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aminusanti:
Son of God, son of David, or son of Man?  Jesus is identified as “son of David” fourteen times in the New Testament, starting with the very first verse (Matthew 1:1).  The Gospel of Luke documents forty-one generations between Jesus and David, while Matthew lists twenty-six.  Jesus, a distant descendant, can only wear the “son of David” title metaphorically.  But how then should we understand the title, “son of God?”

For the sake of argument, let’s agree that he was precisely what he claimed to be.  But what, exactly, was that?  Jesus called himself “Son of Man” frequently, consistently, perhaps even emphatically, but where did he call himself “Son of God?”

Let’s back up.  What does “Son of God” mean in the first place?  No legitimate Christian sect suggests that God took a wife and had a child, and most certainly none conceive that God fathered a child through a human mother outside of marriage.  Furthermore, to suggest that God physically mated with an element of His creation is so far beyond the limits of religious tolerance as to plummet down the sheer cliff of blasphemy, chasing the mythology of the Greeks.

With no rational explanation available within the tenets of Christian doctrine, the only avenue for closure is to claim yet one more doctrinal mystery.  Here is where the Muslim recalls the question posed in the Quran:

“…How can He have a son when He has no consort?...” (Quran 6:101)

…while others shout, “But God can do anything!”  The Islamic position, however, is that God doesn’t do inappropriate things, only Godly things.  In the Islamic viewpoint, God’s character is integral with His being and consistent with His majesty.

So again, what does “Son of God” mean?  And if Jesus Christ has exclusive rights to the term, why does the Bible record, “...for I (God) am a father to Israel, and Ephraim (i.e. Israel) is my firstborn” (Jeremiah 31:9) and, “...Israel is My son, even my firstborn” (Exodus 4:22)?  Taken in the context of Romans 8:14, which reads, “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God,” many scholars conclude that “Son of God” is metaphorical and, as with christos, doesn’t imply exclusivity.  After all, The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion confirms that in Jewish idiom “Son of God” is clearly metaphorical.  To quote, “Son of God, term occasionally found in Jewish literature, biblical and post-biblical, but nowhere implying physical descent from the Godhead.” Hasting’s Bible Dictionary comments:

In Semitic usage “sonship” is a conception somewhat loosely employed to denote moral rather than physical or metaphysical relationship.  Thus “sons of Belial” (Jg 19:22 etc.) are wicked men, not descendants of Belial; and in the NT the “children of the bridechamber” are wedding guests.  So a “son of God” is a man, or even a people, who reflect the character of God.  There is little evidence that the title was used in Jewish circles of the Messiah, and a sonship which implied more than a moral relationship would be contrary to Jewish monotheism.

And in any case, the list of candidates for “son of God” begins with Adam, as per Luke 3:38: “...Adam, which was the son of God.”

Those who rebut by quoting Matthew 3:17 (“And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘This is My beloved son, in whom I am well pleased’”) have overlooked the point that the Bible describes many people, Israel and Adam included, as “sons of God.”  Both II Samuel 7:13-14 and I Chronicles 22:10 read, “He (Solomon) shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.  I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.”

Entire nations are referred to as sons, or children of God.  Examples include:

Genesis 6:2, “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men…”

Genesis 6:4, “There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men…”

Deuteronomy 14:1, “Ye are the children of the Lord your God.”

Job 1:6, “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 2:1, “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 38:7, “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

Philippians 2:15, “that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation…”

1 John 3:1-2, “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! … Beloved, now we are children of God…”

In Matthew 5:9 Jesus says, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.”  Later in Matthew 5:45, Jesus prescribed to his followers the attainment of noble attributes, “that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.”  Not exclusively his Father, but their Father …

Are you done? Nice copy and paste, here is what the writer of that your piece is missing

Philippians 2:5-11

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Pay close attention to the bolded parts. Jesus was the first begotten of the father all things have been handed onto him.

Colossians 1:12-19

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Surely Jesus Christ is one of a kind..
His Sonship can never be over emphasised

aminusanti:
cc. Ahmadgani annunaki2 Clementor Maamin stephenmorris trapQ Smallville10

My fellow Christian Scholars pls is
Jesus God or Son of God??
Pls help out I want to know him more

Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."

Yes! He is the Son of God

Hebrews 1:1-10
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands

Yes! Jesus is Also God

Interesting right?

This lipton taste like Alomo Bitter

u are yet to knw your religion my guy just keep talking until d other christian group hear u saying he not Almighty!
Read this thread and see how your xtians are battling each other for this statement that u made.

I dont care what other christians thinks or the doctrine they consider to be right but i only believe what the bible teaches.

[s]https://www.nairaland.com/908955/jesus-christ-same-god-almighty/8[/s]

nope! two different personalities.

This is what ur bible says pls explain to us d verse below

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

errrrr! can you start reading from verse 1 of that chapter? here

Revelation 1:1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ,[color=#990000]which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

1:2
Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

1:5
And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

1:6
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

did you noticed the bolded and the red lettered words...it implies that God gave the revelation to Christ. so the expression of the verse 8 is an expression of God himself..

"For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." - Isaiah 9:6"

Yes, how about that? REMEMBER I SAID Jesus is a Mighty God Not Almighty..so there is no ambiguity in that verse

BUT IF WE READ BELOW YOU R POSITION

MATT 10
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Yea..this is where you as Muslim should ponder very much on...have you confessed Jesus before men?

Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' ORIGIN was “from early times”?

Yes because Micah unlike the arabian prophet, knows his lord very well.."he was in the beginning with God" (John 1:1)

Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45)

Because the father shows him everything and he judges as he hears and his judgments are true

[s]There are many more of this contradictions in the bible
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none except the one you are seeing through the deceitful spirit your religion has planted in you

My question to u there, is GOD the author of this confusion or Paul?

nope! none of the above but your Arabian prophet

Show me where he says " I am GOD(small or Big) worship me.

Philipians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

2:8
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

2:10
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

2:11
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

i will oblige you in case you need more verses...

OK op first of all Jesus is not God almighty but mighty God . Only Yahweh is God almighty.

You might need to correct your topic in other to begin with..

aminusanti:
* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?
*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.
Internet scholars. Food don ready!
Truthman2012
True2god
annunaki2
Plappville & co

Is Jesus God? YES read (John 1:1-5) also (Hebrews 1:1-10)

Chew on those verses properly please..

They answer your above query

FriendChoice:
Islam is derived from the word salaam meaning peace. Submission to the Will of Allah (swt) i.e. God Almighty.

Meaning of ‘Muslim’ – One who submits his will to Allah. Islam is not a new religion found by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Jesus also submit his will to God

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]

Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. Quran 13:19

All prophet of God are Muslims, the verse say you change Your scripture out of jealous animosity. After the Bible revealed by God has been altered, after Jesus depart, then it's no longer Islam. Islam is pure with no alteration. Jesus depart a Muslim and He shall come back a Muslim.


O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]? O People of the Scripture, why do you confuse the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while you know [it]? Quran 70-71


Hope the above explain that to you.

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists.

Keep lying i'm enjoying it

RottenTomato:
that's how it is everywhere in naija, not just Lagos. Make u no dey drink and smoke before opening threads!

Yes! I forgot to tell your sorry ass that I was in a beer parlour with your father and mother when I was about to open this thread.

Below are kind of single girls that really do exist.

1. Types that do not want to be in a relationship

These are the first sets of single people you meet out there, they never want to hear anything about relationship, and they believe they are done with falling in love and failing again. They see things only in their own perspective, doing their things alone with no relationship disturbance. They are done with relationship and never want to have a partner.

2. Types that do not care about relationship anymore

This type of girls doesn’t care about what anyone thinks, they do whatever they want and they prefer being flirty probably because they have been hurt a lot of time. They never want to commit, so you find them with a new partner every time but when you ask them, they will simply tell you that they don’t care for romance, and letting you realize that seeing someone with them doesn’t mean they are single, they are just in for the one night stand love and the next day you will see them with another person.

3. Types that are eager to be in another relationship

They are referred to as emotionally single people because they are actually not happy being single and when they see their friends going on fine with their relationship they always wish they were the one in love. They always wish they were in a relationship and complains about being single, they always want to get hooked up in another relationship because they cannot handle being single.

4. Types that are over-selective

These are the types you always find selecting and yet they will never find one person because of the way they are selective. They complain about this not good, that not good, they always compare whoever comes next to them with their “ex” which apparently will make them almost single for the rest of their life.

5. Types that are in love with their job.

The “Job lover” are the types girls that are addicted to their work and feel that anything that has to do with relationship is a distraction. They are hooked up with one man and they are too serious to give the person attention and so automatically they are single.

Other six things they crave for other than money are:

1, extra money
2, more money
3, huge amount of money
4, plenty amount of money
5, extravagant amount of money
6, Excessive, gigantic and enormous amount of money

agrovick:
Oshe baddest.

U've entered her land of Canaan abi

nooo

agrovick:
Silicon yansh, mtcheeeww

Silicon yansh kor carbon boobs ni

Tychamps:
Op, wait till she gun you down at war front... Satan will reject you in hell... bet me

I bet you, you won't be going to hell if this beautiful creature kills u..paradise straight!

ctuagent007:
Everyone knows that she did booty. enlargement cos it was reported a yr or 2 yrs ago in entertainment news

Whatever but she is sure sexy as a military personnel

Perfecttouch:
which kin reporter u be? Ordinary her name u can't source it from the net?

Bros...4give me jaré. as I see the kind ASSenal she carry, I no even bother about the name again.

Her name is Lexx Jones

prettythicksme:
She got yam legs and she is fuvking sexy

Her Yam legs are good o, coz she's got a matching ass

These are the type of soldiers I want to nab me at check points and give me frog jump

Synzu:
As long as she sits where I can get a good view of that big mound of black ass, I'll be in that cell longer than Mandela


Unfortunately, she's not a cop.

Lwkmd... @bold

decatalyst:
This is a good motivation to join the army

Who took my jungle boot ke?

If this is what someone will be seeing in the military, why won't I join

Synzu:
I'm guilty!


She should come and arrest me!

Lol..she can lock u up for all u care abi?

She sure kills with something better than guns!

See the hottest and sexiest woman in the US army , so tell me why would anyone be heartless enough to be able to kill this sexy damsel in the war front even if she is about to shoot ya ass.?

shadeyinka:
You just made laughter explode like Bokoharam bomb out of my mouth.

Thanks for the complement.

I just got worried that this kind of education is seldom taught. It is assumed that love is the only ingredient for a marriage to succeed.

There is more to it O! my brother...thanks for this exposé

This is Damn good Op! This inspiration must have come in the bathroom.

Nawa o! them don dey put ginger for alomo bitters?

Waiting for everyone to comment before I pass judgment..

rose54321:
Lmao, really nice mehn. Followed all through..


The moral is true sha,
If I give you a fake number either I ain't feeling you or something, don't try again

For your mind

Rubbish! I only see a girl fool full of herself, with pride almost devouring you completely...those theory don't work with all girls, most especially my present bae. Coz we have been friends for long (let's say since 7th A.D) before we started dating.

Op come down from ur high horse before u run short of marriage market. Just my 2cents *drops mic*

What took that your friend this long to notice that he has been basking in the MAGAZONE ?

The Op is mentally deranged visually impaired....plus he is a confused racist. But I forgive you.





#teamdarkskinned

Dirty poems? Really this poems ain't even dirty. Anyway no need to click and continue. Ayam outta here!