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hopefulLandlord:
I'll just leave a link

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-versions-and-translations/absent-from-codex-sinaiticus-oldest-new-testament/

No be me and you. If you're sure of yourself put it here and let's start analyzing.

hopefulLandlord:
we've been through this before and you ran away when I told you the bible as we have it today is very different from the first bible; lots of additions, subtractions, juxtapositions compared to the first bible and your bibles today still has MANY VERSIONS

And I remember telling you to name any two version which you did and we found no difference in meaning.

adepeter26:
Buhahahahahahaha
Dis one you responded in Yoruba, are you one of us

Are you a believer? Do you believe in Jesus?

Shey you see Seun is giving you guys an hedge. No wahala we have a God who has never lost a war.

OP wonderful thread.

refiner:

In Romans 9 vs 16...so then it is not of him that willeth,nor of him that runneth,but of God that sheweth mercy.

In addition to what the OP have said, Daniel 4:17 says

This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the lowest of men.

Is Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory

That's the definition of God's mercy. He makes the unqualified qualified. He makes the unfitted fitted to the role that's beyond their capabilities.

Joseph, David, Daniel, Saul etc are all example of God's mercy.

So that refiner and his cohorts in crime should continue applying worldly wisdom to God's words.

Orisirisi... .. . Seun how did the OP got to his conclusion? No link. No data. Nothing.

God pass you o.

Wikipedia as a source. It's alright.

The science community all over the world has largely debunked the idea of Intelligent Design based largely on the fact that they don't have a demonstrable hypothesis despite the fact that the leaders of Intelligent Design movement are scientists.

They can never have a demonstrable hypothesis. It's beyond their reason. It's beyond their capability. It's beyond their resources.

Funnily enough they can't prove otherwise because the answers is beyond them.

hahn:
So says she who is organized and constitutionalized into over 30,000 denominations who never agree with each other

Jehovah is truly the god of confusion

The least denomination in christianity is still more organized than you all. And we all have the same Constitution which is the Bible.

adepeter26:
You read what hopefullandlord typed àbí?
See, let's reason ourselves out naw. Haven't you been getting my drifts lately

What foolish drifts. What part does a believer has with an unbeliever? Go and sit down and let me see road.

hopefulLandlord:
exactly the problem

I'm not talking atheism here

you'll vote for people that will promote your interest, Muslim does the same; don't you see a problem here? Saudi Arabia in the making

BTW no one is telling you not to vote as you damn please, don't pull red herrings here

we are talking "inserting" your belief into it cuz logic states you need to prove you're worshipping the correct god, you're worshipping that god in the correct way without being biased

what we have however is that a Muslim and a Christian cannot agree on this and a the reason is simple, they both have "faith" they're right and the other is wrong, that leads nowhere I'm afraid

but on the flip side, if we assume both can be wrong and any of them can be right, we try to look at things in a pragmatic way (not atheism)

we would study the effect of religious noise pollution on the population eg sleep deprivation, environmental issues that lead to even more severe problems; study effect of underage marriage and "pedophilia" (I put it in quotes cuz having sex with a 12 year old is not pedophila in certain states); then a solution can be reached devoid of bias and doctrine but there's no logical way of ascertaining the validity or falsifiability of claims about "my God told me this is the right way"


as for me however, I would not automatically try to vote for an atheist just because he's one

Nothing is in making. Welcome to the world of politics where majority will have their way and minority will their say.

adepeter26:
BP go soon hammer you

After it finished hammering you.

hopefulLandlord:
No! but they are inserting it gradually, you'll be delusional or extremely poor not to see how religion is influencing the constitution OR makes enforcement of laws impossible

age of consent is 18 but not only do we have underage sex; we have "marriages" (marriage means you can have sex anytime with the girl) to people below that age happening, that's just one example; we don't have age of marriage cuz it would be against Islam, so Muslims just marry 12 year olds and have sex with them

there are laws against noise pollution by speakers but if you go and report a church or mosque who violates that law, nothing would be done BECAUSE the person you're reporting to most likely attends a church or mosque that's guilty of the same misdemeanor

That's why as an Atheist, elect people that will promote your interest. That's politics. That's what happened in every country. People vote based on their interest.

You don't have the right as an Atheist to tell me not to vote based on who will protect my interest. Your right stop where mine begin.

ACKCITY:
First, Cain did not tithe but gave an “offering” unto the Lord of the fruit of the ground and a faithless one at that (Gen 4:3, Heb 11:4)

Second, Abram (Abraham) gave a tenth of the spoils of the war one time as was the custom at that time (Gen 14; He 7). Abram did so voluntarily, as a tribute to the high priest and king of Salem. There is no mention in the Bible that Abram tithed anywhere else in the scriptures.

Read more >>http://citofgod..com.ng/2017/04/false-teaching-about-tithing-part-three.html

How many part does the thread have? Anyway during the time of Abraham, was there a temple? Was there a priest?

Can you see how ignorant your thread is?

I write this to you because you are definitely more intelligent than most who post topics, you would definitely know those posts are really unkind, unfair, unsubstantiated, and outrightly malicious.

You are directing your plead to the chief enabler. Seun is the number 1 culprit of all what you listed.

If the head is rotten can the body be whole?

An2elect2:
Have you no faith! Have you got a heart full of hatred for God! Have you no rest. Have you no love for us who have believed!

May God help your helplessness and unbelief.

Don't mind them. They are worst than the Muslims. They are so intolerant.

Are we running under a Christian or muslim Constitution?

hopefulLandlord:
it seems you're not thinking straight

how can progress be made when Muslims are trying to insert their god into politics, Christians try to do the same and Pagans also don't want to be left out?

this would lead nowhere but chaos, war, battles, disagreements, vendetta and before you know it someone like closet Shekau (I said like) becomes president, appoints his fellow book haram as cabinet, wields power over everything and suddenly you can't criticise Islam and have your head on your neck

on the flip side, if we ignore god ideas (this is not a debate on the existence) when it comes to politics, follow evidence and try to look at things in a pragmatic and less biased way, progress is definitely going to be made

the person you quoted doesn't need to "insert" his belief in no gods into politics, its the religious that need to cuz politics in a secular nation already isn't subject to any god; inserting god only leads to Theocracy

And in what way are they doing it now? Are we not running under the Nigerian Constitution?

They can't o. It's the only reason for their existence. They don’t have any other things going for them. If you remove criticism of the existence of God, Atheism is dead.

They don't have principles. They don't have Constitution. They don't think of any other things. Their existence is based on Christianity. They're are leeches.

Organized and unconstitutional group of individuals again.

Another ignorant thread. Another wanna be applying worldly wisdom into God's words.

ps...I have no problem whatsoever with people who still use the word 'God'...as long as they don't insert it into modern politics that effect all of us. We are all learning and growing

Ps.......your right stop where my right begins. Who the heck are you to tell me not to insert my belief into politics? But you can insert your belief in no God into politics while I can't. The OP must have something wrong with his brain.

adepeter26:
Lol, he's not an atheist Bae....

BTW, Atheism isn't about crime and am yet to meet an Atheist with bad history online.

But I fit list Una partners wey be defrauders

I never said he's an Atheist but you're indeed birds of the same feather.

hopefulLandlord:
not every intelligent person is an atheist

although, you'll be right most of the time if you assume they are

By their fruit we shall know them. A so called Christian who insulted the whole faith because of a few bag eggs is not a true Christian.

adepeter26:
Bae, you done forget say you done use this phrase on me like two to three times on different thread(s)

That was my first time of using garbage in garbage out. Prove me wrong.

tosyne2much:
I posted out how Christianity has enveloped the reasoning faculty of some people and you're asking me when last I read my Bible.. What has reading my Bible got to do with this for Christ's sake? So being a realist has turned me to an atheist right?

I repeat again, let me leave you to wallow in your mental bankruptcy

In other words you've never read a Bible. Have many churches have you been to? Mention the churches that are guilty of your so called crime?

adepeter26:

Ewwww
Na my one and only NL CRUSH you finish like this tosyne2much? Kò dáa óò.....

Hehehe! Wetin e finish? You're just deceiving your friend in crime o.

adepeter26:
Na only this phrase you Sabi sweetheart?
Learn something new naw.

BTW, nobody does GIGO more than you Christians. Una GIGO get no bound sef

Go and sit down. This is my first time of using it.

How many churches have you been to tosyne2much before opening this thread? Have you ever picked a Bible to read?

tosyne2much:
The stench of your ignorance knows no bound.. Kindly point to be fallacious generalization in the write-up abeg

All your points. Go church, you will refuse to go to church. You will sit down in one corner and start making conclusion from what you read in the news.

Read Bible.. ... . You will refuse. Garbage in garbage out.

proudafrogal:
one fanatic spotted are you one of the pastor worshipers he is talking about or one of those that accuse their children of witchcraft and abandon them?

if a Muslim wrote an article against extremist s criticising them and another Muslim writers a comment saying he is imposing worldly views on Islam or innovating what will you think of that Muslim?

Foolish questions.

The stench of ignorance of the OP. Firstly, he committed the fallacy of generalisation. Secondly he wants to impose his worldly view on Christianity. 3rdly he outrighly lied that Christianity is losing his values.

Well OP, e don Tay where people don dey predict the demise of Christianity. You know why? Because true Christians knows that all these are detractors to take us away from God. We know that all of us must remain unshaken for the race that's set before us. For it's only those that serve him to the end that will be save.

The truth of the matter is we are not yet serving God the way we should. If you are, you won't mind selling everything you have just to make God's house alright.
2nd Samuel 24:24 King David says when he wants build an altar to God

But the king said to Araunah, “No! I must pay you for everything. I will not offer burnt offerings to the Lord my God that cost me nothing

That's a man that knows his God.

In the early church Act 4:34-35

34 Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35 and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.

If you have not gotten to the stage where you sells your landed property and bring the proceeds to the house of God, please let us have peace.

Ordinary 10% of what God gave to you, you're wailing everywhere. Please hold your money.

What about men that have children by different of women.

The way so called men of God criticize and judges women and fail to apply the same principle to men is troubling and I know that's one of the reasons God is raising women ministers in these last days.

Jesus is pro-women. He defended a prostitute. He defended the maltreatreated wives. Jesus loves women and never judges us.