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saintmark88:
So is Jesus God??

Yes! do you have any contrary opinion?

Bring it forth.

Ferisidowu:
Genesis 6:2

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair,.

... Or "good" k, not in a moral but natural sense; goodly to look upon, of a beautiful aspect; and they looked upon, and only regarded their external beauty, and lusted after them: those "sons of God" were not angels either good or bad, as many have thought, since they are incorporeal beings, and cannot be affected with fleshly lusts, or marry and be given in marriage, or generate and be generated; nor the sons of judges, magistrates, and great personages, nor they themselves, as the Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan, and so Jarchi and Aben Ezra; but this could be no crime in them, to look upon and take in marriage such persons, though they were the daughters of the meaner sort; and supposing they acted a criminal part in looking at them, and lusting after them, and committing fornication with them, and even in marrying irreligious persons; yet this could only be a partial, not an universal corruption, as is after affirmed, though such examples must indeed have great influence upon the populace; but rather this is to be understood of the posterity of Seth, who from the times of Enos, when then [s]began to be called by the name of the Lord[/s], Ge 4:25 had the title of the sons of God, in distinction from the children of men; these claimed the privilege of divine adoption, and professed to be born of God, and partakers of his grace, and pretended to worship him according to his will, so far as revealed to them, and to fear and serve and glorify him. According to the Arabic writers l, immediately after the death of Adam the family of Seth was separated from the family of Cain; Seth took his sons and their wives to a high mountain (Hermon), on the top of which Adam was buried, and Cain and all his sons lived in the valley beneath, where Abel was slain; and they on the mountain obtained a name for holiness and purity, and were so near the angels that they could hear their voices and join their hymns with them; and they, their wives and their children, went by the common name of the sons of God: and now these were adjured, by Seth and by succeeding patriarchs, by no means to go down from the mountain and join the Cainites; but notwithstanding in the times of Jared some did go down, it seems; [See comments on Ge 5:20] and after that others, and at this time it became general; and being taken with the beauty of the daughters of Cain and his posterity, they did as follows:


and they took them wives of all that they chose

not by force, as Aben Ezra and Ben Gersom interpret, for the Cainites being more numerous and powerful than they, it can hardly be thought that the one would attempt it, or the other suffer it; but they intermarried with them, which the Cainites might not be averse unto; they took to them wives as they fancied, which were pleasing to the flesh, without regard to their moral and civil character, and without the advice and consent of their parents, and without consulting God and his will in the matter; or they took women as they pleased, and were to their liking, and committed fornication, to which the Cainites were addicted; for they spent their time in singing and dancing, and in uncleanness, whereby the posterity of Seth or sons of God were allured to come down and join them, and commit fornication with them, as the Arabic writers m relate.

Here is the correct statement Gen 4:26

"And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD."

Not called by the name of God.

The Sons of God in that verse were Watchers (Angels). The book of Enoch elaborated more better on this.

Enoch ones pleaded on their behalf as well. Jude and Peter mentioned this angels as being bound and locked away in chains.

I prefer tzedaka (arms giving) to tithing

Jacksonville:
And then? Does this dispute the fact that Jesus is the word of God which turns out to be God? Does this imply that Jesus is God or not?

We all know that the revelation was given to Jesus to his servants by God hence the title " The revelation of Jesus" from Revelations1.. This is a revelation of whom Jesus is to his church and of the things to come..

Even God calls Jesus God just as the Holy Spirit is God... I'm sure you've seen psalm 45:6.. It's a title just like God told moses" I've made you a god unto pharaoh and Aaron is your prophet".. But it's beyond that. God the father is Almighty and the son is ...

Quit going back n forth on this... Is Jesus God? If no what do you say about John1:1...

What made me quote you the first time was the wrong use of the phrase "God the son" instead of "Son of God" and I belief you have come to understand the difference between the two and their implication.

God is a title yes of course. Anyone can assume the title but we all know that there is but one true God. Due. 6:4 just one, not 3

Apart from this I do not argue that Jesus is not God.

But also Almighty and mighty God has been used for God the father and Christ the Son.

This does not put them both on equal table of authority. God will always be the father and God to Jesus Christ the son. (God remains overall)

harbjar:
Basically what you have just is there are two Gods.... Jesus and his father(God)
I thought christainity was meant to be a monotheistic religion...

Yes! If that is Your understanding I will roll with it. but God the Father is God over the Son and all there is in the universe. He is Almighty God. The one and only true God (one of a kind)...just ONE!

lovingJehovah:
In Matthew 19:5 Jesus made a similar comment about a man becoming on with his wife and you don't need anybody to explain that verse to you either. In 1 Corinthians 11:3 we also read that the man is the head of the woman. Do those verses have conflicting meaning? No! It is very clear that a man and a woman becomes one after marriage. They now have a union and they have a single goal unitedly. That does not make them coequal. That does not make the woman a man or the man a woman.

In John 14:8-9 Jesus never claimed to be the father, he says whoever sees me has seen the father also. Recall that the Bible says that no man can see God and continue living. Did the people who see Jesus die? No! They kept on living. If you proceed to the eleventh verse he says that the father is in him and he is also in the father. John 17:21 says that we should also be in the father. Does it then mean that we are God's coequal? No!
Matthew 25:40 Jesus said that if you do it to the least of these that you do it for me him. But come to think of it, did you literally do it for Jesus? No! But, the purpose of which you did it reflects on his attributes and he is pleased with it and will reward you himself.
If he were God almighty or coequal, he would not waste a minute to tell it.
But he is the son of God and not God the son

Good one!

Jacksonville:
God is a title.. The sooner you get to understand this, the better for you. If you had eyes you would see from my post that Im not disputing that he is the son of God, He is. John 1:1 says he is God... Jesus says he isn't greater than his father, but they are one... In essence he is God the son...

John14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would
rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for
my Father is greater than I .

The father is greater than the son, because you don't expect Jesus in flesh being in form of a man to proclaim himself equal with God when his mission was to draw men to God... in spirit they are one(John10:30) and that is God..

He said he will draw men to himself (God) when he is liftedfrom earth .. John13:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

It was after his death and ressurection he revealed his identity .. Says "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Rev1:8

God the son implies that God the father is God the son which is a wrong phrase to use.

God the father and the son of God are one in spirit..but Jesus made it crystal clear through out the Bible that he has a father and a God greater than him both in heaven and on earth.

You concluded too early by quoting Rev.1:8. Well let's start from verse 1 to get the real picture here.

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Take note of the bold in verse 1. God gave the Revelation to Jesus the Son, whom Jesus in turn gave to the Angel to give to his servant John

Now don't get confused by the ending footnote in verse 8. that says "the Almighty" this Revelation comes from God Almighty himself to the Son to the Angel and to John.

The father is always pleased to reveal and show his will to the Son and his will is what the son does and they are in agreement (one).

Jacksonville:
He is God the son.. Otherwise why would God call his son God?
The Hebrew author quotes from psalm 45 in the 8th n 9th verses of Hebrews 1...
Hebrews 1:6-9
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

[7] And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

[8] But unto the Son he saith , Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

[9] Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10.And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Verse 8 ,God says to Jesus,"God your throne is forever....Your righteousness is a proof and staff of authority that you own it." Verse 9 is even clearer... God says to his son "God, even me your God has anointed you with oil...

verse 10 confirms John1:1 ND Isaiah 44:24. it says, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, "I, the Lord, am the maker of all things,Stretching out the heavens by Myself, And spreading out the earth All ALONE." ...

Jesus is called 'LORD' who laid the foundations of the earth and the heavens.... In essence, he created the world n the universe... The "all alone" points out the singleness of God as spirit I.e God is one...

Jesus is God the son, but is one in spirit with the father...

There is no phrase like God the son

The better and correct phrase should be Son of God

[quote author=harbjar post=62104699][/quote]OK let me help you out here..

God = the Father
Jesus Christ = Son of God

God sent Jesus the Son to die on the cross for you and i.

You asked if Jesus is God?
Yes! A Son of God is God as well (authority might differ) but they are both God.

Who did Jesus prayed to while on earth?
Jesus prayed to God his father

Jesus said the Father is greater than I..
Yes! The Father is greater than Jesus Christ because he is the almighty God who put all authority under His son (Jesus Christ).

I came to learn the meaning of those words and names OP asked. Waiting...

ikp120:
OP are you gay or transgender?

Focus on the post not the poster, Mumu

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1.Lips

Lips are the first thing we women notice in a man. And when they have soft and full lips it’s a cherry on the cake. After all, it means there’s a lot more to the kiss.

2.Veiny Forearms

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3.When They Cook

Good food is an aphrodisiac, so a man who can cook will turn on a woman in more ways than one

4.Shyness

We, women, love when a man is a bit shy around us. Confidence is considered sexy but a little shyness is also attractive.

5.When They’re Sweaty

A man sweating isn’t always hot. But when it is, it’s super sexy. Remember when Mario Lopez had to change his shirt at the Emmys?

6.His Scent

We all love to smell good but women absolutely love their man’s natural scent mixed with his good smelling cologne. Maybe this is the reason we love to wear our man’s shirt so we can smell them all day long.

7.He Loves Animals

Taking care of animals means a lot of work. You need to take care of them and when you own one, it’s a plus point.

8.Nice Socks

It sounds a bit irrelevant, but a nice pair of socks can go a long way. It’s aesthetically pleasing and is a small sign that he cares.


9.Beard

Most women like men who are clean shaved but there’s something about unkept facial hair that makes them look hotter. Perhaps it’s the “too tired to care” attitude that comes along with it.

10.Thick Eyebrows

Nice thick eyebrows are a great turn on for women. It does a good job at showing off the eyes.

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Scars make men appear more badass and mysterious at the same time. It makes a man look more masculine, rugged, exciting, and hot.

12.Glasses

We always thought that glasses makes us look nerdy and ugly but as adults, we realize it actually makes guys look sexy

13.Jealousy

A little bit of jealousy and possessiveness can be a turn on. Remember, only a little!

14.Blushing

When guys blush after a hug or a kiss, it comes off super sweet and it’s a great turn on for us women.

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A defined jawline is already incredibly attractive on a guy. But when he clenches his muscles, it is hard to resist and we wouldn’t mind getting them mad just to see that clenched jawline.

Oya! Ladies come and say the number(s) that makes you go gaga!

“My man must be tall, dark, handsome, caring, respectful, God fearing, intelligent, rich, takes me on vacation, brings me breakfast in bed, love me for who i am and will never cheat on me”.

So many ladies are the reason why they don’t have a stable relationship.Ladies expect so many things from guys and when the guys can’t submit to their desires they leave them.

What are things ladies should not expect from guys? What are ladies not suppose to do when they want to date?

Perfection: Is the state of being complete so that nothing requisite is wanted,so many ladies expect the guy they want to date to be perfect while they themselves are not, the fact is we all have flaws, the ability to overlook each other’s mistake is what is called love. So never expect perfection from a guy.

Never be too choosy: So many ladies are so choosy when it comes to dating a guy,they want the guy that is handsome, tall, rich, caring and so many qualities, in a way wanting all these qualities are not bad but when a lady becomes picky that the guy must have all the qualities then you are on your own because sometimes it is not the looks that should you to a guy but the qualities, attitudes and personalities that should attract you to a guy.

Never expect your guy to solve all your problems: In as much as he is your guy he is there to cater for your needs but he is not there to solve all your problems and take care of all your responsibilities.

Instead of expecting him to solve all your problems why not take steps with him in solving issues that you might have.

When you don’t expect your guy to be the perfect and almighty person without flaws then you will be able to stand together and make your relationship stronger.

sonmvayina:
Allah is the arabic name for God, the creator of all..it might be the same God the jews worshipped..Abraham had 2 famous sons..Isaac and Ishmael...the arabs are the decenddantd of Ishmael....

The Allah the Muslims worship is not the Allah we know as Yahweh

mustymatic:
He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Immanent: and He has full knowledge of all things.57:3

The origin of belief goes back before Adam peace be upon him,

And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations on earth." They said: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners) and sanctify You." He (Allah) said: "I know that which you do not know." 2:30

If Yahweh is what (Eesa) Jesus or Musa called his God in Hebrew, then yes, if it is one of the Changes made then I am not sure

Kontinu lying it is sweeting my belle

corrupted indeed

frank317:
Off point... At this stage, u rather call on ur so called God... The almighty father, the creator of the universe, the ominipresent and ominipotent, the unchangeable changer, the alpha and the omega , the beginning and the end, the one who rules the whole world, the every every, to come and change Seun's mind.

The only way u can prove ur God is real is to ask ur God to summon ur God to come to ur rescue or forever remain CRY CRY

Another senseless comment

durentchigozie:
plz shutup if u have nothing reasonable to say. A student is dead here. Do u have conscience. Pls tak ur poo to politics section

Lmao!

That was one of my favourite reading spot when I was in 100L.

Too bad!


Rest In Peace fello Futmite

strength in numbers

adjoviomole:
Bfor I ansa u @ OP. Do u bliv in God?

Definitely the OP is confused