after the ascension of Jesus. Flavius Josephus the only Jewish historian in the first century that Christians do refer to for reference was born in the year 37 CE just three years after the fake ascension of Jesus christ and Josephus stated that there were only three sects in existence when he was 16, and he did not hear of Christianity.
Flavius Josephus: "And when I was about sixteen years old, I had a mind to make trim of the several sects that were among us. These sects are three: - The first is that of the Pharisees, the second that Sadducees, and the third that of the Essenes, as we have frequently told you; for I thought that by this means I might choose the best, if I were once acquainted with them all; so I contented myself with hard fare, and underwent great difficulties, and went through them all."

The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, writing in the first century, mentions several individuals named Jesus (or Yeshua in Hebrew). It was a common name at the time, so multiple figures with the name appear in his works. Here are the individuals named Jesus that Josephus mentioned, but with Jesus of Nazareth he did not say 'son of' which historians have claimed for a Jewish writer not to mention the 'son of' shows it is a sign that was a made up story and it's either he left the clue himself or a forger added it later:

1. Jesus, son of Ananias
Mentioned in: The Jewish War (Book 6, Chapter 5, Sections 3)
Role: A prophetic figure
Details: Around AD 62, Jesus, son of Ananias, was a commoner who began to prophesy doom for Jerusalem. He wandered through the streets during the Feast of Tabernacles, repeatedly shouting warnings of the city's destruction. Despite being arrested, beaten, and questioned by Roman authorities, he continued his proclamations. He was eventually killed during the siege of Jerusalem by a stone launched from a Roman catapult.

2. Jesus, son of Gamaliel
Mentioned in: The Jewish War (Book 4, Chapter 3, Sections 9)
Role: High Priest
Details: Jesus, son of Gamaliel, served as a High Priest in Jerusalem shortly before the First Jewish-Roman War. He was involved in the political and religious leadership of the city during this tumultuous period but was removed from office after a short tenure.

3. Jesus, son of Sapphias
Mentioned in: The Jewish War (Book 2, Chapter 20, Sections 4)
Role: Leader of rebels in Tiberias
Details: Jesus, son of Sapphias, was a leader of a rebellious faction in Tiberias during the Jewish revolt against Rome. He played a key role in the violence that erupted in Galilee, seizing the city's royal palace and massacring a group of Roman sympathizers.

4. Jesus, brother of James (Jesus of Nazareth)
Mentioned in: Antiquities of the Jews (Book 20, Chapter 9, Section 1)
Role: Religious leader
Details: Josephus refers to Jesus of Nazareth, the central figure of Christianity, indirectly through a reference to his brother James. In this passage, Josephus discusses the illegal execution of James, "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ" (Χριστός). While this is a brief mention, it is significant because it confirms that Josephus was aware of Jesus and his movement.

5. Jesus, son of Damnaeus
Mentioned in: Antiquities of the Jews (Book 20, Chapter 9, Section 1)
Role: High Priest
Details: After the execution of James, the brother of Jesus (Jesus of Nazareth), Jesus, son of Damnaeus, was appointed as High Priest by the Roman authorities. This appointment came as a political maneuver during a period of unrest in Jerusalem.

6. Jesus, son of Thebuthus
Mentioned in: The Jewish War (Book 6, Chapter 8, Section 3)
Role: Temple official
Details: Jesus, son of Thebuthus, was involved in the events leading to the Roman siege of Jerusalem in AD 70. He is mentioned as one of the officials who surrendered sacred Temple items to the Romans in an attempt to gain favor and spare his own life.

How does this in any way prove that Jesus was a fictionalized invention of the romans created to do what you said. If anything it even counters your claim by pointing to an actual historical Jesus which Josephus did. All you did was show me what we already know that christainity was an offshoot of Judaism, where you expecting a new created sect to have fully formed . According to academic scholar Dan Maclellan, even by the time of the writing of the first gospel of Mark around 70CE, the no of christains compared to the general population was like 1000 to basically millions, besides Jospehus was talking about Jewish sects. This doesn't serve the purpose you think it does.

Yes there were several individuals named Jesus as it was a common name but again i don't see how this helps your claim instead again its the opposite since he was uniquely identified out of the others because the unique identifier was how he was popularly known, and was sufficient enough to identify him. Even if that wasn't the case how does the lack of "son of lead" to the conclusion you came up with. Its rather poorly done, maybe read Atwill's book to form a better argument to support this your claim.

Like most theists you come to a conclusion and look for and as well bend evidence to support that conclusion when it should be the other way round with the evidence leading to the conclusion. Like i said earlier it's ready a consensus and has gone past opinion amongst scholars, there was a historical Jesus the Christ, did he do what was said in the bible?! That's a different matter all together. Even for mythicists that deny the historical Jesus, the claim that a historical Jesus was a roman invention is clearly disputed and not consensus. So this your proof is rather poor cause it doesn't support you claim at all, even though its a legitimate source.

P.S You keep dodging my questions about the Torah, right from your first thread. Lol!

Odingo1:
My research on Christian Bible shows that the act was prohibited by Moses on their way to promise land. It is forbidden for them to marry their uncle daughter or stepdaughter.
Leviticus 20:17-21 and Deuteronomy 27:20-23 clearly prohibited those practices for the Jews.

Did you read what you posted at all? lol! Quote it to show where it says what you say it says. And how's does that excuse the clear hypocrisy when incestuous relationships still happened, something you're against another religion for permitting. God even killed a man for refusing to pour his sperm in his late brother's wife. Is that not clear contradiction and hypocrisy?

MaxInDHouse:
It does!

If you're asked to use what you experienced in life to teach your child will you go into academics or what the child needed to start his own carrier in life?
It's only when you want your child to practice your profession that you must teach him what has to do with your profession but if not then all the child needs from you is fatherly care.
That's what the Bible is all about it's not a SCIENCE TEXTBOOK!

"the bible is not a science book" obviously yes, so it shouldn't pretend to be one by telling us how things came about, when much of what it has told us has been proven to be outrightly false. From the creation story of Genesis, to the flood and the exit of the Israelites out of Egypt amongst many others. It should also not pretend to be a historical book when much of what it says happened and how it happened either never happened or didn't happen how it says and that's a fact no matter how much u try to spin it.

DaddyCoool:
EXACTLY, child. The inconsistencies in the Bible are exactly what prove it's authenticity. If it were concocted by some guy (or by Rome as some idiotically claim) it would be perfect. Everything would agree perfectly. But because it was inspired by God but indeed written down by fallible humans, it has inconsistencies.
Any more questions little one?

wtf😅

Thought God wasn't an author of confusion. He must love the chaos with you guys arguing over whose interpretation is right across 40,000+ denominations and more than 2 religions. Perfect.

MindHacker9009:
That's because Jesus christ is a Roman empire invention to control the minds of people in the nations they have conquered.

This is a false notion that gets repeated often and its tiring. Its basically consensus that there was a historical Jesus. Can you adeaquately prove your claim from reputable sources? Obviously no, i'ld be surprised if you managed that. And when u say God of the torah, what torah?

Odingo1:
It is not permitted in Christian Bible to marry your Uncle daughter which is marrying your father brother daughter and also marrying your stepdaughter is prohibited, that goes along with our cultural traditions. In our tradition if you do that you will be ostracised from community because you have desecrated our land in committing abomination.

I don't know if this is plain ignorance or hypocrisy. Who did Abraham marry? Who did Abraham's brother marry? who did Jacob marry? Who did Esau marry? who did Isaac marry? Who did Adam's other children marry? Who did Cain marry,? Who did Noah's grand children marry? Who did Moses' father marry? Who did Judah marry? Was the world not populated and repopulated through incest according to your bible? So what are you saying.

StillDtruth:
I am sure even you can see that you speak like a mad Satan.

Go suck on your mother's saggy tit, old fool.

Maybe because YHVH was a psychopathic genocidal maniac that had to satisfy his thirst for blood one more time so he couldn't just forgive outright, he had to kill or 'sacrifice' himself to himself to appease himself for rules and circumstances orchestrated by himself. Funny thing is Jesus outrightly forgave people before his death but still had to die for everyone to be forgiven. Hmm! What a clusterfuck of absolute horse shit just like the torah as well.

Odingo1:
This is a serious reason my people cannot be Muslims because this is an act of committing abomination in my tradition and are regarded as incest.

Yeah but they can be christains where exactly the same thing happens🙄

MaxInDHouse:
That will be tantamount to diversion!

The Author has a purpose for which the Bible was written it has little to do with science, economy, commerce, geography, mathematics and other subject matters.
So little is mentioned about all these but when it comes to the main theme of the Bible it carries all from the beginning until now:
GOVERNMENT

How did humans get here?
Why do innocent people suffer?
Why wars when everyone want peace?
What happens to us when we die?
What will happen to our planet in the future?
How can we cope with life's anxieties?
What about our love life?
How can we raise well meaning children?
How do we live peacefully with neighbors?
Why is human government cruel?
Who is behind human government?

The Author of the Bible claims He is God who created all things so as the SUPREME BEING it's peace and security that matters most to him but as for other subjects He has given us the privilege to figure out all of that when He said:

“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

Humans will forever continue to discover more and more things as long as we live! Ecclesiastes 3:11

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And how does this address anything.

paxonel:
Of what significance is the existence of planets outer space to the gospel of eternal life?

In all it relevance, scriptural idea states that Adam and Eve sinned and death came to man. But Christ resurrected to restore eternal life back to man.

How does the existence of planets come in here?

Its obvious you just read the headline and not the write up , quite typical.

FxMasterz:
You think I'll read all these useless texts from an empty head? I have better things to do with my time!

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FxMasterz:
You slowpoke!

Your parents are already tired of trying to help your empty head. Your low IQ must have been an embarrassment to your family. And you're not even ashamed. SMH.

How ironic.
What happens during show and tell day in ur kids schools? When they ask you what you do, do you tell them you're an IT specialist😏. What do you tell them your job revolves around? I'm sure the kids and their mom won't even let you know about it, so you don't disgrace em like you doing here, having been a fool at 40 and all, since it's foolishness for life. How sad 🥺. My spells must certainly be working then for your christ like virtues to have disappeared into thin air and devolved into slinging with an 'atheist'. What would Jesus do?! Damn, last i checked you were even a pastor in winners, couldn't even practice what you so hardly defend. As hypocritical, daft and useless as your specialist skills. Get your act together before the kids drop you from the pedestal they put you on. That's if their mom doesn't leave you first, you know she's thinking about it having to deal with an oaf, day in day out. I'ld like to hear you preach Jesus from that mouth 🤣 Agbaya.

MindHacker9009:
The good characters of the invented Jesus christ was actually copied from the Original Torah to make it look like God Almighty of the Original Torah is now a good guy born of a virgin in the invented New Testament.

I don't see what that has to do with the torah and the claim you made.

FxMasterz:
You're a blockhead. Do I even need to clarify myself to an empty head like yours?

There was a mention to which I supplied two responses - two responses for the same mention. I already know they you've sacrificed your brains to Satan, so there's nothing inside it other than sand.

Two responses were given to the same mention. AI was used to fine-tune one, while the other was not fine-tuned.

How can any sane person not see that, and then report mischievously that I used AI? Is that not extreme stupidity?

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Ur kids would be embarrassed to call you their father outside. What a clown. Goes down swinging and swimming in his own shit. Absolutely no shame. Clown indeed.

FxMasterz:
Of course you are. Without understanding my context, you can't jump into conclusions!

Now let me show you why you're a mor.on, i even gave you analogies, didn't even know you were that dumb not to even get it. You're an expert in mental gymnastics so I'd like to see how u'd spin this one. How can you say you didn't use a prompt when a prompt is the text input or query you gave the AI model to elicit a response. What kind of daft IT specialist makes such a basic mess up and insists on it. Nah... Who even calls themselves an 'IT Specialist'. Typical theist, loud and empty, no suprise you don't know how stupid it sounds to say you defeated AI and i'm sure as fvck your comprehension skills are terrible with the posts to support your claim. Go sit in the corner abeg, you are not it.

KnownUnknown:
You can see that these chatbots are just regurgitating the Eurocentric nonsense they been trained on with monsensical colonialist phrases like “the Middle East”, “near Eastern”, “far eastern” and the absurdity of equating the Hebrews with the Mesopotamians and Egyptians.

It's something else man. That's what I'm trying to drill into this numb skull why he can't use it as proof.

KnownUnknown:
His delusional mind.

Obviously. I'm awaiting his response, won't be surprised by some amazing mental gymnastics.

MindHacker9009:
Then many of your moral believes are from the fake Torah and not from the Original Torah.

And what distinguishes both?

FxMasterz:
What a blockhead!

This is fun. The fvcking irony. Can you in short clear n concise terms say why i'm the blockhead and not you sir?;🥺

FxMasterz:
That statement is absolutely correct. I didn't use prompt in my debate.

He said it again 🤣🤣🤣🤣

What a mor.on!! He still doesn't get it. I didn't drink Fanta, i only drank Soda..🤡🤡🤡

FxMasterz:
I think you must be daft to even think I don't know what a prompt is. Lol. It's your audacity for me! So, you're the one to teach me what a prompt is even when I know what Prompt Engineering is. Perhaps you've never even heard of prompt engineering before. You arrogant little brat.

So, you use AI everyday even for writing and coding but cry foul and disparage AI because I used it here for one of my posts. Can't you see how pathetic you are? Your hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens.

You better tell the world that you asked the AI to reoeat what you've fed into it before it spewed that nonsense you claimed as contradictory. Someone who cannot draft a single grammatically sound post is trying to call herself somebody. Your low IQ is something your parents must have been worrying about. There's no single intelligence in any of your writings so far. You reason like a cock and yet consider yourself an intelligent kid. SMH. By my antecedents, both in Academia and outside of it, I'm not your equal. You can only brag and curse because that's all you know to do.

I have brought you evidence of ancient scientific belief that the world was flat - from Wikipedia and Britannica. What the world knew in those days was the product of the science of those days. They held on to that belief until empirical evidence disproved it. Before these times, as far as the days of Job, the Bible already confirmed that the earth was spherical.

Cosmology is a branch of science. And according to ancient cosmology, especially the near eastern cosmology, the earth was flat. This remained undisputed until Pythagoras, a Greek philosopher developed an hypothesis to disprove the notion in the 6th century BC.

You lying stinking brat, I never asked StillDtruth to help me out in any debate. Can you show the proof? Can you also prove that I ran away from that debate? You filthy thing!

I only enlisted StillDtruth to help me spot broken rules in the opponent's argument. Stinking brat said I asked him to help me out in a debate. And that was because he himself alerted me to the fact that the opponent was not a fair debater. Prove otherwise, you stinking blockhead.

Can you now also prove that I ran away from the said debate? I have been replying all mentions on the debate till the last mention yesternight. As for the fellow whom you said I ran away from, I was the one who mentioned her last, and up till today she has not replied since many days ago. So, who ran away? You useless, lying demon and damned little witch.

Is this you bruhh?!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
With ur Antecedents in Academia... i can see that 🤡
See who i dey even follow argue... Did you even read what you cited or are you too daft to see it. A fool at 40, man...

I too live strictly by the ten commandments as well as the other commandments and examples in the torah.

I don't own slaves from my tribe only from other tribes

I beat my slaves to the point of near death but not to death, so i don't offend YHVH.

I don't cut my beards or mix different materials or eat whatever god forbids like pork and shellfish

I don't kill or commit murder except when god tells me to kill some of my neighbors including their wives children and pets.

If i have a male visitor and people want to rape him , i offer up the females around instead.

If a woman is not a virgin on her wedding night amongst our congregation or if she's raped and doesn't scream, i make sure to be amongst those who stone them to death.

If any pastor gives a prophecy that doesn't come to pass, i also make sure to be amonsgt those that stone him to death.

Anyone that breaks the sabbath i participate in stoning them to death. I particularly enjoy stoning people to death as the bible commands.

I make sure that i drive away anyone that has a blemish from church as an usher. Those that are blind or lame or that have a flat nose Or brokenfoot or brokenhand Or crookbackt, or a dwarf.

These and many more are my exemplary moral code.

FxMasterz:
smiling.

All the bolded above are your grammatical errors. I don't point out people's errors but you're justo proud. You need to be shown your level. As empty as you are, you shamelessly boast against people who are have very much advanced beyond you. What do you make of yourself by the way? You have not displayed any iota of intelligence since the very first day of my interactions with you. I know you're a witch but a very dense witch for that matter. You have PhD in Vulgarity and empty-headedness. Yet, you think you know better than anyone. Please go back to school and help yourself to some knowledge.

I write in very simple English and use the most comprehensive forms of communication because I want all my readers to grasp my messages. I'm not here to compete with anyone for intelligence or knowledge. I'm here to pass clear, concise and comprehensive messages only.

Now, let me educate you and tell you why AI is not nonsense. Infact, AI is not your mate. AI has the ability to conduct research, draw inferences and reach logical conclusions. It's capabilities are far higher than humans'. An AI can write a well researched and complete Ph.D thesis for you even in subjects like mathematics and finish the whole thing in hours. Lol, very ignorant kid. It is far more knowledgeable than any professor out there. If AI says you're not correct, then you're really not correct. Let that sink!

When we say AI, we mean Artificial Intelligence, I know you already know that. But you seem to think that AI produces whatever you prompt it to produce. While that is true to a certain degree, it is not everything you prompt AI to do that it will do. Sometimes it would reject you outright. But, that's not where I am going. I want you to understand that AI is highly intelligent and knowledgeable! You don't even come close.

There are now AI doctors that perform super accurate diagnosis and do better treatments than the best human doctors. The hospitals of the future are AI hospitals. AI is going to take over almost everything. Why? Because it is far more knowledgeable and accurate. An AI is fed with the entire body of knowledge human beings have acquired from ancient past till present. They're by far more intelligent and more knowledgeable than Lucifyre. AI is not your mate baby. That's why AI has been the only one to give me the toughest counterarguments so far regarding the debate of Creationism. Humans don't even come close. All atheists have done so far is to beat around the bush without addressing the real issue. I have to remind them again and again that they're not addressing my points. For now, no atheist have been able to offer any sound rebuttal. They majority of them have avoided the thread like a plague. Not even Lucyfyre could make any intelligent attempt. All what she does on the thread is to curse, curse and curse because she's angry at the fact that atheism is being defeated. A witch will support atheism anyway. Are they not all the preys of her master? She has nothing inside her brains other than curses, yet she wants to disparage AI that is a million times more intelligent and more knowledgeable that her. Isn't that laughable? SMH. If you want to ridicule AI, you should at least show us that you have more upstairs than the AI does!

In spite of the caveat, AI is now being heavily used in research. In the future, AI would be the main Researchers. Not humans. Yes, AI can give wrong answers sometimes, but not in the matters of science and history! These days, people are even using AI to pass exams. I mean any examination whatsoever. AI is not your mate dear.

Science once thought that the earth was flat. The elephants are not the point. That's true also but that earth was flat was what science once thought, is true and have been confirmed by AI. This is common historical fact you'll find in any elementary science textbook. Go and sit down! You can't learn about the history of science without coming across this fact. Shame on you if you don't know this.

There's no one on Nairaland who disparages AI except this ignorant kid. Christians and Atheists have used AI to settle arguments among themselves several times on this platform. You ignorant kid should get yourself educated and stop thinking that the world is still running on analogue.

I spot errors in your writings all the time but I never berate you for them. Very senseless errors I mean, like some of the ones I bolded up there. Learn respectful conversations kid. It's more honorable.

Pls keep quiet lousy oaf, creating daft strawman arguments to tangent away from the main point. Ur lame switcheroo gimmicks would only work for those as obtuse as you. Like i told you earlier, you're not as educated as you think you are and what little education you think you got, yeilded very negligible results. Not only are you dense and a coward but also a massive hypocrite who cries foul when the same energy he gave is matched in return. It's not you i feel pity for, its the little ones who'd have to look up to your sorry ass excuse of a person as a role model, especially cause they have no choice in the matter.

Quit the lecturing bullcrap, everyone knows what AI is and its benefits, i basically use it every day at my job as do most, from writing to coding to designing to modelling. So to get lectured by someone who up until a few days ago when he got schooled, didn't even know what a prompt was is hilariously hilarious. That's the lamest attempt at a switcheroo I've witnessed. The issue was never AI but using it as a source/proof especially with its caveat as i've shown repeatedly(with the screenshots) but keeps flying over your empty head like air.

Let me educate ur myopic ass a little. If i make the claim that the church propagated geocentricism over heliocentrism and i'm asked for a reputable source as proof. I don't bring an AI chat or random youtube video or some sketchy site from some random google search or say its basically in every science textbook out there like some retards i know do. I simply drop something like this for them to check out:
When Science and Christianity Meet by David C. Lindberg,
Galileo and the Conflict between Religion and Science by Gregory W. Dawes. Simple! it could be a book, a journal, an article by a respected historian, scholar or scientist.

If you still can't get the gist then you're even more of a buffoon than i thought and that's not an insult. The AI you stupidly cited as your source gave me the opposite response to the same prompt which i attached in my screenshot and u want to use that as proof. Lol! Keep quiet and cite reputable sources since it's so common, and back up ur daft claims or go sit in the corner, sulk and drool like the retarded cunt you were birthed to be. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house, hypocrite. Civil conversation my ass. Don't expect any better from someone who defers to a thing as dumb as truthspeaker stiildfool, to help him out in a debate he ended up running from like a coward.

FxMasterz:
Chai!

It's like asking for a proof that human beings have eyes. Don't tell me you're this ignorant. Who on earth doesn't know that science once believed that the earth was flat. Go and ask your AI and stop disturbing me with unnecessary noise.

Yes now, atheists, including you have not been able to offer any sound argument against my position.

Oh my look whose calling someone ignorant, the so called IT specialist that doesn't know what a prompt is, "the defeater of AI", oh least i forget, slayer of atheists, you bro are the epitome of ignorant and irony. One just needs to go through and peruse your comment history to observe for themselves. Knew you were dense right off the bat from my first discussion with you way bk, but i tried to be courteous and simply said "now i understand your level", but u obviously don't deserve any courtesy. You really made me grasp the word dim witted properly, its almost like you are being purposefully obtuse.

According to your moronic analogy, common sense says when someone asks for proof of eyes you point them to the eyes. First of all science doesnt do "belief" that's for religion. I asked for a reputable source for the claim that science proposed the earth was flat and was propped up on four elephants, a daft claim by the way, even a mediocre primary school student wont make, and you gave me an AI response as your reputable source. Lol! You seem to never learn. Same AI that i already told and showed to you, has a caveat of sometimes giving inaccurate info and is also malleable cause its unconfrontational especially around topics of religion and politics. That's the source you could find. See attached screenshot.

And that's not even taking into consideration part of your m.o of side stepping. Even in the source you gave i have to ask in Cersei Lannister's voice "Where are the elephants?" You left that part out just like went on a tangent and side stepped from the contradiction discourse above when you couldn't give a rebuttal. I'll need a more reputable source for the claim you made not one that says contradictory and incorrect info. Also im still waiting for your rebuttal on God changing his mind contradiction which you conveniently side stepped.

You're a joke of a person and a coward. You make me really understand that age is truly nothing but a number. It's no surprise those who identify as atheists here wipe the floor with you theists especially the christains and how many times would i sink it in your limited brain, i'm not an atheist.

KnownUnknown:
The creators of gods have only their own base of knowledge to build from. The people who created that particular god did not know about planets or any other astronomical objects so their god did not “create” them. Compare the ancient lore of the abrahamic religions to the modern lore of Scientology. Because of the relatively expansive knowledge base of the creator of its lore, Scientology includes mention of intergalactic events, aeronautics, hydrogen bombs, and volcanoes.

In short, gods only know what their creators know.

Agreed. Particularly like the last sentence "gods only know what their creators know"... ...and their creators due to lack of knowledge act and take the place of the creation.